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If Federer doesn't win Wimbledon, who do you favor?

henree
06-15-2006, 01:50 AM
For me If Fed somehow didn't make it to the final. I would love to see Safin win it. He always does the unexpected. And since no one expects much from him during grass season. He just may go ahead and make the final.
Really I don't mind who wins as long as it isn't Hewitt or Roddick.

AsianSensation
06-15-2006, 03:22 AM
Haas

Mimi
06-15-2006, 03:24 AM
i want poor Mark P to win :wavey:

dmit424
06-15-2006, 03:25 AM
Hewitt. Maybe Roddick. Maybe Nalby. Maybe Ancic. Maybe Safn. In that order. Maybe.

dmit424
06-15-2006, 03:28 AM
But honestly, the chances of Federer NOT winning it are the same as the chances of Bye winning it. Federer is truly god, on grass. But that's just me. He's far far far ahead of everyone on grass than Nadal is ahead of anyone on clay (with all due respect to Nadal).

IN MY OPINION.

disturb3d
06-15-2006, 03:41 AM
Should Fed tumble out of Wimby: either David or Ivan are winning.
They're ridiculously superior to the rest of the tour on fast, low-bouncing courts.

- Nadal should do well by theory, considering how well he adapted to the 05 indoor season.
- The game has left Lleyton behind.
- Andy will be crushed by anyone in the top 20.

ezekiel
06-15-2006, 03:44 AM
novak djoko, soon the best forehand in the game

dmit424
06-15-2006, 03:51 AM
Should Fed tumble out of Wimby: either David or Ivan are winning.
They're ridiculously superior to the rest of the tour on fast, low-bouncing courts.

- Nadal should do well by theory, considering how well he adapted to the 05 indoor season.
- The game has left Lleyton behind.
- Andy will be crushed by anyone in the top 20.


Nadal you are right about, but ultimately, I think he will tumble out in the 2nd or 3rd round again this year :rolleyes:

Hewitt I think is still pretty good... Remember, 8 of last 9 majors, he loses to eventual winner, which pretty much tells you he always goes pretty deep and beats pretty good players before falling to the eventual champ. He got a set from Nadal and a set from Federer at the US Open 05.

Roddick I think is still a threat on a grass court. If anything, the game has left Roddick behind, because now, there are quite a few players who can bash in huge serves (not quite like Andy's, but still) and so the tour has pretty much adapted to it. When Andy was #1, he was surprising anyone. Now, his serve is still tough, but opponents have had alot of practice from playing similar offensive players. Andy's return game remains one of the weaker ones in the top-100, but he still holds serve with the best... Anyways, my point, actually, is that he was always bad on clay, everyone has caught up on hard, but grass is still suited all too well to Andy's game for him to be counted out.

Nalby is a threat too. Ivan moves too slow, imo, and doesn't have enough variety in his game. His return game is very average. I don't think Ivan is really a threat, and I don't think he would get past Roddick, Nalby, or Hewitt on grass.

Don't forget Ancic. I actually think that if ANYONE can beat Fed, it'll be some surprise, like Ancic or Djokovic. (I guess Ancic isn't too surprising). Ancic's game is just made for grass.
In perspective, however, this is just "what if"... Because everyone knows Fed will win it.

aneevar
06-15-2006, 03:54 AM
imo

1 Andy Roddick ( this has to be his most comfortable surface , reckoning the serve )
though he is low on confidence , a good show at Queens and he may start feeling
confident again .

2 Ivan Lubo . - his good form and serve make him a contender .

3 Nalbandian - had he not been injured , he would have been ahead of Lubo.

4 Ancic - got to have a run some time . Currently seems to be in form . If
confident then can have a run with the serve .

Hewitt - looked resurgent @ FO , always a fighter but will need a suitable draw .

Haas - also resurgent this yr , and in some form off late , he also can be a dark
horse , but dont really see him going all the way .

supertommyhaas
06-15-2006, 03:55 AM
Haas

I can only dream!! Probably won't make it past the 3rd round though!!!

dmit424
06-15-2006, 04:03 AM
Guys, we seriously need to stop thinking of Ljubicic as a threat at Wimbeldon. That toddler is no threat at Wimbeldon.

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity/default.asp?year=0&query=Singles&selTournament=540&player=L360&x=21&y=8

Please see link.

disturb3d
06-15-2006, 04:15 AM
Old results have no meaning.

Ivan never made it past the third round of RG, but was two matches away from the title earlier this month.

Andy may have better grass-court credentials than anyone, but with his form he has no hope in hell of getting past the round of 16.

kronus12
06-15-2006, 04:16 AM
For me it would be roddick if he starts to use his head and serve and volley more instead of staying on the baseline.
Second would be Hewitt i like his chances he still goes deep in the majors and it takes a special player to beat him.
My darkhorse would be Tomas beryach not sure if i spelt that right hes got everything server powerful forehand and a nice feel for the volley.

henree
06-15-2006, 04:19 AM
Lets not forget that Nadal went out to Muller. Who upset Roddick on his best surface as well. I think Nadal will make it to the 4th rd or even the Qtrs. His mental strength and athleticism alone, should take him to the 2nd week. Nalbandian to me is at his best on a faster surface. So if he can recover from his injury in time. He will make it far. Nalby has the best chance of upsetting Fed on Grass. Ljubodick can forget it. He may make it to the Semi's. But that is as far as he is going. HE doesn't have a champions mentality.

dmit424
06-15-2006, 04:19 AM
Old results have no meaning.

Ivan never made it past the third round of RG, but was two matches away from the title earlier this month.

Andy may have better grass-court credentials than anyone, but with his form he has no hope in hell of getting past the round of 16.


That would be true except, Ljubicic has just never ever had good grass results and he played like 4 no-names in a row to get to where he got at RG. In my opinion, he isn't a threat. But I won't completely count him out.

CmonAussie
06-15-2006, 04:21 AM
Assuming Federer doesn`t win this is my list of who I`d like to see win...
1. Hewitt - he has the game but needs more confidence if he gets to the SFs again!
2. Agassi - not likely but it would be a fairytale end to his career & enrich his legacy!
3. Safin - after AO 05 i really thought the mad one was going to make a run at Fed..
4. Nadal - won`t happen, but it would be historic if he could take FO & Wimby back-to-back, & always fun seeing someone confound the critics!
5. Mark P - again won`t happen, but Poo does deserve a Slam- so we can only dream.
6. Blake - if he could pull it off it just may spark a tennis boom in The US??
7. Paradorn - again it`s pie in the sky but wouldn`t it be fantastic for Thailand & Asia!

Having said all that I`d still be happy for Federer to win it again, especially after seeing him so dejected at missing out narrowly on last week`s FO.

name_change
06-15-2006, 04:43 AM
if not fed, then andre. otherwise, nalby.blake.then roddick. then ancic. then nadal.

yomike
06-15-2006, 05:07 AM
If not Federer then Nalbandian.

CmonAussie
06-15-2006, 05:08 AM
If not Federer then Nalbandian.

Yeah Nalby could take it but somehow i hope not.

Jlee
06-15-2006, 05:11 AM
If not Federer? Is that even worth discussing? haha

Roddick has been so close so many times, I'd like to see him get one. If not him then Agassi or Blake. I'm a diehard American fan, what can I say??

Allez
06-15-2006, 06:05 AM
If Roger doesn't win it then I hope Rafa can win it. THAT would be HUGE.

But as that doesn't seem realistic, I don't think you can look past Safin, Hewitt and Roddick to be honest. All grand slam champions.

jenanun
06-15-2006, 06:08 AM
HENMAN.....

nah.... i guess hewitt....

but of course if rafa can do it that will be fantanstic....

flip_fan
06-15-2006, 06:15 AM
Of course my dream scenario would be for Mark to win it... but odds are slim so i'd be happy if either Nalbandian, Haas, or Safin wins it.

Clara Bow
06-15-2006, 06:34 AM
I don't think it will happen at all- but you have to admit if Henman won it in the twilight of his career- that would have to be one of the best stories in the history of tennis. That would just be freaking awesome.


Won't happen though...if Feds doesn't win it, would love to see Nalby win, or Roddick, or Ancic, or Hewitt, or Gonzo... or Dima as a surprise winner. Of course I would love to see Rafa win it because, as has been stated- the back to back RG/W titles have not been done for a while. But that is a pipe dream at this point. I do think that Rafa will down the road be present in the second week- don't think at this juncture he will ever win- but never rule out anything in sport.

Duncan
06-15-2006, 07:05 AM
Henman! ;)

Primal
06-15-2006, 07:44 AM
HENMAN!!! Finally!

If again not, then Safin.

Deea
06-15-2006, 07:53 AM
For me If Fed somehow didn't make it to the final. I would love to see Safin win it. He always does the unexpected. And since no one expects much from him during grass season. He just may go ahead and make the final.
Really I don't mind who wins as long as it isn't Hewitt or Roddick.

I couldn't agree more! :yeah:

Mrs. B
06-15-2006, 09:22 AM
Tim Henman!!!

iloveupeterpan
06-15-2006, 09:38 AM
IN MY OPINION

andy is no longer a threat to rogi.....
you will understand why if you watch the Wimby final in 2005



Nalby is more like a threat to rogi

yanchr
06-15-2006, 10:09 AM
-If Federer doesn't win Wimbledon, who do you favor?

ROGER.

Norrage
06-15-2006, 11:40 AM
Henman or Hewitt! :)

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 03:01 PM
Hewitt or Roddick. I would put Safin but he really dislikes grass.

God I don't even want to phathom such a thought.

Federer&Hingis
06-15-2006, 03:04 PM
Richard Gasquet.

lucashg
06-15-2006, 03:10 PM
Gasquet would be a very nice and welcome surprise winner if Roger doesn't win. However, I think, want and hope Fed wins Wimbledon. :)

Conita
06-15-2006, 03:21 PM
IMO

Roddick
Nalbi
Gonzalez
Hewitt
Gasquet
Ljubicic

any1 of them taking it would make me very happy :D

Conita
06-15-2006, 03:22 PM
ohh yer forgot Henman :hug:

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 03:37 PM
Gasquet would be a very nice and welcome surprise winner if Roger doesn't win. However, I think, want and hope Fed wins Wimbledon. :)

It'd be nice in this circumstance but I think he's too inconsistent to make it past the wimby quarters.

richie21
06-15-2006, 09:08 PM
But honestly, the chances of Federer NOT winning it are the same as the chances of Bye winning it. Federer is truly god, on grass. But that's just me. He's far far far ahead of everyone on grass than Nadal is ahead of anyone on clay (with all due respect to Nadal).

IN MY OPINION.


Gasquet nearly proved you wrong today :)

marifline
06-15-2006, 09:31 PM
The problem with Gasquet is not his game or level or talent : he showed today he could bother the king of grass on his surface...The real problem is his attitude, mental strenght ans as said Federerhingis his lack of consistence, and I would say his nonchalance.. :o
But if he should make an upset a Slam, it would certainly be in Wimbledon more than anywhere else... Grass suits him well, his stamina ( wich he has improved BTW) is no longer the main problem here.
As for other potential winner I would say Hewitt who showed interesting things at the FO and anyway has ever won it :p Ancic for the same first reason, very dangerous player now, and grass is his surface and I would add Tursunocv who is definitely one to watch on grass.

Argenbrit
06-15-2006, 09:43 PM
Nalbandian, Gasquet and Henman (I still root for Henman in Wimbly *sigh*).

And why does the thread starter suppose I'll be rooting for Federer in Wimbledon? Even if he does win, I'll be supporting other players along the way. For a change. :)

richie21
06-15-2006, 09:48 PM
The problem with Gasquet is not his game or level or talent : he showed today he could bother the king of grass on his surface...The real problem is his attitude, mental strenght ans as said Federerhingis his lack of consistence, and I would say his nonchalance.. :o
.

i don t think it's that true.(it was really true when he was a bit younger but not anymore ,even though there is still some lapses as it was showed against Nalby in RG)

remember last year ,he beat Federer saving many match points and he also beat Ljubicic at USOPEN in a five setters with basicly no serve!!( because of that fucking elbow injury :mad: )
that alone shows that the guy is not as weak mentally as you think.

i think that this (grave) elbow injury he had in USOPEN really stopped his momentum.......not to mention all the other injuries he has had for the last 4 months.

i would just like to see him having an injury free season .....then i think we will know better about his strenghts and his real weaknesses

JimmyV
06-15-2006, 09:55 PM
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1404/motivator77d448b126bcd029b13db.jpg

Matty
06-15-2006, 10:06 PM
Roddick,Ancic,Hewitt or maybe even Henman :)

skel1983
06-15-2006, 10:36 PM
Old results have no meaning.

Ivan never made it past the third round of RG, but was two matches away from the title earlier this month.

Andy may have better grass-court credentials than anyone, but with his form he has no hope in hell of getting past the round of 16.

Ljubicic played nothing but clay until he was 15, he also made TMS Clay semis, he has no chance at Wimby 3/4th round at best.

Fedex
06-15-2006, 10:39 PM
Nalbandian and Ljubicic. And Roddick is always dangerous on a grass court so who knows? Of course, all of these guys are still long shots to win it as long as Federer's in the draw.

new-york
06-15-2006, 10:40 PM
Well, i would love to see Gasquet, Blake or PMH winning, but chances of that happening are not that high.

goran_the_2nd
06-15-2006, 11:19 PM
the one who does have a real chance to beat roger on grass is ancic. not just cuz he is the last one that beat him on grass, but cuz he has the best game for grass on tour (eventho roger is still big favorite against him). and by the way, ancic is also in best form of his life.

oh, and no, ljubo wont go far in wimbledon... i saw him today against monfils, thats not a game for grass. and also, he'll always say that he doesnt know how to play on grass, he's lost.

mr_burns
06-15-2006, 11:32 PM
Kiefer, Nalbandian or haas...they all should get a slam...maybe grosjean

mr_burns
06-15-2006, 11:34 PM
Of course Henman, how could I forget him


that would be amazing

drf716
06-16-2006, 02:00 AM
the person who does beat him

fenomeno2111
06-16-2006, 02:14 AM
For me it would be roddick if he starts to use his head and serve and volley more instead of staying on the baseline.
Second would be Hewitt i like his chances he still goes deep in the majors and it takes a special player to beat him.
My darkhorse would be Tomas beryach not sure if i spelt that right hes got everything server powerful forehand and a nice feel for the volley.
Andy does better when he stays in the baseline in my opinion...He's horrible at the net

marifline
06-16-2006, 09:05 AM
i don t think it's that true.(it was really true when he was a bit younger but not anymore ,even though there is still some lapses as it was showed against Nalby in RG)

remember last year ,he beat Federer saving many match points and he also beat Ljubicic at USOPEN in a five setters with basicly no serve!!( because of that fucking elbow injury :mad: )
that alone shows that the guy is not as weak mentally as you think.

i think that this (grave) elbow injury he had in USOPEN really stopped his momentum.......not to mention all the other injuries he has had for the last 4 months.

i would just like to see him having an injury free season .....then i think we will know better about his strenghts and his real weaknesses


Yes he has improved about that, but I still think he need to change some thiongs...victory against Fed happened when he was still complex free, he has nothing to prove...I didn't say he was "weak" I mean that's his attitude in RG for example he gave up the match in the lats set against Nalbandian.
But perhaps I am wrong and it was just because of the lack of match and inujuries as you said... but I stilll think he wold need a bit more aggressivity it can be wrong...

Viken01
06-16-2006, 10:03 AM
nalbandian :bounce:

stebs
06-16-2006, 11:22 AM
Henman of course. :)