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Halle: Federer def. O. Rochus 6-7(2), 7-6(9), 7-6(5)

Björki
06-16-2006, 02:12 PM
:eek:

what a match. Olli had 4 or 5 MP in the second set TB.

poor Olli :hug:

tennis_freak67
06-16-2006, 02:20 PM
There's a scoring thread for a reason.

arn
06-16-2006, 02:31 PM
Rochus already had 4 Mp's...

Bubba08
06-16-2006, 02:33 PM
Live scoring are allowed in GM?

Eve83
06-16-2006, 02:54 PM
All livescorepages crashed...lol

My friend who works there as a hostess, said it´s 5-4 Roger leading.

Xristos
06-16-2006, 02:58 PM
Score??

Björki
06-16-2006, 03:15 PM
Fed 6-7, 7-6, 7-6

(from zdf.de)

Federer&Hingis
06-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Roger played like a shit . :o :o :o

I've never seen he played such a horrible like this on grass.

Yappa
06-16-2006, 03:18 PM
So Federer won the 3rd set in the tb? OMG! :eek:
What a chaos! Livescores all down! MTF down! No way to get scores. :(

K-Dog
06-16-2006, 03:18 PM
THANK GOD!!! Does anyone know the tiebreak score by chance?

Nimrodg
06-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Rogerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :woohoo: :yeah:

Bart.
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
Oli :hug:

4 MP! :(

Nimrodg
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
BTW - Roger was leading 6-7 7-6 6-5* 40-0* and blew it :o but the important thing is that eventually he won :D

scoobs
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
7-5 in the third set tiebreak

Neverstopfightin
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
Ollie choker :o

Hola Mr. SK
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
It's more like king Ivo's match :lol:
Ollie should of, could of, would of... :o
Roger certainly has to raise his level if he wants to win the 2nd slam of the year.

bokehlicious
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
Well done Roger, but he'll lose sooner as he's mentally exhausted, so I hope it happens in Halle and not Wimbledon...

mandoura
06-16-2006, 03:20 PM
THANK GOD!!! Does anyone know the tiebreak score by chance?

The last tie-break was 7-5. Roger had a 4-0 lead.

JadexD
06-16-2006, 03:22 PM
Rochus...sooo close! :sad: Why didn't you finish it off? Fed hasn't been playing well on grass at all...maybe he's slightly beatable on that surface :o

LLeytonRules
06-16-2006, 03:22 PM
Roger has to be tired.Also whats with all these tie-breakers this year.He has like a zillion of them!!!I am starting to wonder if he will win wimbledon.He did played like shit.He got broken numerous times, u hardly see that on grass.

Kip
06-16-2006, 03:23 PM
Great job Roger! :)

He must be so physically and even moreso
mentally exhausted but he still pulled it out
and kept his grass winning streak alive! :yeah:

rrfnpump
06-16-2006, 03:23 PM
Olli :hug:
too passive on those 4 MP
but great fight !!

yanchr
06-16-2006, 03:24 PM
Roger needs a rest. But how can he...Wimbledon is coming in sight...sigh...

Monteque
06-16-2006, 03:24 PM
Congrats Roger.
:clap2:

Leo
06-16-2006, 03:25 PM
Oh wow, poor Ollie. He keeps coming up just short against Federer. 4 match points, my my!

Federer is fortunate to keep the streak alive. He's never had such trouble adjusting to grass from clay.

landoud
06-16-2006, 03:25 PM
I hope he raises his level soon
but anyway... Good luck

freesbee
06-16-2006, 03:26 PM
Oli :bigcry: :sad:

Conita
06-16-2006, 03:26 PM
good effort ollie!!!

:hug:

Bubba08
06-16-2006, 03:26 PM
What an escape from Roger :eek:

Billabong
06-16-2006, 03:26 PM
Roger has to be tired.Also whats with all these tie-breakers this year.He has like a zillion of them!!!I am starting to wonder if he will win wimbledon.He did played like shit.He got broken numerous times, u hardly see that on grass.

LOL even though he played 3 tiebreaks today, he got broken only 4 times, it's not thaaaat bad:lol:

Bilbo
06-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Roger is getting more and more invincible as he's getting older. Pity a lot of his opponents choke when they have him on the ropes :o

BlakeorHenman
06-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Ah, what could have been...

federated
06-16-2006, 03:30 PM
that was way way too close.

