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Fed To Nadal: NO, i only play doubles with Yves ....

Alvarillo
09-04-2006, 07:41 PM
so we won't see the world #1 and #2 playing together ....
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/09/04/tenis/1157390017.html

Fed you're so boringggggg :rolleyes: :sad:

swissfed
09-04-2006, 07:46 PM
Roger Federer. the world No.1 player . is too one dimensional

scarecrows
09-04-2006, 07:46 PM
damn, I knew I shold have learned spanish

Scotso
09-04-2006, 07:48 PM
Did anyone think he would actually play doubles with Nadal? He's too pissed at him for denying him two French Open titles.

Kip
09-04-2006, 07:53 PM
Big deal! :rolleyes:

Did Sampras play doubles
with Agassi?

delsa
09-04-2006, 07:54 PM
It's Yves. :p

JesusFed isn't boring. Word. His domination, maybe...

adee-gee
09-04-2006, 07:55 PM
:banana: good.

Sunset of Age
09-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Too bad... but not a big surprise. Perhaps Fed'll change his mind when he wins the USO?

PS - anybody here can translate Spanish?

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 08:19 PM
Big deal! :rolleyes:

Did Sampras play doubles
with Agassi?

Was Agassi ever #2 when Sampras was #1?

Liverpool4ever
09-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Federer should offer to play doubles with Nadal at the French Open instead. I think it was Evert that said when a two players play with each other the lesser player has far more to gain. Federer knows this and that's the same reason that he turned down Roddick. Becker also once said that Sampras played doubles with him in 99, because he knew he was not a threat anymore.

Neverstopfightin
09-04-2006, 08:21 PM
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/09/04/tenis/1157390017.html


Fast summary : Rafa sent a SMS to Roger and the answer is No . Roger says it's a great idea from Nadal and would be very funny and a great promotion for tennis and the tournament but he says he never plays doubles at the end of season and if he did it he would play with Allegro . He remembers when he was asked to play doubles with Roddick saying again that he only will play doubles with Allegro .

It seems the doubles Nadal-Federer ever won't come true .

Scotso
09-04-2006, 08:22 PM
I think it was Evert that said when a two players play with each other the lesser player has far more to gain. Federer knows this

So why did he turn down Nadal? :p

Sunset of Age
09-04-2006, 08:23 PM
Fast summary : Rafa sent a SMS to Roger and the answer is No . Roger says it's a great idea from Nadal and would be very funny and a great promotion for tennis and the tournament but he says he never plays doubles at the end of season and if he did it he would play with Allegro . He remembers when he was asked to play doubles with Roddick saying again that he only will play doubles with Allegro .

It seems the doubles Nadal-Federer ever won't come true .

Thankees. That's about what I understood from that article.
I do hope the idea will be resurrected one day. A girl can dream. :angel:

adee-gee
09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
So why did he turn down Nadal? :p
:yeah:

supersexynadal
09-04-2006, 08:28 PM
Does someone have the exact translation of the interview?? Fed should have agreed. Im disappointed

Johnny Groove
09-04-2006, 08:29 PM
Maybe Nadal and roddick should team up for doubles and take out Fed/Yves :shrug:

scoobs
09-04-2006, 08:32 PM
Oh well - would have been fun

*sigh*

maltose
09-04-2006, 08:32 PM
Wow, the last time he played with somebody who wasn't Allegro was Rome 2003.

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 08:34 PM
Fed has better things to do than play doubles, even if it is with jungle boy, i love the whining and conspiracy theories from Nadal fans as to why Fed said No... brilliant shit :lol:
i said all along he barely plays Dbls abymore because he is conserving energy for a loaded schedule for singles, let Rafa burn himself into the ground... mind you, he'll be lucky to make 3 singles matches a week during the indoor season.. he needs the doubles.
maybe Nadal's plan was to get fed to play more matches and burn him out? see... the warped Fedtard way of thinking as well.
:p mwhaha



Was Agassi ever #2 when Sampras was #1?Yes, 94-95... alot :lol:

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 08:35 PM
Uncle Mafia Toni's plans... up in flames
:rolls:
you are DA man Fed :yeah:

mallorn
09-04-2006, 08:35 PM
The English version, from DPA:
Federer declines Nadal's doubles offer

Deutsche Presse Agentur
Published: Monday September 4, 2006

New York- Cautious Roger Federer has politely declined an offer from top rival and friend Rafael Nadal to team up in doubles next month at the Madrid Masters. The top seed at the US Open, while charmed by the idea voiced by number 2 Nadal last week, said that he would have to keep his Davis Cup duties and his own fitness in mind as both players head into November's season-ending Masters Cup in Shanghai.

If any doubles were on the table for Federer, they would be with Davis Cup compatriot Yves Allegro, with whom he occasionally pairs for Switzerland.

Federer said he received a text message on his cell phone from Nadal after reaching the fourth round in the US Open as he bids for his third consecutive title at Flushing Meadows.

"It was a nice idea of Rafael and it would be a great promotion for tennis," Federer said. "But I just never play doubles at the end of the season, and if I did, it would be with Yves."

Federer and Nadal have dominated tennis for the past two seasons, contesting five finals in 2006, with Federer winning the last one at Wimbledon.

