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¿Nadal Chances? and photos

Raul-Lopez
01-20-2004, 08:10 PM
Can actually Rafael Nadal beat Hewitt in the third round?

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sigmagirl91
01-20-2004, 09:19 PM
I usually don't pay attention to 17-year-olds, but dayum, he got some muscles. Go Rafael!!!!!

Chloe le Bopper
01-21-2004, 12:14 AM
Both Hewitt and Nadal could struggle in their next matches... Nadal lost to Ascione just a couple weeks ago, and my liking of Kucera allows me to believe he can give Hewitt a bit of a match.

If this match occurs, I'm sure that Hewitt would win, causing me to revolt and throw things at my TV. Oh, wait. I wouldn't be on my TV. Saves clean up, at least.

MisterQ
01-21-2004, 12:25 AM
I voted yes out of blind faith. In truth I have hardly seen the kid play. I'm very much looking forward to it though! (and if ESPN doesn't show some of it I will be hurling things at the TV too, Rebecca).

Chloe le Bopper
01-21-2004, 12:32 AM
I voted yes out of blind faith. In truth I have hardly seen the kid play. I'm very much looking forward to it though! (and if ESPN doesn't show some of it I will be hurling things at the TV too, Rebecca).
I'm sure that they'll work some of it in between the bagels that Venus is dishing out, recaps of what Andre and Andy are doing on the practice court, and Brad listening to himself talk.

Scotso
01-21-2004, 01:14 AM
I've seen enough of him to know that he could definitely beat Lleyton if he stays aggressive... but I think that Lleyton is going to go far in this event.

mrpenguin
01-22-2004, 11:33 AM
hewitt is jinxed 4ever in this one.

nabaldian has nothing to loose, so this is going to be
war!!!

WyverN
01-22-2004, 12:15 PM
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If this match occurs, I'm sure that Hewitt would win, causing me to revolt and throw things at my TV. Oh, wait. I wouldn't be on my TV. Saves clean up, at least.

Don't worry, it will be Leo throwing things at the tv.

Nadal certainly has "it", should be a star within a few years if he avoids injury.

Has he actually played a big match though? he may be overwhelmed especially in the first set.

sigmagirl91
01-22-2004, 12:19 PM
Don't worry, it will be Leo throwing things at the tv.

Nadal certainly has "it", should be a star within a few years if he avoids injury.

Has he actually played a big match though? he may be overwhelmed especially in the first set.


damn, mrp, spell nalbi's name right, pleeeeeeeeeeease. It's worse than Dah-veed. It's like fingernails scraping a chalkboard.....

And, Wy, I think that Nadal has a chance. He may just go for broke, like Kucera did. Too bad Kucera couldn't keep it going.

fleemke²
01-22-2004, 01:26 PM
Kick it Nadal :bounce: :worship:

Fedex
01-22-2004, 01:37 PM
Nadal can certainly beat him!!! But even if Lleyton gets by Nadal, Roger will be waiting to slaughter him in the next round ;)

mrpenguin
01-22-2004, 01:40 PM
the melbourne heat will get the best from hewitt ,
it always did!

Yashirobai
01-22-2004, 04:32 PM
I think Nadal will lose, but if he plays a great match he could be a huge surprise...

RealityRyan
01-22-2004, 07:10 PM
Nadal can certainly beat him!!! But even if Lleyton gets by Nadal, Roger will be waiting to slaughter him in the next round ;)


haha agreed. Niether one of those guys have the firepower to beat Fed. So it's pointless who wins this match...it's like who gets to win so they can be the loser... :p

Chloe le Bopper
01-22-2004, 09:16 PM
haha agreed. Niether one of those guys have the firepower to beat Fed. So it's pointless who wins this match...it's like who gets to win so they can be the loser... :p
uh, yes, clearly hewitt lacks the firepower to beat Fed. :rolleyes:

Erm, anyways..

Has he actually played a big match though? he may be overwhelmed especially in the first set.