Kip
06-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Roger is getting more and more invincible as he's getting older. Pity a lot of his opponents choke when they have him on the ropes :o

Something all players hope for as
they grow older. :cool:

shotgun
06-16-2006, 03:32 PM
That was a predictable choke. ;)

K-Dog
06-16-2006, 03:32 PM
The last tie-break was 7-5. Roger had a 4-0 lead.

thanks. btw, nadal just retired.

WF4EVER
06-16-2006, 03:34 PM
Oh wow, poor Ollie. He keeps coming up just short against Federer. 4 match points, my my!

Federer is fortunate to keep the streak alive. He's never had such trouble adjusting to grass from clay.

He's never made the FO final either, has he?

The guy is tired, mentally and physically, and he lost the final last week in heartbreaking fashion. He's doing damn well considering how bad he's been playing. Considering how close these matches have been with Roger in this condition, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd be winning easily if he hadn't had such a rough week last week.

Corey Feldman
06-16-2006, 03:35 PM
roger is killing himself this week :scared:
his semi v haas/soderling is gonna be unbelievably difficult

Sven
06-16-2006, 03:36 PM
Oli :sad:
every match you get closer to beating him! Beat him at Wimby!! :worship:

mandoura
06-16-2006, 03:39 PM
Honnestly:

- Roger: I don't know if he deserves to be congratulated on an, ... uh, undeserved win. However, a win is a win and I am more relieved than happy he did win at the end http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/mandoura/smilies/emotion/sweat.gif . He really needs to wake up.

- Ollie: I think we should not be tough on him. This is really a heartbreaking loss. :hatoff: to him for the way he played and the shots he made. And yes, as said here in other posts, poor Ollie. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/mandoura/smilies/love/console.gif

mandoura
06-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Roger is getting more and more invincible as he's getting older. Pity a lot of his opponents choke when they have him on the ropes :o

I think you mean he is getting more and more vincible, i.e. beatable. ;)

scoobs
06-16-2006, 03:44 PM
Still - at least it shows Roger *does* have the stomach for a fight still - even if he doesn't really feel in the mood and the game isn't working well.

guinevere_79
06-16-2006, 03:48 PM
I guess this only proves that the current tournament scheduling makes it very very difficult for someone to adjust immediately from clay to grass. Clay just takes too much toll on one's game.

I'm surprised that Roger is still winning these matches. He should really take a rest. I definitely see an upset looming tommorow, especially if he gets Tommy Haas as his opponent.

Hagar
06-16-2006, 03:49 PM
Oh wow, poor Ollie. He keeps coming up just short against Federer. 4 match points, my my!

Who doesn't keep coming short against Federer, apart from Nadal?


Federer is fortunate to keep the streak alive. He's never had such trouble adjusting to grass from clay.

Well, he also never played on clay until the last Sunday...

In any case, Ollie is an awesome player and a threat to anyone.

Wish I could have seen that match.

nobama
06-16-2006, 03:51 PM
I guess this only proves that the current tournament scheduling makes it very very difficult for someone to adjust immediately from clay to grass. Clay just takes too much toll on one's game.

I'm surprised that Roger is still winning these matches. He should really take a rest. I definitely see an upset looming tommorow, especially if he gets Tommy Haas as his opponent.Soderling almost beat him here last year, he won't be any easier.

I wish he would withdraw, or by the time he gets to Wimbledon he'll have nothing left in the tank. :sad:

holagirl56
06-16-2006, 03:52 PM
I hope Roger has been able to get a feel for the grass with these tough matches. He's straining himself mentally and physically to go for Borg's streak, kind of a 'anything you can do, I can do better' competition with Nadal, no?

His next match won't be easy, so I hope that he gets a good night's rest or retires from the tournament, because I'd much rather see him lose here, than at Wimby.

Good luck Roger!

Golfnduck
06-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Too bad for Oli, I thought he could hold on when he was up a break in the 3rd.

lucashg
06-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Honnestly:

- Roger: I don't know if he deserves to be congratulated on an, ... uh, undeserved win. However, a win is a win and I am more relieved than happy he did win at the end http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/mandoura/smilies/emotion/sweat.gif . He really needs to wake up.

