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"Go 'head, bite the big Apple..." - Rolling Stones (Robby at the USOpen!)

Fee
07-15-2006, 05:39 PM
Yeah, I know that's the worst thread title, but I'm feeling a bit snarky this morning. :devil:

Indianapolis here we come, yay...

Fergie
07-16-2006, 01:36 AM
Good luck Robby! :yeah:

bavaria100
07-17-2006, 08:03 AM
Good luck Robby! Please win a match in Indy. :unsure:

tangerine_dream
07-17-2006, 05:25 PM
OK, if Robby's going to finally wake up and DO something now would be the time to do it: on hardcourts in the US where he last went on a tear. Come on Robby!!! :mad: :bounce:

idolwatcher1
07-18-2006, 01:26 AM
Yes, pleeeeeaasse win a match here, Robby! :scared: take out Falla tomorrow! This would be a good time to start winning some matches again... take advantage of your opportunities!! :bounce:

Deboogle!.
07-18-2006, 03:14 PM
Ginepri's back, hoping to rekindle the magic
Defending RCA champ has struggled this season, unable to win consistently
By Mark Ambrogi
July 18, 2006

A year ago, Robby Ginepri arrived in Indianapolis ranked No. 98 and needing a boost.

He got one by winning the RCA Championships, beating two-time champion Andy Roddick along the way.

Ginepri then reached the semifinals in the Masters Series tournament in Cincinnati in August and in the U.S. Open. The 23-year-old finished the year ranked No. 17.

His ranking hasn't changed, but he needs another lift here as he has struggled with a 6-16 record this season. He is 96th in the yearly ATP points race and will play Alejandro Falla today at the Indianapolis Tennis Center.

"It's been a rough year so far," said Ginepri, the RCA's No. 4 seed. "It's similar to last year except for the rankings. I feel if I keep playing, good things are going to happen. I've had some bad luck this year. I haven't been winning too many matches."

Ginepri knows he must start winning now to keep his ranking. He has plenty of computer points to defend this summer as the rankings are determined by a revolving 52-week calendar.

Ginepri was set to play on grass in Newport, R.I., last week but withdrew because of a viral infection.

"I still was able to train pretty hard at home," said Ginepri, who lives in Kennesaw, Ga. "My heart is still in it and I'm looking forward to playing again. My batteries have been recharged."

Ginepri, who practiced on Stadium Court on Monday, has another edge in his favor. He likes playing in the heat; temperatures were in the 90s again Monday.

Ginepri said many fans have showed support since he arrived in Indianapolis.

"A lot of people have said 'glad to have you back' and 'hope you repeat,' " he said. "It's comforting to be back, and hitting out on (Stadium Court) felt like it did last year. I'm hitting the ball extremely well and feeling fit. So there's no reason why I can't do it again."

NBC analyst and Tennis Hall of Famer Jim Courier watched Ginepri's improvement last summer. Courier said Indy is an ideal venue for Ginepri's physical style.

"Last year the difference maker for him was in his shot selection and patience, something he improved immensely, which led to the win at Indy and the semis of the U.S. Open," Courier wrote in an e-mail. "He was a 'tough out' last summer."

Ginepri said he developed confidence during last summer that he could beat the top players.

At Cincinnati, Ginepri beat Marat Safin before losing to Roger Federer in three sets in the semis. In the U.S. Open, he showed his fitness and fire, too, by winning consecutive five-set matches over Tommy Haas, Richard Gasquet and Guillermo Coria before losing to Andre Agassi in five sets in the semis.

"What I was lacking last year was the confidence to play with the top guys," he said. "Now I know I can do it again. I've just got to sink my teeth into a tournament."

Ginepri said there have been several matches this year where he has made too many unforced errors.

"I need to tighten the screws," he said.

Pepper LaRue
07-18-2006, 03:33 PM
T4P Deb! I really hope he can go deep in this tournament and gain some momentum for the summer tournaments. Go Robby!

Lee
07-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Robby, there's no way you can lose to Falla on hard court. WAKE UP!!!!!

Deboogle!.
07-18-2006, 11:19 PM
well he didn't, but it wasn't easy, including a DF on BP while serving for the match :unsure:

idolwatcher1
07-18-2006, 11:30 PM
Did Robby just win!??? :eek: I didn't catch the match until Robby was down a set and 4-5 in the 2nd... I couldn't be more happy that he pulled enough of himself together to win this! :woohoo: ... there were many points in this match that I felt he could have easily given up and just lost it... I hope he can get some rythym going from this! :)

Fergie
07-19-2006, 02:06 AM
Tough match :scared: ... Well done Robby :)

Fee
07-19-2006, 03:26 AM
Yay Robby!!!

(don't let it be the last, please).

rege
07-19-2006, 05:45 AM
:woohoo:

Side note: kinda liking the short hair...

idolwatcher1
07-19-2006, 06:10 AM
from an article...

Victory was sweet in two hours, 16 minutes. "I can't remember the last time I was this nervous before a match," said Ginepri. "Somehow I snuck this one out. I was absolutely exhausted, and a lot of that was nerves."

The winner overcame 57 unforced errors :scared: , striking 35 winners and breaking five times against Falla, who committed 61 errors :eek: .

"In matches like this, you really need the crowd support, they fire you up," Ginepri said of the fans who urged him on in searing heat and humidity.

Conditions proved to be draining for the winner. "I was absolutely exhausted. I wasn't playing close to my best tennis, but I found a way to win. That kind of a match is much more satisfying than winning in easy straight sets.

"I'll recover tomorrow and be ready to go for my next match."
:)

Falla committed 61 UEs :eek: ... I hope Robby's not as nervous in his next match as he was today, or if he is, that he is able to overcome the nerves the way he did today! Hopefully he will have less UEs also and play closer to his best tennis!

Fumus
07-19-2006, 02:58 PM
Robby wins by replay!

Tuesday, defending champion Robby Ginepri rallied to beat Alejandro Falla 4-6, 7-5, 7-5, with an instant replay challenge overturning a key point.

The event is the first U.S. Open Series tournament to allow players to challenge calls and get them reviewed using instant replay. Ginepri and Falla were tied at 5 in the second set when chair umpire Zsolt Beda of Hungary ruled a shot by Ginepri was out, giving Falla a 6-5 lead. But Ginepri challenged the ruling and the video showed his shot was actually in, giving him the lead. He went on to capture the second set.

"I'm glad they started it here," Ginepri said. "I needed to come up with the challenge, and it worked in my favor."

Each player gets two challenges per set to review line calls. A player loses a challenge only if the call stands. Players will receive an additional challenge during a tiebreaker but can't carry over challenges from one set to another.

Ginepri, seeded fourth, had lost his opening-round matches in 10 previous tournaments while struggling to a 6-16 record.

"The best part of this match was I didn't play nearly my best tennis, and I still found a way to win," he said. "That's much bigger than winning a 6-0, 6-1 match."

Fumus
07-19-2006, 03:04 PM
Woops, I just saw you posted this in the Robby news thread...but I thought it was a good story. I want Robby to play well, I like watching him play. He was playing the best tennis of his life last summer and he really carried that AUSopen but, he lost it against Gremlin and he hasn't been the same. I mean, that match he played against Federer at Cinncy, the match against Nadal in Madrid. He really should have beaten Agassi at the USO. I wish that he won one of those matches and took that step to being a top player like Blake did. I think he still can he just needs some more oppertunites, he's certainly not lacking the talent. Please play well this summer Robby!!!

tangerine_dream
07-19-2006, 06:09 PM
This has to be Robby's most impressive win in quite a while! :worship: He overcame his nerves, dropping the first set, his ue/winners ratio :lol: , extreme heat, and a bad line call that was overturned thanks to instant replay; not to mention his horrendous history of crashing out in the first round that's been going on all year long. Hopefully this will turn things around for him now. :D

And this. :lol:
Tennis studs: Women admire their, uh, game

During his off day Wednesday afternoon, Robby Ginepri sat in a sweaty tent and signed memorabilia for dozens of fans.