I'd say that his biggest matches so far have been Paradorn in the third round of Wimbledon, and Hrbaty in the finals of Auckland. He played Moya in the semifinals somewhere too. Anyways, he lost all three of those, but I wouldn't read too much into that.

This Hewitt match is one that he's been looking forward to since the draw came out. There is an article on his fan site where he stated that he wanted Hewitt on Rod Laver.

RealityRyan
01-22-2004, 09:44 PM
uh, yes, clearly hewitt lacks the firepower to beat Fed. :rolleyes:

Erm, anyways..



I'd say that his biggest matches so far have been Paradorn in the third round of Wimbledon, and Hrbaty in the finals of Auckland. He played Moya in the semifinals somewhere too. Anyways, he lost all three of those, but I wouldn't read too much into that.

This Hewitt match is one that he's been looking forward to since the draw came out. There is an article on his fan site where he stated that he wanted Hewitt on Rod Laver.

Queen I love you, you are the best!! I can never get anything by you!! ::Hug::

RealityRyan
01-22-2004, 09:45 PM
uh, yes, clearly hewitt lacks the firepower to beat Fed. :rolleyes:

Erm, anyways..



I'd say that his biggest matches so far have been Paradorn in the third round of Wimbledon, and Hrbaty in the finals of Auckland. He played Moya in the semifinals somewhere too. Anyways, he lost all three of those, but I wouldn't read too much into that.

This Hewitt match is one that he's been looking forward to since the draw came out. There is an article on his fan site where he stated that he wanted Hewitt on Rod Laver.

maybe the Hewitt of like 2yrs(1 1/2) ago...not now

Chloe le Bopper
01-22-2004, 10:15 PM
maybe the Hewitt of like 2yrs(1 1/2) ago...not now
If by 1-2 years ago, you mean 4-5 months, then yes.

RealityRyan
01-23-2004, 12:17 AM
If by 1-2 years ago, you mean 4-5 months, then yes.

no negro, I mean 1 or a alitte more years ago...like when he was number 1 and kicking ass. Last year he sucked, like he blew. This year, not to much has improved. Ever since he lost his coach he game has gone down the tubes. Even if he is playing like 20% better he will get smacked down like a ball that wasn't lobbed high enough by Fed.

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 01:48 AM
Negro?

CmonAussie
01-23-2004, 02:48 AM
RealityRyan....... don't know what your problem is but you come across as a bit of a Racist!
#Or "Wanker" as we say in Aus.

Anyway it's clear that Hewitt is almost getting back to the form he had 2^years ago>>>
for the Record Lleyton has won his last 13 matches
@_@ the last time Llegs lost was to Ferrero at USO.
I expect Nadal will put up a good fight & maybe take a set or even give a 5-set effort, but in the end we are looking at a Hewitt/Federer 4thRD. The winner of that is going to come close to winning the whole schabang!

FanOfHewitt
01-23-2004, 03:02 AM
I've never seen Nadal play before, only snippets here and there during a few tournament updates. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone has been ooohing and aaaahhhing about. There's definitely been a lot of hype on the young kid.

As for Reality Ryan's comments... Did you happen to catch the last encounter between Hewitt and Federer? Or didn't your purview of reality stretch that far?

Scotso
01-23-2004, 03:12 AM
I *REALLY* hope they show this match on TV.

undomiele
01-23-2004, 03:13 AM
Itll be tough I think. Ive never seen Nadal play before but it seems like hes been playing really well. I hope he'll be able to cope with the aussie crowd....

Flora3892
01-23-2004, 03:29 AM
I've never seen Nadal play either (I've been waiting for coverage... but espn would never... :mad: ) they HAVE to show this next one! even the commentators have been looking forward to it! Plus from what i've heard, it seems like they play the same kind of game... although the muscles on nadal give me the impression that he might have more powerful groundstrokes... (that's a LOT of muscles on a 17 year old!!! :eek: )but i still think hewitt will prevail! and hopefully quickly!!