Pairings of the world number 1 and 2 are unknown in tennis, where most rivalries feed on dislike or at least aversion between competitors.

The competitors like Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe or Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi, while cordial, never stretched to teaming up outside of possibly the Davis Cup.
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Federer_declines_Nadal_s_doubles_of_09042006.html

adee-gee
09-04-2006, 08:40 PM
LIAR!!!!! :ras:

"But I just never play doubles at the end of the season, and if I did, it would be with Yves."

This doesn't look like never to me :rolleyes:

Moscow, Russia
International Series, 30-Sep-02, I, Carpet , Draw: 16, Partner: Max Mirnyi (BLR)

Vienna, Austria
International Series Gold, 7-Oct-02, I, Hard , Draw: 16, Partner: George Bastl (SUI)

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 08:53 PM
Well, considering he has not had 'an end of season' for the last 2 years due to injury.... cant say much different.
he has barely played doubles during these glory years, as he's almost in a final nearly every week anyway - to much tennis if you add alot of dbls matches, only Iron man Kafelnikov enjoyed those kinda weeks.

going back to 2002 doesnt mean anything, he was just a regular top 10 player then, with no gaurentees of being in a final, he played dbls most weeks with all kinds of partners, he and Mirnyi even winning a few TMS's.
these days he is just too good for it :angel:

Kalliopeia
09-04-2006, 08:58 PM
Roger Federer is no fun at all.

WF4EVER
09-04-2006, 09:01 PM
LMAO @ these :sobbing: :sobbing: :tears: :tears: :tears:

What did you expect from 'boring' Fed?

If Nadal wants to play doubles tell him play with his gf Felicity and leave Feds alone. Who gives a shit if Nadal wants to play with Feds or not? Roger never expressed any interest in playing with him so I don't know what all the whining is about. Roger has the right to refuse and that's exactly what he did.

mangoes
09-04-2006, 09:04 PM
LMAO @ these :sobbing: :sobbing: :tears: :tears: :tears:

What did you expect from 'boring' Fed?

If Nadal wants to play doubles tell him play with his gf Felicity and leave Feds alone. Who gives a shit if Nadal wants to play with Feds or not? Roger never expressed any interest in playing with him so I don't know what all the whining is about. Roger has the right to refuse and that's exactly what he did.


So true...............but from the moment Nadal made his declaration to the media, did you expect it to end any other way but with a Federer bashing?

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 09:07 PM
LIAR!!!!! :ras:

"But I just never play doubles at the end of the season, and if I did, it would be with Yves."

This doesn't look like never to me :rolleyes:

Moscow, Russia
International Series, 30-Sep-02, I, Carpet , Draw: 16, Partner: Max Mirnyi (BLR)

Vienna, Austria
International Series Gold, 7-Oct-02, I, Hard , Draw: 16, Partner: George Bastl (SUI)

4 years ago..when he was not the best player in the world and didnt have all the GS :wavey:

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 09:11 PM
Roger Federer is no fun at all.He still puts more fans in seats anywhere in the world than any other player :wavey:

Johnny Groove
09-04-2006, 09:15 PM
He still puts more fans in seats anywhere in the world than any other player :wavey:

Not in Spain :p

Eden
09-04-2006, 09:17 PM
So true...............but from the moment Nadal made his declaration to the media, did you expect it to end any other way but with a Federer bashing?

But who cares? ;) The people who dislike Roger will always find a way to do so, but there are much more people out there who admire him. Roger won't pay attention to any negative comment about his refuse to play doubles with Nadal. He has the right to do whatever he wants to. And next time Rafael should ask Roger first before going to the media ;)

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 09:23 PM
Not in Spain :pTrue.... no one can match the Ferrero fans in spain. :p

rofe
09-04-2006, 09:24 PM
But who cares? ;) The people who dislike Roger will always find a way to do so, but there are much more people out there who admire him. Roger won't pay attention to any negative comment about his refuse to play doubles with Nadal. He has the right to do whatever he wants to. And next time Rafael should ask Roger first before going to the media ;)

It almost seems like the Nadal camp wanted to put Roger on the spot by going public with the request before asking Roger. Roger called their bluff and didn't bite. :yeah: :D

Skyward
09-04-2006, 09:25 PM
And next time Rafael should ask Roger first before going to the media ;)

Exactly.

Johnny Groove
09-04-2006, 09:25 PM
True.... no one can match the Ferrero fans in spain. :p

In 03-04 yes, but not anymore :p :p :p :p :p :p

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 09:29 PM
Moya???
F.LO :worship:

Castafiore
09-04-2006, 09:29 PM
As usual, some magnificent experts on MTF know much more about the real motives of events and of what players say.

What would we do without you. :rolleyes:


Just let it rest:
Rafa made an offer in the press (oh how evil of him for putting Roger on the spot)
Roger declined (fair enough)

End of story.

NYCtennisfan
09-04-2006, 09:29 PM
He has the right to do whatever he wants to. And next time Rafael should ask Roger first before going to the media ;)

This would have been the right thing to do. :)

It's no surprise really. Federer barely plays singles at the end of the year and he apparently wants to only play doubles with Yves to help with future DC matches.

I would have liked to see this though. It might've been the only time where the singles' matches get overshawdowed by the doubles.

iced gem
09-04-2006, 09:34 PM
Fed :rolleyes:
That would be so great to see!

Anyway, I am very impressed with myself for understanding all of that article! All those spanish lessons have paid off!!

adee-gee
09-04-2006, 09:37 PM
4 years ago..when he was not the best player in the world and didnt have all the GS :wavey:
He said never. He was clearly lying.

Eden
09-04-2006, 09:38 PM
I would have liked to see this though. It might've been the only time where the singles' matches get overshawdowed by the doubles.

Maybe it will come, but not yet ;) Both players are young enough and when the rivalry between them will continue in the next years such a double will still be interesting.

Kalliopeia
09-04-2006, 09:38 PM
He still puts more fans in seats anywhere in the world than any other player :wavey:

He's still got no sense of fun. A Nadal/Federer doubles match could have been great. Ah well.

No one ever said he didn't have the right to refuse, by the way. And most people, if you'll all notice, didn't expect him to accept. Because we all know he's no fun. :angel:

FedFan
09-04-2006, 09:38 PM
But who cares? ;) The people who dislike Roger will always find a way to do so, but there are much more people out there who admire him. Roger won't pay attention to any negative comment about his refuse to play doubles with Nadal. He has the right to do whatever he wants to. And next time Rafael should ask Roger first before going to the media ;)


:yeah: Nadal likes to go to the media instead of talking to the player first. Rome was an other example for this strange behaviour.

rofe
09-04-2006, 09:39 PM
:yeah: Nadal likes to go to the media instead of talking to the player first. Rome was an other example for this strange behaviour.

Let the conspiracy theories begin. ;)

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 09:39 PM
This is all a Master Plan from Toni Nadal in an effort to get Rafa to #1.

and i present to you the Master Plan

Every time Rafa serves..he will aim for Rogers head. and after every time he hits Roger. he will say "I am sorry, no?" after 5 blows in the head...Roger will suffer a concussion and be forced to miss 6 month of action..which will give Nadal the #1 spot..and this is the only way Nadal will ever be #1

:wavey:

adee-gee
09-04-2006, 09:42 PM
This is all a Master Plan from Toni Nadal in an effort to get Rafa to #1.

and i present to you the Master Plan

Every time Rafa serves..he will aim for Rogers head. and after every time he hits Roger. he will say "I am sorry, no?" after 5 blows in the head...Roger will suffer a concussion and be forced to miss 6 month of action..which will give Nadal the #1 spot..and this is the only way Nadal will ever be #1

:wavey:
Have you moved onto bashing Nadal now that Roddick has become good again? :p

All_Slam_Andre
09-04-2006, 09:43 PM
This isn't a big issue at all. Nadal asked Federer to play doubles with him (fair enough), and Federer said no (fair enough). That's all there is to it. Please no-one be completely retarted and bash Federer for declining or Nadal for telling the media that he wanted to play with Roger. Any-one who bashes either player here is a twat.

Eden
09-04-2006, 09:44 PM
He's still got no sense of fun. A Nadal/Federer doubles match could have been great.

But only because other people would found it interesting to see this match Roger doesn't have to say "yes". This has nothing to do with being boring.

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 09:44 PM
Have you moved onto bashing Nadal now that Roddick has become good again? :p

Roddick good? :haha: :haha: stop it..with all this joking, you will never became a mod :kiss:

Neverstopfightin
09-04-2006, 09:45 PM
:yeah: Nadal likes to go to the media instead of talking to the player first. Rome was an other example for this strange behaviour.


At Rome when Roger accused Rafa and Toni of coaching at the press conference did Roger previously talk to Rafa in the locker room about it ?? :retard:

adee-gee
09-04-2006, 09:47 PM
Roddick good? :haha: :haha: stop it..with all this joking, you will never became a mod :kiss:
12 wins in a row when he finishes off Boris :kiss:

Clara Bow
09-04-2006, 09:49 PM
This isn't a big issue at all. Nadal asked Federer to play doubles with him (fair enough), and Federer said no (fair enough). That's all there is to it. Please no-one be completely retarted and bash Federer for declining or Nadal for telling the media that he wanted to play with Roger. Any-one who bashes either player here is a twat.

Well, I wouldn't use the word "twat"...but I agree with you that neither player did anything wrong.

All_Slam_Andre
09-04-2006, 09:53 PM
Well, I wouldn't use the word "twat"...but I agree with you that neither player did anything wrong.

You're right I was a bit over the top. I just really hate it when people try and find any excuse to bash either player. They are both fantastic tennis players, thoroughly nice people and a credit to the sport on and off the court. I wish more people could just leave it at that.

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 10:09 PM
12 wins in a row when he finishes off Boris :kiss:

LA he W/O thats a lose :p and during the steak..no wins vs the top 10 and 1 win vs the Top 20 :wavey:

Godiva
09-04-2006, 10:09 PM
We all know that Nadal needs Fed more than Fed needs Nadal. :angel:

World Beater
09-04-2006, 10:12 PM
Nadal is a sweetie and federer is the spawn of evil...what else is new?

rafatards feeling a little bitter :sad:

no need to be, nadal took fed down twice at RG.

fed rejected roddick earlier, did people really think he would accept this offer? if they did, then they were :retard:

nobama
09-04-2006, 10:18 PM
So true...............but from the moment Nadal made his declaration to the media, did you expect it to end any other way but with a Federer bashing?Why do you think Nadal made the offer? It was a no-lose situation for him.

t0x
09-04-2006, 10:22 PM
Would of been alrite to see. But then again, I'm sort of glad Fed refused. The last thing I want is for him to get burnt out.

FedFan
09-04-2006, 10:23 PM
At Rome when Roger accused Rafa and Toni of coaching at the press conference did Roger previously talk to Rafa in the locker room about it ?? :retard:

In a press conference you usually have to answer questions, this is what Roger did, when he was asked about the incident with Toni during the match.

World Beater
09-04-2006, 10:25 PM
fed is supposed to play three tournaments in a row...madrid, basel and paris...do you expect him to play dubs?

:retard:

Castafiore
09-04-2006, 10:25 PM
Why do you think Nadal made the offer? It was a no-lose situation for him.
Why even bother with speculating about this other than the fun of putting oil on the fire for those who love conspiracy theories?

Rafa asked...
Roger said no.
End of story.

World Beater
09-04-2006, 10:26 PM
Why even bother with speculating about this other than the fun of putting oil on the fire for those who love conspiracy theories?

Rafa asked...
Roger said no.
End of story.

she didnt start the thread. no need to point her post out in a sea of idiocy.

Castafiore
09-04-2006, 10:27 PM
she didnt start the thread. no need to point her post out in a sea of idiocy.
I love pointing at her posts.

Happy?

Sheesh. :rolleyes:

Godiva
09-04-2006, 10:29 PM
I think its worth speculating about. It's curious that the number 2 asked the number 1 to play doubles with him.


And off I go to watch some silly movie called Crank.

Leo
09-04-2006, 10:29 PM
Did anyone think he would actually play doubles with Nadal? He's too pissed at him for denying him two French Open titles.

Can you blame the world #1 for not playing doubles with his biggest rival on tour? You can't really say it's surprising or disappointing. Especially since he's never given a shit about doubles.

Neverstopfightin
09-04-2006, 10:32 PM
In a press conference you usually have to answer questions, this is what Roger did, when he was asked about the incident with Toni during the match.


In a radio interview you usually have to answer questions , this is what Rafa did several hours after Roger bashed him in that press conference .

You get it ?? :retard:

If you say Rafa should talk to Roger before making some comments to the press , apply the same advice to your hero .

World Beater
09-04-2006, 10:33 PM
I love pointing at her posts.

Happy?

Sheesh. :rolleyes:

good..you are making sense now. it just seems to me that there are many people saying far worse things, yet her post, which is one of the more innocuous ones gets attention because of her reputation. im sorry you cant see this.

MariaV
09-04-2006, 10:38 PM
The bashing just keeps on going. :yawn: :yawn:

Castafiore
09-04-2006, 10:38 PM
good..you are making sense now. it just seems to me that there are many people saying far worse things, yet her post, which is one of the more innocuous ones gets attention because of her reputation. im sorry you cant see this.
Last thing I'm going to write about this hopefully but out of all the posts in this thread...I have the great honor of being the target of your posts among the idiocy in this thread and I was not even bitching to mirkaland.

Use some of that logic on yourself, world beater. Besides, mirkaland is a big girl, she can defend herself.

I know that you love having the last word so go ahead...I'm going to do something else with my time right now.

mallorn
09-04-2006, 10:41 PM
fed is supposed to play three tournaments in a row...madrid, basel and paris...do you expect him to play dubs?

:retard:
If he really thought it was a great idea, like he said he did, he'd have suggested a different tournament. This "I don't play doubles at the end of the season" is just an excuse. A predictable one, too. ;)

Of course he had every right to refuse and I think most people expected him to.

World Beater
09-04-2006, 10:42 PM
Last thing I'm going to write about this hopefully but out of all the posts in this thread...I have the great honor of being the target of your posts among the idiocy in this thread and I was not even bitching to mirkaland.

Use some of that logic on yourself, world beater. Besides, mirkaland is a big girl, she can defend herself.

perhaps because you are someone worth discussing tennis with. did you consider that? but of course, the prevailing notion of mtf is that because criticism is giving out, it means there must be an instant dislike.

anyways, i have no intention with discussing issues with many other posters in this thread because i cant take them serious. i was surprised with your post, and hence i responded. That's all. Nothing personal. :)

FedFan
09-04-2006, 10:43 PM
In a radio interview you usually have to answer questions , this is what Rafa did several hours after Roger bashed him in that press conference .

You get it ?? :retard:

If you say Rafa should talk to Roger before making some comments to the press , apply the same advice to your hero .

