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Queen's: Nadal def. Verdasco 2-6, 7-6(3), 7-6(3)

Björki
06-15-2006, 03:26 PM
what a match, lots of breaks in the last set.

Poor Nando :sad:

Congrats to Rafa :yeah: Now lets beat Lleyton :bounce:

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 03:32 PM
Nando :D

Federer&Hingis
06-15-2006, 03:33 PM
If rafa can't beat Nando on grass so he have no chance to win wimbledon.

:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

kindablue
06-15-2006, 03:33 PM
:yeah: Vamos Nando!!! I wouldn't get the skewers out for pig roasting
not just yet!!!

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 03:34 PM
Rafa will claw back

gillian
06-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Rafa will claw back

Yes, he's very good at that.

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Nando needs to maintain focus, that really bad call that was miles long was not called out

Federer&Hingis
06-15-2006, 03:40 PM
Nando leads 2-1 (Rafa to serve next) in 2nd set.

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 03:55 PM
Rafa will claw back

You can bet he will.

GermanBoy
06-15-2006, 04:00 PM
Please Fernando, make my day! :D

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 04:08 PM
It's 5-5 in the second set.

Björki
06-15-2006, 04:08 PM
5-5 vamos Nando :bounce:

RonE
06-15-2006, 04:09 PM
Nando blew his chance at 15-30 on Rafa's last game! This match is over.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 04:13 PM
if rafa wins the 2nd, he'll roll nando in the 3rd

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 04:14 PM
Nando blew his chance at 15-30 on Rafa's last game! This match is over.

Pretty much. However, this was to be expected. :p

RonE
06-15-2006, 04:17 PM
if rafa wins the 2nd, he'll roll nando in the 3rd

Yup- with the break in hand now I don't see him faltering to serve out the 2nd set. 3rd set will be 6-1 or 6-2 to Rafa.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah, Rafa broke to lead 6-5. Match is probably over.

Xristos
06-15-2006, 04:21 PM
How does he always find a way to win??

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 04:22 PM
Pathetic Nando, you should have been done by now :smash: so many wasted opportunities :(

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 04:23 PM
I'll be damned. Verdasco broke back - tiebreak time!

Björki
06-15-2006, 04:23 PM
Verdasco breaks back... Tiebreak

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 04:23 PM
Argh! RAFA! why a tiebreak? :banghead:

RonE
06-15-2006, 04:23 PM
Nando breaks back! :eek:

But Rafa will win the tiebreak 7-0 :p

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 04:23 PM
Nando broke back the world has come to an end :lol:

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 04:27 PM
Poor Nando so many bad calls against him :fiery:

admiralpye
06-15-2006, 04:28 PM
I'm sorry for Verdasco for the wrong line calls. But I'm glad Rafa has his chances.

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 04:28 PM
Does the umpire needs new glasses WTF :smash:

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 04:28 PM
ahh, those spaniards on grass are so :smash:

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 04:29 PM
Shit I have to get to work :bigcry:

RonE
06-15-2006, 04:35 PM
Nice try Nando. Better luck next time.

admiralpye
06-15-2006, 04:37 PM
what happened to nando? injury?

SloKid
06-15-2006, 04:41 PM
@ the title: Verdasco leads Nadal 6-2, 6-7....wouldn't that mean they are tied. :p

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 04:43 PM
@ the title: Verdasco leads Nadal 6-2, 6-7....wouldn't that mean they are tied. :p

I know. :lol: :tape:

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 04:44 PM
lol, these guys took 2 hrs to play 2 sets :lol:

feels like a WTA match

Björki
06-15-2006, 04:50 PM
Rafa *2-0

Nando :sad:

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 04:51 PM
Rafa *2-0

Nando :sad:

Poor Nando indeed looks like the bagel is inevitable.

Leo
06-15-2006, 04:51 PM
3-0 now in the 3rd. :lol: Over.

DDrago2
06-15-2006, 04:53 PM
This match was ridiculous, so many decisive bad calls against Verdasco Poor guy

admiralpye
06-15-2006, 04:55 PM
Yeah, and since this is not clay anymore, there's almost no way for the umpire to overrule the calls.

