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TennisHack
08-10-2002, 04:52 PM
Ferrero v. Moya coming up on Center Court

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 04:53 PM
I'm watching it on TV, so I'll keep you up to date on Cliff & Pat's :rolleyes: comments.

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 04:56 PM
Okay, they are drooling over Juan Carlos, especially Patrick: "He's claimed some pretty big American scalps". I think they are giving the edge to Moya, though, for his versatility.

Layla
08-10-2002, 04:59 PM
Hi TennisHack! :wavey:

Thank you for being my eyes and ears on this occasion. ;)

GOOD LUCK JUANQUI! :bounce:

lin
08-10-2002, 05:01 PM
Good luck Juanqui :D

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:02 PM
Juan Carlos is wearing all white today, no fingers taped that I can see right now.

First Set
Moya to serve

1-0 Moya

Nacho
08-10-2002, 05:02 PM
Vamos Juan Carlos!! :D
But if you lose... Vamos Carlos!!! :D

So anyway, go Carloses!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:02 PM
:wavey: Hi, Layla. You don't think I would miss this, do you?

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:04 PM
1-1 Ferrero

Both held at love, but Moya didn't serve as many first serves in as Ferrero.

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:04 PM
The computer scoreboard is still showing last night's results. :confused: And the match has already started... :eek:

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:05 PM
2-1 Moya, he's getting first serves in now :) Another hold at love.

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:11 PM
Carlos is from the "Isle of Love", Cliff keeps saying. And they are definitely picking Moya to win this match.

Break point Moya . . .
Moya breaks 3-1

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:11 PM
:(

Nacho
08-10-2002, 05:12 PM
Grrrr VAMOS JUAN CARLOS!!!!

lin
08-10-2002, 05:12 PM
:(

Fight Juanqui !!!

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:14 PM
4-1 Moya holds

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:15 PM
Moya has come out of the gates slamming, and Juan Carlos isn't quite there yet. I hope he can get it together, because he hasn't really been able to touch Moya's serve yet.

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:16 PM
Wake up, Juanqui!

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:18 PM
Juanqui's got some fans in the crowd today :)

4-2 Ferrero holds

Why can't the Clif & Pat curse work on Moya?! :rolleyes:

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:21 PM
5-2 Moya

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:23 PM
This doesn't look good. Should I be worried? :(

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:25 PM
Ferrero is NOT moving well at all in the back of the court. He's also been struggling a bit on serve, nothing like yesterday :(

Ferrero holds 5-3

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:25 PM
Yes.

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:26 PM
Vamos Juanqui! Break him, please!

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:27 PM
First Set: 6-3 Moya

In 38 minutes.

Be very worried.

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:28 PM
:sad: booohoooohoooo

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:29 PM
Besides not moving well in the back of the court, I think Juan Carlos has backed up from his normal 6-8 ft behind the baseline--he's ending up way back with the cameramen. He's got to do something if he wants to pull this out.

Nacho
08-10-2002, 05:29 PM
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:34 PM
Second Set
Ferrero to serve

1-0 Ferrero holds

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:34 PM
Ooh, they did a little interview with Ferrero and they just played a bit of it. Messy hair is so cute :)

dots
08-10-2002, 05:38 PM
YAY!!!!!!
Carlos is on FIRE!!!!!


:drool: :drool: :drool:

btw, LMAO they showed the clip when Moya's head was stuck on Alex's front area :o :o :o

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:38 PM
Ferrero is being a bit more aggressive on Moya's serve when he can. He's winning the rallies when he can rip his return.

1-1 Ferrero

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:41 PM
2-1 Ferrero holds

dots
08-10-2002, 05:41 PM
Argghhhh 2-1 Ferrero

Nacho
08-10-2002, 05:41 PM
come on Juanqui, dont give up

dots
08-10-2002, 05:42 PM
SPANK HIM MOYA!!!!!!

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:42 PM
Juanqui's playing better, right? Please tell me he's playing better than in the first set.

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:42 PM
Ferrero is starting to play his game and Moya is starting to come down juuuuust a little bit. Ferrero's hold there was a little more comfortable than in the first set.

dots
08-10-2002, 05:44 PM
I just had a dirty thought after reading my own message:o

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:46 PM
Ferrero is coming up to the baseline (or even inside!) to return the second serve, so I take that as a vote of confidence for him. They are starting to play tough points, rallies.

2-2 Moya holds

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:49 PM
Ferrero's groundies are starting to connect, but he doubles for the first time.

C'mon Juan Carlos, get that serve cooking!! LOL, after I wrote that he spanks some good ones :)

3-2 Ferrero

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:50 PM
Double faults must do that to him, those last 3 serves were some of the best he's hit.

Layla
08-10-2002, 05:52 PM
I'm glad his double faults can inspire him to serve better as opposed to depressing him. :)

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:53 PM
:rolleyes: at Cliff and Pat and their US Open picks. Cliff picked Sampras as a contender (Pat picked Haas, along with Roddick) with the explanation of, "When was the last time Haas won a slam?"

Moya's serve is starting to flake a little.

3-3 Moya

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 05:54 PM
Pat picked Haas, along with Roddick) with the explanation of, "When was the last time Haas won a slam?"

Did he mean that as in "Haas should have won one by now", or did he mean "like Haas would ever win a slam" :p

I'm confused :confused:

Nacho
08-10-2002, 05:56 PM
Vamos Juan Carlos!!!! :D

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:57 PM
Tight, tight, tight game . . .

4-3 Ferrero holds

Damn netcord is on Moya's side, though.

Dissident
08-10-2002, 05:58 PM
Juanqui had a tough game at serve now. Moya played some good points, like the one with the lob, and Ferrero had to win the points. And he did that quite well, with some very good forehands. :)
Moya now to serve at 3-4

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 05:58 PM
Becca, Cliff means that since Haas has never won a slam, he's not a contender for the US Open.

Christ, at least Patrick thinks he can do some damage.

dots
08-10-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:rolleyes: at Cliff and Pat and their US Open picks. Cliff picked Sampras as a contender (Pat picked Haas, along with Roddick) with the explanation of, "When was the last time Haas won a slam?"

Moya's serve is starting to flake a little.

3-3 Moya


LMAO!!!! and how about when Cliff told PAt ..."and we all know why you pick Blake " ..."You are the Davis cup captain" :o :o

You go CLiff!!!!

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:01 PM
Oh, yeah, Ferrero is starting to be very aggressive and steping in on first serves, too. Moya is starting to miss . . .

Unfortunately, he doesn't miss quite enough.

4-4 Moya holds

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:01 PM
Unforced error for Ferrero 15-0
Unforced error for Moya now 15-15
Unforced error for Moya with the bh 15-30
Bad return for Ferrero 30-30
It would be nice to see a ball in play here...
Finally! Big forehand down the line winner for Moya. Beautiful play! 40-30
Huge serve to Juanqui´s body, return to net.
Game Moya 4-4

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:02 PM
Becca, Cliff means that since Haas has never won a slam, he's not a contender for the US Open.


But Roddick is a contendor? :p

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:04 PM
:(

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:05 PM
Moya has surged back, this is rather depressing. Especially since Ferrero has forgotten how to serve.

Moya gets 2 break points.

Ferrero double faults it away! :(

5-4 Moya

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:05 PM
Another unforced error for Ferrero. 0-15
First serve to the middle of the net. Great second serve return. Great play. 0-30
Ferrero in trouble again.
Good serve, forehand crosscourt winner. Well played! 15-30
Return winner for Moya... WOW :eek: 15-40
Moya tries the passing shot, late swing. 30-40
Double fault. :rolleyes:
Game Moya 5-4

dots
08-10-2002, 06:06 PM
OMG FERRERO DF"S and gives Moya the break!!!

Layla
08-10-2002, 06:06 PM
:sad: i can't watch this anymore. :sad:

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:06 PM
The problem with Ferrero´s serve is that he went for aces on ALL the first serves this game. Terrible decision, considering Moya is having a party time with his second serve.
Result: he had to force the second serve on a breakpoint and... the rest is history.

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:07 PM
pft, why can't he play like he did yesterday?

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:08 PM
So, do I actualyl want to tape this afterall :p

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:09 PM
Moya serving for the match

Match Complete: C. Moya d. J.C. Ferrero 6-3, 6-4

Juan Carlos was intimidated from the start, but with a bad netcord and a bad call on the second double fault, it was all Moya today. Moya didn't have many mental lapses, and when he did they were short. He was too confident for Ferrero and I'm sure is happy to avenge that previous hard court loss.

I'm disappointed in Juan Carlos, but what can you do? He's played long matches and came out waaaay too slow.

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:09 PM
Moya serves for the match and the place in the finals.
Ferrero puts a high ball on his defense, Moya with an easy overhead. 15-0
Ferrero risks, hitting with all his power. Moya not focused hits the backhand to the moon 15-15
Bad return 30-15
Moya is just too much right now! Awesome winner with the forehand down the line! 40-15
Another bad return
Game set match Carlos Moya! :bounce:

dots
08-10-2002, 06:10 PM
Moya wins!!!!!!

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:10 PM
Tennishack, will taping this just depress me? ;)

Layla
08-10-2002, 06:10 PM
no, it's too depressing :sad: i guess moya got his revenge for monte carlo after all. :(

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:11 PM
DOn't get me wrong, I dont mind taping matches he loses, but only if its a worthy match...

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:11 PM
Hitman, what can you do when your opponent hits more than amazing return winners on your serve? You have to go for broke, unfortunately he got a tight call that didn't go his way.

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:11 PM
Match stats
Carlos Moya vs Juan Carlos Ferrero
First serves in 65% vs 62%
Aces 1 vs 2
Double Faults 0 vs 2
Winners 21 vs 11
Unforced Errors 19 vs 19
Break points 2/3 vs 0/0

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:12 PM
Becca, Juan Carlos didn't play well. Moya played amazingly. If Moya doesn't win it would be a miracle (the whole thing).

It wasn't really all that close, it was Juan Carlos self-distructing.

proteus
08-10-2002, 06:14 PM
Thanks for the commentary hitman and th! :) How do you think Moya will do against Hewitt or Gonzalez on these courts? I haven't seen Gonzalez play yet. Moya seems to have Hewitt's number on clay!

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:14 PM
Did he look dissapointed?

Layla
08-10-2002, 06:15 PM
He was so close... :sad:

Well, congrats to Moya :) I sure hope he wins the tournament now!

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:15 PM
Yes, a bit. He was hanging his head the whole time, though.

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Hitman, what can you do when your opponent hits more than amazing return winners on your serve? You have to go for broke, unfortunately he got a tight call that didn't go his way.
You keep your first serve in and deep. And you try variating your serve. If your opponent keeps on hitting return winners, then its all his merit;
Juanqui went for it on ALL the serves in that game. You cant do that. Thats what I meant. :)

Dont get me wrong, Ferrero surprised me this week. He corrected his major fault on hard courts, his positioning. Today, though, things were not good and he went back to the wrong one. It happens. The tournament should leave great expectations about his UsOpen performance.
Carlos played too good today. :)

Nacho
08-10-2002, 06:16 PM
Oh well :(

Congrats Carlos. You'd better win now :)

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:17 PM
I'll tell you this, proteus. Hewitt or Gonzalez will have to be on the top of the ball the whole time to beat Moya. Moya's getting everything back, he won 100% of his net approaches (17 of 17), so they will have to bring it all to take him out.

Moya was playing too well for me to be angry at him for beating my boy. Another one of those destiny wins, I guess :) I think Moya has a good chance to take this thing home.

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:20 PM
I told Becca yesterday that if the Juan Carlos of the quarters and the Carlos Moya of the quarters were to play, Ferrero would win.
What happened, though, is that Moya stepped up and Ferrero stepped back. Those things that always happen and make our sport exciting.

Therefor, if the Carlos Moya of the semis shows up for the final, it will be hard to take it all from him. Very hard. If the "Careless" Moya, like Eggy said, comes back, then he can very well lose to either Hewitt or the big-hitter Gonzalez.

Fernando is a power machine. He hits the crap out of the ball every single shot. He is learning some new tricks, but thats what his game is based on. He can be a great player, but since he risks it a lot, its not out of question that he can make a ton of UE if hes not on a good day.

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by hitman

You keep your first serve in and deep. And you try variating your serve. If your opponent keeps on hitting return winners, then its all his merit;
Juanqui went for it on ALL the serves in that game. You cant do that. Thats what I meant. :)

Dont get me wrong, Ferrero surprised me this week. He corrected his major fault on hard courts, his positioning. Today, though, things were not good and he went back to the wrong one. It happens. The tournament should leave great expectations about his UsOpen performance.
Carlos played too good today. :)

But what I'm saying is, Ferrero felt trapped on his serve. He'd go hard to the forehand or backhand and get burned. His second serve would spin in and he'd get burned. He was still thinking about those amazing shots Carlos hit when he served his last game. It was too much and he unravelled.

And, when you're getting burned, you go back the way you always play, even if its wrong. :)

I think Juan Carlos should get through some rounds at the Open and they wil all be thrilling. But what's most important here is that he has a nice cushion of points so Roddick can't pass him before the Open :D

christinaE
08-10-2002, 06:22 PM
I hope Gonzalez is "on" today.

proteus
08-10-2002, 06:22 PM
Thanks TennisHack. It looks like it's going to be an interesting final then! I'm glad that Moya is doing so well again.

Dissident
08-10-2002, 06:26 PM
I dont wanna act like a broken disk, so please let me know if Im being one... :o

I agree with you, TH. He was indeed desperate and out of solution. BUT he was on that road before and he was a lot smarter. Did he try any kick serve, to get a high bounce back there and make Moya hit it on his unconfortable zone? I dont remember that happening. It was a bad day, Moya was hot and he didnt find a solution. And then he went for aces on despair. Imo, thats not the good solution, unless you are a Taylor Dent, a Goran Ivanisevic or a Pete Sampras.
:)

And about his chances on the Open, Im really curious to see his draw. If he can get some fair opponents for the first two rounds, he will build confidence and then everything can happen. I would love to see a spaniard winning that thing or getting to the second week. Just for the obvious reason, you know... ;)

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:29 PM
Well he's already gotten to the second Monday before, in 2000 when he managed about 5 games off Marat Safin ;)

TennisHack
08-10-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by hitman
I agree with you, TH. He was indeed desperate and out of solution. BUT he was on that road before and he was a lot smarter. Did he try any kick serve, to get a high bounce back there and make Moya hit it on his unconfortable zone? I dont remember that happening. It was a bad day, Moya was hot and he didnt find a solution. And then he went for aces on despair. Imo, thats not the good solution, unless you are a Taylor Dent, a Goran Ivanisevic or a Pete Sampras.
:)

I'm not disagreeing with you, hitman. I'm just saying I sat here and watched it and that's what I saw. Juan Carlos made some bad decisions, but I'm pretty sure he felt he had no choice.

And about his chances on the Open, Im really curious to see his draw. If he can get some fair opponents for the first two rounds, he will build confidence and then everything can happen. I would love to see a spaniard winning that thing or getting to the second week. Just for the obvious reason, you know... ;)

Well, he should be the #7 seed at the Open, but I'm not sure that will help. I'd be stoked if he made it to the second week, but I'm not going to kid myself about it either. His best result was his first year out, making it to the R16 (or was that his second year?). He's resting next week and training the week before the open, so I hope he can take some confidence in and of course I hope he gets a nice draw. I just wish his exit here in Cincinnati wasn't so deflating.

TheBoiledEgg
08-10-2002, 06:34 PM
Carlos was just simply stunning today :bounce:

hardly any moment of the Careless Moyaat all today :D

now good luck tomorrow and kick ass

just win this Carlos !!!!

Chloe le Bopper
08-10-2002, 06:36 PM
He made the fourth round on his second attempt.

He lost in the first round in his first grand slam, which was the 1999 us open.

dbc
08-10-2002, 06:46 PM
Thaks all for your commentary. Have just come in & could have gone straight to the end (& the result), but it was more fun reading it all.
Anyway, I'm in the minority being happy that Carlos is playing well and that he revenged his MC loss agains JC.
Hope he keeps up the high standard into the final.
Don't know about his performances in the Open, though do remember 2 yrs ago arriving in NY from Europe & watching his 1st 2 sets vs Todd Martin. At 2 sets up & after midnight I was too tired & slept, only to find the next morning that the Umpire called al the spectaors down to the front seats & Todd won the next 3 sets!
Of course, he did get to the final at the AO on a hard court, though the rebound ace isn't quite the same surface as the uS hard courts.

Pea
08-10-2002, 07:54 PM
Now it's Juan Carlos' turn! He can't beat his fellow Spaniards now.:eek:

Layla
08-10-2002, 08:02 PM
Good point Pea! He even lost to David Sanchez! :eek: Not to mention Albert and Alex. And it always seems to happen when he is on a roll. This used to be Alex's problem. I hope Juanqui gets over it, if it is a problem. :(

Gambill_Rules
08-10-2002, 08:47 PM
Well Done Carlos:)

Jessi
08-10-2002, 10:01 PM
Carlos :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

lin
08-11-2002, 01:13 AM
Juanqui :( :sad:

Gonzalez leads Hewitt 7-6(3) 4-3 :eek: :(

TennisHack
08-11-2002, 01:37 AM
Hewitt won the second set 7-5.

Fernando went to the bathroom after the set and Hewitt got a lower back massage. I don't know that I've ever seen that before :D

TennisHack
08-11-2002, 02:01 AM
Well, breaks of serve seem to do for Hewitt what double faults do for Ferrero: make he play better.

Gonzalez has died a slow death in the third set, Hewitt is up 5-2 now.

TennisHack
08-11-2002, 02:03 AM
Match complete: L. Hewitt d. F. Gonzalez 6-7, 7-5, 6-2

lin
08-11-2002, 02:16 AM
well done Lleyton :)

Lily
08-11-2002, 05:43 AM
Maybe Hewitt should have gone to the bathroom and Gonzalez get a back massage. ;)

oh well :(

TheBoiledEgg
08-11-2002, 09:55 AM
good try Gonzo, maybe he half peeled him, so Carlos can completely peel him again