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whom do you fear the most?

federerer
01-22-2004, 12:38 AM
roddick? No. fed can return his serve as well as anyone.
ferrero? maybe. on clay, definitely.

but the two I fear are hewitt and nalbandian. They just seem to have fed's number.

WyverN
01-22-2004, 01:21 AM
The match I would really not feel confident of Federer winning would be against Agassi in the final

Dirk
01-22-2004, 05:28 AM
I don't think Roger fears anyone. He loses to hewitt when he mentally letsdown and as long as he mixes it up with David he has a great shot to beat him all the time. Just a matter of Roger being consistent aas a competitor. Wyvern I thought you didn't think Andre would win another slam?

WyverN
01-22-2004, 06:03 AM
Thats correct. I think he will get knocked out before the final.

Even if it is a Federer v Agassi final I would tip Federer but I wouldn't be as confident. Against Roddick and even Nalbandian would be far more confident of a Federer victory.

Anyway Federer d Morrison 6-2, 6-3, 6-4
Anyone see the match?
How was Fed playing?

Dirk
01-22-2004, 06:32 AM
I saw parts of it and both played well. Both had a lot of winners. Jeff ran down tons of balls and was serving great. He out served Roger and never double faulted. Roger was just on and his net play was great like his 1st match. Todd Reid is going to wish he had lost that match today after NINJAAAAAAAAAAAA is through with him. :crazy:

faboozadoo15
01-22-2004, 08:53 PM
I saw parts of it and both played well. Both had a lot of winners. Jeff ran down tons of balls and was serving great. He out served Roger and never double faulted. Roger was just on and his net play was great like his 1st match. Todd Reid is going to wish he had lost that match today after NINJAAAAAAAAAAAA is through with him. :crazy:
well i wouldn't go as far as to say that, :lol: but roger should handle him quite easily.
jeff played the match of his life to lose... i can't believe his #s and going down so easily, and it never looked like roger was pressed...

anyway, hewitt will be tough... and nalbandian is playing SOOO well (granted his opponents have nearly haded him these matches-- check the stats) ... so im thinking of these 2 possible matches first. semis will be tough too if he gets that far. i know everyone wants to see a federer/agassi final and so do i, but looking ahead is never a good thing.

ytben
01-23-2004, 10:37 PM
True faboo, we shouldn't look too far ahead. I think David will be the biggest challenge too. He has been playing so well so far. His game matches up well against Rogi's , and that mental factor that he still posess over Rogi. If he can defeat David again, he will surely gain tons of confidence like when he defeat Andre in TMC RR and that will help him on his next rounds.

federerer
01-24-2004, 12:46 AM
not to get ahead of ourselves BUT
if roger beats hewitt and nalbandian and agassi,
all without a coach,
then he will have established himself as THE player to beat for the forseeable future. I mean, in my opinion the only thing holding roger back right now is the mental thing. If he beats the three most mentally strong players, who (besides roddick, perhaps) can challenge him? I hope safin reemerges as a top player again (he is quite talented).

oops, I just got WAY ahead of myself :)

ytben
01-24-2004, 12:54 AM
lol, yes you did :D

Nalbandian chokes too though sometimes so I don't see him as one of the strongest mentally.

rogicomel
01-27-2004, 01:33 AM
A real tennis master should not fear anyone and Rogi himself told that after TMC, he's not afraid of playing anyone (i.e Nalby, Agassi). He should have been more confident to face them now, so bring em on!!!!

faboozadoo15
01-27-2004, 01:51 AM
damn right! go rogi!

ytben
01-27-2004, 03:33 AM
yeah, go Rogi!!!! You can do it!

yanchr
01-27-2004, 07:26 AM
I don't fear anyone. Neither does Roger, I think. Nalby should fear that Roger doesn't fear him anymore.

rogicomel
01-31-2004, 03:11 AM
I guess it's Rogi whom everone fears now!

Dirk
01-31-2004, 04:43 AM
Marat :scared:

ytben
01-31-2004, 04:53 AM
yeah, if Maratski plays up to his capability, Rogi will need to summon all his talent to contend with him. I am a bit worry since Rogi's BH still not working so great. Maratski will be targeting it I am sure.

lsy
01-31-2004, 05:18 AM
Marat :scared:

haha...Dirk, funny that some in this forum are probably labelling you as one of the Rogi's fan who think he's unbeatable when he's at his best, and here you are shaking with fear even Rogi had been playing well so far... :haha: :haha:

I hope they come in and see you here now... :haha:

But yes I had been worrying since I saw Safin play vs Andre that day, what a performance :bowdown: though I still have the belief that hopefully Rogi can pull off a win in final. I don't think I'll be too upset if he doesn't since he had done so much here unless he brings no game to the final.

Go Rogi!!!

ytben
01-31-2004, 07:15 AM
Agree lsy, what a performance :worship: :D
Before watching the match, I thought Agassi would be the harder opponent for Rogi. After watching it, I don't think so anymore :scared:.