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:02 PM
Nando just broke *2-3.Vamos!!! Although i 'm sure you 'll choke in the end!!!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:03 PM
I would love to actually watch this match instead of following the live score. I can't believe that Verdasco broke back. This match isn't over yet!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:06 PM
Verdasco got broken AGAIN! :rolleyes:

Angle Queen
06-15-2006, 05:08 PM
lol, these guys took 2 hrs to play 2 sets :lol:

feels like a WTA matchNow add all the breaks of serve...and yep, you've got yourself a WTA match. :lol:

Chloe le Bopper
06-15-2006, 05:08 PM
This match was ridiculous, so many decisive bad calls against Verdasco Poor guy
Uncle Toni clearly paid the umpire off before the match. UNFAIR :(

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:09 PM
..and then Nadal got broken. Goddamn, this is supposed to be a GRASS court match. :devil:

Andre♥
06-15-2006, 05:10 PM
I'm watching the match and Nadal looks... tired!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:10 PM
Nando rebreaks *3-4!!! Pity i'm not home to watch this on Eurosport!!!

Björki
06-15-2006, 05:10 PM
what a match :lol:

hold now Fernando

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:11 PM
..and then Nadal got broken. Goddamn, this is supposed to be a GRASS court match. :devil:

come on. 2 clay courters on grass? got to be a 3 set, WTA style, 2:30 hrs+ match, of course :yeah:

Argenbrit
06-15-2006, 05:11 PM
Go Fernando!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:14 PM
These guys can't hold serve to save their lives.

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:14 PM
Hold Nandooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

dmit424
06-15-2006, 05:14 PM
For Nadal hopefuls (myself included) it doesn't bode well that he has been broken 6 times on grass in a best of three match that hasn't even concluded yet. He did break Verdasco 4 times though, but this just pretty much has all the signs of two clay courters playing on grass :(

Anyways, I am hoping Nadal gets this, because a win is a win, and Hewitt must have his revenge.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:17 PM
Long game for Verdasco this.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:17 PM
He HELD!! Unbelievable!

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:18 PM
Nando holds!!! Now break!!! No chance for you in a TB!!!

The Daviator
06-15-2006, 05:18 PM
Verdasco is a cheat, no more, no less...

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:19 PM
He HELD!! Unbelievable!

:haha: what a joke :lol:

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:20 PM
Love game Nadal!!! It's over!!!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:21 PM
Quick hold game for Nadal. Damn.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:22 PM
Love game Nadal!!! It's over!!!

I would love to think that, but with these guys, anything can happen :smash:

Like the Australia-Japan football match :lol: 3 goals in 8 mins, lol

DDrago2
06-15-2006, 05:23 PM
What a funny match It turned even more ridiculous than it already was :confused:

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:25 PM
Nando saves a matchpoint!!! Keep it up!!! We want 3 hours!!!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:26 PM
Nando HOLDS!!!

Argenbrit
06-15-2006, 05:27 PM
5-5 now.

yanchr
06-15-2006, 05:27 PM
is it grass :scratch:

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:27 PM
Nando HOLDS!!!

unbelievable. RAFA!!! wtf are you doing, man?

admiralpye
06-15-2006, 05:28 PM
Now Nando is really injured after that fall.

admiralpye
06-15-2006, 05:31 PM
I guess not, nando.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:31 PM
Nadal holds: 6-5

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:32 PM
Rafa holds!!! Now you hold Nando!!!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:32 PM
LOL! Almost 3 hours gone despite the match being on grass AND the first set resulting in a 6-2 win.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:33 PM
Rafa holds!!! Now you hold Nando!!!

this better not go to a 3rd set tiebreak.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:33 PM
Let's see if Nando can hold a third consecutive service game.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:34 PM
LOL! Almost 3 hours gone despite the match being on grass AND the first set resulting in a 6-2 win.

yes, very :banghead: it feels like a safin match

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:34 PM
This is such a *classic* grass court match! :devil:

The Daviator
06-15-2006, 05:34 PM
Crippled Verdasco is STILL in the match, can you believe it :rolleyes:

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:35 PM
Match point Nadal again.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:37 PM
Nando holds after facing another matchpoint!!

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:38 PM
Perhaps Nadal isn't as fierce a big point player as we usually make him out to be. We'll see in the tiebreak.

The Daviator
06-15-2006, 05:38 PM
Tie-break :rolleyes:

Take a guess at who's going to win this :o

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:40 PM
What's Rafas tiebreak record for the year - anyone knows?

rofe
06-15-2006, 05:40 PM
Tie-break :rolleyes:

Take a guess at who's going to win this :o

Why are you embarassed? :scratch: Nadal has a better chance to win it from a mental perspective.

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:43 PM
Just checked it out: Rafas tiebreak record for the year before this one is 8-3. Pretty impressive.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:43 PM
3 hrs :banghead:
2 tiebreaks :banghead:
2 matchpoints :banghead:

so many leads choked :banghead:

and a 4-3 lead in the tiebreak, :lol:

BlueSwan
06-15-2006, 05:43 PM
Just checked it out: Rafas tiebreak record for the year before this one is 8-3. Pretty impressive.
Especially since 6 of those tiebreaks were against Federer.

The Daviator
06-15-2006, 05:44 PM
3 mps, please take one Rafa :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
06-15-2006, 05:44 PM
Nadal couldn't do anything in the first set on his serve and couldn't get anything going on Nando's serve until the 11th game int eh 2nd set. He breaks, looks like he is going to serve out the set, but then inexplicably gets broken aftere being up 40-15, falls behind 0-2 in the TB'er and then wins 7 of the next 8 points to take the set.

Nadal slowly but surely improved and got stonger as the match went along, much like he does in most of his hardcourt matches. I was surprised Nando broke his twice in the third set.

Nando then gets a BP opportunity in the first game of the 3rd, loses it, gets discouraged and promptly loses the first three games of the third set in a blur.
Then he shows some surprising fight and breaks back in the 5th game of the 3rd set. Then, in typical Nando fashion, gets broken back in the next game. Surprisngly, Nadal can't consolidate the break so it goes back on serve at 3-4 with Nando to serve. Then, to nobody's surprise, Nadal looks to break again and manages to get 3 BP's but can't convert any of them.

Then Nando serves at 4-5 to stay in the match, gets up 30-0, throws in a double to let Nadal back in it, then saves a MP and holds to tie it up at 5-5. Nadal gets into a bit of trouble on his next serve game but holds. Then Nando saves ANOTHER MP in the next game to send it to a TB'er.

Nadal got the early lead in the breaker and didn't let up.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:45 PM
VAMOS!!! Rafa, the grass master!!! :smoke:

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-15-2006, 05:45 PM
A win is a win, I guess. :D

Weird match. :confused:

gillian
06-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Nice comeback by Nadal. I followed it online. Seems like the last two sets were tight and hard fought.

Björki
06-15-2006, 05:45 PM
finally it's over.

Rafa 2-6, 7-6, 7-6

kindablue
06-15-2006, 05:45 PM
It's over in 3 hrs 1 min 32 secs!!!

sonia
06-15-2006, 05:46 PM
Rafa :yeah:

Nando :awww: :hug:

lucashg
06-15-2006, 05:46 PM
Pathetic.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:46 PM
Nice comeback by Nadal. I followed it online. Seems like the last two sets were tight and hard fought.

no, they were just chokefests, breaks, claying on grass, and WTA like play

yanchr
06-15-2006, 05:47 PM
:yawn:

The Daviator
06-15-2006, 05:48 PM
Rafa will be exhausted mentally and physically after that one, I'm glad he won though, nice gamesmanship from Verdasco :rolleyes:

Good luck against Hewitt :yeah:

NYCtennisfan
06-15-2006, 05:49 PM
Nadal's return got stronger has the match went on. I can't remember the last time I saw a three hour 3-set match on grass.

gillian
06-15-2006, 05:51 PM
no, they were just chokefests, breaks, claying on grass, and WTA like play

LOL. So, low-quality. Well, for Rafa a win is still a win.

3 hrs, 21 minutes is a loooong time for a 3-set match, esp. one on grass. How slow were those points? :)

oneandonlyhsn
06-15-2006, 05:52 PM
Nando :sad: you should have closed it out in 2

rofe
06-15-2006, 05:52 PM
LOL. So, low-quality. Well, for Rafa a win is still a win.

3 hrs, 21 minutes is a loooong time for a 3-set match, esp. one on grass. How slow were those points? :)

Well if you factor in the time that Nadal takes between points, it may not have been that long.

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 05:54 PM
Well if you factor in the time that Nadal takes between points, it may not have been that long.

ah rofe :wavey:

Clara Bow
06-15-2006, 05:55 PM
Well if you factor in the time that Nadal takes between points, it may not have been that long.

Actually - in this match Verdasco took longer between points. ;)

This was not a good match for Nadal. Verdasco hit some amazing winners.

nobama
06-15-2006, 05:56 PM
It's over in 3 hrs 1 min 32 secs!!!They were playing on grass, right? :lol:

The Daviator
06-15-2006, 05:56 PM
Well if you factor in the time that Nadal takes between points, it may not have been that long.

Verdasco's little 'stretches' were pretty time-consuming too :p

rofe
06-15-2006, 05:57 PM
ah rofe :wavey:

It is boring to watch a player do so much after each point. Get on with the program! ;)

rofe
06-15-2006, 05:58 PM
Verdasco's little 'stretches' were pretty time-consuming too :p

Hey, so this match could have been over in 2 hours then... :p

Neely
06-15-2006, 06:00 PM
Good comeback for Rafa!!
But also a match of wasted opportunities from the view of Nando...

I did not the whole third set, but when I watched the end of this set, Verdasco's serve was pretty weak all of a sudden and I wondered why? :confused:

DhammaTiger
06-15-2006, 06:09 PM
What a wonderful match of very high quality tennis. I doubt very much that those who have cast doubts on the quality of the tennis in this match actually watched it. I was privelidged to watch the last 2 sets on eurosport and must say it was breath taking. The commentators, frew mcmillan himself was astonished at the quality from both players. At the end, even though I am a Rafa supporter, I could not help but root for Fernando. He was obviously, in pain in the 3rd set but yet played some magnificent tennis to push the match to the tie breaker. When he fell I thought he would retire but no, fernando kept on fighting. Well done to both players and I hope Nando is not too badly injured. For those who laugh at this match or deride spanish or south american players on grass, I say to them you better reevaluate your prejudices. Vamos Rafa and commiserations to Nando :hug: :hatoff:. Hewitt will be very, very tough opponent for Rafa and he knows it, even though I have no illussions but I hope and wish that Rafa will win. Vamos Rafa :bounce:

A_Skywalker
06-15-2006, 06:10 PM
Nadal's return got stronger has the match went on. I can't remember the last time I saw a three hour 3-set match on grass.

two spaniards can do it even on grass :)

alfonsojose
06-15-2006, 06:13 PM
Nadal is still fit :eek:

Corey Feldman
06-15-2006, 06:19 PM
Verdy showing himself to be injured in the last 2 sets...
commentators think he was faking and Rafa was not happy at all with Nando..
he looked hurt then would hit 100 MPH FH winners :lol:

jenanun
06-15-2006, 06:23 PM
If rafa can't beat Nando on grass so he have no chance to win wimbledon.

:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:


he has chance now!!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Clara Bow
06-15-2006, 06:25 PM
What a wonderful match of very high quality tennis. I doubt very much that those who have cast doubts on the quality of the tennis in this match actually watched it


I like you loads sweetie but I’ve gotta disagree in regards to Rafa and at times Nando. :hug::

Nando had some great play, with some whizzing winners in the first two sets. Rafa looked “meh” and was not moving as well on grass as yesterday. Then Nando choked a bit in the second set. In the third Nando started grabbing at his back between every point. Between the back grabs he did have some great movement in the points. The announcers cracked me up when they said that Nando looked about 50 years older between the points than he did during the action of the actual points. It was funny because it was true. :lol: Nadal seemed confused by the dichotomy between Nando’s actions between points and his ability during the points. When Nadal had the chance to serve out the match twice he was rather unspectacular to put it kindly. I think Nadal needs to learn how to play against opponents who seem injured between points but move fine during the action. Rafa got too rattled. Nadal did have a couple of great passing shots and a good volley, but overall…I would give his play today the grade of C.

mallorn
06-15-2006, 06:29 PM
Well if you factor in the time that Nadal takes between points, it may not have been that long.
You didn't watch the match, did you?

Rafa hardly ever grunted, hardly ever tugged at his pants and didn't go for the towel nearly as much as he normally does. Nando was the one holding up play.

A few thoughts after the match.

*Rafa didn't serve well today. He hardly won any cheap points on serve. Frew kept saying how he's got lots to learn in the serving department. He won only 45% of points behind his first serve in the 1st set, 64% in the match.

