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Semi Grass Saturday

elroyf
06-16-2006, 09:03 PM
Thoughts for the semi-finals at Halle and Queen's Club?

Julio
06-16-2006, 09:08 PM
Hewitt @ 1.42 over Henman. Lleyton is playing very well since Roland. No problem to beat Tim tomorrow with some passing shots. HTH 8-1.
Federer @ 1.15 over Haas and Berdych @ 1.52 over Vliegen.

Odds from Betfair.

elroyf
06-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Henman over Hewitt (2.94, Betfair)

I have not been overly impressed by Henman but he has come through pretty solidly, not losing a set. He did not play great against an error-strewn Tursunov. Hewitt on the other hand has struggled to get here. I thought Nadal was going to beat him (I bet on Hewitt) and luckily Nadal retired. What I have noticed is that Hewitt really lacks penetration. His forehand and backhead are weak in comparison to most and now he also makes quite a few errors. The courts are slower on grass now and this has not helped his game. Put simply, Henman is playing better than Hewitt and has the game to beat him. Ridiculously high odds on Henman.

elroyf
06-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Roddick over Blake (1.40, Betfair)
No contest here. Any odds on Roddick - take them! He has served really well this week. Awesome against Gonzo.
He has an unbeliveable record on grass and has won 85% of the matches he has played on the surface, in his career.
2003 - to present, he has lost three matches on grass, all against Federer, all at Wimbledon.
Blake is a decent grasscourter, but no match for Roddick!

elroyf
06-16-2006, 09:18 PM
Hewitt @ 1.42 over Henman. Lleyton is playing very well since Roland. No problem to beat Tim tomorrow with some passing shots. HTH 8-1.
Odds from Betfair.

Tim hardly ever serves and volleys on grass now. Have you been watching this week?!
He has adapted really well to the slower courts and plays mostly from the baseline.

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 09:49 PM
Henman over Hewitt (2.94, Betfair)

I have not been overly impressed by Henman but he has come through pretty solidly, not losing a set.

You're hard ro please mate :haha: Yeah he didn't play well today...serve was off and his strokes a bit wild...but a lot had to do with Tursunov. He had to be more accurate with the serve which led to it missing more...and the strokes had to be good.

He played well earlier in the week...he has a chance against Hewitt - 40%

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 09:50 PM
Tim hardly ever serves and volleys on grass now. Have you been watching this week?!
He has adapted really well to the slower courts and plays mostly from the baseline.

Yeah but it's hard to see Henman outrallying Hewitt...but there again he must have done something right in Miami

elroyf
06-16-2006, 09:53 PM
Yeah but it's hard to see Henman outrallying Hewitt...but there again he must have done something right in Miami

I think he can outrally Hewitt!

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 10:04 PM
I remember their match at Wimbledon a few years ago and everytime the rally passed 6 shots I used to groan inside, because it was obvious that Henman would crack first...and most of the time he did.

How has that changed now?

dbnumberone
06-16-2006, 10:32 PM
I remember their match at Wimbledon a few years ago and everytime the rally passed 6 shots I used to groan inside, because it was obvious that Henman would crack first...and most of the time he did.

How has that changed now?

what solid semi fields...I'll probably go w/ Berdman

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 10:37 PM
Yeah gut instinct says Berdych for me too...therefore I shouldn't doubt it. If I take i, I'll double with Roddick...can't see him losing to Blake.

flmmkrz
06-16-2006, 10:52 PM
just hewitt for me in tennis but i'll parlay it with some soccer just dont know which match yet

jayrhum
06-17-2006, 12:31 AM
Haas + 4.5 games @ 1.57 (Bet 365)

Well I just can't believe this line...
Fedex coming off a very tough clay season seems to have trouble to find his rythm on grass...
Defeated Gasquet 7-6 (7) 6-7 (7) 6-4 (Richie missing some set points in the first)
Defeated Oli Rochus 6-7(2) 7-6 (9) 7-6 (4) saving 4MPs...
In both, he had huge difficulties to break opponent's serves.
You can't get closer to the edge than that...

So what to expect next round against Haas... well another tight scoreline IMO. Federer still searching for his rythm on grass, Haas having nothing to lose and some weapons to test Roger (his BH especially)

Last year, at this same tourney of Halle, Roger won his match against Haas 6-4 7-6 (9)

A correct line should be +2.5 or 3.5 max IMO!

GL!