No, I don't get it. Can you explain me then, why Nadal bashed Fed in his homepage? Was he asked questions there? :confused:

Can you imagine any other player doing this? Is that the behaviour of a friend? :rolleyes:

World Beater
09-04-2006, 10:45 PM
If he really thought it was a great idea, like he said he did, he'd have suggested a different tournament. This "I don't play doubles at the end of the season" is just an excuse. A predictable one, too. ;)

Of course he had every right to refuse and I think most people expected him to.

perhaps. But the feeling i get with roger is that the end of the season is "business" time. playing dubs with nadal would be a fun thing. playing with yves would be for davis cup...he expects to go deep in tournaments and considering he got injured the last two years during the year, can you blame him for not wanting to take chances?

i also think that fed right now is focused on being #1, and he doesnt want anything to get in the way. With the amount of pressure that nadal will put on his lead increasing, i dont think he wants to take chances. This goes for dubs with anyone excluding yves.

thank you for being rational in this thread :)

Kalliopeia
09-04-2006, 10:45 PM
But only because other people would found it interesting to see this match Roger doesn't have to say "yes". This has nothing to do with being boring.

Did I say he had to say yes? No, I did not. But it would have been fun, for us, probably for them, and it would have generated a lot of interest. But, whatever.

nobama
09-04-2006, 10:47 PM
Why even bother with speculating about this other than the fun of putting oil on the fire for those who love conspiracy theories?

Rafa asked...
Roger said no.
End of story.How did this end up in the Spanish press though? That's where the story originated from. I agree with you it should be a non-story, and I'm sure it will be outside of the media in Spain.

mallorn
09-04-2006, 10:48 PM
No, I don't get it. Can you explain me then, why Nadal bashed Fed in his homepage? Was he asked questions there? :confused:

Can you imagine any other player doing this? Is that the behaviour of a friend? :rolleyes:
What on earth are you on about?!

nobama
09-04-2006, 10:49 PM
Did I say he had to say yes? No, I did not. But it would have been fun, for us, probably for them, and it would have generated a lot of interest. But, whatever.Let them do it on the seniors tour someday.

mangoes
09-04-2006, 10:52 PM
good..you are making sense now. it just seems to me that there are many people saying far worse things, yet her post, which is one of the more innocuous ones gets attention because of her reputation. im sorry you cant see this.


Only Roger fans lack reasoning. Only Roger fans are making this into a big deal.

Neverstopfightin
09-04-2006, 10:53 PM
No, I don't get it. Can you explain me then, why Nadal bashed Fed in his homepage? Was he asked questions there? :confused:

Can you imagine any other player doing this? Is that the behaviour of a friend? :rolleyes:

Is a correct behaviour of a jobmate and a behaviour plenty of fair play to act as an informer to see if the umpire noticed about the coaching of the opponent's coach ??.

For sure a nº1 has better things to do in a match that acting as a informer kid who goes to her teacher to tell her that that boy has cheated in an exam.

I'm not longer gonna talk about Rome since everybody knows what happened and has their own opinion, but I'm only tell you that if you say Rafa should talk to Roger before going to the mass media as he did in Rome then your hero should be the first to receive your criticisms because he was the one who began the shit in Rome and he was the first who talked to the mass media instead of talking to Rafa about that issue.

:wavey:

Neverstopfightin
09-04-2006, 10:58 PM
How did this end up in the Spanish press though? That's where the story originated from. I agree with you it should be a non-story, and I'm sure it will be outside of the media in Spain.

The story began in an agency news ( DPA ) which isn't from Spain

Metis
09-04-2006, 10:59 PM
This is all a Master Plan from Toni Nadal in an effort to get Rafa to #1.

and i present to you the Master Plan

Every time Rafa serves..he will aim for Rogers head. and after every time he hits Roger. he will say "I am sorry, no?" after 5 blows in the head...Roger will suffer a concussion and be forced to miss 6 month of action..which will give Nadal the #1 spot..and this is the only way Nadal will ever be #1

:wavey:
I said that first :p

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4063316&postcount=68

mallorn
09-04-2006, 11:01 PM
perhaps. But the feeling i get with roger is that the end of the season is "business" time. playing dubs with nadal would be a fun thing. playing with yves would be for davis cup...he expects to go deep in tournaments and considering he got injured the last two years during the year, can you blame him for not wanting to take chances?

i also think that fed right now is focused on being #1, and he doesnt want anything to get in the way. With the amount of pressure that nadal will put on his lead increasing, i dont think he wants to take chances. This goes for dubs with anyone excluding yves.

thank you for being rational in this thread :)
I agree. That's why I think it's understandable that he refused, but the reason he gave was obviously an excuse to me. The doubles would be just for fun and if he wanted to do it but not in Madrid he'd have suggested eg a tourney at the beginning of the season when pretty much everybody needs match practice.

Of course once he said no he had to give some sort of excuse not to get flamed for it. Too much. ;)

All_Slam_Andre
09-04-2006, 11:02 PM
There is no hatred or bad feeling between Federer and Nadal. They like and respect each other. Some people really need to deal with this. They are both are both fantastic tennis players, and great people. End of story.

Eden
09-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Did I say he had to say yes? No, I did not. But it would have been fun, for us, probably for them, and it would have generated a lot of interest. But, whatever.

You wrote He's still got no sense of fun. A Nadal/Federer doubles match could have been great. and I mainly critized the point that Roger would not understand fun.

He has other priorities and that should be respected, no matter what other people think.

Now Nadal has the only attention in his home - thats good for him ;)
And like I wrote before there is still enough time for a double between Federer and Nadal in the future when both players want to.