*Rafa was outplayed by Nando in the whole first and most of the second set. Nando was on fire, both his serve and groundstrokes. At times he made Rafa look weak. Rafa managed to win through "sheer cussedness" again. He had one of his mental lapses when serving for the 2nd set, but didn't let the disappointment get to him and raced away with the TB.

*After the 1st TB Nando called for the trainer and had a lower back massage. When he returned to the court, he moved well when playing, but kept wincing and bending between points. Rafa won the first three games easily, and then Nando started to throw caution to the wind and Rafa started to struggle. At this point one thing became clear: Rafa is hopeless at putting an injured opponent away. It was the Djokovic match all over again, except even worse. He just couldn't close out the match. He kept shaking his head in disbelief at Nando, who could barely move between points but kept going for broke and hitting winners. Rafa looked really fed up, he had the disbelieving smile on his face many times, at one point when he was waiting to serve and Nando was going through the wincing/bending thing, Rafa bounced the ball on his head a couple of times. I've never seen him like this, he was really fed up. The handshake at the end was rather cold too.

*Rafa's level dropped compared to yesterday, especially his serve. Lleyton will be extremely difficult unless he plays (serves) much, much better.

*Rafa should stop watching the World Cup matches and watch Tiger Tim's matches instead. In fact, he should study them. It's been a great joy to watch him this week, and I'm not even a fan. Wonderful performance from Tim so far in the tournament, I hope he can keep this up. :yeah:

Clara Bow
06-15-2006, 06:38 PM
At this point one thing became clear: Rafa is hopeless at putting an injured opponent away.

I agreee. This is one thing he really needs to work on. It is rather surprising because Nadal is normally really good at not letting external factors bother him. He seemed like a 20 year old player out there today in that regard, whereas normally I think he has a mentality advanced for most players his age.

Spot on analysis as usual- Mallorn.

MariaV
06-15-2006, 06:41 PM
Mallorn, wow, a long rant. :eek: ;)
Every day is different, he might serve better tomorrow. :D
About the injured opponent - Rafa said after the match vs Djoko that he felt awkward. That's how he is. Our good guy.
But of course Nando was nuts as usual, those insane shots going in in the 3rd set. oh MY! :haha: :haha:

jenanun
06-15-2006, 06:41 PM
*Rafa should stop watching the World Cup matches

TRUE... thats what i m worrying.... this is going to distract him...

probably he was too excited about spain 4-0 win yesterday...

MariaV
06-15-2006, 06:42 PM
TRUE... thats what i m worrying.... this is going to distract him...

probably he was too excited about spain 4-0 win yesterday...
Yep, they might've celebrated a bit too much last night. ;)

almouchie
06-15-2006, 06:44 PM
watching verdasco in the last set
you would think his back wasnt bothering him
great display from 2 lefties
Nadal is making great strides & progress on grass in such a short time
next match against hewitt immense

mallorn
06-15-2006, 06:49 PM
Mallorn, wow, a long rant. :eek: ;)
I was really frustrated by Rafa's inability to close out the third set. I wanted to smash him on the head for not learning anything from the Djokovic match. :o :lol:

A_Skywalker
06-15-2006, 06:52 PM
I was really frustrated by Rafa's inability to close out the third set. I wanted to smash him on the head for not learning anything from the Djokovic match. :o :lol:
I smashed him ... his picture ;)

MariaV
06-15-2006, 06:55 PM
I was really frustrated by Rafa's inability to close out the third set. I wanted to smash him on the head for not learning anything from the Djokovic match. :o :lol:
You have no idea what I've wanted to do with Marat. ;) :lol:
Today was the 1st time I chose Rafa's match over Marat and was right. I would've died watching Marat from what I heard. (Or wanted to strangle him. ;))

Johnny Groove
06-15-2006, 07:02 PM
You have no idea what I've wanted to do with Marat. ;) :lol:
Today was the 1st time I chose Rafa's match over Marat and was right. I would've died watching Marat from what I heard. (Or wanted to strangle him. ;))

Taking nothing away from marat, i love him, but i really hope rafa doesnt end up like him with the :banghead: matches