Ginepri estimated he signed about 300 autographs during last year's RCA Championships. Many autographs went to women who commented about Ginepri's good looks.

When asked if such interactions would make a girlfriend or significant other jealous, Ginepri snickered and said, "It's just business."

It's business as usual on the men's tour. Andy Roddick routinely draws similar crowds. The ATP Tour has nicknamed Tommy Haas "The Stud."

James Blake, named one of People magazine's sexiest athletes, was asked earlier in the week how big his female following is.

"Not big enough," he said.

Some piccies. Love the head dunk. :lol:

Robby Ginepri celebrates match point against Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Robby Ginepri challenges a call while playing Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Robby Ginepri challenges a call while playing Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Robby Ginepri gathers himself between points in the final set against Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Robby Ginepri celebrates a match point against Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Robby Ginepri dunks his head in a cooler of ice water before the final game in the final set against Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Robby Ginepri is seen after dunking his head in a cooler of ice water before the final game in the final set against Alejandro Falla of Columbia during the RCA Championships July 18, 2006 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

bavaria100
07-19-2006, 11:57 PM
Well done Robby! :yeah: But I have to say that he scared the shit out of me yesterday.

Lisa1062
07-20-2006, 10:54 PM
:bigclap:

Another win for Robby!! 6-2 6-7(2) 6-1

Keep it going!! I want to see you on TV on Saturday!!

Deboogle!.
07-20-2006, 10:55 PM
2 matches in a row he was broken serving for the match :unsure:

idolwatcher1
07-21-2006, 12:00 AM
YAY ROBBY!!! :bigclap: :woohoo:

Was that a brain freeze at the end of the 2nd set?... did his head stay in the ice cooler too long this time? :p ... Well, it thawed out in the 3rd set, and he pulled off another win!! :worship:

He'll play the blogger, Paradorn Srichaphan, next!... He beat him last year in 47 minutes!... but this year seems to be a whole 'notha story :o So I hope for the best tomorrow!!

GO ROBBY!!! :)

Lee
07-22-2006, 12:03 AM
:woohoo: Robby!

Fergie
07-22-2006, 02:26 AM
Robby 6-4 6-1 :worship:

idolwatcher1
07-22-2006, 02:28 AM
YAY!!! :woohoo: And we'll likely get to see Robby on TV tomorrow!! :) Good for Robby getting to the semis!!! I can honestly say, I expected something bad to happen again, or for him to get close to winning, but still lose (like most of his losses have been this year)... :bigclap:

I hope for a good match tomorrow!! I doubt Robby expected to defend his title this year after what he's been through... So I'm sure he'll take a SF spot! ;) At least he got to the semis for the first time since Madrid!... he needed to get to the semis of a tournament this year to gain some more confidence in himself, and I'm glad he did! :)

rege
07-22-2006, 05:09 AM
:woohoo:

Fee
07-22-2006, 06:26 AM
Well done. Obviously, the secret is for me to make a snarky thread title, which pisses Robby off and motivates him to make me look bad. Yeah, that's it exactly. ;)

Should be a good match tomorrow. Better be a good match, for both of their sakes.

idolwatcher1
07-22-2006, 07:31 AM
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8055/andyua1xh5.jpghttp://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6941/rgua1qn9.jpg

who will expose their Under Armour underwear the most?? :aplot: :p
Since Robby and Andy's match is scheduled during the NBC coverage, I think we'll get to see the majority of the match! :D I hope both are feeling good and ready to go at it! :devil:

bavaria100
07-22-2006, 03:06 PM
Well done Robby! :yeah: This is his first semifinal of the year and it would be soo great if he beats Andy, but this will be very hard to do. Anyways, semifinals is already a great result and a good start into the US Open series. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Fee
07-22-2006, 03:46 PM
:secret: The LA draw is out, but let's not talk about it here until Robby has finished playing his matches in Indy. I'm feeling a bit superstitious at the moment...

idolwatcher1
07-22-2006, 07:03 PM
:lol: the commentators on NBC just said that Robby doesn't have a coach with him this week... :haha: Robby's doing well on his own this time :cool:

Lee
07-22-2006, 07:14 PM
:lol: Robby's first serve % is awful (47) but he won 83% of his 2nd serve. Lots more than his first serve.

idolwatcher1
07-22-2006, 08:36 PM
I have to say, I was hoping there would be a tie-break in the first set to see what would happen there... Robby was 2 points away from getting it there, but got too jittery, and Andy broke at the only chance he got in that set...

Robby seemed less patient after that... Andy was growing in confidence and stayed pretty patient most of the time, not making a lot of errors. Robby made one too many errors in the 2nd set, hitting into the net, especially when Andy would hit the ball clean across the net and it appeared as though Robby was forced to return volleys from a bad position. It didn't help that Robby seemed a bit caught off gaurd some of the time too :unsure: ... but anyway, hopefully Robby will take the positives from this tournament with him, and take the negatives and learn from them! :) I'm hoping Robby can carry some momentum into the next tournament!

Fergie
07-23-2006, 02:30 AM
Robby :hug:

Fee
07-23-2006, 03:10 AM
Considering the year that he has had so far, Robby did well to get to the semi-finals here. Hopefully, he will keep this up for the rest of the summer.

On to LA where he will play Justin Gimelstob in the first round (because somebody in LA hates me...).

tangerine_dream
07-23-2006, 07:17 AM
I'm hoping Robby can carry some momentum into the next tournament!
I agree. I hope Robby takes away the positives from his week at RCA and does well for the rest of the summer. That horrible loss at AO really weaked havoc on Robby's confidence and he is just now starting to get it back so I hope he keeps getting better. :)

On to LA where he will play Justin Gimelstob in the first round (because somebody in LA hates me...).
LOL. Poor Fee :hug:

partygirl
07-23-2006, 07:56 AM
I hope Robby takes away the positives from his week at RCA and does well for the rest of the summer.
yeah, today he looked as attractive as i've ever seen him. :)

:hug:

rege
07-23-2006, 07:35 PM
Well, it's ridiculously hot, humid, and rainy here in Los Angeles today... I'm sure Robby is feeling right at home. :)

bavaria100
07-23-2006, 08:23 PM
It's disappointing that Robby lost his semifinal match against Andy, but this was a good and successfull tournament for him. He won 3 matches in a row for the first time this year and made it through some tough situations. A semifinal appereance is a great start into the US Open series and I wish him all the best for the tournament in Los Angeles next week.

Deboogle!.
07-24-2006, 12:10 AM
Hopefully these guys will not play til Tuesday :D

idolwatcher1
07-24-2006, 06:59 AM
Well, it's ridiculously hot, humid, and rainy here in Los Angeles today... I'm sure Robby is feeling right at home. :)
Hopefully so! :) I think he is getting back to the shape he was formerly in... The NBC commentators said that Robby had gotten the staph infection while in FRANCE (in May??), I think, and had been trying to treat it throughout the grass season... apparently this plagued him up until Newport. :awww: I'm sorry that happened to Robby, but now that he seems to be better, I hope he can keep playing well and keep his fitness level up, and maybe good things will happen for him again. :cool:

Robby isn't scheduled to play on Monday, so it looks like he will play on Tuesday... hopefully during the day like all of his Indy matches ;)

rege
07-24-2006, 07:12 AM
Robby isn't scheduled to play on Monday...

:secret: I heard he shared a ride into town with Andy late this evening.

Deboogle!.
07-24-2006, 03:44 PM
Robby isn't scheduled to play on Monday, so it looks like he will play on Tuesday... hopefully during the day like all of his Indy matches ;)Then we will be there :yeah:

idolwatcher1
07-25-2006, 03:53 AM
well... Robby is scheduled to play the last match of the day!... :ras: ... Is anyone going to see this night match?? I'll be going to bed around the time that match will be playing... :rolleyes: :fiery: grrrr... hopefully Robby plays well!

idolwatcher1
07-25-2006, 04:56 AM
:secret: I heard he shared a ride into town with Andy late this evening.
hmmm... they probably shared more than a ride into town :tape: Oh, people, people! lol, that's cool... I was hoping for a good hug at the end of their match, but Andy seemed to pull away too quickly after Robby ran to congratulate him... ah well... :p

http://www.filecabin.com/members_vb/files/65806/rg-ar1c.gif

Deboogle!.
07-25-2006, 05:52 AM
well... Robby is scheduled to play the last match of the day!... :ras: ... Is anyone going to see this night match?? I'll be going to bed around the time that match will be playing... :rolleyes: :fiery: grrrr... hopefully Robby plays well!Nope, we're not going to the night session :( But he'll warm up a little before, so we'll probably be there to see that if he does it on the on-site practice court :)

rege
07-25-2006, 08:38 AM
Work commitments prevent me from attending the match, but I know someone who is volunteering at the event and promised to stop by for a few minutes on my behalf during break times.

Good luck, Robby!

Fergie
07-25-2006, 07:26 PM
Go Robby! :bounce:

Deboogle!.
07-26-2006, 04:35 AM
So today, before Robby's match, there were these kids on the main practice court at the event. This one boy who said he had just turned 8 was sooooooooo cute. he was AMAZING, like, unreal forehand and stuff. So good. So Robby comes in to warm up before his match and the security is telling this kid to leave. But then Robby is hitting with him for a few minutes. it was SO SWEET omg. And when they finish, Robby shakes his hand and the kid is walking to go out of the practice area and has the biggest smile on his face I've ever seen.

It. was. freaking. adorable.

idolwatcher1
07-26-2006, 05:37 AM
AWW!! Thanks for sharing that Deb! :hug:

After the first two games, I hope Robby can kick things into gear... he doesn't seem too great right now... Justin wants to win too, and Robby will have to pick things up if he wants to win here... :unsure:

Fee
07-26-2006, 05:39 AM
Wow, you can tell all of that from a scoreboard? That's impressive.

Wonder what Robby and that young boy talked about...

Fee
07-26-2006, 06:14 AM
Robby won the first set 6-4, breaking Justin at 4-4, then serving it out and saving one break point against him in the last game.

Fee
07-26-2006, 06:31 AM
Robby broke Justin in the first game of the second set. Barring a major meltdown, he should take this match now. I'm too tired to stay up for it, so I'll check back in the morning. :)

bavaria100
07-26-2006, 01:29 PM
Congrats Robby! 6-4, 6-4 is a good result, but I have to say that Robby needs to improve his bp conversion. I really have to say that he's on a good way and I hope that he can keep this up.

Fumus
07-26-2006, 04:22 PM
Good win for Robby, he's really picking up his game. I hope he keeps his head together and continues to win matches.

Fergie
07-26-2006, 06:41 PM
Well done Robby! :D

Deboogle!.
07-27-2006, 09:51 PM
My pics from LA :)
http://www.menstennisforums.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/786/page/2/perpage/24/sortby/f/way/asc

MTF being a :retard: so I can't put the thumbnails here but Robby's are on the last page :)

Lee
07-28-2006, 01:59 AM
*phew* Robby! Almost got broken serving for the match. A tough one (from the score) but a good win. :yeah:

Fergie
07-28-2006, 02:26 AM
Robby d. Carlsen 76(5) 36 64 :bounce:

Fee
07-28-2006, 04:42 AM
Robby won today because another MTF-er was at the tournament and said hello to him for me before the match (I haven't seen him since the USO last year). Obviously, he was inspired to know that I was still thinking of him and he went on to win his match, but it wasn't pretty.




Okay, that's not what happened... :p

idolwatcher1
07-28-2006, 05:01 AM
:woohoo: So glad Robby ended up winning today!!... too many momentum changes for my taste in this match today :scared: He's into the LA QF again though, YAY! :) Go Robby!!... please win scaring us less next time :p

rege
07-28-2006, 09:18 AM
That picture of Robby with the kid is absolutely adorable... thanks, Deb!

I hope Robby doesn't try to win the hard way tomorrow night, too... he scared the $#!^ out of me today!

Lee
07-29-2006, 04:49 AM
Robby fell apart from first set TB :sad:

Looks like an exodus of US Americans today. :eek:

Deboogle!.
07-29-2006, 05:00 AM
Robby was..............awful tonight.....:(

Lee
07-29-2006, 05:00 AM
So Ginepri completed the exodus.

Goldstein, Agassi, Roddick and finally Ginepri!

Deboogle!.
07-29-2006, 05:12 AM
:sad: :sad: :sad: Poor tournament, it will really suffer. Big difference in the crowds when Americans play.....

bavaria100
07-29-2006, 03:24 PM
Honestly, I'm not surprised about the result. I don't know why, but I already had the feeling that Hrbaty was going to win this match. :sad: It was still a great week for Robby and he defended his quarterfinal points from last year. :yeah: I think he lost early in Washington last year so that he has an opportunity to gain some points next week. Robby is finally getting his game back together and I'm already looking forward to next week's tournament.

Fergie
07-29-2006, 06:25 PM
Robby :sad:

idolwatcher1
07-29-2006, 09:30 PM
Honestly, I'm not surprised about the result. I don't know why, but I already had the feeling that Hrbaty was going to win this match. :sad: It was still a great week for Robby and he defended his quarterfinal points from last year. :yeah: I think he lost early in Washington last year so that he has an opportunity to gain some points next week. Robby is finally getting his game back together and I'm already looking forward to next week's tournament.
I'm not too surprised myself... :sad: The only other time these two played each other (2005), Hrbaty beat Robby rather easily. Last night, Robby got broken a bit too easily in the second set... Robby said this week that he doesn't think his serve is as effective as it was last summer. I can't say I disagree with him. Although, sometimes his serve seems good, I don't think it's at a consistently good level throughout a match... If he has the desire and the discipline, he will be working on his serve more before AMS Canada. ;)

I don't think Robby planned to go to Washington this summer, so I think his next tournament will be in Toronto. He has the opportunity to pick up some points there, and I hope he does! :)

I didn't follow the match last night, but I heard that Robby got an unfair call (from what it sounded like), where the instant replay made an "obvious" error, but the umpire did not overrule! :eek: :mad: Does anyone know when in the match this happened?? Robby's been known to dwell on negative points during the match after they've happened, and not quite recover... :sad:

rege
07-30-2006, 09:16 AM
I didn't follow the match last night, but I heard that Robby got an unfair call (from what it sounded like), where the instant replay made an "obvious" error, but the umpire did not overrule! :eek: :mad: Does anyone know when in the match this happened?? Robby's been known to dwell on negative points during the match after they've happened, and not quite recover... :sad:

It happened near the middle of the first set... a combination of technical quirk in the Hawkeye system and user error. My friend at the tournament drove some of the ATP guys back to the hotel and learned that the person who was operating the Hawkeye system did not "tell" the computer which side Hrbaty was serving to. Apparently, when Hrbaty's first serve grazed the net, the operator needed to manually override the default mode... but didn't.

The linesman/woman called the serve out and Hrbaty challenged. The replay showed that the ball was clearly out but, because the system thought he was serving to the other side, the system called it "in." Unfortunately, the umpire is not allowed to overrule the system even though user error was to blame.

My friend also got to drive Robby back to the hotel after the match (exact quote: :rolleyes: yeah, that was reeeeeealy fun) and got the impression that it bugged him, though he knew it wasn't the tipping point. Also said that he was completely silent for some time... then the first thing he finally said to the guy with him was something along the lines of "how bad was that call?"

idolwatcher1
07-30-2006, 08:08 PM
It happened near the middle of the first set... a combination of technical quirk in the Hawkeye system and user error. My friend at the tournament drove some of the ATP guys back to the hotel and learned that the person who was operating the Hawkeye system did not "tell" the computer which side Hrbaty was serving to. Apparently, when Hrbaty's first serve grazed the net, the operator needed to manually override the default mode... but didn't.

The linesman/woman called the serve out and Hrbaty challenged. The replay showed that the ball was clearly out but, because the system thought he was serving to the other side, the system called it "in." Unfortunately, the umpire is not allowed to overrule the system even though user error was to blame.

My friend also got to drive Robby back to the hotel after the match (exact quote: :rolleyes: yeah, that was reeeeeealy fun) and got the impression that it bugged him, though he knew it wasn't the tipping point. Also said that he was completely silent for some time... then the first thing he finally said to the guy with him was something along the lines of "how bad was that call?"
rege, thanks for letting me know! :worship:

Your friend is too shy! I would have been talking it up with Robby! :lol: So Robby said, "yeah, that was reeeeeealy fun", referring to his match, in general, or referring to the line call dispute? Sounds like he was thinking about it a lot... :awww: Come back stronger Robby! :hug:

rege
07-31-2006, 06:36 AM
rege, thanks for letting me know! :worship:

Your friend is too shy! I would have been talking it up with Robby! :lol: So Robby said, "yeah, that was reeeeeealy fun", referring to his match, in general, or referring to the line call dispute? Sounds like he was thinking about it a lot... :awww: Come back stronger Robby! :hug:

No, the quote was from my friend describing the experience... it was the only time she had to drive a player right after a loss and he came out literally minutes after he walked off the court.

Said he was wearing a cap pulled down low and kinda had that "I just want to get the hell outta here" vibe, so she didn't want to bug him.

Pepper LaRue
07-31-2006, 03:16 PM
Fee...love the new thread title hey. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/Giggling_emoticon.gif

idolwatcher1
08-01-2006, 12:22 AM
No, the quote was from my friend describing the experience... it was the only time she had to drive a player right after a loss and he came out literally minutes after he walked off the court.

Said he was wearing a cap pulled down low and kinda had that "I just want to get the hell outta here" vibe, so she didn't want to bug him.
oh, I see :lol: ...yeah, I guess she would have felt more comfortable talking with him if he didn't look so dejected and knowing he had just lost a match... That's why, if I ever meet Robby, I hope I can meet him before he plays a match, so that if he loses, there's not that sort of awkwardness... although I'd probably give him a hug either way! :lol: :hug: Thanks for sharing!

rege
08-01-2006, 05:13 AM
oh, I see :lol: ...yeah, I guess she would have felt more comfortable talking with him if he didn't look so dejected and knowing he had just lost a match... That's why, if I ever meet Robby, I hope I can meet him before he plays a match, so that if he loses, there's not that sort of awkwardness... although I'd probably give him a hug either way! :lol: :hug: Thanks for sharing!

She saw him before a match earlier in the week, too... thought about approaching him but said he looked like he was trying to quietly slip through to the locker room (well, as quietly as a guy with a big bag of tennis raquets slung over his shoulder can slip through a small crowd at a tennis tournament) and didn't want to bother him then, either.

She's much too polite! :lol:

Fee
08-01-2006, 05:20 AM
Your friend is too shy! I would have been talking it up with Robby! :lol:

Glad to see you're joking about that. Under the best circumstances drivers have to know when to speak to a player and when not to. After a loss, you don't say a word. If I had been Robby's driver, I wouldn't have said anything to him (personally, I prefer not to drive the players I know after they lose unless they ask me to. I'm usually kind of bummed too).

rege
08-06-2006, 09:05 AM
Toronto's draw is out... :eek: Nalbandian in the first round.

Pepper LaRue
08-06-2006, 11:33 PM
Nalbandian in the first round.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/thWTH.gif

Deboogle!.
08-06-2006, 11:36 PM
Actually, no.... because Andy pulled out, Robby was put in his place and is the 17th seed and he has Kevin Kim, then most likely Verdasco, then most likely James. and he and James are playing doubles together too.

good luck Robby :)

Pepper LaRue
08-07-2006, 12:21 AM
Actually, no.... because Andy pulled out, Robby was put in his place and is the 17th seed and he has Kevin Kim, then most likely Verdasco, then most likely James. and he and James are playing doubles together too.


That is MUCH better! LOL! Good luck Robby!

rege
08-07-2006, 06:28 AM
Actually, no.... because Andy pulled out, Robby was put in his place and is the 17th seed and he has Kevin Kim, then most likely Verdasco, then most likely James. and he and James are playing doubles together too.

good luck Robby :)

That's a bit of a relief... even though that puts him in Nadal's quarter of the draw.

Go get 'em, Robby!

Pepper LaRue
08-08-2006, 08:16 PM
Did anyone see the match w/Kim today? How did Robby win the 1st set and then manage to lose the next two?!

tangerine_dream
08-08-2006, 08:17 PM
omg, Robby, why are you losing to Kim? :sobbing When are you going to get your game back? :awww:

Deboogle!.
08-08-2006, 08:21 PM
They just showed parts, but from what the commentators said, Kim was going for too much early on but then played it safer and he just hit deep, pushing Robby behind the baseline and Robby proceeded to self-destruct. Kim is obviously in pretty good form, pushing James to 3 and then qualifying for Toronto but it looks like Robby just fell into his trap and made too many mistakes :(

bavaria100
08-08-2006, 09:51 PM
Stand in the corner Robby! :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

rege
08-09-2006, 05:35 AM
:bigcry:

I was following the live scoring and, if I remember correctly, Robby had a break opportunity at 5-5 in the 2nd but failed to convert... and then lost his serve to lose the set.

What is it going to take for this boy to snap out of his funk?

Fee
08-09-2006, 05:57 AM
Dammit Robert!!!!

Pepper LaRue
08-09-2006, 03:08 PM
Hopefully he'll have better results in doubles this week with Blake.

Deboogle!.
08-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Hopefully he'll have better results in doubles this week with Blake.They already lost :( Last night to Safin/Tursunov...

Pepper LaRue
08-09-2006, 05:44 PM
They already lost Last night to Safin/Tursunov...

Nooooooooooooooooooooo! :mad:

rege
08-12-2006, 07:43 AM
Barring any changes, looks like Robby's got Paul-Henri Mathieu in the first round in Cincy.

If all goes well (light a candle, say a prayer), next up would be Grosjean or Tursunov... then Federer in R3.

Deboogle!.
08-12-2006, 03:14 PM
What a draw. :awww:

Pepper LaRue
08-12-2006, 03:49 PM
My goodness. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/thWTH.gif Robby's been getting some tough draws this year. Combine that with his poor play and it doesn't look so good for our young Robert. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/gah.gif

Deboogle!.
08-14-2006, 04:28 AM
Robby's doing the ATP Blog from Cincy this coming week. His entry is actually pretty interesting, but can someone please tell him how to spell, because he's embarrassing all Americans :sad:

rege
08-14-2006, 05:28 AM
...can someone please tell him how to spell, because he's embarrassing all Americans
Or just introduce him to the "spellcheck" function on the computer... or maybe someone at the ATP can translate his blogs into English for him like they did for Nadal.

:p

Good luck, Robby!

idolwatcher1
08-14-2006, 06:31 AM
On the ATP website where it displays the preview for Robby's blog entry, it says, "Why I like people walking all over me. Hanging at Waffle House. And Hozelrocket hijinx." I knew Robby was a masochist! :haha:

It's odd seeing Robby blog in a week where he has a VERY tough draw and isn't likely to get past the first or second round... :rolleyes:

...can someone please tell him how to spell, because he's embarrassing all Americans

aww... :lol: he made 3 spelling mistakes that I noticed (all in the same paragraph), unless you include "shmeal" and "hozelrocket"... 3 out of 869 words is probably better than most Americans and MTF posters on a good day :lol: James made more spelling mistakes so far... :p we'll see how Robby holds up :haha: I'm just glad I didn't see the "would of" used so far! :lol: I see that so often on forums! Good Robby for passing that test :angel:

Pepper LaRue
08-14-2006, 03:02 PM
Yay! I was hoping Robby would blog on the ATP site. Good luck Robby!

Lee
08-14-2006, 07:02 PM
Tiramisu and guacamole :drool: But Waffle House! :tape: May be those in the east is better, here Waffle House is health hazard.

Lee
08-15-2006, 01:16 AM
:woohoo: After losing 1-6 in 1st set, Robby came back and won the match 1-6 6-3 6-4

Hopefully it's Robby fighting hard, not PHM being a headcase that he is.

Deboogle!.
08-15-2006, 01:55 AM
Renata said that Robby started out really awfully and then PHM started playing poorly, so I think it was probably a combination of both. It's rarely that PHM loses when not being at least a partial headcase ;) but good for robby hanging around and coming back :)

Fee
08-15-2006, 02:37 AM
That's a relief. I got busy at work and couldn't check the results. He lives to fight another day. :)

Fumus
08-15-2006, 03:53 AM
yea it was such a weird match...

anyways Robby looked like his old self after the second set...good stuff!

rege
08-15-2006, 05:35 AM
I was keeping an eye on the live scoring while at work and was ready to close my door and weep after the first set.

Nice to see him turn it around in the second set and not let up in the third... it was almost like somebody told him " :secret: psst! Robby, this isn't the warm up anymore--the match has started."

Good luck in R2, Robby!

Deboogle!.
08-15-2006, 03:40 PM
Ginepri battles nerves, expectations
Sinking No. 18 player avoids early exit
BY DUSTIN DOW | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

MASON - The pressure is getting to Robby Ginepri. He'll find out in the next few weeks whether or not he can handle it.

"I'm feeling pretty nervous out there on the court," said Ginepri, who won his first round match against Paul-Henri Mathieu Monday in the Western & Southern Financial Group Masters. "I don't feel like it's allowing me to play the potential of my game."

That's a problem because Ginepri demonstrated his potential this time last summer when he reached the semifinals here and duplicated that feat at the U.S. Open. Life on the court has been difficult ever since, and now Ginepri, ranked No. 18, is in danger of losing the 12-month ranking points he earned last year here if he doesn't put forth a good showing.

The individual, mentally taxing nature of tennis, however, makes it difficult for him to replicate his results of one year ago.

"If I could do that right now," Ginepri said, "I would love it. I think that's the way I feel out there on the court is because of these next few weeks and what's happening. You know, after this time last year I was kind of already thinking about having to come back and defend so many points, but you got to live it to learn it. Hopefully I won't learn it the hard way and fall out."

It looked like he might be headed for another quick exit on Monday when Ginepri lost the first set to Mathieu 1-6. But Ginepri, who made an encouraging semifinal run in Indianapolis in July, won the second and third sets, 6-3, 6-4.

He'll face Dmitry Tursunov in the second round.

"I haven't sunk my teeth into a tournament this year so much and it's because the first round is just so difficult for me," Ginepri said. "I haven't had too many matches. It's tough to get the ball rolling."

Ironically, Ginepri said he thinks that last season's success might be working against him as he tries to maintain his ranking.

"I think I've gotten smarter," Ginepri said, "which is actually hurting me. It's tough out here, and you've just got to play your game and not worry about anything. That's what I was doing last year."

bavaria100
08-15-2006, 03:40 PM
Robby played like crap in the first set. It was horrible to watch. He couldn't get more than 2 shots in a row over the net. The good thing was that he was able to pull himself together in the next 2 sets and his serve really got him many free points (it also helped that Mathieu missed many easy second serve returns ;) ). I'm just happy that he finally won a match again.

Lee
08-15-2006, 11:09 PM
ESPN showed the 3rd set from 2-3 after Blake's match last night. I think Robby played solid but not spectacular.

idolwatcher1
08-16-2006, 06:34 AM
I only saw the last 5 games of the match and the highlights video. I was surprised that Robby's nerves didn't seem to show at all in the last set (of what they showed us), which is encouraging to see!... He seemed more focused, and he anticipated and moved a lot better than I have seen from him in previous matches this year. I've said this before, but he needs to pretend he's already lost all his points this year, and just focus on playing tennis and getting better at it, rather than overwhelming himself with pressure and nerves... obviously, this is easier said than done, but he should still do it :p

Playing one of the Top 4 players in the US Open series will be quite a test for him... And it will suck if he loses, but at the same time, I still think it's good for him to play a tough opponent and be tested... If he's going to lose, at least it won't be to a qualifier this time... :p I would love for him to step up his game and surprise us!!

Good luck, Robby!! Evening matches :ras:

Pepper LaRue
08-17-2006, 03:41 AM
Yay for Robby beating Tursonov today! Hopefully the luck and good play will continue tomorrow for his match with Murray aka Fedkilla. LOL!

Fee
08-17-2006, 04:26 AM
:yippee:

idolwatcher1
08-17-2006, 05:49 AM
YAY!! :woohoo: Robby said he was confident going into his match against Dima! :) That's really good to hear, and Dima didn't even reach a break point against Robby!! I hope he can keep that going... Beating #4 and #2 in the US Open series standings would be quite something! Good luck Robby!! :D

Deboogle!.
08-17-2006, 05:56 AM
I mean..... I watched the first half of the match on the online feed and Dmitry could barely keep a ball in play; when he's off, he's really off, and he was really off tonight. Good for Robby for getting the job done cleanly. Murray may have an emotional letdown tomorrow, but assuming he won't, Robby would have to play a whole lot better than he did today (which was basically just doing what he had to).

bavaria100
08-17-2006, 10:54 PM
Robby lost in 3 sets today and unfortunately, choked the match away. He lead 4*-2 in the third set and couldn't hold the ball in play from that point on. He even topped this when he missed an easy smash on gp at 4*-5. This loss is as bad as the one against Gremmelmayr and I think he'll think about this one for a very long time.

Deboogle!.
08-17-2006, 10:56 PM
Robby lost in 3 sets today and unfortunately, choked the match away. He lead 4*-2 in the third set and couldn't hold the ball in play from that point on. He even topped this when he missed an easy smash on gp at 4*-5. This loss is as worse as the one against Gremmelmayr and I think he'll think about this one for a very long time.I agree completely. It was painful to watch and Robby will definitely be kicking himself over losing to a guy who could barely walk.

Lee
08-17-2006, 11:23 PM
And I thought he's over with that mental hurdle. :smash: Robby.

I was so mad after his lost that I need some time to cool down before posting.

WillRogersBeach
08-17-2006, 11:56 PM
Who were the three guys in Robby's box? I recognized his father and Diego Ayala. Who was the 3rd guy?

rege
08-18-2006, 05:29 AM
:bigcry:

From Robby's post-match press conference...

It was, you know, mine to win and I didn't capitalize. It's disappointing when things haven't been going that great the whole year and then this rolls up. But I'll get over it.

I hope so, Robby!

Pepper LaRue
08-18-2006, 03:03 PM
*le sigh* So close Robby! ESPN showed the final few games of the match last night and it just seemed like Andy's strategy was to float the ball back and wait for an UE from Robby. More often than not, he got his wish.

With that said, is Robby playing in the next tournament before the Open?

Deboogle!.
08-18-2006, 03:22 PM
His blog said he was flying back to Atlanta today and he's not on the New Haven Entry List so I think he's off now til the USO :)

GermanBoy
08-18-2006, 03:29 PM
This stupid Murray has just robbed us one of the best blogs we have had yet... :mad:

I hate Murray, can't understand why everybody jumps on his bandwaggon!

Robby :rolleyes: , get your act together for the US Open please!

Deboogle!.
08-18-2006, 03:50 PM
Ah here's our answer.
=====================
2006 WESTERN & SOUTHERN FINANCIAL GROUP MASTERS
CINCINNATI, OHIO

August 17, 2006

A. MURRAY/R. Ginepri
7-6, 2-6, 6-4

ROBBY GINEPRI



THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.



Q. Did you sense that he was tired early in the second, in the third?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I mean, it was obvious to everyone that he was exhausted out there.



Q. With that said, then, how big of a missed opportunity was it for you?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I mean, that's a pretty silly question. It's obvious that that match was just in the palm for the taking. I let it go by like that (snapping).

It's disappointing.



Q. What was the reason for that? Can you put your finger on it?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I mean, I started playing a little bit tentative and he took a couple big rips, took some chances. He wasn't going to stay in the point, try to rally and win it that way, so he's got to go for it. Got, I guess, a little tight. I don't know. I didn't really feel that tight, but started missing first serves and backing off on how I got up in the third set.



Q. You said yesterday you feel your game is almost there. Besides the loss, do you still feel that way?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I'm not really thinking about much right now.



Q. When momentum starts to go away from you like it did at the end of the third set, how difficult is it to turn it around?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I had game points in both games, so it's not like I was missing out on anything. It's not like I was getting broke at Love or anything. So I was right there in both games.



Q. Can you take any positives from a match like that? Can you learn from it?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I mean, I played -- you know, I fought hard the whole match and just didn't get the outcome I deserved.



Q. Are you more disappointed that you just lost the match or that you lost an opportunity to advance in this tournament with Federer out and, you know, the bigger picture?

ROBBY GINEPRI: I'm not looking at the bigger picture. I was just looking at the match. It was, you know, mine to win and I didn't capitalize. It's disappointing when things haven't been going that great the whole year and then this rolls up.

But I'll get over it.



Q. Where do you go next week? Do you go to Connecticut?

ROBBY GINEPRI: No, I'm gonna go home to Atlanta, practice for a few days, and head up to the Open Wednesday.

Fumus
08-18-2006, 04:00 PM
I am so sad for Robby, it's a bad loss he was playing so well. These things happen but overall Robby has played alot better this summer and he has had some good wins. Heck, it's not often that you can say Robby Ginepri made it further in a tournement than Roger Federer did...so he's doing pretty good. Finding confidence and getting big wins doesn't usually happen all at once it takes time, Robby is on the right track...what needs to find is consistancy. The way he started the week losing that first set the way he did to Mathieu he has to be delighted with his form and really just appricate the fact that he did progress as far as he did and he did play as well as he did. He looked like the Robby of last summer which to me, looks like a top 10 guy.

So Robby if you are out there somewhere at a waffle house, don't let this loss phase you. Let it make you hungry and I hope to see you continue your good form for the rest of your career. :yeah:

Pepper LaRue
08-18-2006, 05:38 PM
Heading to NYC on Wednesday?! Sweet...I'll be there on Thursday. Woot!

idolwatcher1
08-19-2006, 05:25 AM
Robby lost in 3 sets today and unfortunately, choked the match away. He lead 4*-2 in the third set and couldn't hold the ball in play from that point on. He even topped this when he missed an easy smash on gp at 4*-5. This loss is as bad as the one against Gremmelmayr and I think he'll think about this one for a very long time.
as upsetting as his loss was to Murray, I honestly don't think he will dwell on it that much. And I will have to disagree that it's as bad as the loss against Gremelmayr... because in that match, Robby became frustrated with the increasingly windy court conditions on Margaret Court Arena as he was trying to close out the match in straight sets... He was becoming known as someone quite capable of winning 5-set matches, but there he was, losing to an unknown qualifier in five sets! Robby was hoping to have a good run at the AO to follow up his semifinal run at the US Open by going much further than the 2nd round (although he would have faced eventual finalist, Baghdatis, next)... He had never lost a five set match after winning the first two sets, until that match... I think that's part of what made that match such a hard pill for him to swallow.

In this match, Robby was playing the (well-known) #2 player in the US Open series standings in the 3rd round. Robby wasn't even the favorite to win the match. Robby had set point in the 1st set, and he thought he won the set 6-4, but Murray challenged the last point of that set, and it so happened that the challenge showed Murray's ball was in, so they replayed the point and Robby wasn't able to convert the break after that, and he ended up losing that set in a tie-break. Robby comes back to win the 2nd set convincingly. In the 3rd set, he grabs the first break, but in the game that Murray broke back in, Robby's first serves were not making it in, and although he reached game point, he just didn't get the next point. Murray stayed with it, and despite being exhausted after finishing the match, he was still running side to side and anticipating Robby's shots well, and he was playing good defense! It wasn't like Robby was consistently missing shots... He would make a good shot (and the commentators would be like, "oh that was a fantastic shot by Robby"), but then it would be followed by, "oh that was a horrible shot". Although he reached many game points in the 3rd set, Robby just wasn't consistently keeping his focus to win those points. :sad:

Robby may actually be relieved that the US Open is his next tournament... I dunno, but early loss or not, I think he's ready for the challenge! ;)

idolwatcher1
08-23-2006, 04:50 AM
Heading to NYC on Wednesday?! Sweet...I'll be there on Thursday. Woot!
think you can hit with a pro? :D the event's on friday... Robby will be there along with Andy Roddick and Nadal :cool:
http://www.tennis.com/microsites/2006/grandslam/index.html

Pepper LaRue
08-23-2006, 03:03 PM
think you can hit with a pro? the event's on friday... Robby will be there along with Andy Roddick and Nadal
http://www.tennis.com/microsites/20...slam/index.html

Nice! If I didn't have a bum shoulder I'd totally go for it. My husband on the other hand is an amazing tennis player...I bet he could go toe to toe with these guys for at least a few strokes. LOL!

rege
08-25-2006, 06:16 AM
Anybody have thoughts about the draw... or are we trying to not jinx Robby this time? ;)

Deboogle!.
08-25-2006, 06:24 AM
I think Benneteau has the potential to be very tough and I don't think Robby should look any further than that lol

Deboogle!.
08-25-2006, 03:20 PM
This is from the Sun-Sentinel, he typically knows what he's talking about

"Robby Ginepri split with Francisco Montana of Miami, who coached him to the top 20 a year ago and helped him to a semifinal finish at the U.S. Open. Diego Ayala is coaching Ginepri. ..."

Lee
08-27-2006, 12:33 AM
Deb, :hug: thanks for the rep. I must spread more love around before I can rep you back.

Deboogle!.
08-27-2006, 02:44 AM
:) :hug: Not necessary at all. We're all here for you :D

idolwatcher1
08-31-2006, 05:33 AM
:dance: YAY for Robby surviving the first round!! The audience erupted in applause and cheering when he won on his first match point! It seemed like an exciting match... At this point, Robby should have a minimum of 790 points, so this win should keep him inside the Top 50... :yeah:

A few stats of the match:
Robby had 20 BPs!! :eek: only converted 6 times though... :scared:
Robby had a higher % of successful Net Approaches (27 of 41 = 66 %) than he did of First Serves (73 of 117 = 62 %)! :eek:
Robby had more winners than UEs, which is a positive sign, considering this hasn't always been the case for him this year...

Go Robby!! :)

rege
08-31-2006, 06:43 AM
It certainly wasn't the prettiest win, but it still counts!

I was at the gym when USA cut away from Roddick's match to show the end of Robby's... I was on the treadmill and managed to keep from falling off as I celebrated. :lol:

Grinder
08-31-2006, 08:46 PM
Good win for Robby, Benneteau is really scrappy and a tough first round opponent!

Fergie
09-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Robby d. Goldstein 6-2 6-2 6-4 :yeah:

bavaria100
09-02-2006, 11:34 AM
Congrats on making it into the third round Robby! :woohoo: It looks as if he's finally getting his game back together and that's soooo nice to see. His next opponent will be Tommy Haas and I think they even played against each other in the third round last year. Tommy is playing much better this season and I think that this will be a very tough one which is likely to go the distance. Anyways, good luck Robby! :bounce:

idolwatcher1
09-02-2006, 06:31 PM
:woohoo: I'm VERY proud of Robby, not only for making the 3rd round, but for how he played to get there!! He played even better in the 2nd round... :worship: this time Robby made more than twice as many winners (51) as unforced errors, and his successful Net Approaches (20 of 27 = 74 %) was yet again higher than his First Serve % (53 of 79 = 67 %)... Robby did a bit better with the break point conversion... this time, he reached 16 BPs and converted 6 of them... So overall, pretty good!!

Robby can be seen on the US Open highlights video for Day 5... :) AND also he's featured again this year on Off Court Spotlight (with Taylor Dent)!

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/9358/rgr21px7.jpg

Why is Taylor Dent touching Robby Ginepri?? Found out by watching the video (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/media/tv.html) :lol: ...

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/3792/tdrg3rd8.jpg

rege
09-03-2006, 06:40 AM
:woohoo:

Yes, Robby played MUCH better in R2... but he still got a little sloppy in the 3rd set. I'm glad to see that he didn't unravel after getting broken, but he needs to play strong from start to finish.

Hopefully, seeing Haas on the other side of the net will take him back to the way he played last year... good luck in R3, Robby!

Fee
09-04-2006, 07:15 PM
Way to go for the easy victory Robby... ;)

Fee
09-04-2006, 07:20 PM
uh oh, I may have spoken to soon. Dammit Robby...



He had that on his racquet and he fell apart for no damn reason. He should be embarassed by this loss and maybe this will turn on a switch inside his head that he needs to get some real help if he wants to continue being a tennis player. He is far too talented to be playing the way he has played this year. Yes, Tommy is an equally talented player, but Robby had all the chances in the 5th set and he just let them float right by.

Deboogle!.
09-04-2006, 08:03 PM
aw, I don't know if it is embarrassing! He almost came from 0-2 sets down, which is a feat in and of itself... it's too bad he blew those BPs at 4-3 on Tommy's serve in the 5th but he fought hard and competed well, which he had been having trouble doing earlier in the year so I think it's a step forward for him despite losing. :)

Pepper LaRue
09-04-2006, 08:26 PM
That was pretty painful to watch.

rege
09-04-2006, 08:42 PM
...maybe this will turn on a switch inside his head that he needs to get some real help if he wants to continue being a tennis player.

Hmm, now where have I heard that before? ;)

Yes, it was a heartbreaking loss... but, a couple of months ago, Robby would've imploded in the third set so I was happy to see him dramatically cut down his unforced errors and fight back so hard to force a 5th set.

tennispimpess
09-09-2006, 05:22 PM
Is it true Diego Ayala is his coach now? I mean they grew up together. Sounds like just a buddy to have around. I think it would be better if he got a real coach.
Then again, he played some of his best tennis this year at the US Open

Deboogle!.
09-09-2006, 07:57 PM
Yeah, I believe for the time being he's working with Diego Ayala. I agree, i think a real coach would do him some good.

Pepper LaRue
09-09-2006, 08:05 PM
It concerned me when he said in one of his US Open interviews that Diego was just like him. I think he needs a real coach who is going to push him and not a buddy who is as laid back as he is.

rege
09-10-2006, 08:33 AM
Below is a little bit of Robby's press conference after his match against Goldstein...

Sounds like Diego isn't a total push-over... also sounds like Robby might have felt Francisco was having him work on too many aspects of his game at one time.

It will be interesting to see how this is going to play out. Teams often fire their coaches when the team isn't playing well... it's not necessarily the coach's fault, but a coaching change is sometimes all it takes to turn a team around.


Q. Is Diego going to be a permanent thing?
ROBBY GINEPRI: I'm not sure. He's just temporary right now. We've been working pretty hard the last few weeks. I enjoy having someone that I've known for a while, and he's a good friend of mine. So he can push me, we can have good times as well.

Q. Do you see a possibility of being back in Francisco.
ROBBY GINEPRI: You know, I don't want to burn any bridges with anybody. He's done a lot for me. I'll always remember him. If we cross paths down the road, then so be it.

Q. Is there a different emphasis on what you want to do on the court with Diego than there is with Francisco ?
ROBBY GINEPRI: No, it's me finding my game again. It's me, you know, with the mental side. I have to be more positive out there, just kind of go with the flow, simplify things. That's what works for me. I don't want to get too carried away and listen to, you know, 20 different things to be working on. When I'm playing my best, I'm just out there and trusting my instincts.

Pepper LaRue
09-10-2006, 05:20 PM
Change is always for the better. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/thumbsup.gif I hope he can take some positives from this US Open run and keep improving.

Veruka
09-11-2006, 02:15 AM
Is it true Diego Ayala is his coach now? I mean they grew up together. Sounds like just a buddy to have around. I think it would be better if he got a real coach.
Then again, he played some of his best tennis this year at the US Open

I think he's on the right track -- he just needs one more ingredient. It seems to work for Mardy Fish to have Todd Martin as a seasoned coach, and someone else to travel with him. It really seems to be working for Andy Roddick to have Jimmy Connors has a seasoned coach and his brother as a travelling coach. Sounds like Diego would work well as a travelling coach ... not Robby just needs to find someone more seasoned to the ATP than Jerry Baskin to be his seasoned coach.

idolwatcher1
09-11-2006, 06:17 AM
We should keep in mind that Robby's best results this year came when he had no coach at all, so even if Diego does close to nothing, we can't assume that's a bad thing just yet... :lol:

I think Robby feels that his technique and shot-making ability is quite proficient, but that his biggest weakness is how he deals with the mental aspect of the game... constructing points in order to win them and staying positive within himself so that he is relaxed and focused enough to play his best.

I've long had the feeling that Francisco was not on the same page as Robby and was perhaps unintentionally overwhelming him with too many things to focus on (to the detriment of the big picture)... so that when he was out there playing a match, he was thinking about too many things at once. In tennis, you only have so much time to react... every reaction requires a quick decision, so you can't be overwhelmed out there.

It's long been stated that "your first instincts are usually right", but it sounds to me like Robby was perhaps taken out of that mode and was overthinking/overanalyzing what he should do, and making too many mistakes (unforced errors) as a result...

idolwatcher1
09-11-2006, 06:24 AM
I think he's on the right track -- he just needs one more ingredient. It seems to work for Mardy Fish to have Todd Martin as a seasoned coach, and someone else to travel with him. It really seems to be working for Andy Roddick to have Jimmy Connors has a seasoned coach and his brother as a travelling coach. Sounds like Diego would work well as a travelling coach ... not Robby just needs to find someone more seasoned to the ATP than Jerry Baskin to be his seasoned coach.
:wavey: Hi Veruka, welcome to the Robby forum! I remember thinking that if Brad Gilbert were looking to coach someone it should be Robby... but then about that time, he decided to coach Andy Murray, who had already grabbed a title this year and was on his way up... I think he would have been a nice seasoned coach for Robby...

idolwatcher1
09-11-2006, 06:58 AM
In his press conference, Robby stated that he thinks he is playing just as good, if not better, than he had this time last year... so just for the heck of it, I decided to post Robby's Haas 2005 match stats and compare them to this year's... :p

Year ...........................................*2005*. ...................*2006*
1st Serve %............................- 92 of 163 = 56 %...- 95 of 154 = 62 %
Aces.......................................-20.......................- 15
Double Faults..........................- 4........................- 3
Unforced Errors.......................- 56......................- 42
Winning % on 1st Serve...........- 65 of 92 = 71 %....- 72 of 95 = 76 %
Winning % on 2nd Serve.......... - 37 of 75 = 49 %...- 32 of 59 = 54 %
Winners (Including Service)......- 65......................- 55
Receiving Points Won...............- 55 of 157 = 35 %...- 53 of 174 = 30 %
Break Point Conversions............- 6 of 13 = 46 %.....- 4 of 11 = 36 %
Net Approaches.......................- 13 of 31 = 42 %....- 40 of 59 = 68 %
Total Points Won......................- 157....................- 157
Fastest Serve..........................- 127 MPH..............- 125 MPH
Average 1st Serve Speed..........- 111 MPH.............- 111 MPH
Average 2nd Serve Speed.........- 91 MPH...............- 89 MPH

These stats would appear to support Robby's statement... he dramatically improved his Net Approaches at this year's US Open compared to last year's... he had a +9 winners-UEs difference in 2005, and had a +13 winners-UEs difference... everything else is about the same :)

Veruka
09-11-2006, 03:31 PM
:wavey: Hi Veruka, welcome to the Robby forum! I remember thinking that if Brad Gilbert were looking to coach someone it should be Robby... but then about that time, he decided to coach Andy Murray, who had already grabbed a title this year and was on his way up... I think he would have been a nice seasoned coach for Robby...

Thanks for the welcome idolwatcher! It's good to be here. I have to say, I've thought about the possibility of a Gilbert / Ginepri matchup too. Chalk me up as one who is bothered by the thought of Gilbert coaching a non-American.

That said, I really have to wonder exactly what led to the split between Gilbert and Roddick, and whether or not that would come in to play if he were to try to coach one of the other guys in that clique. Given the rivalry between Gilbert and Roddick, I think there's no question that split was more than a "it's time for us to move on" kind of thing. While both have pretty much avoided airing it out in public, you've got to figure that Roddick has been more vocal about his thoughts on Brad privately. Would those sentiments cancel out any of the confidence boosting measures that someone like Gilbert could have on Robby?

In my perfect dream world ... they say that Darren Cahill guy is available now. :) I think it's more likely that he'll give up coaching with Andre in retirement. But if he were to make the choice to stay involved with tennis, given the core similarities between Andre's game and Robby's game, I think Cahill could do GREAT things with Robby's game.

Deboogle!.
09-11-2006, 03:45 PM
I have to say, I've thought about the possibility of a Gilbert / Ginepri matchup too. Chalk me up as one who is bothered by the thought of Gilbert coaching a non-American. I see what you mean.... but I am one who thinks Brad was incredibly overrated with Andy. We are now seeing that some of the things that we know Brad put into Andy's game - standing far back on the 2nd serve return, implementing the slice BH a lot - are some of the very things that have caused him loads of problems over the past year. I don't think we'll ever know what happened between the two of them, I think it was many different things from money to personality, etc. I know there is a lot of sentiment from Andy's side that Brad wasn't constant enough for him - he really needs someone to push him hard and Brad wasn't there enough to do that (whether that is true, again, we have no way to know) - but we can plainly see that Andy did not start getting into really good physical condition until he fired Brad and hired Dean - someone who really got him going in the fitness department. I doubt that's all coincidental.

So, for those reasons and others, I have real reservations about Brad working with Robby. I think Brad's the right coach - for the right player. I think for a guy like Andre, he was great. Because Andre had the tools, and he had Gil Reyes, so Brad could come in and just polish. For a guy like Andy who really needed some of the fundamentals, Brad swooped in, gave him some quick fixes that helped over the short-term, but really proved to be a hindrance for him a couple years down the road.

I agree with you that a guy more like Darren Cahill might be good for him. Or even a guy like Goldfine or Annacone, real hard workers who are supportive and push their players hard. As we've seen recently, good coaching can come from the most surprising and unexpected places, so hopefully Robby finds someone who will work out well for him, even if it might seem to us as an odd choice at the outset. The indoor season is coming and Robby's game is suited well for that, so hopefully he can post some good results!!

Veruka
09-11-2006, 03:59 PM
Re: Gilbert -- I think the biggest problem with him as a coach is that he cannot handle not being in the spotlight. In many ways, I think he desires to overshadow the player he's coaching, rather than to support him. If you look at some of the very best coaches in tennis - they aren't just satisfied in the shadows, they desire to be there. You only heard about coaches like Tim Gullickson, Darren Cahill, and Brian Barker when the players working with them put the spotlight on them. They know they're job is to make a player look good - not to make themselves look good. With an individual sport like tennis, the ego of a player is undoubtedly going to come into play. And it's going to do nothing but damage that player if he feels he's competing with his own coach for accolades.

The most important thing that Robby needs? A coach that will not just recognize that his not defending his points at the Open this year will hurt his ranking, but will remind him repeatedly that his lack of points early in this season will make it that much easier for him to gain a lot of points early on next year!

Deboogle!.
09-11-2006, 09:31 PM
Yep, I agree. But I also think that even substantively, I think Brad is overrated in some ways ;)

Hopefully Robby can find that right person and move forward :)

idolwatcher1
09-12-2006, 12:59 AM
Thanks for the welcome idolwatcher! It's good to be here. I have to say, I've thought about the possibility of a Gilbert / Ginepri matchup too. Chalk me up as one who is bothered by the thought of Gilbert coaching a non-American.

That said, I really have to wonder exactly what led to the split between Gilbert and Roddick, and whether or not that would come in to play if he were to try to coach one of the other guys in that clique. Given the rivalry between Gilbert and Roddick, I think there's no question that split was more than a "it's time for us to move on" kind of thing. While both have pretty much avoided airing it out in public, you've got to figure that Roddick has been more vocal about his thoughts on Brad privately. Would those sentiments cancel out any of the confidence boosting measures that someone like Gilbert could have on Robby?

In my perfect dream world ... they say that Darren Cahill guy is available now. :) I think it's more likely that he'll give up coaching with Andre in retirement. But if he were to make the choice to stay involved with tennis, given the core similarities between Andre's game and Robby's game, I think Cahill could do GREAT things with Robby's game.
The thought of Gilbert coaching Robby entered my head when I read the Tennis magazine article written by him called, "Learning from Robby Ginepri." I liked the attention he gave to Robby's game and his insight. BUT... after reading what you said, and thinking more about it, it probably IS best that Gilbert stay away from Robby.

First of all, in the Cincy match, Murray didn't challenge the line call when Robby thought he won the first set 6-4... that is, until he looked up at Gilbert and he was signalling him to challenge the call... Who's playing the match anyway?? Gilbert or Murray??? And to think that Robby could've dismissed Murray in straight sets (6-4,6-2) if Gilbert hadn't involved himself in the match... :(

Well, anyway, knowing the Gilbert/Roddick history, you're absolutely right... it would be awkward (for all) if he suddenly was Robby's coach. Robby may even know things about their history that we don't know, so it's possible that he wouldn't even consider having Gilbert coach him for a number of different reasons.

There is a better coach out there for Robby, but hopefully, Robby can do well in his upcoming tournaments whatever his situation may be! Let's go Robby!! :dance:

Deboogle!.
09-12-2006, 04:45 AM
Well, anyway, knowing the Gilbert/Roddick history, you're absolutely right... it would be awkward (for all) if he suddenly was Robby's coach. Robby may even know things about their history that we don't know, so it's possible that he wouldn't even consider having Gilbert coach him for a number of different reasons. I honestly don't think that'd be relevant at all. If Robby felt that Brad was the right coach for him and everything else worked out (money, scheduling, money, money, money.... Brad:o), i think the deal would be done. I don't think the fact that Andy and Brad parted on less than happy terms would be relevant at all :shrug:

idolwatcher1
09-12-2006, 04:55 AM
if Robby heard bad things about Brad FROM Andy, and Robby agreed that those things weren't cool, then he probably wouldn't even consider having Brad as one of his coaches... that's basically what I was getting at...

Deboogle!.
09-12-2006, 05:11 AM
ah i see. well, maybe.

I think Robby can do an awful lot better than Brad anyway :)