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Navratilova Comments about Federer/Racquets Wrong Headed

Nellie
09-04-2006, 04:50 AM
Just noticed her disparaging comments about how evolving racquet materials are bad for the game on usopen.org. Wrong, wrong headed, and hypocritical. Here's why. If not for better racquet technology she would not have been able to continue her tennis career, especially doubles, so long and continue to collect prize money. Last I noticed she was embracing the new bats or is she just painting her old wood racquets? Didn't evolving racquet technology finally help her prevail over Chris Evert-Lloyd to get to number one? Next, many would argue that because of more powerful racquets the game is more exciting and thus more popular, both mens and womens professional tennis tours. It has also helped to exponentially increase the prize money for both groups. As for Federer hanging on the baseline due to the newer racquet technology is also a misguided conclusion. Federer does whatever it takes and whatever he pleases to win championships. His talent reigns supreme. He already proved he can win attacking and now he will prove he can win from the baseline. Serve and volley game styles have always been less prevalent than baseliners as a whole in singles. It takes an exceptional serve and volley game to prevail over the best baseliners, e.g., Sampras, McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, all the great Aussies, Navratilova, Graff to name a few. Borg dominated the baseline on all surfaces like few others, if any, with a wood racquet. Agassi, Nadal and others dominate more because of footwork, conditioning and ball contact than racquet composition. The racquet holder not the racquet make a champion. Come on Martina, you should know that by now. I find it curious that Navratilova makes these comments on the eve of her retirement, seems like a low blow to the sport that gave her and us so much. Maybe it is time to find a new racquet, Martina. There is an adage, "only fools criticize, complain, and condemn, and most fools usually do." RFN

Scotso
09-04-2006, 04:53 AM
Use the enter key, please.

JW10S
09-04-2006, 04:56 AM
I do agree with her that the racquets, strings, and slower courts have pretty much made serve and volley tennis all but extinct. When I was competing everyone served and volleyed, baseliners were the exception, now the reverse is true.

BlueSwan
09-04-2006, 05:08 AM
Graf certainly wasn't a serve & volleyer.

ServeAlready81
09-04-2006, 05:49 AM
That b*tch never shuts up...retire and disappear

dmit424
09-04-2006, 06:07 AM
Who cares what she says. She's washed out and plays doubles. She is WAY past her due.

guy in sf
09-04-2006, 08:37 AM
New racket technology didn't help her beat Evert because whatever was available to her was available to Evert at the time of her rivalry. She surpassed Evert because she got better and Evert kind of stalled. I kind of agree with her on the racket thing, I think the game is different today because of the rackets and it would be interesting to see what the game would be like if the rackets didn't evolve so much, however, no can help the fact that the rackets evolve. She's been playing for a very long time so I think she does know what she's talking about. Just because she's opinionated doesn't mean she's wrong. I think fools like McEnroe opens his mouth and a lot of rubbish comes out all the time but no one's criticizing him cuz he's a guy. What she's saying about the rackets and Federer (I still don't know what was said, just going by your post) is not a clear right or wrong, it's simply an opinion and one that's no meant to hurt anyone.

Apemant
09-04-2006, 10:18 AM
I do agree with her that the racquets, strings, and slower courts have pretty much made serve and volley tennis all but extinct. When I was competing everyone served and volleyed, baseliners were the exception, now the reverse is true.

I'm not a tennis player myself, so I'd like to ask you something. How do these things factor in? At a first glance, more powerful racquets combined with slower courts should cancel each other out. Could you try to explain in detail how each of those factors (or their combination) makes serve & volley ineffective today?

mecir72
09-04-2006, 01:55 PM
Well basically you can say that the technique in the groundstrokes has changed alot with the modern racquets but the technique for volleys has not. The way the groundstrokes are played today wasnt possible with any kind of consistency before. And even though serves are better aswell it doesnt really help the volleyer as all it does is give you less time especially since the return is more improved than the serve with the newer racquets and the techniques they allow. The slowness of the court prevents the serve from dominating as it started to do in the 90's and to a degree makes it harder for the serve and volleyer.

Nidhogg
01-16-2010, 08:47 AM
It would have been interesting to see a line drawn at maximum racquet headsize allowed at, say, 95''. Such a regulation should emphasize control, feel and attacking tennis rather than sheer power and gets in absurdum in the game.