Bilbo
06-15-2006, 07:06 PM
Hewitt will rip Nadal a new one

mallorn
06-15-2006, 07:06 PM
You have no idea what I've wanted to do with Marat. ;) :lol:
Today was the 1st time I chose Rafa's match over Marat and was right. I would've died watching Marat from what I heard. (Or wanted to strangle him. ;))
:hug: Marat is the worst in this respect, true. I've wanted to do awful things to him as well. :lol: What did he do today?

revolution
06-15-2006, 07:08 PM
How will Hewitt thrash him? They're both defensive players, the problem Nadal had was that in his first match he had a target to aim at (Fish) but Nando is such a powerful player who can hit really punishing forehands, I actually think Hewitt won't be as difficult to play against as he was today.

Nando was unplayable that first set, few on the tour could have competed with that sort of power tennis.

zine56
06-15-2006, 07:09 PM
nice :D! congrats Nadal :)!

Exodus
06-15-2006, 07:14 PM
if it wasn't for all the bad calls in the second set and not to mention in the tie break verdasco would have won easily. he was also clearly injured unlike nadal's banana fake show

rrfnpump
06-15-2006, 07:21 PM
Nando :sad:
me surprised he even made it into TB in last set
was clearly hindered somehow

tangerine_dream
06-15-2006, 07:24 PM
What happened to Verdasco? Banana injury?

Metis
06-15-2006, 07:27 PM
if it wasn't for all the bad calls in the second set and not to mention in the tie break verdasco would have won easily. he was also clearly injured unlike nadal's banana fake show

I don't think it was that clear. It certainly looked strange. One moment he seemed barely able to stand up and the next he hit winners in a row. I can't imagine he could have kept doing that for 1 hour if he was that injured.

As for the bad calls they went both ways :rolleyes:

mallorn
06-15-2006, 07:29 PM
What happened to Verdasco? Banana injury?
No. :) A lower back injury which came out of nowhere and then he also fell and it looked like he hurt his groin.

Exodus
06-15-2006, 07:30 PM
oh please it was like 5-6 bad calls that favored nadal or else verdasco would have destroyed nadal

revolution
06-15-2006, 07:32 PM
oh please it was like 5-6 bad calls that favored nadal or else verdasco would have destroyed nadal

Fedtards always come up with the worst excuses :cool:

mallorn
06-15-2006, 07:32 PM
I don't think it was that clear. It certainly looked strange. One moment he seemed barely able to stand up and the next he hit winners in a row. I can't imagine he could have kept doing that for 1 hour if he was that injured.

As for the bad calls they went both ways :rolleyes:
Yes, it's the second time in what, a week, that Rafa plays an opponent who looks injured between the points but not during the points. Mind you, I don't think he was faking. I just wish Rafa could deal with this better, it was really frustrating to watch.

Correct, there were a few bad calls against Rafa as well. To be expected with no Hawk Eye. :shrug:

blosson
06-15-2006, 07:33 PM
Wow. What a result.

DhammaTiger
06-15-2006, 07:46 PM
I like you loads sweetie but I’ve gotta disagree in regards to Rafa and at times Nando. :hug::

Nando had some great play, with some whizzing winners in the first two sets. Rafa looked “meh” and was not moving as well on grass as yesterday. Then Nando choked a bit in the second set. In the third Nando started grabbing at his back between every point. Between the back grabs he did have some great movement in the points. The announcers cracked me up when they said that Nando looked about 50 years older between the points than he did during the action of the actual points. It was funny because it was true. :lol: Nadal seemed confused by the dichotomy between Nando’s actions between points and his ability during the points. When Nadal had the chance to serve out the match twice he was rather unspectacular to put it kindly. I think Nadal needs to learn how to play against opponents who seem injured between points but move fine during the action. Rafa got too rattled. Nadal did have a couple of great passing shots and a good volley, but overall…I would give his play today the grade of C.
Thanks Clara I like you very much too :hug: :smooch: thanks for correcting me, I only saw the 2nd set set in parts and the 3rd set full, i must admit. Howeve, what I was pointing at was that considering both are labeled as "claycourters"they seemed to be playing good quality tennis. I especially liked nando's back hand down the line. Yes, I admit that Rafa was confused by Nando's injury and ability to play well at the same time, so he was very confused and looked it at times. But I am sure as he will have more play on grass he will be able to focus and play better. Did anyone watch his post match comments?