:wavey:

mangoes
09-04-2006, 11:31 PM
I agree. That's why I think it's understandable that he refused, but the reason he gave was obviously an excuse to me. The doubles would be just for fun and if he wanted to do it but not in Madrid he'd have suggested eg a tourney at the beginning of the season when pretty much everybody needs match practice.

Of course once he said no he had to give some sort of excuse not to get flamed for it. Too much. ;)

But "flamed" he will get, to some degree. Next time, it would be nice of Nadal to not make offers to Roger via the media. I have a sneaky feeling that Roger would probably appreciate that courtesy.

scoobs
09-04-2006, 11:33 PM
I agree it would have been better for this to have not made it into the public arena unless/until it was agreed to.

It makes Roger look a little churlish for refusing, which he has every right to do.

Regenbogen
09-04-2006, 11:43 PM
Well, I expected this, but I'm still disappointed :sobbing: :sad:

megadeth
09-04-2006, 11:53 PM
Was Agassi ever #2 when Sampras was #1?

well duh, yes! when agassi won the '94 USO, he went up to #2 while sampras was #1. andre took it over after the '95 lipton and became the 12th man to be #1... :rolleyes:

mallorn
09-05-2006, 12:02 AM
But "flamed" he will get, to some degree. Next time, it would be nice of Nadal to not make offers to Roger via the media. I have a sneaky feeling that Roger would probably appreciate that courtesy.
Snappy. :toothy:

I think Rafa got a bit ahead of himself when he specifically mentioned Madrid, he should've popped the question :p to Roger first. If Rafa was asked about the rivalry/doubles with Federer, he should have left it at "I'd love to play doubles with him."

Do you really think there will be a next time?

The Pro
09-05-2006, 12:07 AM
I bet Mirka vetoed the idea on the spot.

Mirka: Roger did you just get a text?

Roger: Um, no.

Mirka: Let me see... now.

Roger: (sighs) He's really fun, dear!

Mirka: I said no! After the low-five in front of everybody! :mad: I bet you'd love to play 'doubles' with the boy...

Poor Federer. Hope deferred.

Johnny Groove
09-05-2006, 12:23 AM
I bet Mirka vetoed the idea on the spot.

Mirka: Roger did you just get a text?

Roger: Um, no.

Mirka: Let me see... now.

Roger: (sighs) He's really fun, dear!

Mirka: I said no! After the low-five in front of everybody! :mad: I bet you'd love to play 'doubles' with the boy...

Poor Federer. Hope deferred.

:haha: Spot on!

Mirka is such a fat bitch! :p

NaDALiTa
09-05-2006, 12:28 AM
I find Federer's reaction really selfish. If Rafa asked him it wasn't to create a real double team, it was just to entertain the public, to promote the double and to have fun together. It won't cost a lot for federer to play at maximum one or two match, but it will bring a lot for the tournament. He is selfish because it would be a great reward for all the tennis fan,all around the world.He shouldn't forget that if he can earn a living doing what he loves, it's thanks to the fan, it's such a little thing to play one or two match after all the audience made for him .........

i'm really disappointed, and i find very arrogant the way he found an excuse . What a pity :( :( :(

Sjengster
09-05-2006, 01:12 AM
Yes, Federer has been so selfish and given nothing back to tennis while he's been no. 1.

Sjengster
09-05-2006, 01:14 AM
This thread is proof positive that conspiracy theories, like diamonds, are forever. You can see the same kind of lunatic thinking that has been hard at work on the JFK assassination and NASA's faked lunar landing.

Corey Feldman
09-05-2006, 01:39 AM
He's still got no sense of fun. A Nadal/Federer doubles match could have been great. Ah well.

No one ever said he didn't have the right to refuse, by the way. And most people, if you'll all notice, didn't expect him to accept. Because we all know he's no fun. :angel:and Nadal is fun? Mr face like a smacked ass when he loses a point
what is your idea of "fun" with tennis..
which other players do it?
Baghdatis? because he sticks out his tongue after a long point?
Go and see who most of the planet would wanna watch play tennis and shut up moron.

also nice to see some Rafatards still whinging over little lord fauntleroy getting a telling of for his ILLEGAL coaching in that Rome final (Yes, roger's complaint was at least valid)... face it, he aint perfect... id say he is almost on his way to being disliked by alot of the tour, Ljubo, Mathieu.... even Agassi was pissed of with his time between points crap - have had tiffs with him.. expect more over the years.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-043.gif

binkygirl
09-05-2006, 02:11 AM
Big deal! :rolleyes:

Did Sampras play doubles
with Agassi?

Wasn't it Sampras and Courier who used to play doubles together during their early days on the tour? I also think Agassi and Courier played doubles together a few times.

adee-gee
09-05-2006, 02:16 AM
Yes, Federer has been so selfish and given nothing back to tennis while he's been no. 1.
Glad you've seen the light :p

Corey Feldman
09-05-2006, 02:27 AM
Wasn't it Sampras and Courier who used to play doubles together during their early days on the tour? I also think Agassi and Courier played doubles together a few times.Yeah, Sampy and courier... in 1989 i think, they even qualied for the end of year top8 championships.

Dont know about Agassi but he won 1 career doubles title in his whole life, with Petr Korda in Cincinnati 1993.

ugotlobbed
09-05-2006, 06:33 AM
wow nadal has federers #?

CmonAussie
09-05-2006, 06:41 AM
Was Agassi ever #2 when Sampras was #1?
:wavey:
Doh ahh hello 1995 :angel: anybody :confused: ...How long have you been following tennis anyway??

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 06:46 AM
Perfect thread for the Fed/Nadal Argument Forum.

Come on mods, it needs to happen.

blessed
09-05-2006, 06:48 AM
People are really naive if they believed this would come about. Federer has never played doubles with any of his main rivals - ever! Rafael was really daydreaming, but I for one am pleased that Federer scotched this idea. It was not a good idea at all.

bokehlicious
09-05-2006, 06:58 AM
Wise decision Roger, let this double garbage to other clowns.

CmonAussie
09-05-2006, 07:09 AM
People are really naive if they believed this would come about. Federer has never played doubles with any of his main rivals - ever! Rafael was really daydreaming, but I for one am pleased that Federer scotched this idea. It was not a good idea at all.
:wavey:
Federer & Hewitt played doubles a few times together when they were both juniors :p ...Though as things panned out I guess it worked more to Jesus`s :angel: advantage than Rocky Lleg`s :devil: ..>> :sad:

bokehlicious
09-05-2006, 07:11 AM
Fed has better things to do than play doubles, even if it is with jungle boy, i love the whining and conspiracy theories from Nadal fans as to why Fed said No... brilliant shit :lol:
i said all along he barely plays Dbls abymore because he is conserving energy for a loaded schedule for singles, let Rafa burn himself into the ground... mind you, he'll be lucky to make 3 singles matches a week during the indoor season.. he needs the doubles.
maybe Nadal's plan was to get fed to play more matches and burn him out? see... the warped Fedtard way of thinking as well.
:p mwhaha



Yes, 94-95... alot :lol:


S P O T O N ;)

bokehlicious
09-05-2006, 07:14 AM
And next time Rafael should ask Roger first before going to the media ;)

:yeah:

bokehlicious
09-05-2006, 07:24 AM
I find Federer's reaction really selfish. If Rafa asked him it wasn't to create a real double team, it was just to entertain the public, to promote the double and to have fun together. It won't cost a lot for federer to play at maximum one or two match, but it will bring a lot for the tournament. He is selfish because it would be a great reward for all the tennis fan,all around the world.He shouldn't forget that if he can earn a living doing what he loves, it's thanks to the fan, it's such a little thing to play one or two match after all the audience made for him .........

i'm really disappointed, and i find very arrogant the way he found an excuse . What a pity :( :( :(


You retarded moron !!!

All_Slam_Andre
09-05-2006, 09:58 AM
I find Federer's reaction really selfish. If Rafa asked him it wasn't to create a real double team, it was just to entertain the public, to promote the double and to have fun together. It won't cost a lot for federer to play at maximum one or two match, but it will bring a lot for the tournament. He is selfish because it would be a great reward for all the tennis fan,all around the world.He shouldn't forget that if he can earn a living doing what he loves, it's thanks to the fan, it's such a little thing to play one or two match after all the audience made for him .........

i'm really disappointed, and i find very arrogant the way he found an excuse . What a pity :( :( :(

And you're incredibly dumb

kronus12
09-05-2006, 10:02 AM
Too many rafatards tossers not listening to the reason why fed won't play with rafal in doubles.
Rather come up with their bullshit version of the real reason feds not playing with their boyfriend rafal. Listen boyz and girls he's playing three tourney in a role and wants to get as much rest as possible his schedule already made up before the season starts watch some of his interviews he mention's it alot.
He will only make allowance for Yves because of davis cup commitments.
Get over it your version of the truth is quite funny and stupid, only retarded morons would come up with those stories.

scarecrows
09-05-2006, 10:34 AM
:wavey:
Federer & Hewitt played doubles a few times together when they were both juniors :p ...Though as things panned out I guess it worked more to Jesus`s :angel: advantage than Rocky Lleg`s :devil: ..>> :sad:


Hewitt played in juniors???

I thought he became pro when he was 16

bad gambler
09-05-2006, 11:18 AM
:wavey:
Federer & Hewitt played doubles a few times together when they were both juniors :p ...Though as things panned out I guess it worked more to Jesus`s :angel: advantage than Rocky Lleg`s :devil: ..>> :sad:

Hewitt and Fed played doubles at 1999 Wimbledon :)

yanchr
09-05-2006, 12:00 PM
If Rafa asked him it wasn't to create a real double team, it was just to entertain the public, to promote the double and to have fun together.
I doubt it.
He is selfish because it would be a great reward for all the tennis fan,all around the world.
You think he should do whatever to entertain you? Are you not selfish?
He shouldn't forget that if he can earn a living doing what he loves, it's thanks to the fan, it's such a little thing to play one or two match after all the audience made for him .........
This is way beyond me :retard: :retard: :retard:
i'm really disappointed, and i find very arrogant the way he found an excuse . What a pity :( :( :(
Whatever he does is arrogant. Yeah.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 12:49 PM
Federer did well, it was a stupid proposal by Rafa :retard:

stebs
09-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Federer did well, it was a stupid proposal by Rafa :retard:
Deivid that's now two threads in a row where you have made posts not including the word 'clown(s)'. What's going on? :p