LleytonMonfils
01-16-2010, 09:40 AM
So the game has evolved just like most sports have? WOW! Shocking BOMBSHELL Navratilova. The lady was good but someone really needs to put a muzzle on her. She is always making some kind of ridiculous statement or comment. Sorry Martina the spotlight is off of you now. Move on.

scoobs
01-16-2010, 09:47 AM
It would have been interesting to see a line drawn at maximum racquet headsize allowed at, say, 95''. Such a regulation should emphasize control, feel and attacking tennis rather than sheer power and gets in absurdum in the game.
What I do think is that the game's authorities have been lax over equipment regulation and basically ceded control of this area over to the manufacturers, allowing them to build whatever they want and call it a tennis racquet as long as it's within certain guidelines, which are probably too loosely drawn.

That genie was let out of the bottle decades ago and there's no sign of it slowing down - the style of the game has changed even in the last ten years, spin rules now.

The manufacturers keep going and who knows what developments they will come up with next and what the game will look like ten years from now. It's something I hope the tennis authorities have belatedly become awake to and are keeping a close eye on the situation, though I suspect not.

the graduate
01-16-2010, 09:49 AM
we are tired of her ugly old ass

scoobs
01-16-2010, 09:50 AM
Well in fairness to Martina, this is a 3 year old thread that was bumped.

These are not brand new observations from her tired cracked ass.

sammy01
01-16-2010, 09:56 AM
What I do think is that the game's authorities have been lax over equipment regulation and basically ceded control of this area over to the manufacturers, allowing them to build whatever they want and call it a tennis racquet as long as it's within certain guidelines, which are probably too loosely drawn.

That genie was let out of the bottle decades ago and there's no sign of it slowing down - the style of the game has changed even in the last ten years, spin rules now.

The manufacturers keep going and who knows what developments they will come up with next and what the game will look like ten years from now. It's something I hope the tennis authorities have belatedly become awake to and are keeping a close eye on the situation, though I suspect not.

i agree with what you wrote. im worried tennis will go to far but i guess that remains to be seen.

as for nav, shes old school, you gotta respect that she played with a lump of wood probably heavier than she when a junior.

star
01-16-2010, 05:18 PM
Navratilova was part of the generation that spanned wooden to synthetic racquets.

"Living tennis legend Martina Navratilova used to play a couple of wood racquets in the 70s (apart from 1974-76, when she played a fiberglass racquet), e.g. Spalding Speedshaft and Yonex Carbonex2. The Yonex R-7 that she started playing in 1982 was her first graphite racquet. Then in 1984 she turned to the Yonex R-22 and kept on playing it for several years. In 1987, Navratilova used a black painted Dunlop Max 200G with the Yonex logo sprayed onto the strings, but 1988 saw he playing a white Yonex racquet (RQ-180) again, having signed with this company again."

Interesting website of a company that customizes stock racquets for professionals. I'm posting the part about Navratilova, but it's interesting over all. http://www.bosworthtennis.com/pages/stories.html

ossie
01-16-2010, 06:08 PM
Just noticed her disparaging comments about how evolving racquet materials are bad for the game on usopen.org. Wrong, wrong headed, and hypocritical. Here's why. If not for better racquet technology she would not have been able to continue her tennis career, especially doubles, so long and continue to collect prize money. Last I noticed she was embracing the new bats or is she just painting her old wood racquets? Didn't evolving racquet technology finally help her prevail over Chris Evert-Lloyd to get to number one? Next, many would argue that because of more powerful racquets the game is more exciting and thus more popular, both mens and womens professional tennis tours. It has also helped to exponentially increase the prize money for both groups. As for Federer hanging on the baseline due to the newer racquet technology is also a misguided conclusion. Federer does whatever it takes and whatever he pleases to win championships. His talent reigns supreme. He already proved he can win attacking and now he will prove he can win from the baseline. Serve and volley game styles have always been less prevalent than baseliners as a whole in singles. It takes an exceptional serve and volley game to prevail over the best baseliners, e.g., Sampras, McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, all the great Aussies, Navratilova, Graff to name a few. Borg dominated the baseline on all surfaces like few others, if any, with a wood racquet. Agassi, Nadal and others dominate more because of footwork, conditioning and ball contact than racquet composition. The racquet holder not the racquet make a champion. Come on Martina, you should know that by now. I find it curious that Navratilova makes these comments on the eve of her retirement, seems like a low blow to the sport that gave her and us so much. Maybe it is time to find a new racquet, Martina. There is an adage, "only fools criticize, complain, and condemn, and most fools usually do." RFNparagraphs are your friends