WyverN
01-23-2004, 03:45 AM
Federer and Hewitt have never met in a grand slam and thats the one where players are usually at peak/most motivated.
So all the previous matches are almost out the window

WyverN
01-23-2004, 03:47 AM
People point to Davis Cup as a meaningful match but realistically it was Federer's 9th-13th set in that match in 3 days.
Hewitt's 4th-8th

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 03:56 AM
The last couple points are good. I'd like to see Federer beat Hewitt. I'd prefer to see him beat Nadal, though ;)

Flora - Nadal's groundstrokes have far more pace than Hewitt's, yes. As much as Ferrero's, if not more.

FanOfHewitt
01-23-2004, 04:00 AM
Federer and Hewitt have never met in a grand slam and thats the one where players are usually at peak/most motivated.
So all the previous matches are almost out the window

After all the cows and other prizes he recieved together with his homeland's affection, I doubt Federer could have been more motivated or determined to win any event than what he was at the Davis Cup. Just listen to him speak recently. Does he speak of grand slams or Davis Cup?

If all their previous matches go out the window it is because Federer can produce anything on any given day. I don't think motivation has anything to do with it.

FanOfHewitt
01-23-2004, 04:02 AM
People point to Davis Cup as a meaningful match but realistically it was Federer's 9th-13th set in that match in 3 days.
Hewitt's 4th-8th

Note that the 5 setter Federer played was in doubles, hardly as debilitating as a 5 setter in singles. But its a valid point nonetheless. The doubles match took something out of him.

Lisbeth
01-23-2004, 04:03 AM
He certainly could but I don't think Nadal's the favourite just yet. In a couple of years I suspect Nadal will be the favourite in most of his matches but this is the kind of forum where experience really counts. It will definitely not be an easy match.

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 04:07 AM
Note that the 5 setter Federer played was in doubles, hardly as debilitating as a 5 setter in singles. But its a valid point nonetheless. The doubles match took something out of him.
That, and with the loss in doubles, Fed knew that was the tie.

FanOfHewitt
01-23-2004, 04:12 AM
That, and with the loss in doubles, Fed knew that was the tie.

He certainly didn't come out and play the first 4 sets like "that was the tie".

I don't think he would have just bent over agasint someone like Hewitt. I'm sure he was burning to beat him. Look at him urge himself on during the 3rd or 4th set if you disagree. i've never seen him so agressive.

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 04:14 AM
He certainly didn't come out and play the first 4 sets like "that was the tie".

I don't think he would have just bent over agasint someone like Hewitt. I'm sure he was burning to beat him. Look at him urge himself on during the 3rd or 4th set if you disagree. i've never seen him so agressive.
I don't think that I said he bent over like "that was the tie", so I really have nothing else to say here.

Responding to responses to things I never said is tedious, you see ;)

FanOfHewitt
01-23-2004, 04:22 AM
I don't think that I said he bent over like "that was the tie", so I really have nothing else to say here.

Responding to responses to things I never said is tedious, you see ;)

Sorry to put words in your mouth.. what did you mean? That Federer would not have been up to it mentally seeing that the tie was over? I don't understand..

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 07:48 AM
Sorry to put words in your mouth.. what did you mean? That Federer would not have been up to it mentally seeing that the tie was over? I don't understand..
I was a little more curt than I could have been.. no big deal.

What I meant was that when push came to shove, the fact that the Swiss had little chance of winning the next rubber, may have played in the back of his head. So as opposed to going into the fourth and fifth setting knowing that this is IT, he went in knowing it likely was meaningless.

This is nothing but speculation, and in no way does it question Hewitt's fighting abilities.

mrpenguin
01-23-2004, 10:20 AM
Why is everyone secretly hoping that Nadal thrashes Hewitt?

Because Federer will have an easier draw maybe?

Nadal vs Hewitt 7.30pm local aus time

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 10:22 AM
Why is everyone secretly hoping that Nadal thrashes Hewitt?

Because Federer will have an easier draw maybe?

Nadal vs Hewitt 7.30pm local aus time
Or because some of us like Nadal. A ridiculous suggestoin, I know, but entirely possible.

No matter what happens tomorrow, the tournament isn't entire over for Nadal. Him and Robredo are still alive in doubles :p

WyverN
01-23-2004, 10:30 AM
He certainly didn't come out and play the first 4 sets like "that was the tie".

I don't think he would have just bent over agasint someone like Hewitt. I'm sure he was burning to beat him. Look at him urge himself on during the 3rd or 4th set if you disagree. i've never seen him so agressive.

There are many reasons why Federer choked that match away but I am sure one of them was that Federer had just lost a thriller doubles and the motivation just was not as high as Hewitt's in that match.
Particularly in the 4th/5th set.

All I am saying is that Nalbandian holds a far more imposing head to head against Federer because he has shown he can beat him in slams.

WyverN
01-23-2004, 10:32 AM
Why is everyone secretly hoping that Nadal thrashes Hewitt?

Because Federer will have an easier draw maybe?


Easier draw? Nadal is a future star.

Main reason I want Nadal to win is because Leo gave him no chance lol

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 10:37 AM
Damn that Leo! ;)

Bilbo
01-23-2004, 04:29 PM
I say no.

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 05:32 PM
no negro, I mean 1 or a alitte more years ago...like when he was number 1 and kicking ass. Last year he sucked, like he blew. This year, not to much has improved. Ever since he lost his coach he game has gone down the tubes. Even if he is playing like 20% better he will get smacked down like a ball that wasn't lobbed high enough by Fed.
Judging by the complete lack of response after I reported this, I'm going to assume that the moderators on this site consider it entirely appropriate to use racial slurs.

Charming.

RogiFan88
01-23-2004, 05:32 PM
Not sure if Rafa can beat Lleyt but I'd love to see it... he's on a roll and you never know... Lleyt is not playing brilliantly fr what I've seen [not much].

Mind you I really want Rogi to get his revenge over Lleyt cos that w give him more confidence to meet his arch-nemesis Nalby the God of Tennis...!!

Yeah, and I am one of those Rafa fans, btw...

If Rafa won, it w not necessarily be the easier draw for Rogi.

You realize that DC tie was one of Rogi's absolute worst lately? He's used to winning all if not most of his singles... dbles is another matter... I just wish there was someone ELSE on the SUI team who could help him more! :rolleyes: Only Micha once was the major factor last yr... but I don't see that happening much again...

Chloe le Bopper
01-23-2004, 05:33 PM
(note: "negro" alone is not a slur; it's the context here that is key)

FanOfHewitt
01-23-2004, 05:57 PM
I was a little more curt than I could have been.. no big deal.

What I meant was that when push came to shove, the fact that the Swiss had little chance of winning the next rubber, may have played in the back of his head. So as opposed to going into the fourth and fifth setting knowing that this is IT, he went in knowing it likely was meaningless.

There's probably some truth in that. But the same argument can be applied with regards to Lleyton. When he was 2 points away from losing the match he probably thought that Poo would close out the tie and that a fightback was meaningless. Nevertheless, fight back he did....

But anyway, I accept the excuse as a legitimate one. The match he played the day before also would have had a debilitating effect on Roger.

Raul-Lopez
01-24-2004, 12:02 AM
Good, the match will be coverage in live here in the spanish local public channel of sports... i hate the pay channels:|

star
01-24-2004, 12:18 AM
I just want an opportunity to actually see this kid play. :)

Lots and lots of hype surrounding him. ;)

(p.s. That was just a joke. I think the good ones make their presence known early on, and Nadal certainly has done that.)

sigmagirl91
01-24-2004, 12:37 AM
Wow, Todd is staying toe to toe with Fed man.

sigmagirl91
01-24-2004, 12:42 AM
Fed is two points from the first set. He turned that around rather quickly.