Erm, how was that an undeserved win? He fought so much and mainly came up with the goods when facing MPs. All he need is a rest, but it seems he really wants this title. Soderling or Haas will be really tough, perhaps even more so than Oli, but I believe Roger can do it.

The guy is tired, mentally and physically, and he lost the final last week in heartbreaking fashion. He's doing damn well considering how bad he's been playing. Considering how close these matches have been with Roger in this condition, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd be winning easily if he hadn't had such a rough week last week.

I agree.

Congrats Roger! Good luck in the SF!
Oli, better luck next time, it was a really good effort!

nobama
06-16-2006, 03:56 PM
Roger played like a shit . :o :o :o

I've never seen he played such a horrible like this on grass.Maybe give the guy a break since he obviously has to be mentally and physically exhausted. And the guys he's playing are quality opponents who haven't played nearly as much as Roger has over the past two months or so. If he's playing crappy I think its because he's wiped out, nothing more.

K-Dog
06-16-2006, 03:57 PM
Soderling almost beat him here last year, he won't be any easier.

I wish he would withdraw, or by the time he gets to Wimbledon he'll have nothing left in the tank. :sad:

after this, he has a whole week off. he plays every other day at Wimbledon and grass is not a taxing surface. he knows that he plays on Monday at 1:00, so he should have no issues.

rofe
06-16-2006, 04:00 PM
after this, he has a whole week off. he plays every other day at Wimbledon and grass is not a taxing surface. he knows that he plays on Monday at 1:00, so he should have no issues.

I think mirkaland meant mental exhaustion. I think physically he will be fine but I am not so sure about the mental side.

oz_boz
06-16-2006, 04:00 PM
That was way too close for me to be calm. :scared: I will not put my money on Rog in the last two rounds, he must be exhausted both physically and mentally, and add to that a fast switch of surfaces...

nobama
06-16-2006, 04:00 PM
I hope Roger has been able to get a feel for the grass with these tough matches. He's straining himself mentally and physically to go for Borg's streak, kind of a 'anything you can do, I can do better' competition with Nadal, no?

His next match won't be easy, so I hope that he gets a good night's rest or retires from the tournament, because I'd much rather see him lose here, than at Wimby.

Good luck Roger!We don't know that he's straining himself just to keep a streak alive. And it's not the same anyway because Borg's wins were at Wimbledon only. I honestly believe he didn't want to go into Wimbledon cold with no match play on grass at all. I'd rather have him lose here than Wimbledon for sure, but I'd also rather see him retire than put himself through another grinder of a match.

At least these type of matches show me that Mats Wilander's comments about Roger's balls were :retard:

Federerhingis
06-16-2006, 04:01 PM
Maybe give the guy a break since he obviously has to be mentally and physically exhausted. And the guys he's playing are quality opponents who haven't played nearly as much as Roger has over the past two months or so. If he's playing crappy I think its because he's wiped out, nothing more.

Plus his opponents have had much more time to get acquainted with grass. Poor Fed. What a scare and what grit, he's at least fighting his way through this tournie.

kindablue
06-16-2006, 04:02 PM
Good fight Ollie :yeah:

Federerhingis
06-16-2006, 04:04 PM
It's more like king Ivo's match :lol:
Ollie should of, could of, would of... :o
Roger certainly has to raise his level if he wants to win the 2nd slam of the year.


You mean his second slam for the year. Wimby is 3rd after Roland. ;)

K-Dog
06-16-2006, 04:05 PM
I think mirkaland meant mental exhaustion. I think physically he will be fine but I am not so sure about the mental side.
maybe. if fed wins at Halle, he won't be mentally exhausted.

Skyward
06-16-2006, 04:05 PM
Erm, how was that an undeserved win? He fought so much !

Don't bother with tards.

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2006, 04:07 PM
- Roger: I don't know if he deserves to be congratulated on an, ... uh, undeserved win.

There is no such thing unless you hit 8 or 9 netchords, or if your opponent retires when close to victory, or if there are multiple bad calls in your favor.

DDrago2
06-16-2006, 04:07 PM
I'v seen first two sets on DSF Federer was cool as ice and looked as he didn't care too much I don't know if he did? But he was discusted with his game on moments, expecialy with his aproaches to the net. Rochus played very great, much was going his way
And still he couldn't win :confused:

holagirl56
06-16-2006, 04:08 PM
We don't know that he's straining himself just to keep a streak alive. And it's not the same anyway because Borg's wins were at Wimbledon only. I honestly believe he didn't want to go into Wimbledon cold with no match play on grass at all. I'd rather have him lose here than Wimbledon for sure, but I'd also rather see him retire than put himself through another grinder of a match.

At least these type of matches show me that Mats Wilander's comments about Roger's balls were :retard:

I meant that he wants this streak badly, and that could be a reason why he's playing Halle, another being preparation for Wimby.

I hope he is able to pick his level up for his next match, or have an easy one. If not, he should retire and just prepare for Wimbledon with Tony. :wavey:

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2006, 04:16 PM
As for the match, Federer is pushing himself to do the impossible. He was playing the RG final THIS PAST SUNDAY and he lost to his rival for the third consecutive time. He was mentall exhausted, but probably not phsyically. He probably said to himself, "I need matches on grass, I want to put Paris behind me, I don't want to go into the Wimbledon having lost in Paris, I don't want to play the week before Wimby and then have to play 3 condecutive weeks, etc. so I will play Halle." He is paying the price for this right now. Rochus is a tough customer, but Rochus shouldn't be giving him so much trouble on his serve on grass, especially if Federer is putting in 60%+ of them in. Combine that with the fact that he couldn't do anything on Ollie's serve mean that this was a completely abnormal match on grass for Federer. he is just hanging on by a thread now.

Physically, he had changed his BH and BH return for the clay season. He is used to chip his returns on surfaces other than clay, especially grass, and his timing is off. He was playing the BH drive almost all of the time on clay, but he can't now because the timing and footing are completely different. Basically, he prepared for 2.5 months to win that Sunday final against Nadal, changed things physically, geared all his mental and phsyical focus towards beating Nadal in that final and came up short. Now he has to make the biggest transisiton in tennis and he doesn't have much left in the tank.

One thing is for sure: all that talk about Federer being mentally fragile and not much of a fighter is total garbage. He could've packed in the bags at ANY time today and didn't.

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2006, 04:29 PM
BTW, Borg might have increased his streak if he did play smaller grass tournaments, but there is also a chance he would've lost. Nobody was going to beat him in a best of 5 sets on grass until JMac came along. It was, however, possible to beat him in a best of 3. Borg always got stronger as the match went along and never seemed to tired. That's why he won so many 4th and 5th sets. Other than at the USO against Connors and JMac, he lost most of his matches in smaller tournaments in best of 3 matches.

Take a look at Pete: he lost so many times at Queen's to guys he would never lose to in a best of 5 at Wimby. Yeah, I know, Pete probably go all out to win those matches, but it is possible to play really well for best of 3 and get some luck to win on grass. On clay, you have to win a lot of points by rallying and playing the point. On grass, you can win a lot of fast points, and your opponent could hit a double fault, net an easy volley, you hit a great return and you have a break and maybe a set.

Pete lost to Bjorkman and Woodforde on grass. Good players on grass, but Pete has huge matchup advantages against them. He also lost to Gilbert (!!!!), and Grant Stafford (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) the year he won his first SW19 title in 1993. He also lost to Martin, a guy who never had a prayer of beating him at Wimby even though he would play him tough.

mandoura
06-16-2006, 04:30 PM
Erm, how was that an undeserved win? He fought so much and mainly came up with the goods when facing MPs. All he need is a rest, but it seems he really wants this title. Soderling or Haas will be really tough, perhaps even more so than Oli, but I believe Roger can do it.


I think Ollie deserved to win. Yes he fought but Ollie helped a bit too.

I don't know what is happening to Roger :sad: . He seems absent minded and pretty subdued as of late. His unforced errors are climbing. He's missing shots he used to make with shut eyes. Sometimes he seems like he's in a coma.

I guess and hope you're right about the rest. He's been under a lot of stress lately. I really wish he defends his title. I'll start praying for the semis as of now.

Volcanic Tennis
06-16-2006, 04:34 PM
Poor Olivier :sad: That's really too bad...

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2006, 04:36 PM
I think Ollie deserved to win. Yes he fought but Ollie helped a bit too.

I don't know what is happening to Roger . He seems absent minded and pretty subdued as of late. His unforced errors are climbing. He's missing shots he used to make with shut eyes. Sometimes he seems like he's in a coma.

