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Philippoussis' dream wild card on Wimbly:REJECTED >> ACCEPTED

mr_burns
06-15-2006, 07:05 PM
One is still not announced, so will he get one again

Andre♥
06-15-2006, 07:10 PM
One is still not announced, so will he get one again

Give it to Whitehouse... :tape:

smucav
06-15-2006, 07:22 PM
One is still not announced, so will he get one againHe's already been told he isn't getting one & thus will be playing the qualifying:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=3643768&postcount=49

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 07:31 PM
He's already been told he isn't getting one & thus will be playing the qualifying:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=3643768&postcount=49

:woohoo: Great news

Scotso
06-15-2006, 08:28 PM
:woohoo: Great news

Agreed, he's sucked up enough WCs for 20 lifetimes.

musefanatic
06-15-2006, 08:35 PM
Oh good, i don't think he deserves them anymore.

Bilbo
06-15-2006, 08:40 PM
Scud sucks a fat one. Good he doesn't get A WC.

shotgun
06-15-2006, 09:06 PM
Judging by the form he showed at Queen's, he might as well enter Wimbly's main draw as a qualifier.

Monteque
06-16-2006, 02:01 PM
What a pity for this guy.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=reu-stellaphilippoussis&prov=reuters&type=lgns

All England Club denied his request for a WC on grass GS. He battled some injuries problem so this year he just won a few matches. Then he is about to get cracking up the good matches at Queens- beating Grosjean tightly but couldn't pass Gonzo.

His results this year so far force him to take another way through the quallies.
Anyway, :clap2: for Mark not for keep waiting for remaining WC and set up himself to face the quallies.
I know this is the decision by the committee of All England Club, but should be more softer considering what he has done in 2003 when he skimmed until the final and i wonder who the the lucky players finally get all those WC.

any thoughts?

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 02:03 PM
The best decision Wimbledon Committee has made in years. Just because Flip wins 2 matches at Queen's doesn't make his suspect form and attitude alright.

Makes me wonder who the other 4 WC go to though. Fish should get 1 if he needs it.

Deboogle!.
06-16-2006, 02:08 PM
Fish should get 1 if he needs it.He made the direct cut! :yeah:

I think it's good that Flip is fine with qualifying. He needs the matches and handing him all these WCs really doesn't help him. he needs the matches and he needs to earn it and I hope he can qualify and do well.

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 02:17 PM
He made the direct cut! :yeah:


:woohoo: :banana:

mr_burns
06-16-2006, 02:19 PM
he got so many wc, even at wimbledon, at some point you have to start to deserve them

Former great players have no right on a WC, Enquist was in a Q for a Slam as well

scoobs
06-16-2006, 02:19 PM
Good - how many wildcards does Mark need anyway? He should stop trying to play at this level and go down and work his way back up the hard way instead of trying to play at a level that won't allow him to get the wins

Andre♥
06-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Wildcards should be for young players with talent, not for some old players that can't reach the main draw!

Monteque
06-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Makes me wonder who the other 4 WC go to though. Fish should get 1 if he needs it.

Fish record this year quite good with the title in Houston and 2 Challengers and probably he'll get one.
Correct me if i get wrong but is it posibble max WC to be given is 8?

mangoes
06-16-2006, 03:37 PM
GOOD!!!

DDrago2
06-16-2006, 03:37 PM
He would have no chance of doing something anyway

rofe
06-16-2006, 03:45 PM
Flip should go through qualifying. This was a good decision.

Experimentee
06-16-2006, 03:45 PM
He'd been getting too many WCs. About time one of his requests is rejected!
He hasnt done anything except win those two matches this week, and the week before lost to Whitehouse in Surbiton :rolleyes:

Björki
06-16-2006, 03:47 PM
good decision. He wasted a lot of WC this year.