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Deivid that's now two threads in a row where you have made posts not including the word 'clown(s)'. What's going on? :p

Ok, Rafa was a clown in this concern

kokket
09-05-2006, 12:57 PM
good decision Roger
if he said YES i'am sure that everybody ask him to play doubles ...

look to the Swiss David Cup - with Roger they did't would relegate.
But Davis CUP was not in Rogers Year plan - he is a pro.

i think u need to be a litte bit selfish to hold the No.1 spot :devil:

stebs
09-05-2006, 12:57 PM
Ok, Rafa was a clown in this concern
Okay thanks. I was getting worried for a moment there.

Egag
09-05-2006, 02:30 PM
I thought Roger would have said yes to this proposal without hesitation....since they do everything else together :rolleyes: lol

brent-o
09-05-2006, 03:09 PM
He still puts more fans in seats anywhere in the world than any other player :wavey:

More than Agassi?

Corey Feldman
09-05-2006, 07:17 PM
More than Agassi?in places away from USA, id say yes.
and in USA, it might be equal :p

Mechlan
09-05-2006, 07:41 PM
That would've been fun to watch. Sad. Maybe someday.

controlfreak
09-05-2006, 08:34 PM
I saw Yves in the title and thought he mean Pierre-Yves Henin-Hardenne!!! :bolt:

CmonAussie
09-06-2006, 02:25 AM
Hewitt and Fed played doubles at 1999 Wimbledon :)
:wavey:
Cool~ i wasn`t aware of that one :cool: ...At 1999 Wimby Hewitt was ranked about #25 & Fed #90 in singles~ if I recall correctly :confused:

Corey Feldman
09-06-2006, 02:45 AM
Yep, 99 wimbledon saw young Fed/Hewitt play their first Wimbledon...they lost in the QF to Rafter/Bjorkman.

oberon
09-06-2006, 03:20 AM
Rafa and Fed will play doubles together vs. the Williams sisters.

canbera
09-06-2006, 08:22 AM
wow nadal has federers #?

HAHA. good point there.

I think some people simply need to accept it. He's World #1, he does what he thinks is right. It's like, "Hi, I'm Roger Federer, and I do whatever the fukc I want"

If he doesn't want to play Davis Cup, nobody can tell him to do it. If Tommy Haas or Nicolas Kiefer would come up and say, "hey folks I'm not in" it would be a scandal. They would probably never let them play anytime again. But as #1 YOU decide how things happen, and nobody else.

vamosnadal
09-06-2006, 09:56 AM
Talking about Hewitt...If Lleyton and Rafa teamed up in doubles that would be quite a sight. Would ANY ball get past them - surely between them they would be able to run down everything!!!

radics
09-06-2006, 10:12 AM
HAHA. good point there.

I think some people simply need to accept it. He's World #1, he does what he thinks is right. It's like, "Hi, I'm Roger Federer, and I do whatever the fukc I want"

If he doesn't want to play Davis Cup, nobody can tell him to do it. If Tommy Haas or Nicolas Kiefer would come up and say, "hey folks I'm not in" it would be a scandal. They would probably never let them play anytime again. But as #1 YOU decide how things happen, and nobody else. You're talking such a bs... Please take a look at Sampras' or Agassis history in Davis Cup. Sampras DIDN'T play the first rounds of DC AT ALL in hes best years. And Agassi only in 1998 and 2000. And now tell my why... I bet you can give me a nice answer.

bokehlicious
09-06-2006, 10:18 AM
And Roger skipped DC only twice...

vamosnadal
09-06-2006, 11:03 AM
Sampras didn't need to play the first rounds of DC - there were enough other brilliant players in the US at that time.

bokehlicious
09-06-2006, 11:08 AM
Sampras didn't need to play the first rounds of DC - there were enough other brilliant players in the US at that time.

So what ? Sampras was right not to play that ties because he's American wheras Roger is wrong because he comes from a small country ? :confused:

vamosnadal
09-06-2006, 11:15 AM
First of all I never said Fed was wrong not to play DC. I'm just saying there was good reason why Sampras didn't play early rounds of DC. He simply wasn't needed in the early rounds as there were so many other great players who were capable of getting the US through easily. It has absolutely nothing to do with "it was OK for Sampras because he was American" The team could have been any nationality, the fact is they were so strong they didn't need him in the early rounds.

scarecrows
09-06-2006, 12:17 PM
First of all I never said Fed was wrong not to play DC. I'm just saying there was good reason why Sampras didn't play early rounds of DC. He simply wasn't needed in the early rounds as there were so many other great players who were capable of getting the US through easily. It has absolutely nothing to do with "it was OK for Sampras because he was American" The team could have been any nationality, the fact is they were so strong they didn't need him in the early rounds.


yeah

that's why USA won the trophy only once when Sampras was no.1

vamosnadal
09-06-2006, 05:14 PM
I wasn't talking about winning it, but getting through the early rounds. The others were certainly strong enough to do that without him.