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How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

Langers
06-16-2006, 05:45 AM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis? I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.

Action Jackson
06-16-2006, 05:46 AM
Thanks for bringing some diversity to the board.

tripb19
06-16-2006, 05:48 AM
GWH, what's the translation of Johansson's quote in your signature?

Action Jackson
06-16-2006, 05:52 AM
GWH, what's the translation of Johansson's quote in your signature?

It will cost you $$$$$ for me to give out this info.

tripb19
06-16-2006, 05:55 AM
It will cost you $$$$$ for me to give out this info.
:lol:

Luckily I've got a couple of Swedes on MSN.

Action Jackson
06-16-2006, 05:58 AM
:lol:

Luckily I've got a couple of Swedes on MSN.

It basically says there will never be another generation like this.

admiralpye
06-16-2006, 06:11 AM
Davydenko is another conundrum in the Top Ten. An unbelievable player, but no Grand Slam yet. Still he seems immovable in his spot right now.

Langers
06-16-2006, 06:14 AM
Davydenko is another conundrum in the Top Ten. An unbelievable player, but no Grand Slam yet. Still he seems immovable in his spot right now.
Daveydenko is another one of these good players, but not quite up to the standard of winning a GS. He doesnít have any real strengths other than his ability to return everything.

Volley Art
06-16-2006, 06:21 AM
Uh... there's only four majors in a year. There are a lot of people in the top ten that never hold up one of those trophies. The #8 guy ain't going to be winning a whole lot of Grand Slam events.

On Ljubicic, he strikes me as this year's Jiri Novak. Unassuming, steady, sneaks up on you and is playing at the TMC at the end of the year. I don't see him as a long-term presence in the Top 5.

jenanun
06-16-2006, 06:29 AM
didnt he say he feels like a no.2 player, or something like that? :haha:

apart from his serve, he has nothing special....

Kristen
06-16-2006, 06:38 AM
This will sound dumb, but... why should winning a Grand Slam be the be all and end all?
It would be nice, but I'd prefer to be consistent and improve my game, picking up titles where I can. Then again, I don't play tennis because I loathe it and am so poor at it. But, it doesn't make me any less qualified than the other mtf experts :lol:

I am neutral on Ljubicic. I can think of other crap #4s. Unless doubles slams count, how bad was Jonas Bjorkman! Oh man!!!

Scotso
06-16-2006, 06:41 AM
I think I'd rather win a slam, Kristen :p

Kristen
06-16-2006, 06:44 AM
In hindsight... yes I think you're right. For me personally, if I could get that stupid ball into that microscopic square (judging by my talent, it IS that small) when I serve.

Yeah, I think Thomas Johansson is pretty chuffed to have a slam under his belt :yeah:

Daniel25
06-16-2006, 07:52 AM
I think Ljubicic is a great player. You don't become number 4 out of the blue. He has won a lot of tournaments lately or reaching finals. That means that you are a good player and deserve to be up there at the top. Great serve, beautiful backhand (not as good as Federer, but still...)The GS may be a mental thing for him, but maybe he can change that at Wimbledon. I hope so for him, because besides being a good player, he is a nice person (although that is what I think)

kindablue
06-16-2006, 08:26 AM
Go Ljubo!!!!

ezekiel
06-16-2006, 08:38 AM
he is probably one of the hardest workers and that's why he has blossomed in the last year or so.

Norrage
06-16-2006, 08:43 AM
And he takes the game more seriously than literally all other players on the tour...Playing the game isn't the only thing that's needed to get to the top...Ljubicic is one of the most professional tennis players of the entire tour.

croman
06-16-2006, 08:54 AM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis? I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.

You are crazy.Ivan just doesn't like to play on dirty things.Grass and clay.But he proved that he can do well on clay.He was in semis at Rg.And in Wimby he will do well,too.You are a total idiot,We will see how he is bad,when the hardcourt will come.And then he will destroy everyone.HE IS A TOP 5 FOR A REASON.HE IS NOT A TOP 10 TURIST.HE IS IN TOP 10- 28 consusetive (bad spell sorry) weeks.WHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT,THERE IS NOW TENNIS PLAYER IN THE WORLD HOW CAN BE BAD AND BE IN TOP 5 OR TOP 10.kARLOVIC HAS A FANTASTIC SERVE ,BUT HE ISN'T IN TOP 50,AT ALL.IVAN HAS A LOT OF THING, HE HAS A REPERTOAR OF SHOTS AND THAT'S THE REASON HE IS TOP5 AND HE WILL BE FOR A LONG TIME.and sorry,I can speak english wery well,but I'm not that well in typing

croman
06-16-2006, 08:59 AM
I think Ljubicic is a great player. You don't become number 4 out of the blue. He has won a lot of tournaments lately or reaching finals. That means that you are a good player and deserve to be up there at the top. Great serve, beautiful backhand (not as good as Federer, but still...)The GS may be a mental thing for him, but maybe he can change that at Wimbledon. I hope so for him, because besides being a good player, he is a nice person (although that is what I think)

that's write.I agree.Daniel25 you are one of smart guys in forum.I sayed that because there are very little smart persons in this forum.AJMO IVAN!!!MA KO JEBE TE BUDALE NEK PRIČAJU äTA HOĆE MI ZNAMO DA SI TI NAJBOLJI!!!!

supersexynadal
06-16-2006, 10:13 AM
Theres a diference between, Ljubicic and nalbandian, davydenko,gaudio, gonzalez, hewitt, and more. The only time i saw ljubicic play well was in the last few matches in madrid. Since then i havent seen an amazing match from him. Davydenko, always an exciting player, should have a better chance of winning a GS. In my mind, gaudio and gonzalez are smarter players eventhough they might not be winning as much as ljubo is. When he has trouble serving, there is no match! He just loses his game plan and tries to stay in the rally.
Mauresmo-best woman to have never won a grandslam
Ljubicic-worst player to have ever been number 4!

stebs
06-16-2006, 11:20 AM
His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright

His backhand is one of the best on tour and his serve is the best on tour so long as you discount people who are 6'10.

Winston's Human
06-16-2006, 11:31 AM
If Ivan is ranked #4 it is based off of his results over the last year and how they compare to the results of the other players. He earned his ranking like everyone else, and it's neither his fault nor his concern that the "countless players that are superior" aren't posting results to compete with his own. It's not even like all of these countless superior players are suffering from injuries, either (and even if they were, that's sport, and crap happens).

Frankly, considering how many players start to wane or have long been on a steady decline when they reach the relatively advanced tennis age of 27, I think it's fabulous that Ivan can post such results and maintain such a ranking at this time. He deserves his ranking like everyone else.

Very well said!

dmit424
06-16-2006, 12:24 PM
Unfortunately, it's simply time for Ljubicic to get banned from tennis/television.

Andre♥
06-16-2006, 12:41 PM
Ljubicic only serve???

Please stop following the scoreboards and watch some tennis on tv...

Horatio Caine
06-16-2006, 12:46 PM
didnt he say he feels like a no.2 player, or something like that? :haha:

You have to excuse him...Jerry S had probably drugged him :rolleyes:

I've just seen Monfils hit the shot of the tournament after a superb rally with Ljubo at the net...and all Ljubo does is glare at him. :rolleyes:

He should have shaken his hand it was that damn good :lol:

sawan66278
06-16-2006, 02:23 PM
The worst player ranked #4? Not by a long shot! The worst player ranked #4 (#3 at one point, right behind Lendl and Edberg I believe) was....BRAD GILBERT!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Check it out...I believe the year was either 87 and 88!!!

Hola Mr. SK
06-16-2006, 02:35 PM
he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.
someone who pays great effort to earn his ranking and is effectively the 4th best player in rankings is called pathetic?
Again someone pls enlighten me how to use the word pathetic? :help:

JadexD
06-16-2006, 03:30 PM
I think Ivan Ljubicic is a great player, maybe not the most "pure talent" kind but a very hardworker and it's paying off. He's just a late bloomer and he has made a lot of accomplishments lately. He certainly deserves to be where he is--at number 4. Name me a better candidate. I mean how many people can actually hold up GS trophies...especially when Fed is winning 2-3/year? Considering his history and childhood and all, I think it's very impressive for him to accomplish so much.

rexman
06-16-2006, 05:18 PM
As is the phrase "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

nkhera1
06-16-2006, 05:34 PM
You are crazy.Ivan just doesn't like to play on dirty things.Grass and clay.But he proved that he can do well on clay.He was in semis at Rg.And in Wimby he will do well,too.You are a total idiot,We will see how he is bad,when the hardcourt will come.And then he will destroy everyone.HE IS A TOP 5 FOR A REASON.HE IS NOT A TOP 10 TURIST.HE IS IN TOP 10- 28 consusetive (bad spell sorry) weeks.WHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT,THERE IS NOW TENNIS PLAYER IN THE WORLD HOW CAN BE BAD AND BE IN TOP 5 OR TOP 10.kARLOVIC HAS A FANTASTIC SERVE ,BUT HE ISN'T IN TOP 50,AT ALL.IVAN HAS A LOT OF THING, HE HAS A REPERTOAR OF SHOTS AND THAT'S THE REASON HE IS TOP5 AND HE WILL BE FOR A LONG TIME.and sorry,I can speak english wery well,but I'm not that well in typing

While I don't accept the fact that Ljubicic is the worst #4 ever, his RG draw was extremely easy. He hardest opponent was ranked 80. Now I know you can only beat the players you have in front of you but I think Ljubicic needs to prove that he can get to the semis while facing quality opponents.

*Ljubica*
06-16-2006, 05:45 PM
I'm not a particular fan of Ljubicic (I personally just don't like the big serving style) - but to say that he is "pathetic" and will never achieve anything is- well - rather a pathetic comment in my opinion :rolleyes:

As J'torian so rightly said - he earned is ranking, and if all these other "superior" players are below him in the rankings it's because he has achieved better results than them in the previous year. That is not his fault so why diss him for it?

Ivan is a hard worker - not just on court but in his off-court work as well. He overcame great odds in his childhood, living through horrors in the Balkan War that most people here could not imagine - so rather than saying he will "never achieve anything substantial" - I happen to think he has achieved more than most people already, and is a credit to his family and his country to have overcome these odds and become such a dedicated professional.

And as for your comments about his serve being only "occasionally alright" and his backhand "isn't bad" - well I'm sorry Langers - but it seems you know very little about tennis :rolleyes:

stebs
06-16-2006, 05:47 PM
I'm not a particular fan of Ljubicic (I personally just don't like the big serving style) - but to say that he is "pathetic" and will never achieve anything is- well - rather a pathetic comment in my opinion :rolleyes:

As J'torian so rightly said - he earned is ranking, and if all these other "superior" players are below him in the rankings it's because he has achieved better results than them in the previous year. That is not his fault so why diss him for it?

Ivan is a hard worker - not just on court but in his off-court work as well. He overcame great odds in his childhood, living through horrors in the Balkan War that most people here could not imagine - so rather than saying he will "never achieve anything substantial" - I happen to think he has achieved more than most people already, and is a credit to his family and his country to have overcome these odds and become such a dedicated professional.

And as for your comments about his serve being only "occasionally alright" and his backhand "isn't bad" - well I'm sorry Langers - but it seems you know very little about tennis :rolleyes:

Exactly what I wanted to say :worship: :wavey:

*Ljubica*
06-16-2006, 05:49 PM
Exactly what I wanted to say :worship: :wavey:
Great minds think alike :hug: ;)

Jogy
06-16-2006, 06:07 PM
I dislike Ljubicic and hope he is losing every match (exception to Federer), but I think he is not worse as other big servers. He did the most now with getting #4 of world. Ancic also good at moment, Croats can't complain.

LoveFifteen
06-16-2006, 08:00 PM
I think I'd rather win a slam, Kristen :p

Yeah, but then you win a Slam, and people just hate on you and call you a One Slam wonder. You just can't ever achieve enough in hater's eyes.

Jimnik
06-16-2006, 08:15 PM
In the modern era, there's so much strength in depth that there isn't much difference between players ranked 4 and 40. The top two are so far ahead but the others are very close. Many people believe that Ljubicic, Davydenko and a few others don't deserve to be in the top 10 when they compare with previous top 10s. But making these comparisons is never really fair. Sometimes you have 7 or 8 tennis legends playing at the same time and sometimes you only have 2 or 3. As it happens, we only have 2 or 3 at the moment.

Black Adam
06-16-2006, 08:23 PM
He has got a big serve and a big mouth (sore loser) ;)

BlakeorHenman
06-16-2006, 09:10 PM
I think a big reason he IS number four is luck of the draw. He has never had to play top players in the first two or three rounds like somebody like Olivier Rochus has. I think he is the player above all that is the most undeserved of his ranking. However, I think his deserved ranking is 10-15, and that isnt shabby.

Fee
06-17-2006, 02:09 AM
Yeah, that Davis Cup trophy, such a small accomplishment for any player. Obviously he's a total pretender who is only in the top 5 because every one else went to Hawaii that week.

I thought Tommy Haas was the worst #4 ever?

Skyward
06-17-2006, 02:25 AM
I thought Tommy Haas was the worst #4 ever?

#2?

eddie_hyden
06-17-2006, 02:29 AM
I'm not a particular fan of Ljubicic (I personally just don't like the big serving style) - but to say that he is "pathetic" and will never achieve anything is- well - rather a pathetic comment in my opinion :rolleyes:

As J'torian so rightly said - he earned is ranking, and if all these other "superior" players are below him in the rankings it's because he has achieved better results than them in the previous year. That is not his fault so why diss him for it?

Ivan is a hard worker - not just on court but in his off-court work as well. He overcame great odds in his childhood, living through horrors in the Balkan War that most people here could not imagine - so rather than saying he will "never achieve anything substantial" - I happen to think he has achieved more than most people already, and is a credit to his family and his country to have overcome these odds and become such a dedicated professional.

And as for your comments about his serve being only "occasionally alright" and his backhand "isn't bad" - well I'm sorry Langers - but it seems you know very little about tennis :rolleyes:


being a hardworker hardly erase the fact that he's bad on court and have attitude problem...

imho...

Mimi
06-17-2006, 02:32 AM
i think he is bad on his mouth :mad: , its him who brought out the nadal taking too much time on serving issue, and now lead to nadal being attacked all the times, the bad empire even warned him before he started the match at Stella yesterday, this is not fair, and this for sure will affect his moods during matches :mad: :mad:

azmad_88
06-17-2006, 05:11 AM
i dont like his attitude when he looses a match

El Legenda
06-17-2006, 06:00 AM
Langers is an idiot

El Legenda
06-17-2006, 06:01 AM
I think a big reason he IS number four is luck of the draw. He has never had to play top players in the first two or three rounds like somebody like Olivier Rochus has. I think he is the player above all that is the most undeserved of his ranking. However, I think his deserved ranking is 10-15, and that isnt shabby.

Blake has not won a match vs Ivan 0-4 so BLAKE SUCKS
I WIN YOU LOSE
also Henman is 1-4 vs Ivan

I win again, you suck again

Bad Religion
06-17-2006, 06:32 AM
I donīt know why Ivan was number 3 of the world.

A shame for the mens tennis and sign of weakness of the ATP

kronus12
06-17-2006, 07:08 AM
Ljubicic would have a better record in tourney if he didn't meet federer 4-5 times in the finals last year not bad for a pathetic player.
He deserves his place only reason some ppl think he doesn't deserve it because they don't like him.

supersexynadal
06-17-2006, 10:25 AM
Blake has not won a match vs Ivan 0-4 so BLAKE SUCKS
I WIN YOU LOSE
also Henman is 1-4 vs Ivan

I win again, you suck again
Blake did get to more finals and won more titles than Ivan and AT LEAST he knows that its hard to beat nadal and federer! I really dont get it when ivan says he has the weapons! He ha sthe weapons to bore the hell out of a tennis match. My friends were watching nadal ljubicic and they dont watch tennis often. WHat a BAD first impression ljubo gives. Watching golf is moe interesting than watching ljubo

supersexynadal
06-17-2006, 10:29 AM
Ivan will never win a grandslam!! Or a masters series EVEN WHEN nadal and federer AND NALBANDIAN arent playing!

croman
06-17-2006, 10:47 AM
Langers is an idiot

That's apsolutely true

croman
06-17-2006, 10:49 AM
Ivan will never win a grandslam!! Or a masters series EVEN WHEN nadal and federer AND NALBANDIAN arent playing!

You are an big idiot,too!!! :nerner: :nerner:

croman
06-17-2006, 10:50 AM
i think he is bad on his mouth :mad: , its him who brought out the nadal taking too much time on serving issue, and now lead to nadal being attacked all the times, the bad empire even warned him before he started the match at Stella yesterday, this is not fair, and this for sure will affect his moods during matches :mad: :mad:

Oh,I'm so glad. :) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

croman
06-17-2006, 10:51 AM
I donīt know why Ivan was number 3 of the world.

A shame for the mens tennis and sign of weakness of the ATP

you don't know anything about tennis.You are a shame of menstennisforums.com

Yergeht Fladnag
06-17-2006, 12:19 PM
While I don't accept the fact that Ljubicic is the worst #4 ever, his RG draw was extremely easy. He hardest opponent was ranked 80. Now I know you can only beat the players you have in front of you but I think Ljubicic needs to prove that he can get to the semis while facing quality opponents.
What about indoor season last year? "Extremely easy" draws with no "quality opponents"... :rolleyes: ;)

Metz, France
International Series, 3-Oct-05, I, Hard , Draw: 32

R32 Acasuso, Jose (ARG) 58 7-6(2) 6-3
R16 Santoro, Fabrice (FRA) 80 4-6 6-1 7-6(3)
Q Soderling, Robin (SWE) 43 6-7(6) 6-3 6-4
S Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS) 7 6-1 6-4
W Monfils, Gael (FRA) 45 7-6(7) 6-0

Vienna, Austria
International Series Gold, 10-Oct-05, I, Hard , Draw: 32

R32 Calleri, Agustin (ARG) 61 6-4 6-3
R16 Haas, Tommy (GER) 40 6-3 6-4
Q Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 20 6-3 7-5
S Robredo, Tommy (ESP) 18 7-6(5) 6-4
W Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP) 22 6-2 6-4 7-6(5)

ATP Masters Series Madrid, Spain
Tennis Masters Series, 17-Oct-05, I, Hard , Draw: 48

R64 Bye, () N/A
R32 Martin, Alberto (ESP) 54 6-3 7-6(7)
R16 Rochus, Olivier (BEL) 24 6-4 6-4
Q Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 19 4-6 7-6(2) 6-4
S Nalbandian, David (ARG) 9 6-3 3-6 6-3
F Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 2 6-3 6-2 3-6 4-6 6-7(3)

ATP Masters Series Paris, France
Tennis Masters Series, 31-Oct-05, I, Carpet , Draw: 48

R64 Bye, () 0
R32 Blake, James (USA) 24 6-3 6-4
R16 Johansson, Thomas (SWE) 15 6-3 7-6(4)
Q Robredo, Tommy (ESP) 21 7-6(6) 3-6 6-1
S Roddick, Andy (USA) 3 6-3 7-5
F Berdych, Tomas (CZE) 50 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-4 4-6

Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.
Did any of those "countless players" play last October? :devil:

disturb3d
06-17-2006, 03:09 PM
Blake has not won a match vs Ivan 0-4 so BLAKE SUCKS
I WIN YOU LOSE
also Henman is 1-4 vs Ivan

I win again, you suck againYou've got your hands down Ivan's pants all day long.
If that's not loser qualification, then shieeeet.

eddie_hyden
06-17-2006, 03:20 PM
Except we're talking about whether or not a certain player has put in the hard work and posted the results required to earn or "deserve" his ranking. Personality judgments are a separate matter.

really? i was under the impression the 1st post talked about his pathetic court achievements..who cares whether he's hardworking or not when he can't show the result. tennis is after all on the court game.

El Legenda
06-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Blake did get to more finals and won more titles than Ivan

really, want to make a bet on that? :retard:

both have 5 titles
Ivan has 8 finals and Blake has 5, of Ivans 8, 3 were AMS finals, Blake 1

I WIN, YOU SUCK

AgassiDomination
06-17-2006, 06:03 PM
Langers is an idiot

That's apsolutely true

You are an big idiot,too!!! :nerner: :nerner:

you don't know anything about tennis.You are a shame of menstennisforums.com
Constructive criticism at its finest.

guille&tati4life
06-17-2006, 06:21 PM
I don't much like Ljubo but he is a quality player, i'd say he deserves to be top 4 in the world.

oz_boz
06-17-2006, 06:33 PM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis?
How about Gilbert, BjŲrkman, ...

I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average.
There are many No. 4 who didn't win a GS, and that were closer to average, even if that is a stupid word to use about a guy who basically is the favourite against anyone bar Fed and Nadal.

He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career.
OK, maybe not a superb result.

His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright,
his SERVE can be ALRIGHT? Understatement of the week.

but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career.
Well, he has had some good last 12 months hasn't he? At least according to the rankings, but of course rankings always lie.

Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.
Please name five players who have a lower ranking but you consider superior. I'm really curious.

elang
06-17-2006, 08:42 PM
What makes me dislike him is not the fact that he never win a slam, it's what he said :"I think all we can do is to reach the finals and then be beaten by Roger." He don't have a heart of champion. He doesn't deserve any respect from the word out of his mouth.

elang
06-17-2006, 08:56 PM
I mean how many people can actually hold up GS trophies...especially when Fed is winning 2-3/year?

I'll say Fed win 2-3/year because other people don't win. Not the reverse.

Skyward
06-17-2006, 09:18 PM
I'll say Fed win 2-3/year because other people don't win. Not the reverse.

Welcome to the board. I can tell that you'll be a breath of fresh air.

elang
06-17-2006, 09:42 PM
Welcome to the board. I can tell that you'll be a breath of fresh air.

Thank you.

Skyward
06-17-2006, 11:29 PM
Thank you.

I forgot the smile http://bestsmileys.com/lol/17.gif

Doctor Dance
06-17-2006, 11:35 PM
He is not a bad player, the opposite but maybe this poster means fact that he is number 4 in the world shows how poor the ATP is apart from Federer and Nadal

anserq
06-18-2006, 12:20 AM
lol, interesting

Blue Orange
06-18-2006, 12:34 AM
He is not a bad player, the opposite but maybe this poster means fact that he is number 4 in the world shows how poor the ATP is apart from Federer and Nadal

That Fed has managed to accumulate an insane amount of points has made getting higher rankings that much easier. For example... Gaudio has some 1745 points at the moment for tenth, five years ago Rafter was tenth with 2185 which would have placed him at 7th barely off 6th this week.

Ivan has a pretty average point total for 4th but a lot of those have came from events in which Federer or Nadal did not compete. Also, not sure if this point has been made, but looking at his activity for this year he has only defeated one other top ten player (Nalbandian at Miami) in an ATP tournament which is pretty poor for a top five player.

Il Primo Uomo
06-18-2006, 01:51 AM
This player just has nothing special..He's useless to the tour. No Charisma. No attrative game. No class. Just big mouth and foolish declarations like:I'm considering myself as the number one behind Federer on carpet" :retard:

Apemant
06-18-2006, 03:46 PM
What makes me dislike him is not the fact that he never win a slam, it's what he said :"I think all we can do is to reach the finals and then be beaten by Roger." He don't have a heart of champion. He doesn't deserve any respect from the word out of his mouth.

Interesting, but that very thing makes me like him. Not everyone is born to be a champion. For example, you, me and 99% of people here and most tennis professionals will never be champions of anything, unless I'm terribly mistaken.

One thing does amaze me: when he openly admits that he doesn't believe he can beat Fedex, you dislike him. But when he does believe in himself vs. other people, namely David or Rafael, you turn the story around and use it to bash him again. Really classy. Either way, he sucks (according to you and similar guys/gals).

But what makes him like that? Well, if you give it just a little thought, the answer is obvious: Ljubo = lesser Fedex. There's almost nothing Ljubo can do, that Fedex can't do better. Serve is probably the only such thing, and even there Fedex is quite adept. Everything else, from forehand to court movement and reflexes, are either on Fedex' side, or about equal (backhand?). And Ljubo, being a smart guy, certainly realizes that. So how do you beat a guy if he can match your array of weapons with improved versions of all those weapons? The reality is harsh: Ljubo can beat Fedex if and only if Fedex gives a sub-par performance. And would it be good sportmanship if you wanted your opponent to play badly?

With David and Rafael, the story is fundamentally different. While both of them are clearly superior to Ljubo in many fields, they can't just match him weapon for weapon, as Ljubo demonstrated against Nalbo on several occasions, and against Nadal only in first 2 sets of Madrid. So, when you look at it from that viewpoint, Ljubo's remarks are certainly quite sound.

Sometimes I get this nasty feeling that the only real reason for bashing Ljubo is because he is bald. It sounds pathetic, I see that, but 'reasons' some people provide for disliking him are just :retard:

El Legenda
06-18-2006, 03:51 PM
This player just has nothing special..He's useless to the tour. No Charisma. No attrative game. No class. Just big mouth and foolish declarations like:I'm considering myself as the number one behind Federer on carpet" :retard:

you're a HUGE :retard: and really mad that you're piss poor life will never come close to Ivan's

supersexynadal
06-18-2006, 04:30 PM
really, want to make a bet on that? :retard:

both have 5 titles
Ivan has 8 finals and Blake has 5, of Ivans 8, 3 were AMS finals, Blake 1

I WIN, YOU SUCK

And look who he beat on the way to these finals and who he LOST TOO! Federer and nadal, duh they beat him. Thomas Berdych?Yea, he lost to that guy. Hes a great player but hes not number four. It was on hard court and at that time, Berdych wasnt moving well at all. Even his coach said it after the match. Rg semis, didnt even play a seeded player and beat the unseeded with difficulty. So basically he just had a lucky draw. And not only that, but he is a SORE LOSER. All the speeches he makes when he loses in a final are so sad fake. The guy hardly moves on court and doesnt have a back up game plan. Hes not a natural.

nkhera1
06-18-2006, 05:55 PM
What about indoor season last year? "Extremely easy" draws with no "quality opponents"... :rolleyes: ;)


I was referring to Grand Slams. His best results have occured this year ever in Grand Slams but I would like to see how he handles the pressure when he has to go up against good players earlier than the semis.

Minotaur
06-18-2006, 05:55 PM
This player just has nothing special..He's useless to the tour. No Charisma. No attrative game. No class. Just big mouth and foolish declarations like:I'm considering myself as the number one behind Federer on carpet" :retard:

And you talk about Davis cup captain and the player that very much contributed to championship of Croatia in this cup in 2005.

He also destroyed Agassi on american hard courts in 3 sets in 2005. Which not many people were able to do.

He is also (with Ancic) bronze medalist in Athens olympics.

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 06:34 PM
You know, the funny thing is, everyone complains about the vociferous Croatian contingent on this board and in particular the erstwhile Ducky, but every time I begin to think they're too extreme another one of these cretinous, ignorant threads pops up and I go right back to supporting them.

I get the feeling that many people are personally offended by the fact that a player who serves big and doesn't show any emotion has the temerity to become no. 4 in the world, by daring to win four optional titles, reach three TMS finals, a Slam QF and then a Slam SF. Doesn't he realise that repetitive fist-pumps and ace counts in single figures are ESSENTIAL requirements for every prospective Top 5 player? Pity Karlovic was injured this week, if he had been fit enough to play and make a deep run in Queens then doubtless he would have been nominated as the man who is ruining tennis this week, as opposed to his higher-ranked and far more talented compatriot.

How on earth anyone can call Ljubicic the dullest player in a Top 10 with Davydenko and Robredo, both pure beige in tennis-playing form, is beyond me.

tennismaster882001
06-18-2006, 06:36 PM
This is such a funny thread! It must be a joke!

Black Adam
06-18-2006, 06:43 PM
He is not part of the great, thrilling, beloved top 4 of the past, that is Federer, Roddick, Hewitt and Safin(Very handsome Foursome for the teenyboppers). Ljubo made his way into a top 4 he doesn't belong and which he crapens with his presence. The other 3 are :yeah: But ljubo???Gimme a break.

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 06:46 PM
^ Exhibit A.

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 06:50 PM
^ Exhibit A.
missed ya ;)

ExpectedWinner
06-18-2006, 06:58 PM
Rarely people have a lot of respect for late bloomers like Ivan. Add here his on court demeanor+ the absence of political correctness+ may be average ?looks(I'm not an expert in this), and here we go- threads like this keep popping up.

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 06:59 PM
missed ya ;)

I was supposed to be absent from here until Wimbledon, but the allure of MTF proved too much for me.... and the allure of your good self, naturally. ;)

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:02 PM
I was supposed to be absent from here until Wimbledon, but the allure of MTF proved too much for me.... and the allure of your good self, naturally. ;)
Geez I don't really wish to disturb in another brilliant thread about relevant features of Ljubicic and if he's worse or better than Henman, according to Jez, but I haven't seen you for couple of weeks so I just need to ask how's life going and aren't you watching the football world cup because England sucks as usual, still winning nevertheless, and it's worth seeing though.

Apemant
06-18-2006, 07:06 PM
^ Exhibit A.

:devil: :haha:

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 07:19 PM
Geez I don't really wish to disturb in another brilliant thread about relevant features of Ljubicic and if he's worse or better than Henman, according to Jez, but I haven't seen you for couple of weeks so I just need to ask how's life going and aren't you watching the football world cup because England sucks as usual, still winning nevertheless, and it's worth seeing though.

Life is good, but I am in summer limbo waiting for graduation. The World Cup is enjoyable indeed, and I am looking forward to more negative press headlines and public whining following our penalty defeat in the weeks to come.

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:23 PM
Life is good, but I am in summer limbo waiting for graduation. The World Cup is enjoyable indeed, and I am looking forward to more negative press headlines and public whining following our penalty defeat in the weeks to come.
What kind of school are you in with a graduation at the age of 21 :confused:

I have my exams postponed till September... but it would be just finishing second year out of five at uni :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
06-18-2006, 07:24 PM
Life is good, but I am in summer limbo waiting for graduation. The World Cup is enjoyable indeed, and I am looking forward to more negative press headlines and public whining following our penalty defeat in the weeks to come.

We won't last R2 :haha: :haha:

But otherwise I agree with you...the World Cup is enjoyable and I wasn't much of a football fan before it. :banana:

I've just listened to the British chart show for the first time in about 4 months and 1 in 4 songs are football songs...how pathetic are some people to buy these pieces of tosh? :rolleyes: :eek: My cat could have sung better in some of them.

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 07:25 PM
What kind of school are you in with a graduation at the age of 21

An English university. Is that graduation age unusual in your neck of the woods?

Horatio Caine
06-18-2006, 07:25 PM
Geez I don't really wish to disturb in another brilliant thread about relevant features of Ljubicic and if he's worse or better than Henman, according to Jez, but I haven't seen you for couple of weeks so I just need to ask how's life going and aren't you watching the football world cup because England sucks as usual, still winning nevertheless, and it's worth seeing though.

Don't drag me into it! :devil:

Hey Nathi! :bigwave:

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:30 PM
An English university. Is that graduation age unusual in your neck of the woods?
We go to uni at the age of 18/19 (I was born in November - so 18 :angel: ) and studies last for 5 years and medical school even 6 years. More time for party and hanging on MTF I guess :shrug:

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 07:32 PM
Ah. Well, just the three over here.