Conita
06-16-2006, 04:00 PM
he needs to get more matches b4 playing in th main draws!
qualy is the best way for him
:P

dorotek20
06-16-2006, 04:33 PM
Finally.
How many matches he won after receiving WC? I think only 2 or 3.
He should play in qualy

mr_burns
06-16-2006, 05:12 PM
He would have no chance of doing something anyway
the wildcards won't go far at all, no matter who gets one


maybe molik on the womens side

Chris Seahorse
06-16-2006, 09:57 PM
And in a crazy about-face it turns out according to the BBC that Philippoussis IS infact getting a wild card after all. I would say this is a pathetic decision but in fairness criticism should be directed at the All England Club not Philippoussis himself. Clearly, and to his credit, Philippoussis was not expecting a wild card and was prepared to enter the qualifying. As everyone, fans and non-fans alike seem to acknowledge this would have done him alot of good but some how the tennis world just can't keep themselves from dishing out wild cards on the guy.

adee-gee
06-16-2006, 10:02 PM
Wow what a surprise :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 10:09 PM
And in a crazy about-face it turns out according to the BBC that Philippoussis IS infact getting a wild card after all. I would say this is a pathetic decision but in fairness criticism should be directed at the All England Club not Philippoussis himself. Clearly, and to his credit, Philippoussis was not expecting a wild card and was prepared to enter the qualifying. As everyone, fans and non-fans alike seem to acknowledge this would have done him alot of good but some how the tennis world just can't keep themselves from dishing out wild cards on the guy.

I think a lot of pathetic decisions were made today. Roger Draper said that WC should only be given to players that can win at least 1 round. Okay, we give 1 to Bogdanovic, Baker and Bloomfield straight off. They stand a chance but won't win a match :rolleyes:

We then give one to Delgado who won the Wildcard Play-off...fair does. He performs quite well on grass and earned it.

HOWEVER, we then give 2 to Mackin and Lee, despite the fact they LOST in the WC play-off. I have a problem with them going against Roger Draper's wishes...but I think both do in fact deserve WCs...Mackin is a fighter and Lee has come back strongly from 3 years of injuries.

BUT to give Flip a WC after a reversal of decision is stupid. Yeah he may win a match but he has proved time and time again that he is a waste of time and space.

Chris Seahorse
06-16-2006, 10:15 PM
I think a lot of pathetic decisions were made today. Roger Draper said that WC should only be given to players that can win at least 1 round. Okay, we give 1 to Bogdanovic, Baker and Bloomfield straight off. They stand a chance but won't win a match :rolleyes:

We then give one to Delgado who won the Wildcard Play-off...fair does. He performs quite well on grass and earned it.

HOWEVER, we then give 2 to Mackin and Lee, despite the fact they LOST in the WC play-off. I have a problem with them going against Roger Draper's wishes...but I think both do in fact deserve WCs...Mackin is a fighter and Lee has come back strongly from 3 years of injuries.

BUT to give Flip a WC after a reversal of decision is stupid. Yeah he may win a match but he has proved time and time again that he is a waste of time and space.

Not everyone would agree with you on that but I can't deny that pretty much sums up my feelings about him too. Although having said that, if he can rebuild his career in the proper manner (via challengers and qualifying) I will be the first to give him credit where credit is due.

Bilbo
06-16-2006, 10:18 PM
cya flip

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 10:22 PM
if he can rebuild his career in the proper manner (via challengers and qualifying) I will be the first to give him credit where credit is due.

So will I...but he won't. He is all talk and no action

flip_fan
06-16-2006, 10:23 PM
I think a lot of pathetic decisions were made today. Roger Draper said that WC should only be given to players that can win at least 1 round. Okay, we give 1 to Bogdanovic, Baker and Bloomfield straight off. They stand a chance but won't win a match :rolleyes:

We then give one to Delgado who won the Wildcard Play-off...fair does. He performs quite well on grass and earned it.

HOWEVER, we then give 2 to Mackin and Lee, despite the fact they LOST in the WC play-off. I have a problem with them going against Roger Draper's wishes...but I think both do in fact deserve WCs...Mackin is a fighter and Lee has come back strongly from 3 years of injuries.

BUT to give Flip a WC after a reversal of decision is stupid. Yeah he may win a match but he has proved time and time again that he is a waste of time and space.

Maybe so in other tournaments... but so far not at wimbledon. He hasnt lost 1st round since 1997. He was in a shit awful form in 2004 but still got to 4th round. I dont get the big drama... fair enough other tounrmaents where his presvious records are shit - but wimbledon is the one tournament where he has been most consistant. Blame the other tournaments for giving him a WC which was unwarrented - but i think this one is the right decision.

almouchie
06-16-2006, 10:27 PM
i thought he was given a wc
it would be wasted tbh
he needs matches
if he is ever to make a good run he has to play
on grass is probably the only place he can win a few matches
after this year he has to make a decision about his career

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Flip has brought this criticism upon himself after blowing WC after WC, but in the All-England Lawn and Tennis Club's defense, Flip has had a lot of success here before and that might be worth something. He played a couple of really good matches here last year as well. I don't think most people realize this, but Flip has more single's victories at Wimbledon than any current player other than Andre Agassi and Tim Henman.

Scotso
06-17-2006, 12:51 AM
what a joke :rolleyes:

keqtqiadv
06-17-2006, 01:15 AM
Time to change the name of the thread :p

*Viva Chile*
06-17-2006, 01:47 AM
Good decision IMO

Flip will not playing like an ATP pro never more. He's just a part-time player since 2 and a half years ago.

keqtqiadv
06-17-2006, 01:51 AM
Good decision IMO

Flip will not playing like an ATP pro never more. He's just a part-time player since 2 and a half years ago.
That's why the thread name needs to be changed. :p

Fee
06-17-2006, 01:58 AM
On paper, this looks like a horrible decision, but Mark has played well at Wimbledon in the past so maybe his previous record combined with his play at Queen's this week and a few fan phone calls swayed the committee at the AELTC. Whatever, its done now and all we can do is sit back and see what he does with it. Personally, I've learned recently that when it comes to male Aussie tennis players of Greek heritage who wear Nike clothes, it's better to ignore whatever they say and just look at their results. Results always speak for themselves.

Good luck Mark, stay healthy, play well. And after this, please play Challengers where you belong and earn your way back. :)

JeNn
06-17-2006, 02:07 AM
With a decent draw, I wouldnt be surprised to see him atleast in the Round of 32.

new-york
06-17-2006, 02:10 AM
Well, Hopefully he'll do well. I was kinda between the "let him try to qualify & get some match" & the "oh yeah give him a WC, he already did well".
More for the first option.

Mimi
06-17-2006, 02:38 AM
why? he was a finalist 3 years ago, and he always play good on wimby :sad: :sad:

robrulz5
06-17-2006, 03:59 AM
He should go through qualifiying.

L James
06-17-2006, 04:29 AM
You heard Flip in the press conference this week. He said he was ready to go to the qualifying draw and said he could understand why he didn't get a wildcard because he hasn't been winning matches. But they gave him one anyway. You can't blame The Scud for accepting a free entry into his favourite tournament and a Grand Slam.

Kristen
06-17-2006, 04:43 AM
Someone might need to explain the Grosjean post. I hate it when people talk in code/sms language :lol:

At least he won a couple of matches lately...against people we have heard of. I think he's been given more Wildcards than necessary in recent years, but it's nice that they decide to keep giving him a chance, and if it's only Wimbledon that keep offering them to him, I don't mind so much. Qualifying would have been good though.

Allez
06-17-2006, 06:36 AM
Lil Flip keeps dreaming of doing a Goran @ Wimbledon. That's why he keeps coming back and is still playing on the tour. Don't think it will happen. I'm actually happy he's been given a WC even though he's had zillions of WCs already. I like seeing him play on grass. I'm sure he'll win a few matches as long as the draw is kind to him.

Fee
06-17-2006, 06:51 AM
:spit: Ohmygawd. :haha: Marry me? :inlove:


:kiss: ;)

*Viva Chile*
06-17-2006, 07:31 AM
I don't understand anything :shrug:
Did Wimbledon give the WC to Flip finally? yes or no??? :confused:

Monteque
06-17-2006, 10:09 AM
Updated.
WC have given to 8 players:
1. Mark Philippoussis
2. AAndrei Pavel
3. Alex Bogdanovic
4. Richard Bloomfield
5. Jamie Baker
6. Jamie Delgado
7. Martin Lee
8. Alan Mackin

Mark once again get the fallin star. He should prove it he deserved for this. But actually i never heard players no 4-8, so at least mark could be the strongest wild card player after Pavel.

Scotso
06-17-2006, 02:47 PM
Philipsporpoises will need to die before they stop granting
ze wild card to diz most undeserving sponge and vulture.

*A bulb lightz above ze Grosjeanz head*

*Donz hiz black gloves*

*Grabs knife*

Ah monsewer, thy reign of wild card terror endz here...

:lol: love the accent :yeah:

Scotso
06-17-2006, 02:50 PM
Updated.
WC have given to 8 players:
1. Mark Philippoussis
2. AAndrei Pavel
3. Alex Bogdanovic
4. Richard Bloomfield
5. Jamie Baker
6. Jamie Delgado
7. Martin Lee
8. Alan Mackin

Mark once again get the fallin star. He should prove it he deserved for this. But actually i never heard players no 4-8, so at least mark could be the strongest wild card player after Pavel.

You've never heard of Richie? You will when he wins Wimbledon this year :bounce: :worship: ;)

Scotso
06-17-2006, 02:51 PM
British quartet handed SW19 spots
Britain's Jamie Delgado, Alan Mackin, Martin Lee and Naomi Cavaday, and former finalist Mark Philippoussis have all been given Wimbledon wildcards.
Delgado and Cavaday earned their spots after winning wildcard play-off competitions at Raynes Park.

But the All England Club has also given places to beaten finalist Mackin and losing semi-finalist Lee.

The move has been criticised by Lawn Tennis Association chief executive Roger Draper.

Draper is adamant home-grown players should not benefit from a leg-up into the comparatively lucrative first round if their ranking is not considered to deem them worthy.

"It is disappointing to see some of the further wildcards that have been handed to British players today," he said.

"The LTA advised the All England Club to limit the number handed out. We feel additional lucky loser wildcards do not help in creating a winning culture in British tennis.

"Good luck to all British players at Wimbledon - but in future years the LTA will work closely with the All England Club to establish a water-tight system that rewards winners and potential future winners."

Delgado beat Alan Mackin 3-6 6-3 6-4 in the men's final after earlier beating second seed Lee, while Cavaday beat British number five Jane O'Donoghue 2-6 6-4 6-4.

"I didn't play my best tennis today but I've played well all week," said Cavaday.

"I'm delighted. This was a really tough week for me and the standard was really high," she added.

The 17-year-old from Kent, ranked 536 in the world, will be joined in the women's main draw by fellow Britons Anne Keothavong, Katie O'Brien, Sarah Borwell, and Melanie South.

Their compatriots Alex Bogdanovic, Richard Bloomfield and Jamie Baker will compete in the men's draw.

The final two wildcards went to 2003 finalist Philippoussis and to Andrei Pavel.

This Draper fellow sounds like a real self-hating assclown. He doesn't want any Brits to get WCs. Sad, sad. I'm so mad that Azarenka and that Polish girl got WCs rather than Jane. :rolleyes: Jane has been the only Brit to win matches at Wimbledon in consecutive years and they reward her by shafting her. :rolleyes: Way to reward success, idiot.

Monteque
06-17-2006, 04:29 PM
WTF, I SWEAR BY THE GOD I'M THE ONE WHO CREATED THIS THREAD but why my first post is lost and this thread become mr_burns' thread???
What the hell? please someone tell me why, Is it error or sabotage??
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Fee
06-17-2006, 04:33 PM
Looks like the two threads were combined.

Monteque
06-17-2006, 04:40 PM
Guys, this is not funny. How can they do this??? When I'm created this one that noone create about Phillipoussis before. And they delete my first post and change the name thread starter to another name but the title still mine.
Who the one i should complain to?

Fee
06-17-2006, 04:41 PM
Your first post is still there, its just the 9th post now. Threads get combined all the time around here. Why are you upset?

Monteque
06-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Thanks Fee for the info.
And i think this is kind thing of sabotage firstly.
I'm just upset that the title is mine why should not my name to be listed in the thread and I made this one different subject than mr_burns.
This is first time to me so yeah....i'm understand now but still.... this sucks :( .

Maybe i should to make similar thread to others so i'll take charge another when they combine it to be one thread.

Fee
06-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Well, its not sabotage, more like 'housekeeping' but I understand why it bothers you. The two don't really blend together that well, do they.

Timariot
06-18-2006, 12:54 AM
Lil Flip keeps dreaming of doing a Goran @ Wimbledon.

Mind you, when Goran was given a wild card in 2001, he thanked the organizers by beating Rusedski and Henman along the way to victory.

History to repeat itself? Watch out, Murray and Tim... :devil:

zethand
06-18-2006, 01:07 AM
Philippoussis has bad karma he will lost in first!

amierin
06-18-2006, 04:43 AM
Second round tops.

The Pro
06-18-2006, 11:22 AM
I'd give Mark one any day.

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