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RG SF: Federer-Nalbandian 3-6, 6-4, 5-2 ret.

oz_boz
06-09-2006, 12:53 PM
What a pity. :sad: I was really looking forward to a great game and David raising his level again, but he had ab problems and decided to quit. He was outplaying a tentative Fed in the beginning 6-3 3-0, then Fed upped his level in the 2nd and things were getting interesting, but it all ended up with a lousy ret win.

Anyway, congrats to Fed for 4th slam final in a row! :hatoff:

Nadal, go do your job for all the tards.

jazz_girl
06-09-2006, 12:53 PM
:bigcry:

FedFanUS
06-09-2006, 12:53 PM
What happened to David to cause him to retire?

scoobs
06-09-2006, 12:54 PM
A terrible shame.

That was shaping up to be a great match until the abdo...

swissfed
06-09-2006, 12:54 PM
No.......It was a joke

Argenbrit
06-09-2006, 12:54 PM
David's damn shoulder! :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

asotgod
06-09-2006, 12:55 PM
It semeed to be stomach problems just like at the Australian Open this year. I think, however, that his stomach problem seems to worsen when he gets nervous, just like it happened at the Australian. He needs to do something about this. I am not happy at all. Hope he is fine for Wimbledon.

alfonsojose
06-09-2006, 12:55 PM
Too many donnuts last nigth :tape: ?

Seriously, WTF happened :sad: ?

Julio1974
06-09-2006, 12:56 PM
It's always the same with him. He is not fit enough to play more than 5 matches in a row in a GS (US Open 2003,Roland Garros 2004. etc) I don't judge him, he has other priorities apart from tennis and it's his life. But we shouldn't expect a GS title from him.
(apart from the fact he is below the level of Federer, of course. This is not an excuse for the defeat)

swissfed
06-09-2006, 12:57 PM
I want to cry ,,,i really want to ,,,but i am A man.....god bless Nalbandian ,,

fabolous
06-09-2006, 12:58 PM
for one and a half sets, nalbandian showed how good he can play. poor david, it was a great opportunity for him today.

Viken01
06-09-2006, 12:58 PM
:sad: :hysteric: :sobbing: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

DAVIDDDDDDDDDDDDDd

scoobs
06-09-2006, 12:58 PM
Abdominal problems seem to have been the cause.

I really hate that it finished that way - can't be helped but it feels like a cheap route through for Roger.

asotgod
06-09-2006, 12:59 PM
It's always the same with him. He is not fit enough to play more than 5 matches in a row in a GS (US Open 2003,Roland Garros 2004. etc) I don't judge him, he has other priorities apart from tennis and it's his life. But we shouldn't expect a GS title from him.
(apart from the fact he is below the level of Federer, of course. This is not an excuse for the defeat)

I think if Nalby plays like this against Roger at Wimbledon, he may beat him. This is because although the slices seemed to affect him, when he tails off on them, they will move much faster on the grass and put Roger on the defense. I doubt Roger will be calling out to face him at Wimbledon, although Roger still has the edge say 60% - 40% IMO.

oneandonlyhsn
06-09-2006, 12:59 PM
David :hug: what happened, he was given something to swallow by the trainer. So it was his stomach, pain or an upset stomach?

Well done Roger on reaching your 1st ever RG final :worship: now win the title Rogi

nobama
06-09-2006, 12:59 PM
What happened?

I'm sure that's not the way Roger wanted to get into the finals, but he's there. So Congrats, Roger! :worship: And get well David! :hug:

Tennis Fool
06-09-2006, 01:00 PM
:bs:

:eek:

I guess there's no need for me to record the match before going to work. :(

mandoura
06-09-2006, 01:01 PM
What a shame :sad: . A pity Nalby couldn't continue. He started so well. It's disappointing as the match was very promising. Get well soon Nalby :hug: . You eclipsed Roger in the first set and the beginning of the second. Good run in RG and so sorry it had to end like this. :hug:

:banana: Roger. What a come back Ninja :bounce: . Congratulations on your first final at RG :kiss: . You gave me a fit in the beginning of the match but thank you for the awesome shots :eek: you made in the second. :D

prima donna
06-09-2006, 01:01 PM
Avanti Roger!

Allez
06-09-2006, 01:01 PM
Poor Nalbandian. But it must be said that Federer had already started to play really well when Nalbandian's injury took over (unless he got injured at 3-0 up in the 2nd set)...

Björki
06-09-2006, 01:02 PM
poor David :sad:

silverwhite
06-09-2006, 01:02 PM
What a pity. The first two sets were brilliant. :(

David :sad:

Hopp, Roger, in the final! :bounce:

RonE
06-09-2006, 01:02 PM
BBBOOOOOOO!!!!! :mad:

Yes, I wanted Federer to win but not l;ike this :banghead:

He seemed totally helpless in that first set and that backhand was just :o

This will be a cakewalk for Nadal now especially if roger plays the way he did in the first one and a half sets.

Such a shame for David, I really hope he has a speedy recovery. He never seems to get a break :sad:

DDrago2
06-09-2006, 01:02 PM
THe match started to be good, audiences finaly got to it, and then Nalby retires :mad: . What shame, Ljubo will now be no match for Nadal

P.S. And I lost 250 vcash :(

asotgod
06-09-2006, 01:03 PM
Congrats Roger on reaching your 1st final. Hope the chips fall completely your way this time. Good luck.

Melvins
06-09-2006, 01:04 PM
Very Lucky, Roger!

RonE
06-09-2006, 01:04 PM
The one good thing from Federer's perspective is that there were no really long rallies and the match not even lasting three whole sets was over relatively quickly. So at least he will have conserved energy for he final, Lord knows he will need every drop of it!

Rogiman
06-09-2006, 01:05 PM
I really hate that it finished that way - can't be helped but it feels like a cheap route through for Roger.
I can live with that! :D

All the best to David, though, start saving yourself for the important matches...

MariaV
06-09-2006, 01:05 PM
This will be a cakewalk for Nadal now especially if roger plays the way he did in the first one and a half sets.

RonE, Rafa's not in the final yet. And Rogi might play a lot better on Sunday.

landoud
06-09-2006, 01:06 PM
Hope he gets well soon
congrats fed

asotgod
06-09-2006, 01:06 PM
BBBOOOOOOO!!!!! :mad:

Yes, I wanted Federer to win but not l;ike this :banghead:

He seemed totally helpless in that first set and that backhand was just :o

This will be a cakewalk for Nadal now especially if roger plays the way he did in the first one and a half sets.

Such a shame for David, I really hope he has a speedy recovery. He never seems to get a break :sad:


RonE, did you see how early Nalbandian was taking those backhands and even most of the forehands in the first set, there was nothing Roger could do about it because he cannot outrally Nalby by playing with a lot of topspin, just like I think he cannot outrally Nadal likewise. So, he used the slice to break Nalby's rhythm and also to get himself back to the center of the court and give himself and opportunity to be at least neutral in the rallies before hitting out. Nadal would not have been able to rob Federer of time because he plays with so much topspin. I think Roger is in good shape. Great champions are known by how they respond to adversity and he did well, save for the injury to Nalby.

mandoura
06-09-2006, 01:06 PM
Poor Nalbandian. But it must be said that Federer had already started to play really well when Nalbandian's injury took over (unless he got injured at 3-0 up in the 2nd set)...

Yes. The problem started at the beginning of the 3d set. I think when Roger was up 2-1 or 3-2.

Allez
06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
A....but it feels like a cheap route through for Roger.
God please!!! That's nonsense. Roger had to raise his level in that match and he when the chips were down he produced some of the best shots you'll see on clay this year. It's a pity Nalbandian got injured but don't cheapen Rogi's progress to his first RG final like that :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
I am assuming there was not muscle problems or anything like that i.e. pulls or strains. He had an upset stomach or was feeling sick? I did see the doctors give meds out.

As for the match, Federer wasn't all that bad in the first set, but Nalbandian was really good. He didn't hit too many winners, but he really moved Federer around. Then Federer started turning things up in the 2nd by starting to hit the BH better and being aggressive with the FH. This could've been a really good match.

Good luck in the finals Fed. Hope there is nothing wrong with Nalbandian for Halle and Wimbledon.

