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is fed ever gonna be put to sleep on grass??

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 09:46 PM
nadal will do it... :angel:

Horatio Caine
06-14-2006, 09:50 PM
Re Nadal - don't be daft

Saumon
06-14-2006, 09:50 PM
Marat in the 3rd round :devil:

dmit424
06-14-2006, 09:50 PM
How can you not include Hewitt if you put in Ljubicic and... Henman!!! But out of those, I just have to go with either Nalby (because he has confidence and has beaten him) or Nadal (because there's no reason to believe he can't improve on grass and he also has confidence) because the rest don't have a chance, that's almost a fact.

jenanun
06-14-2006, 09:52 PM
yay henman!!!!

dmit424
06-14-2006, 09:53 PM
Oh yeah, you have to include Marat too, if he ever sees a psychiatrist. Australia has some good ones.

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 09:53 PM
i don't think hewitt stands a chance against fed on grass....or anywhere....he got a double baggle the last time they played!!
ljubo....he's to much of a bitch to give fed a real match....(joke)
nalby has a real chance.....but i'm sticking to nadal :angel:

dmit424
06-14-2006, 09:56 PM
No, I think it's ignorant to think Nadal can't do it. I don't see how people can just say that he can't ever do it. This year, ofcourse not (imo). But before that 5-setter at Nasdaq two years ago, everyone was completely laughing at the possibility of him beating Fed on hard, and he's done it twice in a row now. Why not grass? His serve is clearly better already. Give him 2 years.

What if he beats Hewitt in a few days? Hewitt is no Federer, but he's still good on grass. Ofcourse that's a "what if". but if he beats Hewitt, people seriously need to acknowledge that in the future, he may beat Roger on grass, beacuse Hewitt is a former well-deserved Wilmbeldon champion.

ezekiel
06-14-2006, 09:57 PM
watch out this year :)

dmit424
06-14-2006, 09:57 PM
i don't think hewitt stands a chance against fed on grass....or anywhere....he got a double baggle the last time they played!!
ljubo....he's to much of a bitch to give fed a real match....(joke)
nalby has a real chance.....but i'm sticking to nadal :angel:

What are you talking about? He took a set off of Federer at the U.S. Open last time they played, last August? And no bagels in that one. But still, you have to put him if you put Henman!!!

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 09:59 PM
i only remember lleyton getting two bagels in two sets and i think the last was a tie breaker.... :wavey:

Horatio Caine
06-14-2006, 10:02 PM
No, I think it's ignorant to think Nadal can't do it. I don't see how people can just say that he can't ever do it. This year, ofcourse not (imo). But before that 5-setter at Nasdaq two years ago, everyone was completely laughing at the possibility of him beating Fed on hard, and he's done it twice in a row now. Why not grass? His serve is clearly better already. Give him 2 years.

What if he beats Hewitt in a few days? Hewitt is no Federer, but he's still good on grass. Ofcourse that's a "what if". but if he beats Hewitt, people seriously need to acknowledge that in the future, he may beat Roger on grass, beacuse Hewitt is a former well-deserved Wilmbeldon champion.

Nadal won't beat Federer on grass this season...and probably not in the next few years either. There is a high possibility they might never meet on grass anyway :shrug:

Skyward
06-14-2006, 10:03 PM
who will end fed's undeserved win streak

:rolleyes:

What is this supposed to mean?

dmit424
06-14-2006, 10:03 PM
Nadal won't beat Federer on grass this season...and probably not in the next few years either. There is a high possibility they might never meet on grass anyway :shrug:


No, not yet. Not this year or next. But it will happen. Nadal was in the third round as a 17 yr old.

He's an animal and very adaptable :devil:

Horatio Caine
06-14-2006, 10:03 PM
i only remember lleyton getting two bagels in two sets and i think the last was a tie breaker.... :wavey:

But he won 0 sets out of 3 so he got nowhere :lol: :scratch:

Horatio Caine
06-14-2006, 10:06 PM
The fact is...Federer will lose on grass at some point (obviously).

I share the same view of a few others on these forums in thinking that it will be this year...but as to who, it is too difficult to say. The list of possible candidates should really include about 20 players...Ancic and Karlovic are huge threats for instance.

dmit424
06-14-2006, 10:07 PM
No, I have to go with Nadal. Who else do you go with?

soonha
06-14-2006, 10:13 PM
No, I think it's ignorant to think Nadal can't do it. I don't see how people can just say that he can't ever do it. This year, ofcourse not (imo). But before that 5-setter at Nasdaq two years ago, everyone was completely laughing at the possibility of him beating Fed on hard, and he's done it twice in a row now. Why not grass? His serve is clearly better already. Give him 2 years.
Let me correct you. Nadal beat Fed in Miami 2004 and in Dubai 2006 on hard. The 5-setter was last year. And as far as I recall, at that time nobody who has an IQ over average was laughing at the possibility for Nadal to beat Fed on hard court because he had already done in the previous year.

BTW, what do you think Nadal is? Almighty? Just give him a break.

R.Federer
06-14-2006, 10:15 PM
It truly is undeserved
Imagine, an unfriendly tennis player with no talent running up a streak like that
Truly undeserved ...

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 10:36 PM
But he won 0 sets out of 3 so he got nowhere :lol: :scratch:
exactly...couldn't have said it better!!!!! :angel:

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 10:38 PM
It truly is undeserved
Imagine, an unfriendly tennis player with no talent running up a streak like that
Truly undeserved ...
:worship: :angel:

oneandonlyhsn
06-14-2006, 10:41 PM
The real question is how people come up with all these new threads day after day?

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 10:43 PM
;) :rolleyes:

Saumon
06-14-2006, 10:45 PM
No, I have to go with Nadal. Who else do you go with?
I don't say Nadal can't beat Roger on grass but it would mean he would have reached a final on grass :scratch: :shrug:

kittysweet
06-14-2006, 10:46 PM
which he eventually will... :angel:

rofe
06-14-2006, 10:50 PM
The real question is how people come up with all these new threads day after day?

It is as easy to create a new thread as it is to jump on a bandwagon...

mangoes
06-14-2006, 10:56 PM
nadal will do it... :angel:

When will you stop posting theads hoping for Roger to lose??

When will you grow the fuck up??

When is high school starting for you??

Skyward
06-14-2006, 10:58 PM
When is high school starting for you??

In 14 years or so. :shrug:

mangoes
06-14-2006, 11:01 PM
In 14 years or so. :shrug:


I didn't realize I was speaking to someone so young :o and I used the word fuck to her :o :o :o ......... I really need to watch my language around children.

Purple Rainbow
06-14-2006, 11:10 PM
The word undeserved just made me not like you.

Horatio Caine
06-14-2006, 11:13 PM
which he eventually will... :angel:

He will more than likely be served off court by any half-decent player on grass. Yes, he might reach a final on grass...but it isn't too likely, especially as the grass season is so short.

nobama
06-15-2006, 01:21 AM
Are you sure you're not related to nadalgirl26 who posts on the TW boards? She claims IF Nadal wins Wimbledon and US Open then he will have a calander slam because had he played AO he would have won it too. Hey, maybe you are nadalgirl26... :lol:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=102696

Argenbrit
06-15-2006, 01:38 AM
I can't believe Nadal has the highest number of votes on this thread. Clay season is over people, over. Nadal on clay is not the same as the Nadal on grass. He has to do better than 2nd or 3rd rd on grass to prove me wrong.

g35-great
06-15-2006, 01:47 AM
nadal will do it... :angel:

me doing u is more likely to happen than that gay beating federer in grass :angel:

Bibberz
06-15-2006, 02:56 AM
It will be none other than Ivo "The Giant Killer" (how's that for irony?) Karlovic. I think he could pull off three tie breakers at Wimbledon.

dmit424
06-15-2006, 03:09 AM
Let me correct you. Nadal beat Fed in Miami 2004 and in Dubai 2006 on hard. The 5-setter was last year. And as far as I recall, at that time nobody who has an IQ over average was laughing at the possibility for Nadal to beat Fed on hard court because he had already done in the previous year.

BTW, what do you think Nadal is? Almighty? Just give him a break.


Myyyy goodness. Okay, my mistake, I meant BEFORE he beat Fed, no one thoguht he would be a danger. No matter, I think Fed was taken off guard, more than anything... Just read on... In 04, Hewitt straight-setted Nadal at the AO. Youzhny handled in Dubai. Gonzales beat him at Miami. Hewitt again in Montreal first round. Handled by Chela first round in Cincy. Roddick KILLED him 6-0, 6-3, 6-4 in 1st round of the US Open. These are all on hard, you understand.

In 05, he suddenly makes the R16 in AO, loses to Hewitt in 5 this time... Loses to Federer in 5 in Miami final... Wins in Montreal, beating Agassi... Out in 1st to Berdych in Cincy, tough loss... Makes 3rd round of U.S. Open before falling to Blake... In 06, wins Dubai ofcourse, skips Aussie, reaches semis in Indian Wells...

You see how he's been getting much better results on hard than he had been before? It's called getting better.

But anyways, what's up with the "almighty" comment. What do YOU think, is Federer almighty? Lol. Well Nadal is 6-1 against him. Nadal was good on clay, but bad on hard. Then he was king of clay, and good on hard, and now he is probably a threat to win the U.S. Open this year and Aussie next. You could not have said that in 2004, really. He got that win over Fed, yeah, but ultimately, he was pretty bad on hard in 04. Now he's very good, two years later. Your obsession with Federer and hate for Nadal is disgusting.

I guess it sucks that you can't be a fan of both. No doubt Federer is better overall right now, but perhaps you missed the title of the thread and the options in the poll, and decided to use your space to b1tch instead of reply to the thread. Brilliant! :worship:

soonha
06-15-2006, 08:10 AM
Myyyy goodness. Okay, my mistake, I meant BEFORE he beat Fed, no one thoguht he would be a danger. No matter, I think Fed was taken off guard, more than anything... Just read on... In 04, Hewitt straight-setted Nadal at the AO. Youzhny handled in Dubai. Gonzales beat him at Miami. Hewitt again in Montreal first round. Handled by Chela first round in Cincy. Roddick KILLED him 6-0, 6-3, 6-4 in 1st round of the US Open. These are all on hard, you understand.

In 05, he suddenly makes the R16 in AO, loses to Hewitt in 5 this time... Loses to Federer in 5 in Miami final... Wins in Montreal, beating Agassi... Out in 1st to Berdych in Cincy, tough loss... Makes 3rd round of U.S. Open before falling to Blake... In 06, wins Dubai ofcourse, skips Aussie, reaches semis in Indian Wells...

You see how he's been getting much better results on hard than he had been before? It's called getting better.
What's your problem with my comments? I was saying that Nadal had ALREADY beaten Fed on hard in Miami 2004(when he was only 17 something). And AFTER then he did even better on hard court as you said. For that reason people who had some insight didn't underestimate Nadal's potential to beat Fed again when he reached the final in Miami 2005, which was all I was saying. So did I disgrace or undergrade him? No. Not at all. I just corrected your "mistake". Nothing more, nothing less.

But anyways, what's up with the "almighty" comment. What do YOU think, is Federer almighty? Lol. Well Nadal is 6-1 against him. Nadal was good on clay, but bad on hard. Then he was king of clay, and good on hard, and now he is probably a threat to win the U.S. Open this year and Aussie next. You could not have said that in 2004, really. He got that win over Fed, yeah, but ultimately, he was pretty bad on hard in 04. Now he's very good, two years later. Your obsession with Federer and hate for Nadal is disgusting.

I guess it sucks that you can't be a fan of both. No doubt Federer is better overall right now, but perhaps you missed the title of the thread and the options in the poll, and decided to use your space to b1tch instead of reply to the thread. Brilliant! :worship:
OK, first if you felt offended by my expression, then I apologize. But I should say that, to my eyes, you were not only misunderstanding my points but also overreacting here with some disturbing comments on me.

I meant that you had to "give him(Nadal) a break" since he is not "Almighty" (which nobody is, isn't it?). I NEVER said he wouldn't ever be able to beat Fed on grass. As you said "he's done(beat Fed) it twice in a row now. Why not grass? His serve is clearly better already. Give him 2 years", I just got an impression that you were too hasty in expectation. At the moment we all know that his game is not the one for grass. You know it. I know it. Even HE knows it. He said before that his goal in coming Wimbledon was 'to improve', not to win. He needs to change many aspects of his game. Definitely it won't be easy for him to adjust his game and mentality to grass quickly, esp. right after coming from FO. Besides grass season is too short, just a month at max in a year. Then do you still think it is realistic for him to beat the best player on grass in 2 years(= 2 months of preparation)? I thought not. I thought it was unfair for him to be expected to do it. I thought you had to give more time to Nadal. That's all.

So then what's your "federer almighty" comment got to do with my points? As I said, I posted previous one in order to correct your mistake. Replying to the thread was not my intention in the first place. BTW, since when posters in this forum should ONLY reply a thread? Thanks anyway for your compliment.

heya
06-15-2006, 08:10 AM
Federer: "Well, as long as I win it's all good. Expectations are not
very high in a first match like this. Especially coming from the final,
getting over it, more emotionally in a way, being exhausted from all
the pressure. Then three days later being on a totally different
surface in the first round best of three sets. It's such a big
difference that you can't expect yourself to play well."

"Getting used to quick points
instead of long rallies, getting used to the slice serve instead of the
kick serve, getting used to the little steps instead of the sliding. It
adds up and is a lot. This transition is tough and this is why we have
many players, who actually don't like this surface, who can't
really move on this surface. Thank God I'm not one of them."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-french12jun12,1,6898515.story?coll=la-headlines-sports His coach, Tony Roche, called it a "funny match," lamenting Federer's
blown service game early in the second set, after leading, 40-0, which
turned the match, and four wasted break points in the fourth game of
the third set.

"Nadal, to his credit, he was too tough on the big points," Roche said.
"Roger's backhand I just thought let him down badly. It just wasn't on
fire today for whatever reason."

Federer - who was 7-0 in Slam finals, a streak ended by Nadal on
Sunday - was not as aggressive as he was last month against the
Spaniard in the Italian Open final, in which he had two match points
before losing. Perhaps the weight of history kept him from moving
forward often enough.

"I would have thought he would have taken it to him a lot more, like in
Rome," Roche said. "I thought he attacked a lot more, sort of picked
his spots with Nadal's backhand. Whereas today, I think he struggled
with that."

Federer seemed strangely flat even when he received a lifeline of sorts
by reaching the fourth-set tiebreaker. But after leading, 2-1, he lost
the next four points, surprising longtime observers.

"And he walked past him like it was juniors versus the man," said
three-time champion Mats Wilander. "David and Goliath, but the opposite
direction. Very strange."

Norrage
06-15-2006, 09:00 AM
I can't believe Nadal has the highest number of votes on this thread. Clay season is over people, over. Nadal on clay is not the same as the Nadal on grass. He has to do better than 2nd or 3rd rd on grass to prove me wrong.
but he is still more likely to beat fed than the others...they have zero chance.

madmanfool
06-15-2006, 09:10 AM
I give Ancic the best chance

Monteque
06-15-2006, 09:22 AM
On grass, only his excessive UEs can bring him down, no more.

Nadal will never beat Fed on grass, just like Fed never be the winner against Nadal on clay.

yanchr
06-15-2006, 10:07 AM
who will end fed's undeserved win streak (if possible)
That's the first and last thing I read here...

Why not just say, Nadal will kick his ass on grass, instead of coming up with such a fake poll...*PUKE*

g35-great
06-15-2006, 10:19 AM
Way to be homophobic, illiterate, and disgusting in twenty words or less.

what is homophobic, illiterate and disgusting? me or a slut who calls the federer as undeserved winning streak in grass? if thats her opinion then nadal being gay is my opinion. :cool:

maria87
06-15-2006, 10:40 AM
YOU DO FORGET MARAT!!!

he almost beat him in Halle's finals last year...

For the record: in Halle's first round in the past days, Federer won over an unknowed player 267 in the Ranking with almost the same score of Marat beating Serra
7/4, 6-3 for Marat, 7/4, 6-2 for Federer

so watch out Federer!! he always has fear facing Marat...if Marat could return to form, watch out!

maria87
06-15-2006, 10:45 AM
the opponent for Federer was 267 in the Ranking
the opponent Serra for Marat was 44 in the Ranking

and as i said Marat wins with almost the same score than Federer :wavey:

Viken01
06-15-2006, 11:17 AM
i think nalby or henman

DDrago2
06-15-2006, 12:03 PM
I give Ancic the best chance

Agreed. The last man to beat him anyway.

But Federer can loose from alot of players on grass. Most people think he is "unbeatable" on grass, but that only shows how happy-go-lucky vision they have. Expecially those who don't like Federer believe he is unbeatable on grass.

nobama
06-15-2006, 12:52 PM
the opponent for Federer was 267 in the Ranking
the opponent Serra for Marat was 44 in the Ranking

and as i said Marat wins with almost the same score than Federer :wavey:So? What's your point? Who cares about ranking when it's a guy you've never played before and probably know not much about.

nobama
06-15-2006, 12:56 PM
YOU DO FORGET MARAT!!!

he almost beat him in Halle's finals last year...

For the record: in Halle's first round in the past days, Federer won over an unknowed player 267 in the Ranking with almost the same score of Marat beating Serra
7/4, 6-3 for Marat, 7/4, 6-2 for Federer

so watch out Federer!! he always has fear facing Marat...if Marat could return to form, watch out!IF Marat is in-form on the day anyone would need to watch out - Nadal, Federer or anyone else. But Marat didn't just come from the finals of RG with only two days preparation for the grass. So comparing the two is meaningless, IMO.

disturb3d
06-15-2006, 12:56 PM
Who watching Gasquet and Fed? Seems like a tight match.

sampaio
06-15-2006, 01:00 PM
who will end fed's undeserved win streak

nobody but Gasquet

Kristen
06-15-2006, 01:24 PM
MTF should hand out vMedication when they approve memberships. Goodness knows we need it here!

sampaio
06-15-2006, 01:27 PM
MTF should hand out vMedication when they approve memberships. Goodness knows we need it here!


Tell me about it.

prima donna
06-15-2006, 01:35 PM
SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE MOST TALENTED PLAYER OF ALL TIME. IDIOTS.

dkw
06-15-2006, 02:41 PM
And your point is???

Conita
06-15-2006, 03:35 PM
mm i vote for other
but u dnt have that option :P

RonE
06-15-2006, 03:39 PM
"Put to sleep on grass" :lol:

Well he is a rabid dog on this surface and his bite is deadly :devil:

Ancic is someone who can give him pretty stiff competition. Even on the clay he played him tough and his game suits the surface very well- big serve, good hard compound groundies, very good net game.

Hola Mr. SK
06-15-2006, 03:44 PM
only by King Ivo!

ezekiel
06-15-2006, 03:45 PM
you betcha,
So far he has been sweating it against Gasquet and some annonymous guy :confused:

Federerhingis
06-15-2006, 03:48 PM
"Put to sleep on grass" :lol:

Well he is a rabid dog on this surface and his bite is deadly :devil:

Ancic is someone who can give him pretty stiff competition. Even on the clay he played him tough and his game suits the surface very well- big serve, good hard compound groundies, very good net game.

Yup Mario seems like the biggest threat and watch him be placed on Roge's quarter.

kittysweet
06-15-2006, 04:27 PM
It will be none other than Ivo "The Giant Killer" (how's that for irony?) Karlovic. I think he could pull off three tie breakers at Wimbledon.
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :angel:

kittysweet
06-15-2006, 04:30 PM
i think nalby or henman
HENMAN???????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????? :eek:

BlakeorHenman
06-15-2006, 05:25 PM
If Henman drew Roger in Round 1, he'd have quite a chance I think.

kittysweet
06-15-2006, 06:18 PM
blakeorhenman.....i love ur avator...marat's gorgeuos :angel: