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WTAworld complaining about Men's matches

tennisrocks123
09-04-2006, 03:48 PM
A direct quote:
<<I really don't want to see 5 sets of some unshaven, disgustingly hairy, sweaty oaf, dressed in a cross between 19th century underwear and a clowns outfit, scratching their crotch, spitting, blowing snot out of the nose onto the court, etc.
They must shorten the matches like they did for the doubles!

What do you think?

delsa
09-04-2006, 03:50 PM
WTA World is so unintentionaly funny! :rolls:

cherry@cupcake
09-04-2006, 03:53 PM
Don't agree. The unshaven snot-slinging clowns produce tennis that's actually exciting to watch.

Kristen
09-04-2006, 03:53 PM
I am happy to shorten matches.
If we can eliminate WTA. Is that so wrong?

tangerine_dream
09-04-2006, 03:59 PM
I was watching the Ginepri-Haas match and Macatee announced that JHH and Peer would be coming right up....

Fifteen minutes into the Ginepri-Haas match, Macatee announced that JHH just won the first set vs Peer 6-1.... :lol:

Women's tennis blows ass in the early rounds. No network should show any of their matches until the quarterfinals and even that's questionable entertainment.

scoobs
09-04-2006, 04:12 PM
I'm happy to watch women's tennis but tactically it is usually inferior - most of the female players have no idea how to use slice effectively, rarely employ dropshots, lobs, or in short, any tactics beyond hitting the ball as hard as they can. If it hits, it looks spectacular, and if it misses (as it does more often) it looks horrible. There's very few players who have any concept of playing percentage tennis, or having a Plan B and trying to change a losing formula.

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 04:12 PM
they would rather see little princess's win 0 and 1 or 0 and 0 as i seen from a Davenport match, than real tennis.
long matches show you the real pro's, Wta is for wimps.

musefanatic
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
I do like womens tennis but I have to admit that if i had a choice, i would pick men's tennis over womens anytime

Volcanic Tennis
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
Tangy, Sugiyama taking a set off the second seed is not boring tennis, and this isn't even biased. I find it exciting.

I love both the ATP and the WTA, and, well, I find them both exciting.

I adore best of 5 set matches, though, and they're only complaining because they have to wait longer to see their favorite play - which is really stupid. If I have to wait until four, I'll wait.

Saumon
09-04-2006, 04:18 PM
with a few girls from MTF we met guys from wtahell wtaworld last saturday and they whined "male matches are too long blablabla" :ras: :lol:

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 04:19 PM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :)

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Serena and her waving after the win.
Mauresmo is now celebrating like Nadal with that run and jump annoyng thingy.
Sharapova screaming like a banshee.
Henin and her "allez" after every f'en point she wins.

WTA is annoying me lately now that i think about it.

not enough Ivanovic, Kirilenko, Harkelroad, Mirza action :sad:
the pretties sucked this year :sad:

ASP0315
09-04-2006, 04:24 PM
Also wtaworld fans are upset that CBS or Usa did not show Serena's match yesterday.:lol:. Thanks to Roddick and Verdasco. :)

Tangy, Sugiyama taking a set off the second seed is not boring tennis, and this isn't even biased. I find it exciting.

I love both the ATP and the WTA, and, well, I find them both exciting.

I partially agree with your statement. But most women's matches are one sided. Some of them ie last years wimby Finals and this years wimby finals are exciting. But most of early round matches are one sided.

ASP0315
09-04-2006, 04:26 PM
Serena and her waving after the win.
Mauresmo is now celebrating like Nadal with that run and jump annoyng thingy.
Sharapova screaming like a banshee.
Henin and her "allez" after every f'en point she wins.

WTA is annoying me lately now that i think about it.

not enough Ivanovic, Kirilenko, Harkelroad, Mirza action :sad:
the pretties sucked this year :sad:

Ivanovic sucked. :confused: . Didn't she win the usopen series.??.

Jelena
09-04-2006, 04:32 PM
There was a time, some years ago, when I watched women's tennis. In the meanwhile I only watch women's tennis, when I have to, because of combined tournaments. What I hate about the women's tennis is, that they are not able to finish a match when they have the possibility to do that. :rolleyes: In 90% of the matches I could bet (if I did) that the "winner" can't finish the match.....

Volcanic Tennis
09-04-2006, 04:35 PM
Also wtaworld fans are upset that CBS or Usa did not show Serena's match yesterday.:lol:. Thanks to Roddick and Verdasco. :)



I partially agree with your statement. But most women's matches are one sided. Some of them ie last years wimby Finals and this years wimby finals are exciting. But most of early round matches are one sided.

That might be true, but there are a lot of men's matches that are one-sided as well.

I find there are players that are exciting to watch - they might not get on Ashe, but still, the likes of Dementieva, Sugiyama, etc. are interesting to watch.

But yes, there are a lot more men's matches that are more entertaining, but I think that's because of the best of 5 set business. However, I do think there are a lot of good women's matches, but, like I said, they just aren't shown. Sharapova and Henin are two boring players to watch play, I agree.

Saumon
09-04-2006, 04:51 PM
That might be true, but there are a lot of men's matches that are one-sided as well.
*cough* Federer's matches *cough*

*Viva Chile*
09-04-2006, 04:54 PM
There are some people that are sick in this world :o

star
09-04-2006, 04:56 PM
Men's tennis is better tennis, but there's a lot of drama and excitement in women's tennis.

TenHound
09-04-2006, 05:30 PM
Most tennis of both genders is just boring bashing. A few of each gender have unique styles that are interesting to watch. They should speed up the courts to bring back S/V. These endless baseline basher are tedious.

As for dressing - again they're both Hideous. It's Slobs 'n' Sluts on Tour. The women should dress like the jocks they are, like they do on the practice courts, and the guys should wear shorts that actually fit - like Henman & AA - for starters. Then add some decent tops. The guys playing doubles in the same outfits is a definite improvement - much easier to watch the ball w/less chaos on the court.

djoky
09-04-2006, 05:45 PM
i like both mens and womens tennis, and to be honest i find both boring at times i like roger to a point but when he is just giving some guy some ass beating i really dont need to watch it when their's a womens match that close going on, but i feel the same when maria kick somebodies ass and they start talking about her being played so much money when she cant win a slam it's like shut the fuck up and show lopez and lubi already.

Scotso
09-04-2006, 06:58 PM
Ginepri :drool:

controlfreak
09-04-2006, 07:14 PM
the WTA play like grils

MurrayFan1
09-04-2006, 07:16 PM
the WTA play like grils

Haha ya think?

I'll gladly watch WTA but it is pretty dull when people like JHH and the like win their first 3 matches of a grand slam 6-0 6-1 in 40 minutes. You'd rarely get a score like that in a mens match. And even when there is, if it lasts like only an hour and 20 minutes, at least it feels like more of a match,

justine&coria
09-04-2006, 08:01 PM
Come on, do you really find this Roddick-Becker match interesting ? With Roddick just making aces.
The only reason why it's not 6-0 or 6-1 is just because on the men's side, they have big serves, which is a real advantage and which most of the times prevent them from losing 6-0.

njnetswill
09-04-2006, 08:05 PM
Jankovic/Kuznetsova appeared to be fairly high quality. Many other women's matches are not.

DrJules
09-04-2006, 08:10 PM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :)


Are any Williams' fans that intelligent. :devil:

LleytonMonfils
09-04-2006, 08:12 PM
mens tennis and talent is so much more close than womans tennis... when the #21 seed gets blown out 6-1 6-0 something is wrong... the quality or the competitiveness is just not there... if they want to talk about cutting how about cutting down size of field in womens majors?

DrJules
09-04-2006, 08:15 PM
Serena Williams has more muscles than a number of male tennis players. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hopefully Maria and/or Justine can kick this big muscular lump out of New York. :devil:

DrJules
09-04-2006, 08:18 PM
Come on, do you really find this Roddick-Becker match interesting ? With Roddick just making aces.
The only reason why it's not 6-0 or 6-1 is just because on the men's side, they have big serves, which is a real advantage and which most of the times prevent them from losing 6-0.

Agree 100%.

The only thing that would stop Nadal beating Roddick with a WTA score is his serve. Women mostly cannot hide behind big serves.

charlie666
09-04-2006, 08:34 PM
unshaved men are HOT :drool:

tangerine_dream
09-04-2006, 08:40 PM
Come on, do you really find this Roddick-Becker match interesting ?
Yes, actually. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching Roddick blow this arrogant rain-on-Agassi's-parade prick who also mooches off of American tennis scholarships right off the court. :)

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 08:51 PM
the WTA play like grilsgrils? :lol:

Hopefully Maria and/or Justine can kick this big muscular lump out of New York. :devil:well she does play the No1 and two time slam winner this year, Mauresmo tonight :p
another muscular lump you might say.
head to head: Serena 9-1 :p