Clara Bow
06-15-2006, 08:02 PM
thanks for correcting me,

Oh, I hope you don't think I was correcting you. I should have said in my opinion. :)

Did anyone watch his post match comments?

They were pretty much the usual. It was a tough match that he was happy to win. The length of the match helped him get more time to get used to the grass. Hewitt is tough. They asked it he could see himself as the SA champ and he said he couldn't look beyond his match against Lleyton.

I just wish Rafa could deal with this better, it was really frustrating to watch.

Me too. Hopefully that will come with more experience and maturity. Toni should have a talk with him about it though.

mallorn
06-15-2006, 08:12 PM
Me too. Hopefully that will come with more experience and maturity. Toni should have a talk with him about it though.
Toni should box his ears :o but he can't do it very well on the phone. ;)

I don't know, I hope he can learn from this. It was very strange watching him so baffled out there, especially since he had a very similar experience so recently. They should come up with some technique for this kind of situations, because at this point it's a great tactic for his opponents. Just pretend you're injured and you're in with a shot. :o :rolleyes: ;)

mallorn
06-15-2006, 08:16 PM
This picture just about sums it up. ;)

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3940/71181601me048stellaartois06151.jpg

Alexandy
06-15-2006, 08:19 PM
Oh, no. He's back wearing the white capris?!! The navy blue ones were at least a little better.

If you have to wear capris at least go back to the navy ones, Rafa. They made you play better on grass.

scoobs
06-15-2006, 08:22 PM
I think it was a combination of factors. Rafa looked uncomfortable out there for most of the match. His instincts are telling him to do one thing but that doesn't work so well on a grass court. It was the type of match from him I was expecting in the last round, to be honest.

Excellent work from him to grind out the tough victory - circumstances like that are hard to deal with - tough opponent, injured but just swinging for winners, alien surface, confusion over what tactics you need to adopt...a real tough day at the office and he did well to get the win.

Still, it only gets harder now. A certain Hewitt will be looking for some post-RG revenge.

ChloeLove
06-15-2006, 08:24 PM
What an interesting match . . . haha. Well, i'm happy Rafa won, and I do like that picture of him.

scoobs
06-15-2006, 08:26 PM
I have to say, Rafa was pulling some fabulous faces today.

Total "you've got to be fucking joking" faces as well as the "what is this shit?" face above...

:)

Scotso
06-15-2006, 08:27 PM
Rafa :D

Fernando :(

mallorn
06-15-2006, 08:33 PM
I have to say, Rafa was pulling some fabulous faces today.

Total "you've got to be fucking joking" faces as well as the "what is this shit?" face above...

:)
;)

Metis
06-15-2006, 08:34 PM
I think it was a combination of factors. Rafa looked uncomfortable out there for most of the match. His instincts are telling him to do one thing but that doesn't work so well on a grass court. It was the type of match from him I was expecting in the last round, to be honest.



Is it possible that another factor for this bad performance was the fact that Verdasco is also left-handed? It is not very often that players play against a leftie but it is even more rare for lefties to face each other in matches.
On the other hand though these 2 have played against each other before...

scoobs
06-15-2006, 08:39 PM
Is it possible that another factor for this bad performance was the fact that Verdasco is also left-handed? It is not very often that players play against a leftie but it is even more rare for lefties to face each other in matches.
On the other hand though these 2 have played against each other before...
Yeah actually I think that did have an impact. Rafa was cracking his forehand crosscourt and of course it's going to another lefty forehand that Verdasco loves to give a crack to.

I also think because it was a totally different style of match - Fish gave Rafa a lovely target to pass, but Verdasco wanted to trade blows from the baseline - and I have to say, on the faster surface, his forehand was more dangerous than Nadal's today, which was dropping too short and sitting up too often.

Neverstopfightin
06-15-2006, 09:02 PM
After Verdasco slipped and fell on the court in the third set , Nadal came to the net to ask him if he was ok , and Verdasco being quite rude has answered ; " How am i gonna be ok ? ".

Verdasco = :retard:

The handshake after the match hasn't been very effusive :rolleyes: .