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:32 PM
Don't drag me into it! :devil:

Hey Nathi! :bigwave:
Jez :bounce: Missed you too!!! Your cat should produce some cell phone tune for extra tuna... of course with football-winged meowing

OMG thread hijacked :help:

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:35 PM
Ah. Well, just the three over here.
Such a diplomat that my ex-honey is deserves more diplomas that just one, but is it a secret which course are you graduating from?

Horatio Caine
06-18-2006, 07:37 PM
Jez :bounce: Missed you too!!! Your cat should produce some cell phone tune for extra tuna... of course with football-winged meowing

OMG thread hijacked :help:

:haha: The joys of hijacking :yeah:

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:40 PM
:haha: The joys of hijacking :yeah:
I know how to hijack one of kappy's thread about Federer. I'd ask him if he's going to the concert of Franz Ferdinand this year at Open'Er Festival in Gdynia (Poland)

:haha: Because I might go, despite I've seen FF last year in Nimes already :) :lol:

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 07:52 PM
Such a diplomat that my ex-honey is deserves more diplomas that just one, but is it a secret which course are you graduating from?

History.

Nathaliia
06-18-2006, 07:54 PM
History.
Me loves History just like me loves Sjengster ;)

Ok, gotta go :wavey:

Sjengster
06-18-2006, 07:56 PM
Me loves History just like me loves Sjengster ;)

Ok, gotta go :wavey:

In both cases, the importance of dates should not be underestimated.

See you again sometime. :wavey:

El Legenda
06-18-2006, 09:09 PM
And look who he beat on the way to these finals and who he LOST TOO! Federer and nadal, duh they beat him. Thomas Berdych?Yea, he lost to that guy. Hes a great player but hes not number four. It was on hard court and at that time, Berdych wasnt moving well at all. Even his coach said it after the match. Rg semis, didnt even play a seeded player and beat the unseeded with difficulty. So basically he just had a lucky draw. And not only that, but he is a SORE LOSER. All the speeches he makes when he loses in a final are so sad fake. The guy hardly moves on court and doesnt have a back up game plan. Hes not a natural.

could some one be more of a :retard:

AgassiDomination
06-18-2006, 09:50 PM
you're a HUGE :retard: and really mad that you're piss poor life will never come close to Ivan's
I'm not sure anyone would want to live Ivan's life...

AgassiDomination
06-18-2006, 09:51 PM
could some one be more of a :retard:
Ponder on that question for a bit longer.

El Legenda
06-18-2006, 11:16 PM
Ponder on that question for a bit longer.

sry...i forgot about you.

Deivid23
06-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Heīs ranked where he deserves, rankings donīt lie.

But apart from that fair point, I think he has reached his peak and heīs way overrated to my eyes when thereīs no roof over his head.

PD: Anyway, you gotta love a guy that once said "Iīm close to Federerīs level" and "I feel Iīm the second best player in the world"... maybe he lost a couple of lessons at school in his childhood

El Legenda
06-19-2006, 12:31 AM
Heīs ranked where he deserves, rankings donīt lie.

But apart from that fair point, I think he has reached his peak and heīs way overrated to my eyes when thereīs no roof over his head.

PD: Anyway, you gotta love a guy that once said "Iīm close to Federerīs level" and "I feel Iīm the second best player in the world"... maybe he lost a couple of lessons at school in his childhood

and what lessons in school did you learn, if someone is better then you, just give up?

AgassiDomination
06-19-2006, 12:39 AM
sry...i forgot about you.
Bravo, that wit sure does come in handy.

Raquel
06-19-2006, 12:41 AM
Daveydenko is another one of these good players, but not quite up to the standard of winning a GS. He doesnít have any real strengths other than his ability to return everything.
There's a lot more to Davydenko than meets the eye ;)

Raquel
06-19-2006, 12:47 AM
Ljubo made his way into a top 4 he doesn't belong and which he crapens with his presence.
:lol:

El Legenda
06-19-2006, 02:07 AM
Bravo, that wit sure does come in handy.

right back at ya

Bravo :haha: :haha: tool

its.like.that
06-19-2006, 02:44 AM
Not only the worst #4, but possibly the worst top 10 of all time.

ezekiel
06-19-2006, 02:58 AM
and the final question is how BALD is Ivan Ljubicic?
He is very, very bald :devil:

its.like.that
06-19-2006, 03:13 AM
:lol:

Mimi
06-19-2006, 03:14 AM
:haha: :haha: :woohoo: :bigclap: :yeah: and the final question is how BALD is Ivan Ljubicic?
He is very, very bald :devil:

El Legenda
06-19-2006, 03:20 AM
Not only the worst #4, but possibly the worst top 10 of all time.

true or not, he is still getting the $ :wavey:

Deivid23
06-19-2006, 04:48 AM
and what lessons in school did you learn, if someone is better then you, just give up?

Lesson 1: "4th guy in the row is behind the 2nd"

Lesson 2: "7000 points are way more than 3000 points"

AgassiDomination
06-19-2006, 04:55 AM
right back at ya

Bravo :haha: :haha: tool
:rolleyes: If your head wasn't so far up Ivan's ass, you'd probably get a life... 'probably' being the operative word.

supersexynadal
06-19-2006, 07:18 AM
and what lessons in school did you learn, if someone is better then you, just give up?


No...You tell them I WIN, YOU SUCK!!! <similar to ljubos attitude. And when the other person finally wins, u call them a retard. DO WHAT LJUBO DOES KIDS!!!

Nathaliia
06-19-2006, 07:58 AM
In both cases, the importance of dates should not be underestimated.

See you again sometime. :wavey:
Yes, but it's easier to sleep with you than to sleep with history. However, I think both - Egyptian mummy and Djiboutian Sjengster can be found in a British museum. Although the first one as an exhibition and the second one in the worst case - as an exhibitionist.

but from another thread:

Oh, but it felt so long being separated from you even for a week, my darling dkw!
I think this means I rather sleep with a mummy than with a swinger and I'm never gonna believe your sweet words again.

its.like.that
06-19-2006, 08:12 AM
lol

croman
06-19-2006, 09:37 AM
Kad sam se prijavio na ovaj forum stvarno nisam mislio da ima tolkih budala ovdje.Kao ovaj itslikethat to je takvo govno jebeno da bi ga odmah izbacio sa foruma da mogu.

stebs
06-19-2006, 10:45 AM
and the final question is how BALD is Ivan Ljubicic?
He is very, very bald :devil:
This post should be immortilised as one of the greatest of all time. :worship: :worship:

supersexynadal
06-19-2006, 11:40 AM
true or not, he is still getting the $ :wavey:

Oh u reminded me, thats y he plays tennis in the first place...
Some people dont like and you just cant change our minds!!

*Ljubica*
06-19-2006, 11:45 AM
This post should be immortilised as one of the greatest of all time. :worship: :worship:
This whole thread should be immortalised :rolleyes: - hard to imagine so much stupidity and so much bulls**t in one place. GM used to be a great place to talk about tennis - what happened? :sad:

stebs
06-19-2006, 11:47 AM
GM used to be a great place to talk about tennis - what happened? :sad:
You woke up? :p

*Ljubica*
06-19-2006, 11:59 AM
You woke up? :p
Then guess I'd better go back to sleep again then :angel: I don't come here very often anymore - the Fedtards v the Rafatards and all the bitching and nastiness here just doesn't do anything for me :sad:

Nathaliia
06-19-2006, 12:01 PM
Then guess I'd better go back to sleep again then :angel: I don't come here very often anymore - the Fedtards v the Rafatards and all the bitching and nastiness here just doesn't do anything for me :sad:
If you want Fedtards vs Nadaltards, you're in the wrong thread. However that's way a sane idea to read every post in every thread because you never know how a given thread might end up as.

Peta Pan
06-19-2006, 01:29 PM
I'm not a particular fan of Ljubicic (I personally just don't like the big serving style) - but to say that he is "pathetic" and will never achieve anything is- well - rather a pathetic comment in my opinion :rolleyes:

As J'torian so rightly said - he earned is ranking, and if all these other "superior" players are below him in the rankings it's because he has achieved better results than them in the previous year. That is not his fault so why diss him for it?

Ivan is a hard worker - not just on court but in his off-court work as well. He overcame great odds in his childhood, living through horrors in the Balkan War that most people here could not imagine - so rather than saying he will "never achieve anything substantial" - I happen to think he has achieved more than most people already, and is a credit to his family and his country to have overcome these odds and become such a dedicated professional.

And as for your comments about his serve being only "occasionally alright" and his backhand "isn't bad" - well I'm sorry Langers - but it seems you know very little about tennis :rolleyes:
That is the perfect post here... sensible, non-biased, logical :yeah:

To say that there are many players superior to him on the tour is just pathetic in itself... Ljubo has worked to get where he is and his results over the past few years have warranted his ranking.

Threads like this are SO unneeded on here :rolleyes:

Kristen
06-19-2006, 01:31 PM
You ditched me on msn for this thread!? :ras: ;)

betterthanhenman
06-19-2006, 01:51 PM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis? I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.

Let's see...

Langers: Worst ever No.4 in Men's tennis?
BTH: No

Langers: he is just so extremely average
BTH: :bs:

Langers: his backhand isn't bad and his serve can occasionally be alright
BTH: see above response and multiply by 2

Langers: he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career
BTH: :bs:

Langers: Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior
BTH: :bs:

harleyquin
06-19-2006, 04:58 PM
My sister says Lubo is one of the sexiest men in the world.

Apemant
06-19-2006, 06:41 PM
My sister says Lubo is one of the sexiest men in the world.

I'll believe that when I see someone named 'supersexylubo' here on MTF. :devil:

Peta Pan
06-19-2006, 06:44 PM
My sister says Lubo is one of the sexiest men in the world.
I'd agree with your sister ;) :o

Yergeht Fladnag
06-19-2006, 06:46 PM
Kad sam se prijavio na ovaj forum stvarno nisam mislio da ima tolkih budala ovdje.Kao ovaj itslikethat to je takvo govno jebeno da bi ga odmah izbacio sa foruma da mogu.
Idiot, stavi ga na ignore i mirna bosna. A mogao bi i ove beznadne slučajeve: Deivid23, MatejBockoFan, tangerine_dream, Word Life. (kopirano iz moje liste) ;)

croman
06-19-2006, 07:30 PM
Idiot, stavi ga na ignore i mirna bosna. A mogao bi i ove beznadne slučajeve: Deivid23, MatejBockoFan, tangerine_dream, Word Life. (kopirano iz moje liste) ;)

Ne brini,budem. :)

El Legenda
06-19-2006, 09:35 PM
:rolleyes: If your head wasn't so far up Ivan's ass, you'd probably get a life... 'probably' being the operative word.

hey looking at you're post, you post at all times of day. speaking of getting a life

I WIN AGAIN, LOSER

El Legenda
06-19-2006, 09:39 PM
Lesson 1: "4th guy in the row is behind the 2nd"

Lesson 2: "7000 points are way more than 3000 points"


Lesson 1: when a player says RIGHT NOW i am #2 in the race and i feel like i am #2, because nadal is hurt. means he was #2

Lesson 2: Once a while everyone can beat someone who is better then them, how do you think ROddick wins matches? or how does nadal beat Roger, Nadal is not even 1/10th as good as roger.

I win.

cya loser

Deivid23
06-19-2006, 11:22 PM
Lesson 1: when a player says RIGHT NOW i am #2 in the race and i feel like i am #2, because nadal is hurt. means he was #2

Lesson 2: Once a while everyone can beat someone who is better then them, how do you think ROddick wins matches? or how does nadal beat Roger, Nadal is not even 1/10th as good as roger.

I win.

cya loser


:cuckoo:


You win at being an arsehole, yes

Hawkman
06-20-2006, 12:03 AM
Nadal has Roger's Number Jerry; everyone know's that. 'Cept the fanboy's. Myopia is bad for your health.

-

How good is Ivan Ljubičić ?

Good enough to win 5 titles on the ATP Tour (4 of those within 4 months of each other and recent).

Good enough to be Ranked Number 3 in the World (As of May 1, 2006) and now is 4

Good enough to win the Bronze at th Olympics (Doubles - 2004)

Good enought to have a Win - Loss Record of 249 - 173

Good enough to make it to this years' Aussie QF and the French SF

Good enough to make it as a finalist at:

2005 Doha - lost to Roger Federer, 3:6 6:7(4)
Rotterdam - lost to Roger Federer, 7:5 5:7 6:7(5)
Dubai - lost to Roger Federer, 1:6 7:6(6) 3:6
Madrid Masters - lost to Rafael Nadal, 6:3 6:2 3:6 4:6 6:7(3)
2006 Miami Masters - lost to Roger Federer, 6:7(5) 6:7(4) 6:7(6)

If you're going to lose to some it may be Rafa and Fed. He is good enough to take those guy's deep.

-- --

He's a little better than you give him credit for

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 12:28 AM
hey looking at you're post, you post at all times of day. speaking of getting a life

I WIN AGAIN, LOSER
Hey, looking at YOUR profile, you post an average of 24 posts per day. Add that with trying to find your head in Ivan's black hole, most (including Ivan) would call you the loser.

Listen up idiot, you can suck your cousin's dick all you want, but I doubt he'll ever recognize your sorry ass as family. You wish you could live the life Ivan lives, which isn't that spectacular to begin, which leads me to believe that your life must be comprised of complete shit. I think people would pick my life over yours anyday seeing as you're just a fat fuck (which means you suck even more) who's only pro quality is that you're related to a pro tennis player who won't go down in the record books for anything except Player with the Dumbest Cousin. I post at 1 AM because I study into the night and I take breaks, yeah call me a nerd but I'm the one that actually has a significant amount of money at the age of 18, am in great shape, and I have a future. When your shit of a life picks up, then try this argument again.

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:04 AM
Hey, looking at YOUR profile, you post an average of 24 posts per day. Add that with trying to find your head in Ivan's black hole, most (including Ivan) would call you the loser.

Listen up idiot, you can suck your cousin's dick all you want, but I doubt he'll ever recognize your sorry ass as family. You wish you could live the life Ivan lives, which isn't that spectacular to begin, which leads me to believe that your life must be comprised of complete shit. I think people would pick my life over yours anyday seeing as you're just a fat fuck (which means you suck even more) who's only pro quality is that you're related to a pro tennis player who won't go down in the record books for anything except Player with the Dumbest Cousin. I post at 1 AM because I study into the night and I take breaks, yeah call me a nerd but I'm the one that actually has a significant amount of money at the age of 18, am in great shape, and I have a future. When your shit of a life picks up, then try this argument again.

:haha: :haha: dude we all seen your pic on here
that 6pack of rolls is looking HOT :wavey:

Ivan's life must suck, millions of $, wife and everything he wants, compared to your 20k a year. what a high roller you are

I WIN
Im rich bitch,
thank you come again

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 01:10 AM
I'm not fat, as opposed to you. Nice try though. :rolleyes: 20K a year? LOL I have a lot more in the bank than that.

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:12 AM
I'm not fat, as opposed to you. Nice try though. :rolleyes:

hey if that helps you sleeps at night, go for it :wavey: but put down that 12inch sub :kiss:

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:13 AM
LOL I have a lot more in the bank than that.

hahaha my parents company makes that before you wake up in the morning.

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 01:14 AM
hahaha my parents company makes that before you wake up in the morning.
:rolleyes: I'm sure.

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 01:15 AM
hey if that helps you sleeps at night, go for it :wavey: but put down that 12inch sub :kiss:
Don't diss Subway man, if it helped Jared it can help you too.

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:17 AM
:rolleyes: I'm sure.

reprinting photos and framing them is quite a business.
Hobby Lobby and Garden Ridge are our #1buyers

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 01:18 AM
reprinting photos and framing them is quite a business.
Hobby Lobby and Garden Ridge are our #1buyers
Of course.

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:20 AM
Hey, looking at YOUR profile, you post an average of 24 posts per day. Add that with trying to find your head in Ivan's black hole, most (including Ivan) would call you the loser.

Listen up idiot, you can suck your cousin's dick all you want, but I doubt he'll ever recognize your sorry ass as family. You wish you could live the life Ivan lives, which isn't that spectacular to begin, which leads me to believe that your life must be comprised of complete shit. I think people would pick my life over yours anyday seeing as you're just a fat fuck (which means you suck even more) who's only pro quality is that you're related to a pro tennis player who won't go down in the record books for anything except Player with the Dumbest Cousin. I post at 1 AM because I study into the night and I take breaks, yeah call me a nerd but I'm the one that actually has a significant amount of money at the age of 18, am in great shape, and I have a future. When your shit of a life picks up, then try this argument again.

i will close with this, as this thread probably get deleted soon

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

:wavey:
Good night

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:21 AM
Of course.

look for the Select Publications sticker on the back, next time you visit your fav store HOBBY LOBBY :)

Hawkman
06-20-2006, 01:25 AM
Well this thread imploded. Are there Moderator's on this site ?

What is about Sport's forum's having the most ass-clown's ?

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 01:27 AM
i will close with this, as this thread probably get deleted soon

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

:wavey:
Good night
A rational thought? Well lets see, you post an average of 24 posts per day and I post 6. Clearly that means your life is in the fast lane. Ivan's life is way better than anything you will amount to so you hold on to the fact that he is famous so that you could be recognized on... a forum. Yet another reason why your life is just fantastic. Because I actually have a life and yours is just a sad attempt to be involved in Ivan's, it is an irrational thought. Yeah, I'm quite sure that is much more rational than your Roddick hate and Ivan obsession.

Adios. :wavey: :rolls:

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:28 AM
once again
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:32 AM
also nice try on the 24-6, you had about 700posts about 3months ago. i would say you're at 40per day

:wavey:

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 01:35 AM
if my count is right you had 59posts today, starting at 11:24am(Ct) when you woke up, then going hour by hour kept posting, nice life
and i had 13 :wavey:

so who's the loser?

i would also like to apologize to the members of the forum for making this thread, which was already crap into more crap
:hug:
this is my 2nd to last post in the thread

i win.

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 01:59 AM
I signed up on MTF a month before you, yet you manage to have more than three and a half times my post count. That makes a whole lot more sense than comparing one day, no? Clearly, numbers isn't your strong suit. Better stick to letting your parents run that business. :lol:

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 02:02 AM
I signed up on MTF a month before you, yet you manage to have more than three and a half times my post count. That makes a whole lot more sense than comparing one day, no? Clearly, numbers isn't your strong suit. Better stick to letting your parents run that business. :lol:



you had about 700 or less posts and in about 3months you have 4300, i can register a new name and make 1 post and leave it, i will have .000000001 post per day in few years, like i said, you have been getting in good 40+ a day in last few months.

thinking is just not your thing dude

i win again

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 02:22 AM
How would you know if I had 700 posts three months ago? Even if that was the case (and it definitely isn't), it means I've had more time on my hands as of late, unlike you being glued to a monitor for a year and nine months.

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 02:27 AM
How would you know if I had 700 posts three months ago? Even if that was the case (and it definitely isn't), it means I've had more time on my hands as of late, unlike you being glued to a monitor for a year and nine months.

wrong again, i would say most of my post came from live scores threads. where you can get 100's of post quick, while helping others get the score up to date :wavey:

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 04:20 AM
Ljubicic gets Play of the Week on clay......his worst surface
he sucks

http://www.atptennis.com/en/mercedesbenz/

AgassiDomination
06-20-2006, 04:36 AM
Ljubicic gets Play of the Week on clay......his worst surface
he sucks

http://www.atptennis.com/en/mercedesbenz/
If you're going by Play of the Week, count how many Roddick has and how many Ivan has. :lol:

supersexynadal
06-20-2006, 09:37 AM
If you're going by Play of the Week, count how many Roddick has and how many Ivan has. :lol:
Play of the week is just one good point. You can lose a match 6-06-0 and still get play of the week.

And Andy had a better career than Ivan so u cant compare them NOW.

Action Jackson
06-20-2006, 09:42 AM
Well this thread imploded. Are there Moderator's on this site ?

What is about Sport's forum's having the most ass-clown's ?

It's a classic case of flaming and as for arse clowns there are plenty on this forum and there is a contest that will be held soon which will celebrate them.

mandoura
06-20-2006, 01:01 PM
It's a classic case of flaming and as for arse clowns there are plenty on this forum and there is a contest that will be held soon which will celebrate them.

Can't wait. :)

rod99
06-20-2006, 01:40 PM
i laughed when i read a post saying that ljubicic's backhand isn't as good as federer's. ljubicic's backhand is much better than federer's (however's fed's forehand is light years better than ljubicic's). did anyone see the french open final?? it was like 35 errors to 5 winners on the backhand side!

supersexynadal
06-20-2006, 05:57 PM
Jerry sienfeld play of the week was monfils against ljubicic and it was MONFILs who played he winner whipping a backhand with his back to the court!

mandoura
06-20-2006, 06:32 PM
i laughed when i read a post saying that ljubicic's backhand isn't as good as federer's. ljubicic's backhand is much better than federer's (however's fed's forehand is light years better than ljubicic's). did anyone see the french open final?? it was like 35 errors to 5 winners on the backhand side!

Yes, me too. Ljubo's backhand is a beauty to watch, the movement is so fluid and natural. I also like Gaudio's and Gask's.

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 09:27 PM
Jerry sienfeld play of the week was monfils against ljubicic and it was MONFILs who played he winner whipping a backhand with his back to the court!

how about you watch the link i posted and say that again

http://www.atptennis.com/en/mercedesbenz/

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 09:27 PM
i laughed when i read a post saying that ljubicic's backhand isn't as good as federer's. ljubicic's backhand is much better than federer's (however's fed's forehand is light years better than ljubicic's). did anyone see the french open final?? it was like 35 errors to 5 winners on the backhand side!

I agree :)

El Legenda
06-20-2006, 09:29 PM
It's a classic case of flaming and as for arse clowns there are plenty on this forum and there is a contest that will be held soon which will celebrate them.

I cant wait :) hope i dont get put up vs Jogy again :sad:

:rolls:

Action Jackson
06-21-2006, 06:28 AM
I cant wait :) hope i dont get put up vs Jogy again :sad:

:rolls:

You will both be seeded and yes there will be a 128 draw with qualifiers.

The way this place is going it might be even possible to have a 256 draw.

Nalbandian!!!
06-21-2006, 06:54 AM
He is not a bad player, the opposite but maybe this poster means fact that he is number 4 in the world shows how poor the ATP is apart from Federer and Nadal


and Nalbi :worship:

supersexynadal
06-21-2006, 10:09 AM
Sorry, incase anyones wondering y ljubo shaves his head!http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/bios/ms/atpl360.html

Ok ivan, shave a put a hat on :D

El Legenda
06-21-2006, 12:11 PM
dont you have to be 13+ to register for the forum?

mladenrox
06-23-2006, 05:32 AM
Yer definately no good is Ljubicic. If you look at Safin from #4 last year and compare him with Ljubicic there is no way Ljubicic deserves such a good ranking.

croman
06-23-2006, 10:10 AM
Yer definately no good is Ljubicic. If you look at Safin from #4 last year and compare him with Ljubicic there is no way Ljubicic deserves such a good ranking.

Croman:1.Australian Idiot

tangerine_dream
08-12-2006, 09:21 PM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis?

LOL. He's now officially the worst No. 3 in men's tennis.

Good thing he's invisible. ;)

Sjengster
08-12-2006, 09:25 PM
Yer definately no good is Ljubicic. If you look at Safin from #4 last year and compare him with Ljubicic there is no way Ljubicic deserves such a good ranking.

The irony is their results are so similar; both of them were indoor monsters in 2004 and 2005 respectively, the difference is Ljubicic couldn't win the Madrid and Paris finals where Safin did. Mind you, dare I suggest that Nadal and Berdych are slightly tougher opponents than Nalbandian and Stepanek?

All_Slam_Andre
08-12-2006, 09:30 PM
I am not a huge fan of Ljubicic. His grand slam record was abysmal until this year, and he hasn't won any big tournaments. But I agree that the fact he and Davydenko are in top 5 shows the lack of depth on the ATP tour at the minute. The top two are streets ahead.

for-sure
08-12-2006, 09:43 PM
Ivan is a great player...he is just a part of a generation when only 2 players are winnings slams: Federer and Nadal.

tangerine_dream
08-13-2006, 08:46 PM
:lol: They just said on ESPN that Ljubicic had called Gasquet "spoiled" and "weird" last year (at USO?)

Ivan just grows into a bigger classless dick every day. :rolls: :devil:

betterthanhenman
08-13-2006, 08:47 PM
:lol: They just said on ESPN that Ljubicic had called Gasquet "spoiled" and "weird" last year (at USO?)

This guy just grows into a bigger classless dick every day. :rolls: :devil:

How so if he said it last year?

ChinoRios4Ever
08-14-2006, 12:23 AM
are you crazy???

LJUBICIC A BAD PLAYER?????

i cant believe this, ljubo is fantastic

dkw
08-14-2006, 12:26 AM
Well at least he's better than Xristos aka "Me"

croat123
08-14-2006, 12:43 AM
last 12 months:

4 titles
3 TMS finals
GS semi
GS quarter

BlakeorHenman
08-14-2006, 06:14 AM
last 12 months:

4 titles
3 TMS finals
GS semi
GS quarter

Just to play Devil's Advocate, this could EASILY be explained by looking at his draws.

GlennMirnyi
08-14-2006, 11:36 AM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis? I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.

How can people come up with such rubbish? :confused:

tennismaster882001
08-15-2006, 02:21 AM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis? I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.

:retard:

16681
08-15-2006, 04:31 AM
Well say what you will about him and he isn't a great favorite of mine, but the fact remains he is now ranked #3 in the World.

General Suburbia
08-15-2006, 05:56 AM
Don't care much for his style, but he is #3. He might have a few more fans if sports channels gave him some more coverage, but I guess ESPN cares just as little for Ljubicic as the rest of the tennis world.

As for the thread imploding, all of the flamers here are idiots. I felt myself become dumber every time I read the words "I win."

disturb3d
08-15-2006, 07:06 AM
Well say what you will about him and he isn't a great favorite of mine, but the fact remains he is now ranked #3 in the World.That's a bullshit justification of his quality.

He's played 14 tournaments to Nalbandian's 10. And only leads him by 34 race points.
Ljubicic needs a dick-slap every time he boasts his no.3 ranking.

If he didn't pull a fuckin Davydenko, you'd see how pathetic he is.

ca1houn
08-15-2006, 07:14 AM
Ljubicic needs a dick-slap every time he boasts his no.3 ranking




:haha: :haha: :haha:

El Legenda
08-15-2006, 07:15 AM
That's a bullshit justification of his quality.

He's played 14 tournaments to Nalbandian's 10. And only leads him by 34 race points.
Ljubicic needs a dick-slap every time he boasts his no.3 ranking.

If he didn't pull a fuckin Davydenko, you'd see how pathetic he is.

:retard: race has nothing to do with entry...the real ranking :retard:

Apemant
08-15-2006, 07:30 AM
That's a bullshit justification of his quality.

He's played 14 tournaments to Nalbandian's 10. And only leads him by 34 race points.
Ljubicic needs a dick-slap every time he boasts his no.3 ranking.

If he didn't pull a fuckin Davydenko, you'd see how pathetic he is.


Admirable sentiment.

True, it doesn't say much about Yvan, but on the other hand, it speaks volumes about you. Cheers.

Langers
08-29-2006, 12:05 PM
Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Menís Tennis? I believe he is, because I donít ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isnít bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. Itís a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.
How good am I?

Jaap
08-29-2006, 12:21 PM
You was spot on Langers.

Ljubo is a joke and shouldn't be in the top 10 let alone top 3.

njorker
08-29-2006, 01:00 PM
Mauresmo-best woman to have never won a grandslam
Ljubicic-worst player to have ever been number 4!


Uhhhh, unless you were hiding in a hole for the past ten months, Mauresmo has won 2 GS already. :wavey: Or maybe you were trying to mean something w/ that statement but for the life of me, I can't figure out what you mean!

boliviana
08-29-2006, 03:59 PM
I can't begin to comment on him overall but yesterday he stunk . . . saw him play and it was bad all around . . . and he can't complain about the crowds or whatever . . . he was on Armstrong and the sun was out and it was nice . . . there was some noise from Grandstand because of Baghdatis but nothing overwhelming. He just didn't come to play.

Lendl's Forehand
08-29-2006, 04:18 PM
Ivan's a total underachiever in the majors with the exception being this years French Open. He's got a lifetime losing record at the US Open and Wimbledon.

Dancing Hero
08-29-2006, 05:31 PM
Don't see Ljubicic winning a GS title and if he does, it would be a one-off. He must be a pretty good player but being a champion is different.

zaboomafoo
08-29-2006, 11:47 PM
for the #1 spot he is a joke, even xristos had a mp against him

markom
08-30-2006, 07:40 AM
last 12 months:

4 titles
3 TMS finals
GS semi
GS quarter

+ 4 atp finals lost to federer

but something croat fans are most grateful for:

reining Davis Cup Champions (ljubo has 15-2 record for the last year and if only ancic or karlovic were by his side but young and talented cilic his score would have been 16-1 and argentina would not have escaped with 3:2)

& 2006 World Team Championship winners

so it makes him definitely really BAD :)

jenanun
08-30-2006, 12:17 PM
ljubicic is not a grandslam material....

he can win a couple of non slam nonTMS titles, where the field is weaker...
or maybe some indoor TMS if he get lucky (e.g.federer not playing etc.... )

ljubicic cannot even win against nadal at indoor when he was 2 sets up... (ok probably his excuse was nadal taking too much times between points, but still..... nadal sucks at indoor!)

he can play some good quality tennis occasionally, but no.3 is the furthest he could go, and no slam in his career... (even federer doesnt exist...)

Apemant
08-30-2006, 09:10 PM
ljubicic cannot even win against nadal at indoor when he was 2 sets up... (ok probably his excuse was nadal taking too much times between points, but still..... nadal sucks at indoor!)


Nadal doesn't suck at indoor. There is nothing about indoors that would be a disadvantage to anyone, including Nadal. So, Nadal @ indoors is the same thing as Nadal @ anywhere else, if the surface is the same. And Madrid was a medium speed hardcourt.

Luby lost that match because Nadal is a never-say-die fighter, while Luby is pretty much a choker. Other than that, he does have the skills to beat Nadal on hard surfaces. For example, serving like he did vs. Nalbo in DC this year, he can beat anyone. But of course, you can't depend on that serve to carry you through 7 hard best-of-five matches in a row. Sooner rather than later the serve will fail at crucial moments. Therefore, chances of him winning a slam are pretty slim. But never say never.

El Legenda
08-30-2006, 11:37 PM
How good am I?

so good that when Ivan starts collecting Indoor titles...you will run and hide.

:wavey:

top 3 is not a gift...he earned it...by winning 49 matches already this year....

Just Cause
10-15-2006, 05:32 PM
LOL....well, he won one, granted it's not TMS...
Good luck RODDICK:).

Apemant
10-15-2006, 06:49 PM
LOL....well, he won one, granted it's not TMS...
Good luck RODDICK:).

Why dig this thread now? Wait till Murray spanks him in Madrid, then fire away. :devil:

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-15-2006, 11:28 PM
Lubiho is a joke.

Just Cause
10-18-2006, 05:01 PM
Looks to be pretty bad.

safinalium
10-18-2006, 05:18 PM
he isn't that bad. he just isn't that good. :nerner:

supersexynadal
10-18-2006, 05:20 PM
ivan ljubicic is not "bad" I dont like him but its not coz hes a bad player. He just has a style thats easily critisezed and i happen to be one of those people who dont like it