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 08:52 PM
:lol: @ DrJules avatar with that dog and 3 tennis balls in its mouth.

big yellow teeth Henman would be proud of :lol:

new-york
09-04-2006, 09:01 PM
with a few girls from MTF we met guys from wtahell wtaworld last saturday and they whined "male matches are too long blablabla" :ras: :lol:

it is, when you're waiting for another match.

btw. this is def not what wtaworld has to say about men's tennis.
lots of peep follow both tour as they're logically amazing points in both sides.

don't why peeps always want to oppose boobs versus hair & big serve when there's no need to.

lolz.

zicofirol
09-04-2006, 09:01 PM
The worst match I have seen live is Sharapova-Jackson at this year's Indian Wells, where I think Jackson served for the match or soemthing like anyway it was very close match, but my god was it boring, bang bang bang miss, bang bang bang miss etc. An absolute bore.

Mens game is much better although with the slowing of the courts is increasingly becoming one dimensional like the women's game.

VEC
09-04-2006, 09:12 PM
Most tennis of both genders is just boring bashing. A few of each gender have unique styles that are interesting to watch. They should speed up the courts to bring back S/V. These endless baseline basher are tedious.

As for dressing - again they're both Hideous. It's Slobs 'n' Sluts on Tour. The women should dress like the jocks they are, like they do on the practice courts, and the guys should wear shorts that actually fit - like Henman & AA - for starters. Then add some decent tops. The guys playing doubles in the same outfits is a definite improvement - much easier to watch the ball w/less chaos on the court.
Agree with this post, 100%.

Tomek.
09-04-2006, 09:15 PM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :)
and yours 10 :p

World Beater
09-04-2006, 09:17 PM
i cant stand women's tennis early in tournaments. Latter stages can get interesting esp since there is much more drama off the court with personalities than there is on the court. the rivalries on the women's tour are more interesting because they are more bitchy.

but the tennis is monotonous. Besides, the whole year the focus is always on womens tennis in the slams, it was refreshing to see many good men's matches yesterday.

Timariot
09-04-2006, 09:24 PM
*cough* Federer's matches *cough*

Hell, on ATP there are entire tournaments, no wait, entire SEASONS which are completely one-sided. At least on WTA nowadays you can't carve winners name on trophies ten months in advance and there is actually some suspension about who will be year-end #1. Imagine that.... :p

DrJules
09-04-2006, 09:29 PM
Yes, actually. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching Roddick blow this arrogant rain-on-Agassi's-parade prick who also mooches off of American tennis scholarships right off the court. :)

Your sounding like a small minded American Nationalistic Zenophobe. With people like you in the United States I feel sorry for people who study in the USA.

Jade Fox
09-04-2006, 09:31 PM
I can see both sides since I follow both tours. Yeah, watching Roger bagel someone isn't exciting, but as many point out, neither are the early rounds of a Slam of the women's side. On the ATP side there are a number of players outside of the top 20 who can either upset a top 20 player, or give them a hard time. I can't say the same about the WTA. Upsets like the one that happened to Martina Hingis in the early rounds are rare from what I can see.

I think it's a big myth that WTA Tour is more unpredictable because I can only count on three fingers the women who can actually win this tournament while the rest can only hope for a deep run.

That said, I do enjoy the women's game as there are some truly talented players on the WTA.

wally1
09-04-2006, 09:39 PM
Contrary to popular belief, there are some good, competitive matches played in the early rounds of WTA tournaments - you just don't get to see them on tv, which will only show ridiculous 6-1 6-2 beatdowns from the likes of Williams, Sharapova, Henin-Hardenne etc. As someone said earlier, the men would likely be the same if it wasn't for the serve, which makes one-sided scorelines less likely (even on Clay).

Andi-M
09-04-2006, 09:46 PM
I love WTA and ATP theres no need for these bitchy petty insults GS are so exciting and special because of the men's and the women's tennis combined.

delicatecutter
09-04-2006, 10:10 PM
The Roddick/Becker match was not good at all. I found even the Roddick/Verdasco match hard to watch because Andy's game is so ugly.

Women's tennis has some great matches. Kuznetsova/Jankovic was a really good one today.

And there are some cool people on WTAWorld, myself included. And lots of us like men's tennis as well. :worship:

Jimnik
09-04-2006, 10:21 PM
Agree 100%.

The only thing that would stop Nadal beating Roddick with a WTA score is his serve. Women mostly cannot hide behind big serves.
I guess Roddick was hiding behind his serve when he beat Nadal 6-0 6-3 6-4 two years ago. :rolleyes:

~*BGT*~
09-04-2006, 10:28 PM
I guess Roddick was hiding behind his serve when he beat Nadal 6-0 6-3 6-4 two years ago. :rolleyes:

:yeah:

DrJules
09-04-2006, 10:30 PM
I guess Roddick was hiding behind his serve when he beat Nadal 6-0 6-3 6-4 two years ago. :rolleyes:

Nadal was outside the top 50 and 18 years old. I am talking now!!

2 players who played Nadal at the US Open only had respectible scores because of their serves.

~*BGT*~
09-04-2006, 10:43 PM
Nadal was outside the top 50 and 18 years old. I am talking now!!

2 players who played Nadal at the US Open only had respectible scores because of their serves.
That's the same year he straight setted Roger in Miami. Besides, he got revenge against Andy in DC that year.

Sjengster
09-05-2006, 12:24 AM
Yes, actually. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching Roddick blow this arrogant rain-on-Agassi's-parade prick who also mooches off of American tennis scholarships right off the court. :)

The retard smiley would scarcely do justice to the sheer cretinous magnificence of this post.

star
09-05-2006, 12:29 AM
The retard smiley would scarcely do justice to the sheer cretinous magnificence of this post.

:worship:

The fact is that the colleges recruit foreign players because they can get better foreign players than American players. It's not like he stole something from an American student; he was offered a scolarship and he decided to take it.

And as for beating Agassi -- The kid was just in the right place at the right time. Credit to him that he didn't fold against the legend.

star
09-05-2006, 12:31 AM
The Roddick/Becker match was not good at all. I found even the Roddick/Verdasco match hard to watch because Andy's game is so ugly.

Women's tennis has some great matches. Kuznetsova/Jankovic was a really good one today.

And there are some cool people on WTAWorld, myself included. And lots of us like men's tennis as well. :worship:

I'm going to see if I can catch some of that Jankovic match on my recorder. I don't know what they showed on CBS.

zimzim
09-05-2006, 12:33 AM
Serena Williams has more muscles than a number of male tennis players. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hopefully Maria and/or Justine can kick this big muscular lump out of New York. :devil:Off topic :confused:

Sjengster
09-05-2006, 12:40 AM
:worship:

The fact is that the colleges recruit foreign players because they can get better foreign players than American players. It's not like he stole something from an American student; he was offered a scolarship and he decided to take it.

And as for beating Agassi -- The kid was just in the right place at the right time. Credit to him that he didn't fold against the legend.

It's not just the fact that he dared to go out and beat Agassi, he also did it without once displaying a single shred of emotion that might have got in the crowd's face and brought their wrath down on him. In the interview on court he even said he understood the reactions of the crowd during the match, a classy thing to say from someone who was booed for the crime of dropshotting a physically compromised opponent.

I notice today he let out a single "Come on!" after winning the opening point on Roddick's serve at the start of the second set, a little foolish considering it was only the first point and Roddick inevitably responded with some emotion of his own after the next one, but one outburst in seven sets of tennis is not exactly what I would call an arrogant prick. ;)

tangerine_dream
09-05-2006, 12:57 AM
The fact is that the colleges recruit foreign players because they can get better foreign players than American players. It's not like he stole something from an American student; he was offered a scolarship and he decided to take it.
He was offered a scholarship when he had already won prize money playing tennis. Scholarships are for amateur players.

Sjengster
09-05-2006, 12:59 AM
Conveniently ignoring the more important fact, that he did not behave like an arrogant prick or anything close to it during or after his match with Agassi.

federated
09-05-2006, 01:07 AM
I do like womens tennis but I have to admit that if i had a choice, i would pick men's tennis over womens anytime

Totally agree. It's just more exciting (though pure Power Shots Tennis from either sex is incredibly dull). Of course it doesn't hurt that most of the men look so good. :hearts:

scoobs
09-05-2006, 01:15 AM
Am I the only one who is really critical of the lack of tactical play from the women's game?

I can only get a lot of enjoyment out of watching players like Henin-Hardenne, Mauresmo and a couple of others, for all their flaws, because they actually know how to do more than hit hard and flat, hit or miss.

Sjengster
09-05-2006, 01:29 AM
Nope, me too. I always find these comments about men's matches only being close because of the serve quite funny, as though a) everyone on the ATP was Karlovic and b) as if being able to serve, and more importantly hold serve, is a bad thing. It's an embarrassment to have a player stepping up to the line to serve for a set or match and almost expecting to be broken, as happens so often in the women's game.

scoobs
09-05-2006, 01:48 AM
That complaint 10 years ago I could accept on the chin but these days men's tennis seems so much more multi-faceted.

There's still bash artists but even they seem to know how to use a bit of offensive slice, the odd dropshot, the occasional lob and maybe even a serve-volley sometimes.

I swear I have seen a lot of women's matches where it is just constant hard groundies with slight topspin back and forth every single point and every one decided by a winner or an unforced error - subtlety completely absent.

kabuki
09-05-2006, 02:25 AM
Personally, I enjoy both men's and women's equally. Men's more for the technical aspects, women's more for the personalities and drama.

And for the record, there are many wtaworld posters (and Williams fans) who are intelligent. Unfortunately, the less intelligent ones attract all the attention through their antics.

scoobs
09-05-2006, 02:26 AM
Same as on here then :)

star
09-05-2006, 02:48 AM
He was offered a scholarship when he had already won prize money playing tennis. Scholarships are for amateur players.


So what? That makes him some kind of thief? I don't think so.

If you've got a problem with it, take it up with Baylor, or take it up with the NCAA. Becker simply took what was offered to him.

star
09-05-2006, 02:51 AM
Conveniently ignoring the more important fact, that he did not behave like an arrogant prick or anything close to it during or after his match with Agassi.

Becker acted very nicely. He stood and clapped with the crowd for the whole time the crowd was clapping. I don't think he even did a victory wave to the crowd. He gave the moment totally to Andre. It was no more than he should have done, but the point was, he did it, and did it very nicely and respectfully.

Gasquet&Feli_Fan
09-05-2006, 03:50 AM
i like both men's and women's tennis but i prefer women's over men's any day.

delicatecutter
09-05-2006, 03:50 AM
You are not cool and you know nothing about men's tennis so go back to WTAWorld with the rest of your retarded friends you heterophobic twat.

I know more about men's tennis than you do. Why the personal attack? It's not cool. You're not cool.

LoveFifteen
09-05-2006, 03:58 AM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :)

Wow, 25?! What a coincidence ... the same number of times you've dedicated a wank to Ljubicic. :wavey:

tennisrocks123
09-05-2006, 04:34 AM
Men's matches are often more exciting, but I like both. The 2005 Wimbledon Ladie's Final was a great match.

hmm..."scratching his crotch" Sounds like Roddick to me

swissfed
09-05-2006, 04:38 AM
Complain , Complain, Complain..........dump

LefandePatty
09-05-2006, 04:44 AM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :)

:retard:

Hardhitter
09-05-2006, 04:50 AM
Womens tennis is ok. But it lacks depth in terms of variety and change of pace of shot.
Women just go out and clobber the ball with no topspin at all, It can look good on TV, but real tennis players and fans of mens tennis see it as slightly dull. My perspective is:

The thing is,

When a male seeded player is stronger then lower ranked male player:
He may be slightly faster
He may have slightly more power
He may have slightly better technique.
He may be more talented
The lower ranked male player will often push the higher ranked player, close sets and 3 set battles are not irregular, the lower ranked player is in with as least : a chance. If that, He may always pose problems for his higher ranked opponent and beat him.


When a female player is stronger then the other
She is usually much faster -
She is significantly more powerful - as in, can hit shots that her opponent can regularly not get a racquet on.
She usually has superior technique.
She usually sees the ball better - always.
She is often much fitter she is more determined.
She is superior in practically every aspect of the game, each time these two players meet, the lower ranked player is happy to notch up a few games.... as in less then 4 games. A set? try never! The lower ranked player is only on the court to see how long she can last and save some humility.

ugotlobbed
09-05-2006, 05:21 AM
is it mostly men or mostly women?

Allure
09-05-2006, 05:31 AM
one thing that annoy me about women's tennis is the number of unforced errors. Its like *smack*, *out*, *smack*, *out*, etc. What's up with that??? :confused:

guy in sf
09-05-2006, 05:33 AM
A direct quote:
<<I really don't want to see 5 sets of some unshaven, disgustingly hairy, sweaty oaf, dressed in a cross between 19th century underwear and a clowns outfit, scratching their crotch, spitting, blowing snot out of the nose onto the court, etc.
They must shorten the matches like they did for the doubles!

What do you think?

You're just quoting from one person on that forum and I'm sure a lot of fans on WTWWORLD don't feel the same way so stop starting shit man.

mickymouse
09-05-2006, 05:35 AM
In a way, it's easy to understand the frustration of the WTA fans cos we only have to put up with an average of an hour of women's match but they have to put up with matches that can go beyond 3 hours at a stretch.

But honestly, the WTA matches are not worth watching, at least not until the quarters when the top players meet each other. The gap is so wide between the top 10 and the rest it's a joke and a waste of time watching.

Dusk Soldier
09-05-2006, 05:37 AM
not enough Ivanovic, Kirilenko, Harkelroad, Mirza action :sad:
the pretties sucked this year :sad:I like watching Mirza play too, I hope they never introduce her to the sports bra.

mandy7
09-05-2006, 11:02 AM
they would rather see little princess's win 0 and 1 or 0 and 0 as i seen from a Davenport match, than real tennis.
long matches show you the real pro's, Wta is for wimps.

youzhny - robredo
6-2, 6-0, 6-1 :wavey:

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 11:06 AM
youzhny - robredo
6-2, 6-0, 6-1 :wavey:

Haas- Ginepri
Berdych- Tursunov
Murray- Gonzalez
Gaudio- Gicquel

bad gambler
09-05-2006, 11:07 AM
Never have tournaments involving both men and women, that should make everyone happy :retard:

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 11:08 AM
Never have tournaments involving both men and women, that should make everyone happy :retard:

Too obvious.

denisgiann
09-05-2006, 11:12 AM
if you want to see tennis at its highest level you watch the men play.If you want to see ass you watch womens tennis.Thats a fact ;) .

mandy7
09-05-2006, 11:17 AM
Haas- Ginepri
Berdych- Tursunov
Murray- Gonzalez
Gaudio- Gicquel

douchevina - ivanovic
loit - pin
birnerova - voskoboeva
peschke - zheng
fedossova - kanepi
rezai - safarova
golovin - petrova
davenport - srebotnik
peer - schiavone

Saumon
09-05-2006, 11:20 AM
Haas- Ginepri
Berdych- Tursunov
Murray- Gonzalez
Gaudio- Gicquel
Safin - Nalbandian ;)

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 11:21 AM
douchevina - ivanovic
loit - pin
birnerova - voskoboeva
peschke - zheng
fedossova - kanepi
rezai - safarova
golovin - petrova
davenport - srebotnik
peer - schiavone

We can keep going with this rubbish if you want, but it serves no purpose does it?

Pick the same round at least and there are too many WTA matches on TV. Only time womens Slams get semi-interesting are now from the 4th round onwards, the rest is just an excuse to get some food, meet up with some friends and watch someone practice.

If it was any better, then their tour would be financially better off.

bad gambler
09-05-2006, 11:21 AM
douchevina - ivanovic
loit - pin
birnerova - voskoboeva
peschke - zheng
fedossova - kanepi
rezai - safarova
golovin - petrova
davenport - srebotnik
peer - schiavone


sorry don't know about 80% of those players :p

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 11:21 AM
Safin - Nalbandian ;)

2nd round, but hey it's a silly thread and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

mandy7
09-05-2006, 11:22 AM
sorry don't know about 80% of those players :p

is that my problem or yours? :lol:

stebs
09-05-2006, 11:25 AM
douchevina - ivanovic
loit - pin
birnerova - voskoboeva
peschke - zheng
fedossova - kanepi
rezai - safarova
golovin - petrova
davenport - srebotnik
peer - schiavone
With the excpetion of one or two these were all complete errorfests. These aren't top women going head to head these are mostly mediocre ball-bashers waititng to see who misses first.

Depending on surface almost anyone in the top 50 can beat anyone else in the top 50 in mens tennis. In Womens tennis there is a good top 10. A half decent top 20 but the rest of the field is absolutely horrible. If a mens tennis player went on a four year sabatical no way could he come back and waltz back into the top 15 the way Hingis has done.

Drimal
09-05-2006, 11:26 AM
Eurosport Germany is annoying because they show the entire German mens matches even if it's on court 10 or 14 and meanwhile there is an entertaining match like Davenport- Srebotnik going on ... :retard:

I mean I have no problem that they show their "stars" but it's unfair to show for 3 or 4 hours a loooong men's match without interruption or without showing women's tennis. :p

No offense but I don't think that early Roger or Rafael matches are that interesting because you already know the winner ... :yawn: (and with three sets it's as long as a women three-setter)

Early matches of Justine or Maria are one-sided too but at least it's just 2 sets and not bothering so much the coverage of entertaining matches. ;)

I have more WTA faves than ATP faves and it is annoying if you live in Europe and your WTA fave is starting after two long ATP matches like 11 pm in the night. :o

Experimentee
09-05-2006, 03:03 PM
Different strokes for different folks.
Theres plenty of WTA bashing on here. I dont see anyone making threads on Wtaworld complaining about how some people dont like womens tennis :shrug:

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-05-2006, 03:21 PM
I watch the ATP for tennis.
I watch the WTA for Tits&Ass.

Waiting for the feminists to attack me. :D

Funny that this is the only topic Escude and I agree on.

connectolove
09-05-2006, 07:45 PM
They are right. men can be VERY disgusting. It is all about having some manners.

Frederick16
09-05-2006, 08:02 PM
Nadal was outside the top 50 and 18 years old. I am talking now!!

2 players who played Nadal at the US Open only had respectible scores because of their serves.

ok and then we give rafael some slower legs...

Frederick16
09-05-2006, 08:03 PM
I watch the ATP for tennis.
I watch the WTA for Tits&Ass.

Waiting for the feminists to attack me. :D

Funny that this is the only topic Escude and I agree on.

i watched ivanovic tits more secure last week and they are not 10% of serenas!! but i dont know if serenas tits are because they are big or because she is not in shape (fat :rolleyes: )

AsianSensation
09-05-2006, 08:19 PM
I watch the ATP for tennis.
I watch the WTA for Tits&Ass.

Waiting for the feminists to attack me. :D

Funny that this is the only topic Escude and I agree on.

:lol:

mongo
09-05-2006, 08:36 PM
Idn'it great! Two years in a row, now, men's matches have dominated the coverage.

Corswandt
09-05-2006, 09:42 PM
Nope, me too. I always find these comments about men's matches only being close because of the serve quite funny, as though a) everyone on the ATP was Karlovic and b) as if being able to serve, and more importantly hold serve, is a bad thing

But there's some truth to that, actually.

The serve in men's tennis has a big balancing effect. Even when Federer is completely dominating a match, it's likely that the final score is going to be say 6-4, 6-3, 6-4 - which on paper looks much better than 6-1, 6-0 on a women's match, even though both matches were almost as one-sided. It's just the fact that it's much more difficult getting breaks of serve on the men's game that makes the scores a bit less lopsided.

For instance, I saw Nalbandian completely outplaying Chardy at the Estoril Open 2r, but even though Chardy was unspeakably shite at just about everything, the score on the final set was 7-6 just because he was serving huge.

It's an embarrassment to have a player stepping up to the line to serve for a set or match and almost expecting to be broken, as happens so often in the women's game

Nowadays, things are somewhat different as players like Vaidisova and Sharapova can win 2-3 free points off their serves on each game when they're serving well. And having most sets being decided by a single break of serve, as happens so often on the men's game, doesn't make the matches any more interesting - on the contrary.

Corswandt
09-05-2006, 09:43 PM
Still, my main point: why is this thread still going? I thought you didn't care about what WTAWorlders have to say about men's tennis.

Gasquet&Feli_Fan
09-05-2006, 11:30 PM
i love women's tennis
l like men's tennis

i think men's tennis got a little boaring in 04 and 05, but since 06 it has become really excing, i used to chang favorite players all the time in men's tennis, but now i've seemed to have stuck to my 3 favs. In women's tennis i am an absolute die hard fan of just one player, in men's tennis im a die hard fan of no player.

Corey Feldman
09-06-2006, 01:21 AM
Funny that this is the only topic Escude and I agree on.Noope, You also agreed with me on something last week, about supporting players that you like their game and not looks.
:p

joeb_uk
09-06-2006, 01:25 AM
Womens tennis is so inferior to the mens game, no one in their right mind would say otherwise. I sometimes enjoy watching wta, but you cannot compare wta with atp in terms of quality of tennis.

Corey Feldman
09-06-2006, 01:26 AM
youzhny - robredo
6-2, 6-0, 6-1 :wavey:So what? it least it was 3 sets, 3 sets in a WTA match is an acchievment :lol:

Jankovic 1 & 2 over demented today, that was a QF.
:o
henin 1&0 over Peer yesterday.

joeb_uk
09-06-2006, 01:29 AM
A direct quote:
<<I really don't want to see 5 sets of some unshaven, disgustingly hairy, sweaty oaf, dressed in a cross between 19th century underwear and a clowns outfit, scratching their crotch, spitting, blowing snot out of the nose onto the court, etc.
They must shorten the matches like they did for the doubles!

What do you think?


As for this comment, it is most likely made by some young teeny bopping male teenager or a dirty old man. When people are talking about issues like that instead of the quality and skill of the game, then we know they are a true idiot.

World Beater
09-06-2006, 02:59 AM
i know i am gonna get slammed for this....but i would love it if they had different events for the men, and women. That way people will get to watch what they like, and be more selective about it as bg alluded to earlier in this thread.

i dont mind watching some wta matches, but not at the expense of mens matches.

Sjengster
09-06-2006, 03:02 AM
Without sounding too superior about it, what you really need over there, as TV viewers at least, is the interactive coverage we have where you choose between five courts - the three main ones, plus 10 and 11. That way you can pick men's or women's matches as you wish, or if you're like me constantly flick between them to try and catch the most dramatic and significant moments.

Corey Feldman
09-06-2006, 03:30 AM
Momo beating Serena was a good match, even tho momo has gotten annoying since winning Wimbledon and Serena... is still Serena.

a quote from lard ass after the defeat

"I think if I would have played, you know, the way I played yesterday or my first- or second-round match, the results would have been different. I think the bottom line boils down to me not playing well today. That's just -- whether that's a lack of match play, I'm not one to make excuses."

and this from Tennis-X Media question from the Serena Williams post-match conference: "Congratulations on the effort you put forth being you haven't played in a while. You look great..." -- Was that from Serena's PR person?
:lol:

jole
09-06-2006, 03:34 AM
youzhny - robredo
6-2, 6-0, 6-1 :wavey:

Except those scores are common as hell for the WTA, and rare as hell for the ATP. :wavey:

Corswandt
09-06-2006, 01:41 PM
Except those scores are common as hell for the WTA, and rare as hell for the ATP. :wavey:

And why is that?

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4085901&postcount=101

CarstenL01
09-06-2006, 01:48 PM
I don't care if it's women's or men's tennis... men's tennis can be very boring when there are meeting two players who are "only" serving.... these "7:6 7:6 6:7 6:7 7:6"-Matches with 3 or 4 rallies :lol: with women's tennis it's the thing with one player blowing the other off the court... both can be boring and both can be entertaining... imo it's always a question of who is playing :)

name_change
09-06-2006, 02:30 PM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :):rolleyes: kinda like urs, so why aren't u there?

jole
09-07-2006, 01:26 AM
And why is that?

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4085901&postcount=101

Because they are doing what's expected of them? The scoring system of tennis is based on people holding serve, so it's hardly the end of the world if a player is doing this.

Let's say Roger Federer is playing Davis Cup against Pedro Sousa. In reality Federer should wipe the floor with Sousa, but somehow Pedro serves out of his mind and holds each game. They go to a tiebreak and Gastao has a shot to beat someone better than him if he keeps it together and plays well. I consider that more exciting than a lot of other things even if it is some less-skilled guy partially relying on his serve to try and make a match of it.

The serve is supposed to be an advantage that only you have control of so it makes sense that people would try and succeed at making it a huge advantage. I can't stand Ivo Karlovic, but hats off for making a career out of a serve I guess.

Anyways, most of the time players return well enough that someone cannot simply hold with a massive serve and not be skillful from the back of the court and/or the net. If an ATP player is off his game he can hardly just waltz into a tiebreak.

forbiddenfruit
09-07-2006, 01:30 AM
I seriously don'tunderstand this 'rivalry' between WTAworld and MTF. I can understand debates about which is better the ATP or WTA (there are obvious issues with depth in the fields)... but you have a group of tennis fans, insulting another group of tennis fans, most of whome enjoy both ATP and WTA matches. Both groups are made up of random samples (well considering the need for access to the internet etc etc). It's really ODD.

But the original post is hilarious. :bowdown: to whomever said it. Crotch scratching is real issue in ATP - it makes ATP tennis unsuiable for family viewing. :lol:

buddyholly
09-07-2006, 02:11 AM
highest IQ of all poster on WTAworld is 25 :)

Is that the sum or the average?

joeb_uk
09-07-2006, 12:32 PM
Without sounding too superior about it, what you really need over there, as TV viewers at least, is the interactive coverage we have where you choose between five courts - the three main ones, plus 10 and 11. That way you can pick men's or women's matches as you wish, or if you're like me constantly flick between them to try and catch the most dramatic and significant moments.

Interactive coverage :hearts: how all tennis should be broadcast ;)

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Interactive is great..
i really wanna be super rich one day so i be one of those ppl with 9 big screens all together in my living room... laying back on the couch, watching all 9 at once, every match :D