LLeytonRules
06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
I hope Nalbandian will be ready for Wimbledon.Get well Nalby.He looked good for the 1rst set and a half.Roger came out very tight, if he does that in the final against Nadal, it will be a rout.I thought pain or no pain, Roger was gonna win in 4 sets.Congrats Roger!!!1! :)

bluesky_rachel
06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
David :sad:

You missed ur chance again.:sad::sad::sad:

federated
06-09-2006, 01:08 PM
WTF. That could have been an Instant Classic. Instead we get a copout. Blah. Well, at least those 2 first sets were something to see. Crazy momentum shift. Kudos to Roger. I just hope they show the end on the delayed ESPN/NBC coverage. The stream died on me at the end of the second set. :mad:

asotgod
06-09-2006, 01:09 PM
The whole match lasted about 1 hour 40 minutes. Even if it had gone to 5, it may have ended under 3 and a quarter hours. Roger and Nalby play very quickly so their matches wont be very extended normally, especially with the level of aggression both players were bringing.

Ruski
06-09-2006, 01:09 PM
The sudden wake up of Roger was quite amazing! He was down a set, 0-3 in the 2nd then winning 5 games in a row..... From that moment on, I believe nerves started getting into David's mind..... and unfortunately nerves can make your body feel tense.... stomach cramp is an example!!!

I was hoping Roger to win.... but not in this way!!! A complete victory over a top player will definitely help Roger's confidence in the final.......

At the end, a win is a win!!!!

bokehlicious
06-09-2006, 01:09 PM
Sorry for David :sad:

Now go for it Roger !

NYCtennisfan
06-09-2006, 01:10 PM
God please!!! That's nonsense. Roger had to raise his level in that match and he when the chips were down he produced some of the best shots you'll see on clay this year. It's a pity Nalbandian got injured but don't cheapen Rogi's progress to his first RG final like that

Exactly. He had turned the match around. Time to move on.

Jim Jones
06-09-2006, 01:10 PM
Now Nalbandian no longer has a winning record over Federer. :yeah:

landoud
06-09-2006, 01:11 PM
BBBOOOOOOO!!!!! :mad:

Yes, I wanted Federer to win but not l;ike this :banghead:


the same here

asotgod
06-09-2006, 01:11 PM
As for the match, Federer wasn't all that bad in the first set, but Nalbandian was really good. He didn't hit too many winners, but he really moved Federer around.

Thank you for reiterating my point exactly. Roger had almost 20 forced errors in that first set alone, all because Nalby was rushing him and was too solid from the backcourt.

Allez
06-09-2006, 01:12 PM
RonE, did you see how early Nalbandian was taking those backhands and even most of the forehands in the first set, there was nothing Roger could do about it because he cannot outrally Nalby by playing with a lot of topspin, just like I think he cannot outrally Nadal likewise. So, he used the slice to break Nalby's rhythm and also to get himself back to the center of the court and give himself and opportunity to be at least neutral in the rallies before hitting out. Nadal would not have been able to rob Federer of time because he plays with so much topspin. I think Roger is in good shape. Great champions are known by how they respond to adversity and he did well, save for the injury to Nalby.
Yes!! I said before I'd like to see him use more slice on clay and he used it to perfection today...but only when things were starting to look really bad. It slowed things downs and forced Nalbandian to get down low and generate his own pace. Plus it gave Roger time to get to work his way to the center of the court. Good analysis.

mandoura
06-09-2006, 01:14 PM
RonE, did you see how early Nalbandian was taking those backhands and even most of the forehands in the first set, there was nothing Roger could do about it because he cannot outrally Nalby by playing with a lot of topspin, just like I think he cannot outrally Nadal likewise. So, he used the slice to break Nalby's rhythm and also to get himself back to the center of the court and give himself and opportunity to be at least neutral in the rallies before hitting out. Nadal would not have been able to rob Federer of time because he plays with so much topspin. I think Roger is in good shape. Great champions are known by how they respond to adversity and he did well, save for the injury to Nalby.

Yes. And Nalby's serve returns were just brilliant. Also, Roger couldn't read a lot of Nalby's backhands and seemed a bit late in getting to the ball.

But in the second set, after being down 0-3, Roger really lifted his game and played some outrageously unbelievable shots.

Argenbrit
06-09-2006, 01:14 PM
Now Nalbandian no longer has a winning record over Federer. :yeah:

What a way to celebrate it. :rolleyes:

hasanahmad
06-09-2006, 01:15 PM
If Federer plays like he did down 0-3 in second set, he can win in straight sets vs Nadal.

Mechlan
06-09-2006, 01:15 PM
Very disappointing way for the match to end. Great play from both players in stretches, wish we could have seen them going at it for longer. And a nice strategic adjustment by Federer in that second set, really turned things around by being more aggressive and looking to come in more. Nalbandian's returns and backhand were, as usual, excellent. If he could just overcome sort of problem he had today (which seems to happen a lot), he could really be great.

Sakura 0101
06-09-2006, 01:15 PM
The commentator said that David injured his abdominal muscle
and he said he couldn't serve anymore. :sad:

Please please take care of yourself :hug:

oneandonlyhsn
06-09-2006, 01:16 PM
So they confirmed that Nalby injured his lower left abdominal :sad: poor guy I hope he gets better soon.

shotgun
06-09-2006, 01:16 PM
What's up with Nalbandian, getting all those injuries from time to time? It's not like he doesn't save himself for the important tournaments - he rarely plays optionals.

Looked like a promising match, but had to end like this. Congrats to Federer on reaching his first RG final.

swissfed
06-09-2006, 01:17 PM
For the First time, i really , really fear about the Swiss Star, with his un-expectable ability on the court, now , even on clay....
Pure Domination ....

scoobs
06-09-2006, 01:18 PM
I'm happy Roger is in the final but it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth that he got there via a retirement.

Not at all his fault of course - it is what it is.

But...*sigh*....as a tennis fan first that's not what I wanted to see out there.

{Annie}
06-09-2006, 01:18 PM
what a shame.... :sad: :sad: It was just getting interesting :unsure:

Good luck for the future David and great run :worship: :worship:

Roger, my boy..... DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

asotgod
06-09-2006, 01:18 PM
If Federer plays like he did down 0-3 in second set, he can win in straight sets vs Nadal.

Roger needs to implement the deep slice to Nadal's backhand, especially on service returns. If they are deep Nadal cannot attack easily. If he runs around his backhand to hit a forehand, he leaves the court open crosscourt for Roger or even with a forehand down the line for Roger. So I think Roger should just mix things up against Nadal. Sometimes, a heavy topspin backhand to Nadal's backhand. Sometimes, a flat one. But, he really must give himself opportunities in Nadal's service games, not by making two three errors immediately on Nadal's service games. If he does, he will make history this Sunday.

fooclate
06-09-2006, 01:19 PM
EYY! semis was a no show! But im sure the outcome would have led to federer pulling on top! from 0-3 right to winning the set, he pulled his game up a notch more than expected. If he plays like this in the finals, assuming nadal will be his opponent, it is going to be an incredible match.

bokehlicious
06-09-2006, 01:20 PM
What a way to celebrate it. :rolleyes:

Roger could have retired in the Shangaï final as his fitness was clearly bothering him. So today's match had a pity ending, but that's a Fed win anyway, and that's what really matters.

*Ljubica*
06-09-2006, 01:20 PM
What's up with Nalbandian, getting all those injuries from time to time? It's not like he doesn't save himself for the important tournaments - he rarely plays optionals.

Looked like a promising match, but had to end like this. Congrats to Federer on reaching his first RG final.
Putting it bluntly he doesn't train hard enough and he doesn't work hard enough - all his former coaches and Fitness Trainers say the same thing - he has too many other priorites in his life :rolleyes:

Having said that - sad for him and his fans that he couldn't complete the match - and Good Luck Roger to win this year's RG!

Oh and btw - to those people saying Roger "cheated" and was lucky, didn't Rafael benefit from a withdrawal against him in the 3rd set of a match earlier this week? I which case - doesn't it make them even?

oneandonlyhsn
06-09-2006, 01:23 PM
Putting it bluntly he doesn't train hard enough and he doesn't work hard enough - all his former coaches and Fitness Trainers say the same thing - he has too many other priorites in is life :rolleyes:

Having said that - sad for him and his fans that he couldn't complete the match - and Good Luck Roger to win this year's RG!

I was going to say the same thing, he cant expect to win a slam if he doesnt put a great effort into his fitness. Its such a pity because he is such a talent, and that alone wont get you very far

Allez
06-09-2006, 01:23 PM
Roger needs to implement the deep slice to Nadal's backhand, especially on service returns. If they are deep Nadal cannot attack easily. If he runs around his backhand to hit a forehand, he leaves the court open crosscourt for Roger or even with a forehand down the line for Roger. So I think Roger should just mix things up against Nadal. Sometimes, a heavy topspin backhand to Nadal's backhand. Sometimes, a flat one. But, he really must give himself opportunities in Nadal's service games, not by making two three errors immediately on Nadal's service games. If he does, he will make history this Sunday.
I realy like your way of thinking. He needs to mix it up. He can't trade topspin backhand to Nadal's lefty topspin forehand and still win.

NYCtennisfan
06-09-2006, 01:23 PM
Roger needs to implement the deep slice to Nadal's backhand, especially on service returns. If they are deep Nadal cannot attack easily. If he runs around his backhand to hit a forehand, he leaves the court open crosscourt for Roger or even with a forehand down the line for Roger. So I think Roger should just mix things up against Nadal. Sometimes, a heavy topspin backhand to Nadal's backhand. Sometimes, a flat one. But, he really must give himself opportunities in Nadal's service games, not by making two three errors immediately on Nadal's service games. If he does, he will make history this Sunday.

He tried the deep slice in last year's RG SF, but he made a lot of errors with it because it is hard to control that slice over a couple of shots off of Nadal's tremendous topspin. He either made errors or wound up hitting short-medium slices which sat up and nadal pounced on to take control of the rally.

It could be different now because the court is playing much faster compared to that SF match of last year when it was cold and rainy. The court has taken the slice as well as I have ever seen it this year.

In his best match on clay against Nadal i.e. Rome this year, he used the least amount of slice I have ever seen him in a match.

Julio1974
06-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Putting it bluntly he doesn't train hard enough and he doesn't work hard enough - all his former coaches and Fitness Trainers say the same thing - he has too many other priorites in is life :rolleyes:

!

I said exactly the same thing. But I don't see it as something negative. It's his life, isn't it? If he's happy like that, that's great.

maria87
06-09-2006, 01:24 PM
It's always the same with him. He is not fit enough to play more than 5 matches in a row in a GS (US Open 2003,Roland Garros 2004. etc) I don't judge him, he has other priorities apart from tennis and it's his life. But we shouldn't expect a GS title from him.
(apart from the fact he is below the level of Federer, of course. This is not an excuse for the defeat)

:yeah: agree

Jade Fox
06-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Wow...this sucks. Get well soon David, and good luck Roger!

federated
06-09-2006, 01:25 PM
ok, that really really really sucked.

Allez
06-09-2006, 01:28 PM
Oh and btw - to those people saying Roger "cheated" and was lucky, didn't Rafael benefit from a withdrawal against him in the 3rd set of a match earlier this week? I which case - doesn't it make them even?
Exacly. Djokovic retired but these peeps didn't go on about how Rafa's victory left a bad taste in their mouths...

yomike
06-09-2006, 01:29 PM
Federer started to play better down 3-0 and then David completely lost it. So dissapointing I thought he had a good chance in that second set if he had serve better.

shotgun
06-09-2006, 01:30 PM
I said exactly the same thing. But I don't see it as something negative. It's his life, isn't it? If he's happy like that, that's great.

It's still very contradictory to give interviews saying that he feels prepared to win a Slam and keep acting that way.

Allez
06-09-2006, 01:31 PM
In his best match on clay against Nadal i.e. Rome this year, he used the least amount of slice I have ever seen him in a match.
OK so the jury's still out on the slice against Nadal....We'll see. ;)

asotgod
06-09-2006, 01:31 PM
He tried the deep slice in last year's RG SF, but he made a lot of errors with it because it is hard to control that slice over a couple of shots off of Nadal's tremendous topspin. He either made errors or wound up hitting short-medium slices which sat up and nadal pounced on to take control of the rally.

It could be different now because the court is playing much faster compared to that SF match of last year when it was cold and rainy. The court has taken the slice as well as I have ever seen it this year.

In his best match on clay against Nadal i.e. Rome this year, he used the least amount of slice I have ever seen him in a match.


He made errors last year because he could not deal with the Nadal spin effectively and he wanted to go short crosscourt like he does against right handers. However, the past few matches show that Roger does not have much problem with the Nadal spin. He has problem with some execution.If he had used the slice more in the match in Rome, I believe he would have won. How many service games did you see Nadal just get up 30-0 or even 40-0 because Roger made errors on service returns. I am not saying he should use the slice return on the AD-side when returning. No. If he does, Nadal will kill him either down the line or a sharper crosscourt forehand. I think Federer should use it coupled with his topspin backhand on the DEUCE side. He should take the slice to the Nadal backhand deep. Nadal does not deal with slices very well. He uses hits it back up the line or even slices up the line himself. Then, Federer can tail off on it.

So, on the deuce side, if Roger slices the return of serve, Nadal can run around to hit a forehand crosscourt or down the line. If Nadal goes down the line with the forehand , he leaves a large chunk of the court open to his forehand which Roger can just take crosscourt, sharp angled, but not deep. If he goes crosscourt, Roger can either back him up more at his backhand or go down the line not too deep with the forehand. If Roger goes too deep, he makes unforced errors. So, I think this will be an important play should they meet on Sunday.

mandoura
06-09-2006, 01:33 PM
Putting it bluntly he doesn't train hard enough and he doesn't work hard enough - all his former coaches and Fitness Trainers say the same thing - he has too many other priorites in his life :rolleyes:

Yes. Wilander was saying more or less the same thing on Eurosport about David's fitness.

Having said that - sad for him and his fans that he couldn't complete the match - and Good Luck Roger to win this year's RG!

Oh and btw - to those people saying Roger "cheated" and was lucky, didn't Rafael benefit from a withdrawal against him in the 3rd set of a match earlier this week? I which case - doesn't it make them even?

Thanks Rosie. I was going to say the same thing but decided not to. ;)

scoobs
06-09-2006, 01:35 PM
Yes, Rafa and Roger have both benefited from a retirement - though given Roger's was against the player most expected to give him trouble before the finals, he's been rather the luckier with it.

Oriental_Rain
06-09-2006, 01:39 PM
its not Federer's fault.
Nalby :bolt: like a chicken *bak-bakak* :lol: j/k

*Ljubica*
06-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Yes, Rafa and Roger have both benefited from a retirement - though given Roger's was against the player most expected to give him trouble before the finals, he's been rather the luckier with it.
Roger had picked up his level and was beating Nalbandian long before the retirement. True - he played badly in the first set - but after that - it looked pretty plain sailing to me. I believe their head-to-head is now 6-6, and Federer's 6 wins came in their last 7 matches, so I think the "Nalby owns Fed" brigade haven't got any credance to their argument these days and I really don't see why so many people still think Federer will have so much trouble. Yes - Nalbandian DID own him a few years ago - but then Federer upped his level and became the player he is today - and he has the upper hand now - just as he has against Henman, who also used to have a winning record against him. And - no - I'm not a particular Federer fan - I'm just saying it as I see it.

Action Jackson
06-09-2006, 01:48 PM
It's still very contradictory to give interviews saying that he feels prepared to win a Slam and keep acting that way.

It's disappointing for sure, but like I said with Gaudio as well. Nalle needs to make some choices with his tennis and if he is happy with going along like he is at the moment, then that is fine.

Maybe he wants to be with the "Tango Rally Team" and play tennis as a way to help his team.

As for his fitness, well this is one aspect that a player has greater control over than many others.

betterthanhenman
06-09-2006, 01:51 PM
My views:

Federer pretty much 'owns' Nalbandian now. Look at their last 7 matches.

Nalbandian put himself in a winning position as I thought he might, but was unable to maintain it.

The serve and mentality remain the two major weaknesses for David.

Is it a coincidence that he has had abdominal problems now in the semis of both the Aussie Open and here? His mentality and his physique are problems.

Carrying around the excess weight that David has can only be a disadvantage. I believe his mental lapses are related to his physical condition.

A side issue, David is one of the sweatiest men alive. :)

Sad the match ended the way it did.

NYCtennisfan
06-09-2006, 01:54 PM
My views:

Federer pretty much 'owns' Nalbandian now. Look at their last 7 matches.

Nalbandian put himself in a winning position as I thought he might, but was unable to maintain it.

The serve and mentality remain the two major weaknesses for David.

Is it a coincidence that he has had abdominal problems now in the semis of both the Aussie Open and here? His mentality and his physique are problems.

Carrying around the excess weight that David has can only be a disadvantage. I believe his mental lapses are related to his physical condition.

A side issue, David is one of the sweatiest men alive. :)

Sad the match ended the way it did.

LOL! Nadal as well with all the toweling down.

Agree with the rest.

dkw
06-09-2006, 01:55 PM
Talk about Pete Sampras like luck here for Federer :rolleyes: Just write his name on the FO throphy already.

And Nalby you chunky monkey... get fit because you're costing me vcash!!!

Federerhingis
06-09-2006, 02:14 PM
RonE, Rafa's not in the final yet. And Rogi might play a lot better on Sunday.


He will have to if he even wants to make it competitive.

tripb19
06-09-2006, 02:39 PM
I am devastated. Nalby keeps breaking my heart.

I feel like it is the crossroads for Nalby. If he chooses to concentrate on his fitness and put in the time that he should (that other pros do), then he can become the player that his talent indicates he could be, and start to win GS. Otherwise, if he keeps doing what he is doing, he can not get any better or win more tournies etc.

I also don't agree with the people in this thread saying Nalby will never win a GS. He will win a GS if he figures out that what he is currently doing is not actually enough.

MisterQ
06-09-2006, 02:40 PM
What a shame for David when he was playing so well. :sad:

Flibbertigibbet
06-09-2006, 02:48 PM
That's not the best way to see a match end - especially since a player of Nalbandian's talent doesn't deserve to have to retire in a semi-final. I hope it's just a short-term injury, though, and he can recover from it soon, he can put in great showings in the rest of the year, too. Condolences to Nalbandian and his fans.

Anyway, good job to Federer for upping his game when it looked like he was going down!

nobama
06-09-2006, 02:52 PM
Yes Roger got a bit of luck here. But after he hit that amazing winner between the legs things changed in the match. It was as if someone flipped the switch on Roger. OK we don't know if he would've won or not but he did up his level in the second and third sets.

Dirk
06-09-2006, 03:03 PM
Thank you for reiterating my point exactly. Roger had almost 20 forced errors in that first set alone, all because Nalby was rushing him and was too solid from the backcourt.

um Roger had 9 errors in first set. :o

mangoes
06-09-2006, 03:11 PM
I'm watching the match now, and Roger played very sloppy in the first set. But, from the middle of the 2nd set, I find it very hard to say that Nalbandian would have won this match. Roger started playing like Roger. Nalbandian was not going to win this match.

I do hope Nalbandian feels better and prepares to make a serious run during the grass season.

mandoura
06-09-2006, 03:18 PM
um Roger had 9 errors in first set. :o

Roger made 9 unforced errors in the first set and 20 forced errors as asotgod said. :)

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-09-2006, 03:26 PM
Such a shame that the match ended this way. Nalby, hit the gym ASAP.

R.Federer
06-09-2006, 03:27 PM
Yes Roger got a bit of luck here. But after he hit that amazing winner between the legs things changed in the match. It was as if someone flipped the switch on Roger. OK we don't know if he would've won or not but he did up his level in the second and third sets.
there was no amazing tweener
There was an amazing shot when he ran back after the volley, but it wasn't between the legs
I think he learned his lesson about the tweeners after AO05

nobama
06-09-2006, 03:28 PM
there was no amazing tweener
There was an amazing shot when he ran back after the volley, but it wasn't between the legs
I think he learned his lesson about the tweeners after AO05Yeah I just saw it again. It looked like one but as Roger said he just "faked it". Still an amazing shot.

mandoura
06-09-2006, 03:36 PM
there was no amazing tweener
There was an amazing shot when he ran back after the volley, but it wasn't between the legs
I think he learned his lesson about the tweeners after AO05

Yes, i thought so too. When some posters here mentionned it was a "tweener", I thought maybe my failing eyes played tricks on me as they usually do. Now I will learn to trust my eyesight more. :)

yanchr
06-09-2006, 03:37 PM
there was no amazing tweener
There was an amazing shot when he ran back after the volley, but it wasn't between the legs
I think he learned his lesson about the tweeners after AO05
I was thinking exactly the same when watching this one :lol:

Though it was not a tweener, it was AMAZING :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

mangoes
06-09-2006, 03:38 PM
It wasn't between his legs.........I don't think Roger will ever try that shot again after AO 05 :lol: :lol:

nobama
06-09-2006, 03:47 PM
Well I was watching the UAE website feed and it was choppy at best so it was hard to tell. I was actually shocked at the time to think he would try something like that. Of course he didn't...good to know.

Jennay
06-09-2006, 05:04 PM
:sobbing: It breaks my heart when players have to retire. I hope David gets well really soon. :hug:

DrJules
06-09-2006, 05:51 PM
Putting it bluntly he doesn't train hard enough and he doesn't work hard enough - all his former coaches and Fitness Trainers say the same thing - he has too many other priorites in his life :rolleyes:

Having said that - sad for him and his fans that he couldn't complete the match - and Good Luck Roger to win this year's RG!

Oh and btw - to those people saying Roger "cheated" and was lucky, didn't Rafael benefit from a withdrawal against him in the 3rd set of a match earlier this week? I which case - doesn't it make them even?

Interestingly David has won 3 times in the last year from 2 sets to love down. Not usually done by players lacking fitness.

scoobs
06-09-2006, 05:53 PM
Interestingly David has won 3 times in the last year from 2 sets to love down. Not usually done by players lacking fitness.
If he's done that in an early round has he gone on to win the title?

Fergie
06-09-2006, 06:09 PM
Rogi :woohoo:

Get well soon David :yeah:

*Ljubica*
06-09-2006, 06:13 PM
Interestingly David has won 3 times in the last year from 2 sets to love down. Not usually done by players lacking fitness.
True - but consider the opposition in those three matches.........

a) Andy Murray:Wimbledon 2005 - a young lad playing his first Wimbledon who is well-known to suffer with cramps and a lack of fitness.

b) Roger Federer:Shanghai 2005 - just back from a long-injury lay-off and not fully match fit.

c) Dmitry Tursunov:RG 2006 - a complete headcase (much as I love him!) and definately not a clay court player.

I hear what you're saying, but for my sins I spent several years following DN and went to more of his practice sessions than I care to remember :rolleyes: - and he does NOT train to a full capacity like other players I could mention. That is a well-known fact on the Tour. The fact that he still performs so well is proof of what a good and talented player he is, and how much more he could achieve if he applied himself a little more, but at the end of the day it's his life and I guess he can live it the way he chooses :)

And scoobsuk - the only tournament he went on to win was Shanghai where the comeback happened in the Final anyway.

Corey Feldman
06-09-2006, 06:51 PM
At 3-6 0-3 fed was asleep...
then hits an amazing winner
awakes
and Nalbandian could not live with Fed's magic anymore.

also a pity then he got hurt, so get well soon dave.

Corey Feldman
06-09-2006, 07:10 PM
I want to cry ,,,i really want to ,,,but i am A man.....god bless Nalbandian ,,big man like us can cry :sad:

:rolls:

Neely
06-09-2006, 07:35 PM
Bad luck for Nalbandian he had to retire at the end :( For more than one set this looked pretty impressive what he was playing so far, that was a good opportunity wasted!

JadexD
06-09-2006, 07:59 PM
OMG David! :sad: :sobbing: :hug:
This is so sad and disappointing, you were playing great at the beginning. I always thought Nalbandian would be one of the best bet to beat Fed b/c Fed doesn't seem to adjust to his game as well. Hope you get well enough to play Wimbledon. I really believe that if David can hold himself together, he can win a GS quite soon. :cool:
But nevertheless, good job Fed on your first RG final.

stebs
06-09-2006, 08:12 PM
Nalbandian played like a god for 12 games at the start of the match. Then Roger played like a god for 12 games to lead with a break in the third. The David got hurt and it became clear that it was going to end with Roger easing through or with retirement. A great first two sets though.

ReturnWinner
06-09-2006, 09:29 PM
what a huge chance to win nalbandain had till 63 31 when injured (yes he got injured there. not in the third set ) pfff as usual with him.

musefanatic
06-09-2006, 09:47 PM
Oh and btw - to those people saying Roger "cheated" and was lucky, didn't Rafael benefit from a withdrawal against him in the 3rd set of a match earlier this week? I which case - doesn't it make them even?

I don't see how anyone can claim that because a player has defaulted it is classed as cheating. If the player isn't fit enough to carry on, then it is their fault they can't continue playing, not cheating at all. It's a shame that it has to come to that as I'm sure no player ever wants to retire from a match.

There seems to have been a lot of retirements this year at RG, i was just wondering if anyone had any ideas why this might be as I find it really sad and frustrating watching the players having to retire.