Verdasco has split up with Carlos Costa-IMG as manager , though i don't think it has to do with Fernando's behaviour

scoobs
06-15-2006, 09:03 PM
Yeah :)

Nadal's too polite to do a Safin to him but I got the impression it crossed his mind - Verdasco didn't make a friend today that's for sure.

supersexynadal
06-15-2006, 09:11 PM
After Verdasco slipped and fell on the court in the third set , Nadal came to the net to ask him if he was ok , and Verdasco being quite rude has answered ; " How am i gonna be ok ? ".

Verdasco = :retard:

The handshake after the match hasn't been very effusive :rolleyes: .


Verdasco has split up with Carlos Costa-IMG as manager , though i don't think it has to do with Fernando's behaviour
What happened there?? id didnt watch the match...Y would verdasco do that? Hes very polite form what i saw and heard

Neverstopfightin
06-15-2006, 09:21 PM
What happened there?? id didnt watch the match...Y would verdasco do that? Hes very polite form what i saw and heard

Verdasco is a nice guy , good person ,and both Nadal and him are good friends ( but not close friends ), so there are two likely explanations : 1) Verdasco was angry with his bad luck with the injury and needed to let off steam and Nadal was the scapegoat or 2) maybe their relationship isn't in its best moment .

Neverstopfightin
06-15-2006, 09:38 PM
Is it possible that another factor for this bad performance was the fact that Verdasco is also left-handed? It is not very often that players .

As i've said in another thread, the fact Verdasco is lefty has made Nadal's serve seemed quite harmless today from the Deuce side because Nadal's serve down the T is much better than his wide serve from the Deuce side and today he hardly has punished Verdasco's backhand return with his wide serve from that part of the court , on the other hand when he plays against right-handed the 90% of serves from the Deuce side are down the T.

Neverstopfightin
06-15-2006, 09:43 PM
I doubt both your options....

And your own option is ........??.

Carlita
06-15-2006, 09:45 PM
And your own option is ........??.for me to know and for you to find out :p I can't be bothered in this place.... :ras: just forget it.....

Neverstopfightin
06-15-2006, 09:50 PM
mine :p I can't be bothered in this place.... :ras: just forget it.....

I only know the boy who is in your avatar has behaved like a rude moron, when Nadal was being very polite asking him about his health

If he was losing the match or if he was angry because of his injury it wasn't Nadal's fault .

Fer is a good guy but in that moment of the match his brain didn't seem to work ok .

Gulliver
06-15-2006, 09:56 PM
This picture just about sums it up. ;)

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3940/71181601me048stellaartois06151.jpg

Thought it looked familiar. I've seen a lot of players doing the same when Nadal was down the other end either getting ready to serve or holding them up before they could serve ;)

musefanatic
06-15-2006, 10:01 PM
I think Fernando would've had Rafa if he hadn't have got injured. And when he was injured he was playing stunning so imagine him fully fit. I really admired verdasco today, I'm now a bit of a fan of his as he played brilliant. Nadal played ok on many points but i think he'll find it hard against Hewitt tomorrow.

Neverstopfightin
06-15-2006, 10:07 PM
I think Fernando would've had Rafa if he hadn't have got injured. And when he was injured he was playing stunning so imagine him fully fit. I really admired verdasco today, I'm now a bit of a fan of his as he played brilliant. Nadal played ok on many points but i think he'll find it hard against Hewitt tomorrow.

I think it is a bad option for you to become a Verdasco's fan.

With Kimi you have enough suffering and tears :p , adding Verdasco will increase your woes :devil: .

Will you can handle all that pressure ?? :p

mallorn
06-15-2006, 10:08 PM
Thought it looked familiar. I've seen a lot of players doing the same when Nadal was down the other end either getting ready to serve or holding them up before they could serve ;)
Yes, players keep getting frustrated for no good reason...even Rafa. ;)

wally1
06-15-2006, 10:14 PM
This was a really, really entertaining match.

musefanatic
06-15-2006, 10:17 PM
I think it is a bad option for you to become a Verdasco's fan.

With Kimi you have enough suffering and tears :p , adding Verdasco will increase your woes :devil: .

Will you can handle all that pressure ?? :p

You have a real downer on Kimi don't you? :lol: I'll try and handle the pressure best i can, it will be hard but i'll do it :) :lol:

Neverstopfightin
06-16-2006, 07:06 PM
for me to know and for you to find out :p I can't be bothered in this place.... :ras: just forget it.....

I have found it out .

Do you want to listen it ??