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Nadal sets sights low

dmit424
09-04-2006, 11:16 AM
"I'm on cue with what I want here. I'm aiming for the quarterfinal," he added. "I don't care about losing there. I'll be satisfied by reaching that."


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/tennis/specials/us_open/2006/09/04/notebook.sunday.ap/index.html

I am genuinely dissapointed with that kind of approach. All the more, I think that in reality, he wants to win it, but is trying to lower expectation for himself just as attempted to do by calling Federer the favorite in their French Open matchup. I just don't like that kind of attitude. Face up like a man, don't try to lower the pressure on yourself by trying to convince people that you don't really care about going further than the QFs.

Action Jackson
09-04-2006, 11:19 AM
Has Nadal ever done well on a fast hardcourt? He has already achieved one objective already.

Here is the problem, he plays it down. Then people are whining why doesn't he strut around like he is the big man and if he says the opposite, then it's what an arrogant sod he is.

Non-issue.

jenanun
09-04-2006, 11:22 AM
it think he just want to be realistic..... but he should aim for the SF.... considering his draw.....

oz_boz
09-04-2006, 11:25 AM
Calling Fed the favourite on clay was just :silly:. But who can blame him for wanting to lower expectations here? He has big wins on hardcourt, but he is obviously beatable on the surface. Personally I also think he feels pretty sure about reaching the SF, his opponents in R4 and QF can hardly hurt him.

dmit424
09-04-2006, 11:25 AM
Has Nadal ever done well on a fast hardcourt? He has already achieved one objective already.

Here is the problem, he plays it down. Then people are whining why doesn't he strut around like he is the big man and if he says the opposite, then it's what an arrogant sod he is.

Non-issue.


Yes, he plays it down. Which is cowardly.

And come on... So what that he has never done well on a fast hardcourt. The #2 player in the world, one that has beaten the #1 on a hardcourt and took a set off of him on a faster grass court, is going to set his sights for the QF? What kind of all-court player (which is what he is) who is ranked #2 and has beaten the "best ever" does that? We're not idiots, but he makes comments like he assumes we are.

Adler
09-04-2006, 11:28 AM
I think it's bullshit. I'm sure he's aiming sth more than "just" a quarterfinal. Look at the draw, people. Who can knock him down? Robredo?

Action Jackson
09-04-2006, 11:29 AM
Yes, he plays it down. Which is cowardly.

And come on... So what that he has never done well on a fast hardcourt. The #2 player in the world, one that has beaten the #1 on a hardcourt and took a set off of him on a faster grass court, is going to set his sights for the QF? What kind of all-court player (which is what he is) who is ranked #2 and has beaten the "best ever" does that? We're not idiots, but he makes comments like he assumes we are.

Why are you over reading this? He says what he wants to say. You don't have to believe it and for what it's worth I don't either.

It's not cowardly at all, he has to find the right way for him to be successful and if this is the tactic, then go ahead. Considering this is the best he has ever done at the US Open and Dubai is a lot slower than the US Open, or has that slipped your mind?

Naranoc
09-04-2006, 11:29 AM
I remember reading in the paper during the second week of Wimbledon that 'Nadal admits he has no hope of reaching the final', yet he managed to do it anyway. He probably doesn't want to get everyone all hyped up about another clash with Federer, but I still think he'll fight 100% in every match.

scoobs
09-04-2006, 11:34 AM
Rafa should make at least the semis and I think he has a very strong chance of him beating whoever he faces there.

dmit424
09-04-2006, 11:35 AM
Why are you over reading this? He says what he wants to say. You don't have to believe it and for what it's worth I don't either.

It's not cowardly at all, he has to find the right way for him to be successful and if this is the tactic, then go ahead. Considering this is the best he has ever done at the US Open and Dubai is a lot slower than the US Open, or has that slipped your mind?


Nothing slipped my mind. Simply, I am a Nadal fan and I don't want to hear him taking pity on himself as if he isn't a top-3 contender in this tournament. And I believe that it IS cowardly if his real goal is something greater (which I already said I believe it is). If he says he only wants to reach the QF, this means that any match from then on, the pressure is off him since he's "overachieving". He is lowering everyone's expectations. There is a pattern with this manner, just as I pointed out with the French Open.

And I am not really "taking issue". This is a tennis message board so I thought I'd post that because for me, it's having the effect of making me gradually lose respect for Nadal.

Naranoc
09-04-2006, 11:39 AM
If he says he only wants to reach the QF, this means that any match from then on, the pressure is off him since he's "overachieving". He is lowering everyone's expectations. There is a pattern with this manner, just as I pointed out with the French Open.

Who cares if 'the pressure is off him'', thus making it easier for it to win? I'd rather he performed well under less pressure than displayed some 'gallantry' and then, under the sheer expectation, got knocked out promptly on the next match. Whatever works for him is fine; if he feels he'll get less media attention this way and so can focus on his game, so be it.

~EMiLiTA~
09-04-2006, 11:42 AM
another case of overanalysing

Himura
09-04-2006, 11:42 AM
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I think it's bullshit. I'm sure he's aiming sth more than "just" a quarterfinal. Look at the draw, people. Who can knock him down? Robredo?

Acutally Robredo is playing very well but yes i do think that Nadal is gonna beat him if they were to collide. But all the players that have a good chance of beating him is in the upperside of the draw and can only meet him the final. www.usopendraw/admin/tonynadal.org

Naranoc
09-04-2006, 11:45 AM
It should be http://www.usopendraw/admin/uncletoni.org rather ;)

Himura
09-04-2006, 11:48 AM
it would be to obvious :P

DDrago2
09-04-2006, 11:48 AM
But all the players that have a good chance of beating him is in the upperside of the draw and can only meet him the final.

This happens again and again. I am almost sure now that it's no accident - ATP wants Nadal to do well and eventualy meet Fed in the finals. Pathetic. This game is loosing all sense

cmurray
09-04-2006, 11:49 AM
First of all, Nadal does NOT have a problem with confidence. You can see that everytime the man steps out on the court. He is just sick to death of people knocking him over the head about Federer and their rivalry.

Do you honestly, for one MOMENT think that Rafa believes he can't win the USO? That isn't how Rafa works.. but you know, the guy is 20 years old. I think we forget that sometimes. Maybe in his mind he thinks that if he talks about winning a tourney he has had very little success at, people will say that he's cocky (which they do already) and Rafa is the kind of guy that wants people to like him....well, off the court, anyway.

Johnny Groove
09-04-2006, 01:30 PM
Nadal is too arrogant! Nadal is too cowardly! Nadal will never be Federer! Nadal picks his ass too much! Uncle Toni rigs draws! Nadal is a moonballer! Nadal sucks!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You people really have nothing better to do :o

bokehlicious
09-04-2006, 01:33 PM
Nadal is too arrogant! Nadal is too cowardly! Nadal will never be Federer! Nadal picks his ass too much! Uncle Toni rigs draws! Nadal is a moonballer! Nadal sucks!

:worship: :worship: :cool: :cool:


:D

A_Skywalker
09-04-2006, 01:47 PM
Nadal will be vamos-ing in the final , I am sure ;)

sanpo
09-04-2006, 01:47 PM
Nadal is too arrogant! Nadal is too cowardly! Nadal will never be Federer! Nadal picks his ass too much! Uncle Toni rigs draws! Nadal is a moonballer! Nadal sucks!

This thread has magical powers. :worship: :worship:

One rafatard converted! :eek: :p

NaDALiTa
09-04-2006, 01:58 PM
Always the same stupid thread, i'm pretty sure the Rafa bashers must deeply love him, they read every interview, they even have more informations than us :haha: Poor you!!

He is realistic, he knows what he worthes on this surface, he knows there are guys better than him on hard, what should he say ? "Well i'm gonna kick their specialist's asses , unbelievable no? "
Be serious one minute, it's a great performance if he reaches the semi, it would mean that he is potentially able to win every GS , even Oz , the surface is slower than US one !!

It must be very annoying to be fan of Roger if your only distraction is findind informations on Rafa........... :rolleyes:

star
09-04-2006, 02:17 PM
And I am not really "taking issue". This is a tennis message board so I thought I'd post that because for me, it's having the effect of making me gradually lose respect for Nadal.

I think you didn't have much respect for Nadal anyway or this downplaying of his chances would make no difference to you.

Now, not to argue with you because you are concluded and what I say will make no difference, but merely to give my point of view: Nadal puts a lot of emphasis on being "humble." He admires humility in people and especially in his uncle. Perhaps Nadal sees modesty as more admirable than boastfulness or outspoken confidence. I just put that out there as a possibility, because unlike you and apparently others on this board, I don't know what is going through Nadal's mind.

You say Nadal is asumming we are idiots, but really, you are asuuming all kinds of things about him.

connectolove
09-04-2006, 03:01 PM
In this one he is just being realistic, with the French Open he was being extra humble. Nadal knows that he is not doing tooo great at the US Open, that there are other top guns. He will need a lot of good luck. I hope that he gets to the final at least, but I don´t have any expectations.

Pfloyd
09-04-2006, 03:04 PM
Yeah, sometimes these type of things can be over-analysed. But regardless of what he says, a semis should be his objective. I believe that Robredo can be a very dangerous opponent and if Rafa dosent raise his level he could be in serious trouble in that match.

One more point, if Rafa does make the semis, I really don't see him losing there...I see him losing in the final, or winning the whole thing, but a loss in the semis, no. For me it seems more plausible that he loses in the quarters

gillian
09-04-2006, 03:15 PM
He's probably just trying to set a realistic goal. I have no doubt that he'll try his best to get as far as he can. I have a hard time thinking of Nadal not trying on a tennis court.

supersexynadal
09-04-2006, 03:25 PM
he always says that..In the 05 french open he said hed be happy to get through the first round..HA!

supersexynadal
09-04-2006, 03:47 PM
:worship: :worship: :cool: :cool:


:D
OMG UR SWISS AND UR NOT A FED TARD!!!! :worship: :worship:

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 03:52 PM
Who is he trying to kid, the guy is the most winning obsessed player out there (and nothing wrong with that)
he looks disgusted any time he loses a point.
should win to the semis then have a shot against Roddick.

Corey Feldman
09-04-2006, 03:54 PM
and dont assume every negative Rafa thread, is started by a Fedtard... as every Rafatard will whine.

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 04:01 AM
Nothing slipped my mind. Simply, I am a Nadal fan and I don't want to hear him taking pity on himself as if he isn't a top-3 contender in this tournament. And I believe that it IS cowardly if his real goal is something greater (which I already said I believe it is). If he says he only wants to reach the QF, this means that any match from then on, the pressure is off him since he's "overachieving". He is lowering everyone's expectations. There is a pattern with this manner, just as I pointed out with the French Open.

And I am not really "taking issue". This is a tennis message board so I thought I'd post that because for me, it's having the effect of making me gradually lose respect for Nadal.

He only has to fulfill his own expectations and no one elses and as I said previously this is a non-issue and as has been said by other posters a total overanalysation of these comments.

He know what he needs to do and it's not like on clay where he is the dominant player, as a Nadal fan like you claim, then you'd know this.

Mimi
09-05-2006, 04:09 AM
rafa is a humble young man, he always is :cool:

dmit424
09-05-2006, 05:27 AM
He only has to fulfill his own expectations and no one elses and as I said previously this is a non-issue and as has been said by other posters a total overanalysation of these comments.

He know what he needs to do and it's not like on clay where he is the dominant player, as a Nadal fan like you claim, then you'd know this.


It's nice that everyone believes I am over-analyzing, except in my opinion, I am simply stating the fact that I don't like how Nadal is approaching this. Whether it affects him or not is not what I am debating, but simply how he has approached it. I don't like that aspect of his character. I take issue with it, so I think I can speak for myself.

If Hewitt came out and said that he doesn't care if he loses the French as long as he gets to the QF, I would be very dissapointed.

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 05:30 AM
It's nice that everyone believes I am over-analyzing, except in my opinion, I am simply stating the fact that I don't like how Nadal is approaching this. Whether it affects him or not is not what I am debating, but simply how he has approached it. I don't like that aspect of his character. I take issue with it, so I think I can speak for myself.

If Hewitt came out and said that he doesn't care if he loses the French as long as he gets to the QF, I would be very dissapointed.

Hewitt is not a realistic contender for RG and he knows that.

It's simple really everyone has their own way of dealing with things and has this proven to be successful for Nadal? Well yes. If so, then why would he change?

Merton
09-05-2006, 05:40 AM
I don't see what is the big deal, Nadal downplays his chances, I remember saying before the match with Volandri in Rome how difficult it would be and how the home crowd support would be challenging. This is one where Nadal cannot win, he will be accused either of arrogance or of hypocricy whatever he says.

The important thing is that he is improving, he is not Lendl on hardcourts by any means but he is getting better and that is what counts. Results will follow.