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I'm no longer a fan of Federer's!

Tennis Fool
06-13-2006, 03:00 AM
Ha! As you may know, I had a bet with my 70-year-old colleague on who'd win the French Open final. Well, I won the bet.

My friend, Ian, was flabbergasted. He put the $1 on my desk with a note: "I might have lost still, but I could have played smarter, with a lot of more fire & effort than I did. Roger Federer."

Ian is a fun guy so don't take this post as a bashing. He's also casual tennis fan (he's a big baseball and NFL fan as well) and thought nobody could beat Federer, who he liked becasue he's "a cool character".

Then he saw the final. "What a disappointment!" he said. He was so struck by Federer's bad tennis that he interjected comments to me throughout the day.

"Na-dal was jumping up and down and Federer stood there with his hands in his pockets. He should've projected more excitement."

"I hope he and Na-dal don't meet again on grass. I think Na-dal would win." :lol:

"Just wait until the British press gets a hold of him. They'll make a cartoon of Na-dal walking on the court with Federer carrying his bags." :lol: :lol:

"Even Tony Roche looked disgusted. I saw him pull his cap down over his eyes."

He also observed Rafa's rituals of lining up his water bottles. He thought that was funny.

One other observation. He knew of Nalbandian, who I said was once Federer's nemesis. "Yeah, Nalbandian. He's one scary-looking dude." :lol:

So, this is my French Open conversation with a casual fan. Did anyone else watch with someone who doesn't obsessively follow tennis?

NYCtennisfan
06-13-2006, 03:18 AM
Interesting. I wonder if this guy ever watched a game where Barry Bonds struck out multiple times or a game when Joe Montana threw multiple interceptions?

Chloe le Bopper
06-13-2006, 03:21 AM
I tried to discuss tennis with my roomates once. They lost interest in the women after i told them venus and serena had either lost or weren't playing... as for the men, they were sad that Blake lost and thought Nadal was "cool". I'm not sure I will try this conversation with them again :D

Tennis Fool
06-13-2006, 03:21 AM
Interesting. I wonder if this guy ever watched a game where Barry Bonds struck out multiple times or a game when Joe Montana threw multiple interceptions?
Yeah, but as Bud wrote, history was on the line, and Federer blew it. ;) (I'm playing devil's advocate here.)

CmonAussie
06-13-2006, 03:22 AM
Yeah I watched the final with my girlfriend & it`s only the 2nd time she`s watched a tennis match, the other being this year`s Aussie Open final.
-->>She immediately noticed the prize fighting aura of Nadal,-the bouncing around at the coin toss & the sprint to the baseline, it wasn`t quite tennis but heck it was amusing. Also she noticed that Federer`s got all the shots in the book but there were too many shanks & the backhand failed him under pressure. BUT the LASTING IMPRESSION was that Rafa is a god damn freak with his retrieving abilities- my girlfriend couldn`t give a Kafelnekov about Nadal`s looks[she said Federer appeals more] but to watch Rafa return everything Federer through at him, & with interest, transformed her into an instant fan!

For people who don`t really know their tennis they probably wouldn`t realise how difficult it is to do what Federer does. However watching Nadal`s expressive & physical style it seems like a revelation to a lot of people that tennis can be such an explosive game.

If the ATP & media promote Fed & Rafa properly & the rivalry continues a few years then those two could be responsible for a massive boom in the sports popularity Worldwide. It`s already happening but tennis still should be getting much more coverage,^hopefully these two freaks of nature can steal the headlines they deserve.

Tennis Fool
06-13-2006, 03:23 AM
I tried to discuss tennis with my roomates once. They lost interest in the women after i told them venus and serena had either lost or weren't playing... as for the men, they were sad that Blake lost and thought Nadal was "cool". I'm not sure I will try this conversation with them again :D
Understandble to grab the American stars when there are no Canadian ones (I'm assuming your friends are Canadian).

Federerhingis
06-13-2006, 03:24 AM
I tried to discuss tennis with my roomates once. They lost interest in the women after i told them venus and serena had either lost or weren't playing... as for the men, they were sad that Blake lost and thought Nadal was "cool". I'm not sure I will try this conversation with them again :D

Yes it's quite difficult to try to expose tennis to those who don't really follow or care for the sport. Let alone trying to put ESPN on the common area room when it's showing tennis. :tape: Gosh I hated it when I left my tv at home and had no tv on campus.

R.Federer
06-13-2006, 03:25 AM
Hi Tennis Fool!

Tennis Fool
06-13-2006, 03:27 AM
Hi Tennis Fool!
Hi :wavey: What are the papers saying in Switzerland?

atheneglaukopis
06-13-2006, 03:32 AM
:lol: Tourmalante flashback until I saw who started the thread.

Tennis Fool
06-13-2006, 03:34 AM
:lol: Tourmalante flashback until I saw who started the thread.
I hope he's alright :scared:

R.Federer
06-13-2006, 03:37 AM
Hi :wavey: What are the papers saying in Switzerland?
The good thing about the Swiss is that they welcome all news with the same poker face. "Hingis won her fifth slam" is reported with about as much flowery language as "Hingis lost her first round" (although they have got a bit worked up about Roger in the last few years; always treated poor Marti as the Swiss-wannabe)
www.swissinfo.org and blick.ch are the two places you can read about it a bit; I'm also partial to nzz.ch

Federerhingis
06-13-2006, 03:41 AM
The good thing about the Swiss is that they welcome all news with the same poker face. "Hingis won her fifth slam" is reported with about as much flowery language as "Hingis lost her first round" (although they have got a bit worked up about Roger in the last few years; always treated poor Marti as the Swiss-wannabe)
www.swissinfo.org and blick.ch are the two places you can read about it a bit; I'm also partial to nzz.ch

So very true, she's still not loved by any stretch I am sure. Too brash, outspoken and famous to be liked by the swiss. My dad loves her and he was born in Lucerne. He may be the exception however, he just happened to be born there and lived there for a large part of his formative years.

Chloe le Bopper
06-13-2006, 03:48 AM
Understandble to grab the American stars when there are no Canadian ones (I'm assuming your friends are Canadian).

They're actually Nigerian :D

Chloe le Bopper
06-13-2006, 03:50 AM
Yes it's quite difficult to try to expose tennis to those who don't really follow or care for the sport. Let alone trying to put ESPN on the common area room when it's showing tennis. :tape: Gosh I hated it when I left my tv at home and had no tv on campus.
I could usually get away with tennis in the common room... the guys I shared the Hall with tolerated it, since "it's sports, sports are cool" and the girls were too busy making valentines or some shit. I wish I was just stereotyping, but this is really how it went down.

Once I even overheard some random students have a conversation about the USO and Lleyton Hewitt on the bus :lol:

Federerhingis
06-13-2006, 03:57 AM
I could usually get away with tennis in the common room... the guys I shared the Hall with tolerated it, since "it's sports, sports are cool" and the girls were too busy making valentines or some shit. I wish I was just stereotyping, but this is really how it went down.

Once I even overheard some random students have a conversation about the USO and Lleyton Hewitt on the bus :lol:

You've got to be kidding me. Lleyton of all? :lol: That's awesome, or were they just tearing him to pieces?

Where do or did you go to school?

Scotso
06-13-2006, 04:30 AM
I never talk about tennis with non-hardcore fans. They just don't get it.

jole
06-13-2006, 04:32 AM
:lol: Tourmalante flashback until I saw who started the thread.

I'd venture a guess that he/she is in a bad state right now.

Chloe le Bopper
06-13-2006, 04:35 AM
You've got to be kidding me. Lleyton of all? :lol: That's awesome, or were they just tearing him to pieces?

Where do or did you go to school?

This was quite a while ago... it may well have been when Hewitt was defending champion. They were speaking fondly of him, the guy going on about him thought he was awesome. I wasn't a fan of Hewitt, but I was happy to hear people talking about him on the bus :p

University of Guelph :p

Metis
06-13-2006, 05:23 AM
Well, on Saturday I was explaining to a couple of friends of mine why I couldn't go for brunch with them yesterday and why the Fed-Nadal match was particularly exciting and important to watch. I was completely fired up and at some point I realized they were patiently smiling at me. That reminded me of the way I react when some people start passionately talking to me about the football world cup (boring! -unless my country participates, which happens once in a blue moon). So I decided to shut up and change the subject. :)

admiralpye
06-13-2006, 06:08 AM
Well, my mother's take on the match (she's not really a tennis fan either) is that Federer got too intimidated by Nadal. Of course, we all know it's more complicated than that, and Federer has a strong will himself in spite of his cool demeanor.

But my mother sincerely believed that Rafa won because scared the living daylights out of Fed with his dancing around, etc. LOL!

heya
06-13-2006, 10:36 PM
Brad Gilbert, Mary Carillo, Bud Collins, Drysdale and the McEnroe brothers need
to feel like they're immaculate paintings. So, they kiss up to the Williams sistas and Federer. Other players, especially big servers, have no value.

Sadly, after listening to these tennis geniuses, the young players' parents really want Brad Gilbert to coach them.

DDrago2
06-13-2006, 10:58 PM
It seems that people who didn't follow tennis recently have very distorted picture of Federer.If his loss in RG finals broke that false picture, then it is good that he lost. Federer is not a cool destroyer but an artist, and a somewhat fragile one - and who doesn't like him that way he just doesn't like him and that's it

TennisGrandSlam
06-14-2006, 07:23 AM
Ha! As you may know, I had a bet with my 70-year-old colleague on who'd win the French Open final. Well, I won the bet.

My friend, Ian, was flabbergasted. He put the $1 on my desk with a note: "I might have lost still, but I could have played smarter, with a lot of more fire & effort than I did. Roger Federer."

Ian is a fun guy so don't take this post as a bashing. He's also casual tennis fan (he's a big baseball and NFL fan as well) and thought nobody could beat Federer, who he liked becasue he's "a cool character".

Then he saw the final. "What a disappointment!" he said. He was so struck by Federer's bad tennis that he interjected comments to me throughout the day.

"Na-dal was jumping up and down and Federer stood there with his hands in his pockets. He should've projected more excitement."

"I hope he and Na-dal don't meet again on grass. I think Na-dal would win." :lol:

"Just wait until the British press gets a hold of him. They'll make a cartoon of Na-dal walking on the court with Federer carrying his bags." :lol: :lol:

"Even Tony Roche looked disgusted. I saw him pull his cap down over his eyes."

He also observed Rafa's rituals of lining up his water bottles. He thought that was funny.

One other observation. He knew of Nalbandian, who I said was once Federer's nemesis. "Yeah, Nalbandian. He's one scary-looking dude." :lol:

So, this is my French Open conversation with a casual fan. Did anyone else watch with someone who doesn't obsessively follow tennis?



I don't care how much times Roger will lose to Rafa, I am still a Fans of Roger! :)

I am not a Glory Hunter! :o

CmonAussie
06-14-2006, 07:54 AM
It seems that people who didn't follow tennis recently have very distorted picture of Federer.If his loss in RG finals broke that false picture, then it is good that he lost. Federer is not a cool destroyer but an artist, and a somewhat fragile one - and who doesn't like him that way he just doesn't like him and that's it
:wavey:
Good point ;) ...
However the common misconception of Federer as the "cool destroyer" probably has it`s merits in the fact that he won 24-succesive finals :worship: .The previous record had been held by McEnroe & Borg [at 12].So Fed brought new meaning to the word DOMINANT :angel: .Also his perfect record in Grand Slam Finals [at 7-0] :worship: had never been achieved before in tennis history. Now that his run of final wins & especially at the Slams has been broken then the AURA has diminished slightly :sad: .Same thing happened to Tiger Woods after his magic 1999 & 2000 seasons, after he began finishing 2nd a few times people realised he was human after all & then some of his fellow competitors began to beat him more regularly. The new generation of tennis players will look to Rafa`s breakthrough in a similiar light...

FSRteam
06-14-2006, 08:25 AM
The good thing about the Swiss is that they welcome all news with the same poker face. "Hingis won her fifth slam" is reported with about as much flowery language as "Hingis lost her first round" (although they have got a bit worked up about Roger in the last few years; always treated poor Marti as the Swiss-wannabe)
www.swissinfo.org and blick.ch are the two places you can read about it a bit; I'm also partial to nzz.ch

The swiss media but the swiss people, tennis fans or not, were quite disgusted! In the french part of Switzerland, people sometimes feel a kind of competition or "rivalry" with the french people because where are so close, like "les frères énemis". The french swiss have always wanted martina to win the FO because of that (we brought her bad luck so far) and now it is the same with roger!

So here right to everyone I talked to the FO final, they are almost angry at fed not to have brought the Graal back home! :D

Some even told me that they didn't care federer wins every year wimbledon, they want Roland Garros!

We heard more in the media about wawrinka winning the FO junior than for instance valent winning the Wimbledon junior title in 2001 or fed in 1998!!!

MariaV
06-14-2006, 08:34 AM
"Just wait until the British press gets a hold of him. They'll make a cartoon of Na-dal walking on the court with Federer carrying his bags." :lol: :lol:


:haha: That's a good idea for a cartoon. :lol:
Hi TF! :wavey:

connectolove
06-14-2006, 08:57 AM
Well, my mother's take on the match (she's not really a tennis fan either) is that Federer got too intimidated by Nadal. Of course, we all know it's more complicated than that, and Federer has a strong will himself in spite of his cool demeanor.

But my mother sincerely believed that Rafa won because scared the living daylights out of Fed with his dancing around, etc. LOL!

LOL! that is a great expression! :D

I watched the final with some people at a house. Most of them "used" to love tennis, typical "old school types". They thought that Federer started with the thought of winning but Nadal found his answers and then it all went downhill for Fed. My friends' parents appeared in the middle of the match(they are mid 70's) and the mother commented about how much charisma Nadal has and how dead "blah" Fed was. She also said that Fed was scared but did his best dissimulating it.

As Fed puts it, there is no rivalry. There is a clear dominance of Nadal over Federer. It will probably change on grass.

supersexynadal
06-14-2006, 10:48 AM
After the first set my mom said federer will kick his mutt but i was so calm coz i knew nadal would come back. Anyone who doesnt watch tennis will say the nmber one will win. For instace, my classmates know im OBSESSED with tennis. They finally gave it a shot and watch the whole french open...Yes i got 15 people obsessed! They were convinced federer would win. They knew that nadal beat him 5 times before but it wnt stick to a non tennis fans head that the number one can lose. I HATE that! Especially my dads older firends at the club ONLY know federer and nadal so because theyre jelous they never got to have a body like that at 19, all they talk about is federer and sampras! I wonder if they even ever watched him play tennis!

TheMightyFed
06-14-2006, 10:55 AM
Despite the loss I was still happy to see Fed at his best on clay in the first set. Riminded me USO finals agaiunst Hewitt: accurate serve, maximum risk, swinging volleys, deep inside out forehands, everything was there ! I don't care Fed loses as long as he can offer to us magic moments like that...

Angle Queen
06-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Hubs and I watched. He hates tennis but indulges me. He's also seen Fed in person (at the USO last year against Kiefer) and, all things considered, didn't think poorly of Fed. I described it as a butt-kicking but he thought otherwise, thought Roger was on the way back by breaking in the fourth to stay in it...and would pull it out.

I thought his commentary interesting, especially since he's not a fan of the sport at all and knows/knew little of the individuals. He didn't care much for Nadal's bullfighter act but also thinks Roger's stoic demeanor is too tame for sport which is also supposed to be entertainment (at least from his "casual" watcher perspective).

Just some observations from our household....