Ollie should've won that match, but obviously there are no should haves in sports; otherwise, Roger would've won Rome! :)

I understand what you are saying.

As for what is happening, he is mentally exhausted, probably physically now, under a lot of pressure, is never allowed to lose, etc. It all adds up after awhile, even if you are as great as Federer. A good week of rest, some good practices, some easy matches to start Wimby and he will be fine.

yanchr
06-16-2006, 04:41 PM
As for the match, Federer is pushing himself to do the impossible. He was playing the RG final THIS PAST SUNDAY and he lost to his rival for the third consecutive time. He was mentall exhausted, but probably not phsyically. He probably said to himself, "I need matches on grass, I want to put Paris behind me, I don't want to go into the Wimbledon having lost in Paris, I don't want to play the week before Wimby and then have to play 3 condecutive weeks, etc. so I will play Halle." He is paying the price for this right now. Rochus is a tough customer, but Rochus shouldn't be giving him so much trouble on his serve on grass, especially if Federer is putting in 60%+ of them in. Combine that with the fact that he couldn't do anything on Ollie's serve mean that this was a completely abnormal match on grass for Federer. he is just hanging on by a thread now.

Physically, he had changed his BH and BH return for the clay season. He is used to chip his returns on surfaces other than clay, especially grass, and his timing is off. He was playing the BH drive almost all of the time on clay, but he can't now because the timing and footing are completely different. Basically, he prepared for 2.5 months to win that Sunday final against Nadal, changed things physically, geared all his mental and phsyical focus towards beating Nadal in that final and came up short. Now he has to make the biggest transisiton in tennis and he doesn't have much left in the tank.

One thing is for sure: all that talk about Federer being mentally fragile and not much of a fighter is total garbage. He could've packed in the bags at ANY time today and didn't.
Thanks for the analysis. Good as always. I didn't watch the match, but I agree with all the mental thing. Hopefully he can hang in there for two more days, then go to Wimbledon with a title in hand and regained confidence in mind with him, and also a fresh body.

ExpectedWinner
06-16-2006, 04:47 PM
I think Ollie deserved to win. Yes he fought but Ollie helped a bit too.

I don't know what is happening to Roger :sad: . He seems absent minded and pretty subdued as of late. His unforced errors are climbing. He's missing shots he used to make with shut eyes. Sometimes he seems like he's in a coma.


I did not see the match. If Fed was in "coma", then he helped Rocus too.

So, from this report I can't really understand who deserved a victory, if such a thing exists in tennis.

mandoura
06-16-2006, 04:48 PM
Ollie should've won that match, but obviously there are no should haves in sports; otherwise, Roger would've won Rome! :)

I understand what you are saying.


Yes, of course :) . It's not that I am upset he won the match, on the contrary, I am very happy for him and mostly relieved as I said in my previous post. In the second set, I started sweating uncontrollably and getting palpitations :o . He was so close to losing.

And thank you for understanding because some others aren't. :)

As for what is happening, he is mentally exhausted, probably physically now, under a lot of pressure, is never allowed to lose, etc. It all adds up after awhile, even if you are as great as Federer. A good week of rest, some good practices, some easy matches to start Wimby and he will be fine.

Yeah you're right. This is how I see it too but it's painful to watch him struggle.

Federerhingis
06-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Yes, of course :) . It's not that I am upset he won the match, on the contrary, I am very happy for him and mostly relieved as I said in my previous post. In the second set, I started sweating uncontrollably and getting palpitations :o . He was so close to losing.

And thank you for understanding because some others aren't. :)



Yeah you're right. This is how I see it too but it's painful to watch him struggle.

I know Mandy and watching Turunov spraying balls all over the place and then Hewitt hitting balls on the lower part of the net wasnt helping. After I saw the score on the score board losing the set 6-7 and was down 1-2 in the second set I had to turn off my computer. :hug: :hug:

bokehlicious
06-16-2006, 04:58 PM
When Roger got his warning for throwing a ball in the audience, he even didn't seem to be angry or pissed, just tired, but not physically, just like if he was sick of being under such huge pressure for so long...

Yappa
06-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Table soccer action after Federers win:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2682/vlcsnap2112102sj.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2048/vlcsnap2115447id.jpg

Billabong
06-16-2006, 05:06 PM
LOL:lol: thanks for the pic, Rogi looks focused:cool:

mishar
06-16-2006, 05:06 PM
Good analysis, NYC tennis fan!

People are too hard on Roger. He reached his first FO final -- yes, Nadal has has had his number on clay, but Roger dominated everyone else on his worst surface.

Now clearly he's tired, but he should be fine for Wimbledon.. Rochus and Gasquet are good players with great backhands who've given him trouble before.. whether he wins Halle or not, he'll be okay for Wimbledon and still the heavy favorite.

Kuds to Rog for fighting so hard in a minor match!

mandoura
06-16-2006, 05:07 PM
I know Mandy and watching Turunov spraying balls all over the place and then Hewitt hitting balls on the lower part of the net wasnt helping. After I saw the score on the score board losing the set 6-7 and was down 1-2 in the second set I had to turn off my computer. :hug: :hug:

I did something similar. After he lost that first tie break, I couldn't believe it. I was watching the match on TV. When the 2nd tie-break started and Ollie got the matchpoints, I left the room and followed the score online. I couldn't look, so my daughter was telling me the score. I was so happy when he took that 2nd set. Then, he was broken in the 1st game in the 3d set. I was watching from behind a pillow. When he broke back, I think my tonsils got out from screaming. I nearly fainted when he won the match. This should give you an idea of what a wreck I am when watching my son play. ;) :D

Yappa
06-16-2006, 05:12 PM
@mandoura: Did you record the match?

Federerhingis
06-16-2006, 05:15 PM
I did something similar. After he lost that first tie break, I couldn't believe it. I was watching the match on TV. When the 2nd tie-break started and Ollie got the matchpoints, I left the room and followed the score online. I couldn't look, so my daughter was telling me the score. I was so happy when he took that 2nd set. Then, he was broken in the 1st game in the 3d set. I was watching from behind a pillow. When he broke back, I think my tonsils got out from screaming. I nearly fainted when he won the match. This should give you an idea of what a wreck I am when watching my son play. ;) :D

I know I remember during the Rome final I was having breakfast at the time I couldn't finish it or else I would have choked watching the match. :o

Or ended with a really upset stomach. :lol:

It's too nerve wrecking.

tangerine_dream
06-16-2006, 05:27 PM
That was a brilliant comeback from Roger. :cool:

stebs
06-16-2006, 05:35 PM
In the tiebreak Roger hit winners on each of Rochus three MP's. Not the type of match he wanted but a useful match nonetheless.

Scotso
06-16-2006, 06:09 PM
Poor Ollie :sad:

Roger is looking really vulnerable.

tennisgal_001
06-16-2006, 06:39 PM
I know I remember during the Rome final I was having breakfast at the time I couldn't finish it or else I would have choked watching the match. :o

Or ended with a really upset stomach. :lol:

It's too nerve wrecking.

Nerve-wrecking is too simple of a phrase to describe it. I remember the Roma final... I needed CPR before, during, and after the match... today wasn't any better. I couldn't watch the whole match because Argentina were playing their WC match, but after watching the second set tie-break, I realized how life-threatening Fed's matches are. I hope he feels better tomorrow... Haas is no pushover, and could drive Roger up the wall.

nobama
06-16-2006, 07:42 PM
After looking at these pics I swear if I didn't know the score I'd have thought Roger lost. :sad:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060616/capt.f1e6f7dbbbf941c481eb89225bd0c2ca.germany_tenn is_atp_hal127.jpg http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060616/capt.b7b4377221974cbdabfecf52ef470a48.germany_tenn is_atp_hal128.jpg

dkw
06-16-2006, 07:44 PM
Oh Ollie :sad: :sad: Don't worry, next time you'll get that silly wabbit!!!

Allez
06-16-2006, 07:52 PM
It's weird how some people are only now realising the toll RG took on Rogi. After the final. there were polls on who would win Halle and Wimbledon. Most Roger fans were saying that he would walk both tournaments. I couldn't believe those comments. People were saying "he's bounced back so well before". They didn't think there was any difference between last year's RG and this year's in terms of how it shape the rest of the season. People were saying "roll in the grass"...I was staggered at such ridiculous comments. Now at last people are seeing the ramifications of that RG loss. And still some people in this thread predict him to sweep to victory at Wimbledon... It’s not rocket science to figure out that Rogi is hugely disappointed, hugely exhausted (mentally and otherwise) and …erm a little “fed-up”. Mentally he is on the brink… Also even if he lost here, it doesn’t automatically mean that will be his only loss on grass this year. I’d rather he won Halle as that will do wonders for his confidence and a renewal in confidence is what Roger is in bad need of. Talent is NOT all that matters in sport…not by a long shot.

Haas must be rubbing his hands right now. Finally he gets a chance to beat Roger and fulfil his year long rant that he can beat Federer and finally do justice to his comments @ the Aussie…

Ollie- Poor thing :hug:

njnetswill
06-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Noooo. First Gasquet and now Olivier. :o

yanchr
06-16-2006, 08:19 PM
Nerve-wrecking is too simple of a phrase to describe it. I remember the Roma final... I needed CPR before, during, and after the match... today wasn't any better. I couldn't watch the whole match because Argentina were playing their WC match, but after watching the second set tie-break, I realized how life-threatening Fed's matches are. I hope he feels better tomorrow... Haas is no pushover, and could drive Roger up the wall.
And people are talking about it's easy and happy to be a Roger fan...It surely is not in the last couple of months...I was dying all those matches and am having a whole pile of my own things delayed...

Haas is one of the last few guys that I want Roger to lose to. Now comes his best chance...HOLD ON pls Roger...or just withdraw

KoOlMaNsEaN
06-16-2006, 08:46 PM
Geez Roger stop scaring us! Especially on Grass

almouchie
06-16-2006, 08:50 PM
the livescore got stuck at 4-2 in the third set
the again at 5-5
I left came back after 30 minutes to see federer winning teh match
what a chance for Olli
wasted
but good news for others that federer is not invincible on grass

BlakeorHenman
06-16-2006, 08:54 PM
This match didn't lead me to believe that federer is more vulnerable than ever before. I'm not a federer fan, by the way, but he always seems to come up with JUST enough against anyone on grass. Personally,. I really do think he'll sweep Halle and Wimbeldon, not losing a ton of sets along the way. I was SOOOOO sure Olli would come through today with all the chances he had, but it didnt happen. Roger was and is too strong...

rofe
06-16-2006, 08:55 PM
the livescore got stuck at 4-2 in the third set
the again at 5-5
I left came back after 30 minutes to see federer winning teh match
what a chance for Olli
wasted
but good news for others that federer is not invincible on grass

I doubt it. Players are not that stupid. Roger has had an intense clay court season culminating in an intense FO final so it is natural for him to struggle.

As Roddick put it best after Roger's loss in the exhibition preceeding AO 06 - it is only an exhibition and there is nothing positive to take away for other players after that loss.

dkw
06-16-2006, 09:00 PM
As Roddick put it best after Roger's loss in the exhibition preceeding AO 06 - it is only an exhibition and there is nothing positive to take away for other players after that loss.
Well the minute players like Roddick stop thinking this way, they'll begin beating Roger!!!

hablovah19
06-16-2006, 09:03 PM
Big ouf, Fedex :bowdown::o

BlackButterfly
06-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Aww lil'poor Ollie :sad: :hug:

Roger :ras:

rofe
06-16-2006, 09:08 PM
Well the minute players like Roddick stop thinking this way, they'll begin beating Roger!!!

No, you have to be prepared to play Federer on the day you play Federer. If you get your hopes up just because Fed is struggling in some tournament then you will lose badly. I think Andy was being realistic.

musefanatic
06-16-2006, 09:34 PM
Fed showed exactly why he's such a great player today, coming back from 4 match points! Amazing! :)

James Blake was talking to eurosport and I swear he's part of the Roger Federer appreciation Society, very vocal about how great Federer is and saying he is the only guy who can really read Roddick's serve. I think it was nice he said it and it shows just how much the other players respect Fed :)

dkw
06-16-2006, 09:45 PM
Again Blake is another one, as is Ljubicic... stop praising and start kicking some ass!!!

Corey Feldman
06-17-2006, 12:36 AM
Well the minute players like Roddick stop thinking this way, they'll begin beating Roger!!!you make Federer sound like some 'paper champ' who's only on top because the rest dont have the mind to beat him...
if that is the case then why does Roddick lose to the likes of verdasco, mathieu, baghdatis, pavel, murray, benneteau, andreev, ferrer, haas, monfils, muller, ginepri, ljubicic, karlovic lately... as Federer doesnt.

robert6061
06-17-2006, 01:37 AM
I saw Rogi and Ollie's match at the US Open last year and it was a fairly close encounter but Roger didn't drop a set. After being taken all the way by Gasquet,he fought off FOUR match points in the quarters from his doubles partner in the juniors?? It seems inconceivable but unless Roger ups his level he is unlikely to make it four in a row on the lawns of SW19 this year.

new-york
06-17-2006, 02:07 AM
not expected. too bad Oli didn't close the match.

azmad_88
06-17-2006, 05:01 AM
congrats roger

its ok olie

star
06-17-2006, 05:08 AM
Ollie :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

star
06-17-2006, 05:11 AM
It's weird how some people are only now realising the toll RG took on Rogi. After the final. there were polls on who would win Halle and Wimbledon. Most Roger fans were saying that he would walk both tournaments. I couldn't believe those comments. People were saying "he's bounced back so well before". They didn't think there was any difference between last year's RG and this year's in terms of how it shape the rest of the season. People were saying "roll in the grass"...I was staggered at such ridiculous comments. Now at last people are seeing the ramifications of that RG loss. And still some people in this thread predict him to sweep to victory at Wimbledon... It’s not rocket science to figure out that Rogi is hugely disappointed, hugely exhausted (mentally and otherwise) and …erm a little “fed-up”. Mentally he is on the brink… Also even if he lost here, it doesn’t automatically mean that will be his only loss on grass this year. I’d rather he won Halle as that will do wonders for his confidence and a renewal in confidence is what Roger is in bad need of. Talent is NOT all that matters in sport…not by a long shot.

Haas must be rubbing his hands right now. Finally he gets a chance to beat Roger and fulfil his year long rant that he can beat Federer and finally do justice to his comments @ the Aussie…

Ollie- Poor thing :hug:

I hope you are right! But I fear you are not. Hopefully Haas can take advantage of a depleted Federer when Ollie could not. It's hard to kill a lion.

I still think Federer will have some rest and "sweep" to victory at Wimbledon. I don't see who will stop him there.

Of coursse, I'm always open to being delighted. :angel:

mandoura
06-17-2006, 08:29 AM
@mandoura: Did you record the match?

No.

mandoura
06-17-2006, 08:32 AM
After looking at these pics I swear if I didn't know the score I'd have thought Roger lost. :sad:


Yes. :sad:

mickymouse
06-17-2006, 08:56 AM
Look at it another way, he saved 4 mps. That's mental toughness, no?

bandabou
06-17-2006, 10:10 AM
Winning is winning..yeah, the wins are getting tougher, but they're all wins. I found that people were questioning Roger's toughness just because he lost oto Nadal at Paris. It ain't like the loss was an accident. NOBODY has beaten Nadal on clay in over a year now.And Roger was the one who has came the closest. He always plays Nadal tough, despite him not being a clay-courter....but he loses his first final at a major on his worst surface against the best clay-courter and suddenly he's overhyped, blah blah..pathetic.

Neely
06-17-2006, 11:54 AM
What a match!! :eek: Congrats to both! :worship: three tiebreaks :lol: that's it! ;)

look, look... Rochus is generally a good grasscourt player and he went on to show that again yesterday as he was forcing Federer to three tiebreaks and lost them as close as he could possibly lose them and people still say and make excused about grass "*whine* my player is not at least 6'2" tall and doesn't have a big booming serve... grass is only serve and boring servefest, my player just doesn't have a chance *whine*" :lol:

tennisgal_001
06-17-2006, 12:43 PM
Winning is winning..yeah, the wins are getting tougher, but they're all wins. I found that people were questioning Roger's toughness just because he lost oto Nadal at Paris. It ain't like the loss was an accident. NOBODY has beaten Nadal on clay in over a year now.And Roger was the one who has came the closest. He always plays Nadal tough, despite him not being a clay-courter....but he loses his first final at a major on his worst surface against the best clay-courter and suddenly he's overhyped, blah blah..pathetic.

Ditto.
:yeah:

TennisGrandSlam
06-17-2006, 12:48 PM
acceptable

Don't forget Roger has no rest after RG final (Clay), and then turn to defend his Halle title (Grass)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-17-2006, 04:19 PM
The process means nothing at last,a loss is a loss,Oli! :fiery::bigcry: