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Wow i can't believe it

BAMJ6
06-11-2006, 06:18 PM
Rafa has more slams now than Roddick, which to be honest i never thoiught would be the case 2 years ago. Despite him beating Rafa in the 04 Open Roddick and Rafa are going in 2 different directions.

If they meet in Melbourne and/or Flushing again, who would win more times than not? (we all know Roddick on grass and Rafa on clay)

robinhood
06-11-2006, 06:21 PM
Right now, I would say Rafa over Roddick on ALL surfaces.
Even on grass, to me Andy really has to prove himself again this year, given his poor results so far.
Let's see how things go in the next month.

tenniswiz
06-11-2006, 06:32 PM
Roddick on grass. Toss-up on hard.

El Legenda
06-11-2006, 06:34 PM
On Grass: BYE > Roddick

:wavey:

robinhood
06-11-2006, 06:52 PM
On Grass: BYE > Roddick

:wavey:

Jerry, a question for you.
Why do you abhor Roddick so much?
Every time I see your post or thread, it seems like you always mention something negative about him even when the topic is irrelevant.

Scotso
06-11-2006, 06:53 PM
Toss-up on hard.

:lol:

Jimnik
06-11-2006, 06:55 PM
Andy has been world no.1 and has reached more GS finals than Rafa. :)

joeb_uk
06-12-2006, 02:44 PM
I remember that total rinsing nadal got in the usopen, he was completely demolished :eek: It was target practice for andy, and nadal was just trying to dodge the bullets :haha:

How things have changed.

Deboogle!.
06-12-2006, 02:53 PM
Jerry, a question for you.
Why do you abhor Roddick so much?
Every time I see your post or thread, it seems like you always mention something negative about him even when the topic is irrelevant.Some people just have no life and have to hate others in order to make themselves feel better. Poor guy :sad:

NYCtennisfan
06-12-2006, 02:56 PM
You can't really go by that 2004 USO encounter since Nadal was

A) 18
B) Not 100%
C) Had no where the game that he has now

Still, if Roddick plays like he did in late 2003 or throughout 2004, didn't make too many errors off of the Bh, it would be a really good match.

Deboogle!.
06-12-2006, 02:57 PM
You can't really go by that 2004 USO encounter since Nadal was

A) 18
B) Not 100%
C) Had no where the game that he has now

Still, if Roddick plays like he did in late 2003 or throughout 2004, didn't make too many errors off of the Bh, it would be a really good match.Yes, and Andy was playing really well in that match too. Probably hasn't played as well since. :shrug:

The_Rod
06-12-2006, 02:58 PM
Both completely different careers, Nadal has more slams and it current number 2 by a long way, but as said above Andy is a former number 1 and has reached more slam finals.

connectolove
06-12-2006, 03:33 PM
I don´t expect much on grass from Nadal and I know that he wants to try hard, but, it is such a foreign surface for him!

I hope that he starts doing better and beats Andy and most players on grass as well.

Lady Natalia
06-12-2006, 03:39 PM
Andy will use Queens and The Championships as Roger will (with Halle) as a confidence booster. Andy has proven over the YEARS that he is the second best grass court player (As Roger has proven on clay). Doesnt mean that Andy will win, dont get me wrong. So if Andy is in a positive mindset, he would take down Rafa (as would Hewitt and Blake).

prima donna
06-12-2006, 03:42 PM
Hahahaha.

Grass is natural talent, it's about shot making, now with that being said, don't be suprised to see Nadal advance to a QF, as a direct result of a weak draw.

Grass is for tennis players.
Grass is for shotmakers.

Which means, no matter how many hours he spends running around at a residential practice court shouting vamos and retrieving ball after ball, he'll never be a champion at Wimbledon.

It's no secret, the field is very weak right now. Anything is possible, but this kid would be spanked badly by Roddick on grass. What a fucking joke, now all of a sudden Nadal is an all surface player that can abuse the 2nd best grass courter in the world behind the man himself ?

Get off the drugs and stop overhyping this kid. He's spanked Roger a few times on his dirt, bottom line. Let's not get out of hand here people, calm it down a tad bit. Please don't mention Dubai, a best 2 out of 3 set final. The jokes just keep coming, people from Nadal's camp need to understand the role of their player with regard to his skill level from other players.

Thanks in advance.

Agassi, please wake up.
Djokovic, please wake up.
Berdych, please wake up.
Baghdatis, please wake up.
Gasquet, please wake up.
Marat, please wake up.
Nalbandian, please wake up (unless you're playing Roger)
Hewitt, please wake up.
Roddick, please wake up.

Please wake up and show up for a change, otherwise a freak of an accident like Nadal advancing to the 2nd week of Wimbledon may occur.

prima donna
06-12-2006, 03:45 PM
Great thing about Nadal is he'll never be a champion when it comes to Wimbledon, no matter how many times he tries.

I can promise you that. I'll bet my life on it. Hahahahaha.

I'd prefer 60 wimby titles over 60 RG titles. Easy choice there. Grass is the stuff champs are made of.

Champions with great instinct.
Champions with perfect timing.
Champions that float around the court.
Champions that'll linger on and on for years to come.
Champions with their names in the history books.
Champions whom dominate on all surfaces.

Nadal on a slow hard court can do some damage, but aside from that, nah.

Horatio Caine
06-12-2006, 03:53 PM
On Grass: BYE > Roddick

:wavey:

Anywhere: Xristos > Ljubo

:bigwave:

Monteque
06-12-2006, 04:04 PM
Hahahaha.


It's no secret, the field is very weak right now.


I don't agree with this. The top ten is just quite strong with players like Nalby, ljubo, or Blake. You know they look weak because there is none of them can topped Nadal (on clay) or Fed. It just about 2 guys matters cause the tour so weak but actually it isn't. Granted you're right, how come Robredo or berdych can win the TMS and beat the top 10 players...that shows how competitive tour now without Fed and Nadal.

prima donna
06-12-2006, 04:10 PM
I don't agree with this. The top ten is just quite strong with players like Nalby, ljubo, or Blake. You know they look weak because there is none of them can topped Nadal (on clay) or Fed. It just about 2 guys matters cause the tour so weak but actually it isn't. Granted you're right, how come Robredo or berdych can win the TMS and beat the top 10 players...that shows how competitive tour now without Fed and Nadal.

Sorry, but it's the truth.

The youngsters are all too young and inexperienced to challenge veterans, the rest of the players are far too fragile and overly aggressive, thus they're more prone to beating themselves.

Roger must feel like a stranger out there, all the guys he was smacking around a few years ago all pulled a disappearing act.

No Hewitt.
No Roddick.
No Safin.
No Coria.

The list goes on and on of players that've had their careers either ruined by Roger or just ruined their own careers, maybe some are even to the point of being burnt out. I don't respect Nadal off clay, mostly because he's had success against players that haven't proven shit on the surface.

Montreal over an exhausted Andre was a joke. I don't care what Roger says, maybe Roger should pay close attention to the guys he's going up against and next time Roger plays him on hard maybe Roger should get over this Rafaphobia that he has.

adee-gee
06-12-2006, 04:14 PM
Does anyone bother reading posts by prima donna anymore?

They're so full of shit and so long :zzz:

prima donna
06-12-2006, 04:17 PM
Does anyone bother reading posts by prima donna anymore?

They're so full of shit and so long :zzz:

Adee, you don't know anything about tennis.

Plain and simple.

You're bragging about having a winning record against a player on his worst surface, hahaha. Not to mention the fact that you're convinced that Nadal winning somehow benefits your life.

Last year, you swore that Nadal would be the number 1 player, which isn't happening either. The only thing he's doing is rolling around in mud.

Move on, little one.

Monteque
06-12-2006, 04:22 PM
I can't imagine Nadal'll lift the Wimbly throphy at least for now. His gamee just 180 degrees on the contrary to what needs to success on grass. :rolleyes:

mandoura
06-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Does anyone bother reading posts by prima donna anymore?

They're so full of shit and so long :zzz:

I do. :)

Dusk Soldier
06-12-2006, 05:26 PM
You can't really go by that 2004 USO encounter since Nadal was

A) 18
B) Not 100%
C) Had no where the game that he has now

Still, if Roddick plays like he did in late 2003 or throughout 2004, didn't make too many errors off of the Bh, it would be a really good match.
Nadal ended up beating about a month later on clay anyway. So why not?