Dirk
01-31-2004, 07:16 AM
What's this BS about his BH not working? It works great. His BH is almost perfect now. Sure in the early stages its not as good as it is later on in the match but you know Saffy will be making errors on his BH side too. One Hander is the toughest shot to pull off so yes it will take more time to get it going. OH and for the record if Roger does play his best Saffy will blow up for sure. Unlike Simpleton baseline games of Andy and Andre Roger will put layer upon layer of game on safin and make his ass think think think, which Saffy doesn't like do to. This match will be tough but Safin will have a much harder time staying together than Roger. Did anyone favor Roger in his Hamburg final? I know this site probably wasn't up at the time. I sure did. Marat was full of confidence there too and look what happened. I do think Saffy's serve will bother Roger but Roger should adjust to it as the match goes on. Roger will need to win more of his 2nd serve points though.

ytben
01-31-2004, 07:52 AM
Sorry maybe I should be more clear. In his match against Juanqui, his BH did hold up well in rallies, just not many winners from that side. His BH found the net most of the time he tried to be more agressive.

I haven't watched that Hamburg final. Hopes we will have similar end result tomorrow :D

WyverN
01-31-2004, 01:19 PM
Rogers hasnt been his masters absolute best which gives marat a chance. Although I am almost certain that with the pressure of #1 gone Federer will raise his level to win.

I would not feel this confident against Agassi but since Federer can neutralise big serves I have full faith in him.

Only concern is that he has not played a big server in a while.....

yanchr
01-31-2004, 04:48 PM
Only concern is that he has not played a big server in a while.....

So give him one set to adjust to it and to get warmed up, but not any more :)

Shy
01-31-2004, 09:47 PM
You know that I have a little feeling that Roger is going to lose. Actually, I had it all weeks and during the master cup, and weirdly he won all his matches.

Iker1
02-01-2004, 04:46 AM
I think David Nal.

asotgod
02-01-2004, 04:49 AM
No need to fear anyone. It's infact proper to fear Roger himself as he most times decides his match. Good now, however, to see that he is becoming more consistent. Congrats to him.

warriorgj
02-26-2004, 01:02 AM
Tim Henman.

cheliste
02-27-2004, 05:17 AM
David Nalbadian. If I see a draw where Rogi and David are on the same quarter, I see flashes of their encounters prior to Master's Cup. Believe me, it's not because of lack of faith in Roger, but mainly because my brains keeps on tapping on the record of "dark days" when he was struggling against Nalabandian. And hooray now, Roger fears him not.

Jazzy
02-27-2004, 09:33 AM
AGREE warriorgl and welcome here :wavey:

Jazzy
02-27-2004, 09:33 AM
o, & lets not 4get David Nalby!

Fedex
02-28-2004, 06:05 AM
I would say Tim Henman. I certainly hope Roger dosnt fear him though, or else he'll never get over his problems with tim. I hope they dont meet in Dubai or in the next 2 TMS Events, just so Roger can win at least one of them. I think he has problems with players that aremore versitle, alot like himself, but he still shouldent lose this much. I do hope they meet before Wimbledon, though so Roger can figure him out. This may be the perfect time for a coach, so he can figure out Henman. I do hope fo a Roger vs. Tim final at Wimbledon, but i want Roger to win in 4. David still poses alot of problems for Fed. He's such a force from the baseline (total opposite of Tim), so he's still a BIG threat. Potato is no longer a threat to Roger. He has his game figured out (not much to figure out) so i expect Roger to consistantly beat him, and thrashing him on grass as well would be sweet, to show him who is the true grass court master!!

ytben
02-28-2004, 08:09 AM
I would say Henman at this moment. I also hope they will meet before Wimbly and Rogi win of course. As asotgod pointed out, Rogi's bogeyman always finds the way to his draw. So it will give me a piece of mind before Wimbly if he has conquered his last bogeyman.

yanchr
02-28-2004, 11:10 AM
Yeah...weird...Roger's bogeymen always manage to stand in his way..and even a bunch of them. So I won't be surprised if Tim will 'appear' so in Wimby. The best place to meet Tim again and soon is in Dubai, which is a relatively small event. Hope then with full health Roger can figure out his game and beat him for the 1st time. I don't like the idea that he should try to do that in Wimby. That's too risky...Tim is the last mountain Roger is bound to conquer if he is to stay in the #1 position for as long as he can.

Dirk
02-28-2004, 01:39 PM
Oh please tim is not that great. I am not worried about him at all. If they played at Wimbly with Roger healthy I wouldn't worry. Roger can outplay him and will eventually get him. This isn't Andre or Pete were are talking about here..........ITS TIM HENMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE. Roger lost because he wasn't patient and we all know he is. Must have been his pain that is the reason why he was so impatient.

federerer
03-04-2004, 06:32 AM
Now that roger is playing great tennis consistently and really turned the corner I don't fear anyone at all. There's a lot of talk about how roger gets screwed in every draw, but he's the number one player in the world, so my feeling is that he should take on and beat all players. Just like boxer's you know? besides, the psychological advantage of knowing you can handle any player on any given day is just priceless. The ultimate will be if he takes down henman in wimbly. True, rogi would be the prohibitive favorite, but henman is his last nemesis.

LCeh
04-07-2004, 09:57 PM
I don't know, but I have this weird feeling that Andy will become a very good all-court player in the next few years. It's not that I don't like Andy, but potentially he seems to be a very dangerous player to Roger and many others once he improves his game. He is already working hard on his backhand, and it's getting better; I am sure he will be working on his volley, and after that would be his return game. With his big serve, I am quite worried that Roddick will become a huge obstacle for Roger.

vene
04-07-2004, 10:13 PM
I don't know, but I have this weird feeling that Andy will become a very good all-court player in the next few years. It's not that I don't like Andy, but potentially he seems to be a very dangerous player to Roger and many others once he improves his game. He is already working hard on his backhand, and it's getting better; I am sure he will be working on his volley, and after that would be his return game. With his big serve, I am quite worried that Roddick will become a huge obstacle for Roger.

Good points. Do you think Rogi needs to improve his serve?

LCeh
04-07-2004, 11:06 PM
Neh, his serve is very efficient. I think he can improve on his backhand (more power, more accurate), and his serve and volley game, which I am not too worried about, cause he knows that his S&V needs improvement, and surely will work on that.

Blaze
04-07-2004, 11:30 PM
The funny thing is that when Andy or anyone else is improving their games to the extend that it can threaten Rogi, I sure he won't be the same player as he is today but rather will have improve also :)

LCeh
04-07-2004, 11:38 PM
I hope so Blaze, but I am not sure what else Roger can improve other than backhand and S&V... ;)

Blaze
04-08-2004, 12:36 AM
He need to work on starting games strongly and stop making so many errors in the beginning :eek:

yanchr
04-08-2004, 06:24 AM
I don't know, but I have this weird feeling that Andy will become a very good all-court player in the next few years. It's not that I don't like Andy, but potentially he seems to be a very dangerous player to Roger and many others once he improves his game. He is already working hard on his backhand, and it's getting better; I am sure he will be working on his volley, and after that would be his return game. With his big serve, I am quite worried that Roddick will become a huge obstacle for Roger.
Yeah so your feeling was weird ;)

Andy is and will be a dangerous opponent for Roger and surely will improve his overall game. But I think it's very difficult that Andy will raise his game to the level well matched with Roger, I mean, to become an all-court and versitile player like Roger. For every tennis player, there is not very big room if not to say little to improve their techniques, which IMO are somewhat fixed at a younger age, same with Roger and Andy. We can't expect Roger to change his elegant style just as well as Andy is also not expected to raise his game to another totally new and high level. Maybe Andy has more room for improvement than Roger, but it's also limited. And of course Roger won't remain forever what he is now to wait for Andy to catch on him without doing anything.

Maybe that they haven't met each other yet this year and you have only watched them play separately stands one of the reasons of that feeling. So let's see what will happen when they meet each other this year for the first time.

yanchr
04-08-2004, 06:40 AM
I hope so Blaze, but I am not sure what else Roger can improve other than backhand and S&V... ;)
To tell the truth I'm very much worried about his s&v these days. Don't know if it is the case that he has lost some touch for it owing to his rarer use in the match. He surely needs to step up on it considerably.

If Roger keeps improve his bh and s&v to level the power and efficiency of his fh, then I think others should indeed give a serious second thought to their tennis professional career if it is still meaningful to continue. So let's have some mercy ;)

Dirk
04-08-2004, 02:00 PM
I'm not worried about his S&V game. Roger is working on it and doesn't use it as much since he is working on baseline game so much recently.

WyveN
04-10-2004, 11:16 PM
but he needs S&V for Wimbledon

Dirk
04-10-2004, 11:38 PM
Yep and if you read his interviews from Wells in one of them he mentions that as long as he can serve and volley very well at Wimbly that is all he cares about at the moment. He will increase its useage during the rest of the year as he gets better and better at it. He said he likes to mix it up as to have a longer career and not tire himself out to death doing Serve and Volley all the time. No need to worry Wyven Ninja has his destiny under control. http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif

Fedex
04-12-2004, 04:03 AM
I think Roger's Serve & Volley is fine. At his age its one of the best i've seen. He might not S&V like Henman, but he's also much younger. That style takes a while to fully develop as i very well no myself.(I'm a natural baseliner, but i've really improved my S&V so much, that i use it regularly in a match) His BH can be inconsistant at times though. (ex. Agassi-Federer Indian Wells)

Fedex
04-12-2004, 04:10 AM
He said he likes to mix it up as to have a longer career and not tire himself out to death doing Serve and Volley all the time. No need to worry Wyven Ninja has his destiny under control. http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif
Actually i think staying at the baseline is more tiring the Serve & Volleying, because the points are much longer. At least it is for me ;)

Dirk
04-12-2004, 04:51 AM
Roger is mastering his grand game more and more as time goes on. No need to worry folks.