Ays25
06-17-2006, 01:10 AM
Haas + 4.5 games @ 1.57 (Bet 365)

Well I just can't believe this line...
Fedex coming off a very tough clay season seems to have trouble to find his rythm on grass...
Defeated Gasquet 7-6 (7) 6-7 (7) 6-4 (Richie missing some set points in the first)
Defeated Oli Rochus 6-7(2) 7-6 (9) 7-6 (4) saving 4MPs...
In both, he had huge difficulties to break opponent's serves.
You can't get closer to the edge than that...

So what to expect next round against Haas... well another tight scoreline IMO. Federer still searching for his rythm on grass, Haas having nothing to lose and some weapons to test Roger (his BH especially)

Last year, at this same tourney of Halle, Roger won his match against Haas 6-4 7-6 (9)

A correct line should be +2.5 or 3.5 max IMO!

GL!

Well you can give a crack to haas winning or taking a set but you never know with him, he can lose the first 7/6 and then give up for 6-1
or even can a set 7/6 and lose 6-4 6-2

so 1.57 is a low price should be around 1.70

but i will bet for haas to win the match, low stakes

Lebowski
06-17-2006, 01:21 AM
Fed x Henman x Blake

dbnumberone
06-17-2006, 03:00 AM
Bet to win a unit on Berdych
gotta go w/ the guy who has put up some solid wins this week against KV who just played Mayer, no grass king, in a 3 setter
gl all

Bolar Bolabi
06-17-2006, 03:08 AM
I like Haas's chances against Federer.

Will be playing Haas when the odds come out.

betowiec
06-17-2006, 07:54 AM
125$ on haas at 6.38

PerfectPairs
06-17-2006, 08:04 AM
same i like Haas @ 6.50

And also Ov 2˝ @ 3.20

Good luck!

elroyf
06-17-2006, 10:21 AM
I remember their match at Wimbledon a few years ago and everytime the rally passed 6 shots I used to groan inside, because it was obvious that Henman would crack first...and most of the time he did.

How has that changed now?

Did you watch their match in Indian Wells? I did and it was the case that Henman was outhitting Hewitt, but it was a close match anyway.

Hewitt is not the player he was by any means. He makes much more errors now.

Henman hasn't played anyone that good on grass so far this week and Hewitt will be his first test. Henman has been playing better than Hewitt for sure, I having seen all of both of their matches.

Sambuca
06-17-2006, 11:33 AM
i think at this odds it's a MUST to take Tim.

betowiec
06-17-2006, 11:58 AM
125$ on haas at 6.38


initially liked 2:1 for fedex, but didn't take it

so losssssssssss

taking Tberd with portugal (straight win) in a double for $175 @1.84

Sheva
06-17-2006, 01:12 PM
One double:

Berdych x Roddick @ 2

i2ooney
06-17-2006, 02:01 PM
got receiver breaks to deuce in game 15! cheers timmy.

now backed henman at 2.62 to win. hopefully he doesn't give it away because he's playing some of his best ever tennis in the last half an hour. seriously.

Sambuca
06-17-2006, 02:26 PM
Fuck Chair Referee....he beat Henman and i've lost my bet! it's not possible that!!

i2ooney
06-17-2006, 02:28 PM
The best quickly followed by the worst of Henman. Some might even say, typical Henman. Never believe the hype.

Sambuca
06-17-2006, 02:33 PM
when you see referee is blind only with you....it's possibile to be nervous.
2-0 third set i think match was closed....but another error of referee when henman was 30-40 and the match has finished.
Thanks Manuel Messina...i would my money come back!

elroyf
06-17-2006, 02:36 PM
So many decisions went against Henman in that match! Not only the crucial one but many others in the match!

Henman was a break up in the decider, playing really well and after that decision he lost the next 5 games!

betowiec
06-17-2006, 03:27 PM
initially liked 2:1 for fedex, but didn't take it

so losssssssssss

taking Tberd with portugal (straight win) in a double for $175 @1.84


routine win for Tomas, will he trouble fedex 2morrow?

dbnumberone
06-17-2006, 03:46 PM
Bet to win a unit on Berdych
gotta go w/ the guy who has put up some solid wins this week against KV who just played Mayer, no grass king, in a 3 setter
gl all

3 & 2, what a nice easy win

elroyf
06-17-2006, 04:18 PM
Two losses - a bad day indeed!

PerfectPairs
06-17-2006, 04:51 PM
same i like Haas @ 6.50

And also Ov 2˝ @ 3.20

Good luck!

Over 2.5 sets got up, but Haas couldnt take fed ex in the 3rd set. So 1-1 for me for today with a gain of just over 1 unit

Good stuff Tommy! :worship: