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Did anyone hear Djokovic post match interview

RickDaStick
06-07-2006, 05:18 PM
That was one of the funniest things i've ever heard. Novak was saying he was in control of the match and could of won.

scoobs
06-07-2006, 05:19 PM
I've read it and I was wondering if he took a blow to the head at some point because, with respect, at no stage was he in control.

In Rafa's interview they asked him about that and he seemed quite surprised - he answered fairly diplomatically but you could tell by the answer that we though Djoko was talking out of his arse a bit.

Pigpen Stinks
06-07-2006, 05:24 PM
He was in control of that match just like Xristos is in control of most of his one sided affairs.

MissMoJo
06-07-2006, 05:25 PM
He said the same 'I was in control' thing after the match in MC against roger :confused: but at least there he won a set. Today his negative body language on court, and..well the score totally contradicts that. Strange

tennisgal_001
06-07-2006, 05:26 PM
I think if Novak said "If I was in a better physical condition, I think I would've stood a chance in this match" or smthg of that sort, it would've been more realistic. However I completely agree with him on this:

"I don't need. I don't need. I realized today that I don't need to play anything special, you know. I don't need to play anything special. Everybody thinks, you know, Nadal. For sure he's the best on this surface, but he's not unbeatable."

&

"I have to say that even though that he's the best and everybody thinks that he's unbeatable, I say he's not unbeatable. He's beatable, you know."

prima donna
06-07-2006, 05:29 PM
Theoretically, all of Nadal's opponents are in control of their destiny. If you don't make 50 ufes, then you win. Easier said than done.

Why is it that everyone is coming out and attacking this kid ? Roger has dominated for years, receiving nothing but kind wishes and compliments from his opponents. We're talking about a guy that's absolutely ruthless on court, yet is admired and respected by his adversaries.

Nadal's game is a joke, everyone's coming out of the woodworks and smacking this kid around for playing garbage tennis. Just keep retrieving the ball and shouting "Vamos!", one of these days Nadal is gonna take a fall and never get up from it.

Enjoy it while you have it. What garbage to watch. Period. Brutto.

We have guys like

Andre Agassi
Marat Safin
Rod Laver
and plenty of others, let's not include all of Nadal's opponents whom also have received their fair share of abuse from Roger, yet when push comes to shove are willing to concede that Mr. Federer is superior.

One thing remains constant ....

" He's only beating Roger because of the lefty thing "
" He's not in control blah blah, Roger choked "
" Roger is the best, he'll figure him out "

If Roger makes the Final and beats Nadal on Sunday, Nadal's career is over. End of story. He can't play for shit on hard courts or grass, if Roger takes away the only thing you have ... retire and save your body.

DDrago2
06-07-2006, 05:30 PM
I think if Novak said "If I was in a better physical condition, I think I would've stood a chance in this match" or smthg of that sort, it would've been more realistic. However I completely agree with him on this:

"I don't need. I don't need. I realized today that I don't need to play anything special, you know. I don't need to play anything special. Everybody thinks, you know, Nadal. For sure he's the best on this surface, but he's not unbeatable."

&

"I have to say that even though that he's the best and everybody thinks that he's unbeatable, I say he's not unbeatable. He's beatable, you know."

How long is it going to take for all players to understand this simple truth - the myth I was speaking about... Still the best, yes, unplayable - no way! He was as lucky as skillfull to make this streak.

Metis
06-07-2006, 05:31 PM
Totally delusional !!!

:smash:

Rafa probably had a hard time controlling himself from bursting into laughter.

FelipeMIA89
06-07-2006, 05:32 PM
Nadal was like falling asleep in his post match interview...

RickDaStick
06-07-2006, 05:34 PM
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/2006-06-07/200606071149689775231.html

For a good laugh go here and click on video interview

mangoes
06-07-2006, 05:36 PM
He said the same thing after his match against Roger and now today he says it against Nadal....... Next time either one of these guys play Djokovic, I think he'll be eating bagels.

Metis
06-07-2006, 05:37 PM
Nadal was like falling asleep in his post match interview...

That's because he was hypnotized by Djokovic bouncing the tennis ball :lol:

tennisgal_001
06-07-2006, 05:37 PM
How long is it going to take for all players to understand this simple truth - the myth I was speaking about... Still the best, yes, unplayable - no way! He was as lucky as skillfull to make this streak.

If anything, Nadal's matches against PHM and Hewitt have proven that he's not as almighty as the media makes out of him. I'm not trying to degrade his achievements, or talk smack about him, but fact remains that he isn't the most verstile player out there, and I just don't like it when things are blown out of proportion. Nadal's streak will end one day because more and more players are figuring out how to beat him, and are getting the experience needed to do so.

knight_ley
06-07-2006, 05:38 PM
I just saw it on ESPN2 and for once I'm actually totally going to agree with what Brad Gilbert said. Completely dellusional.

Clara Bow
06-07-2006, 05:39 PM
Rafa's response- in Rafa-English:

Q. Djokovic told us he felt he had the match under control till his back problems. Do you agree with that? >

RAFAEL NADAL: Oh, yes (smiling).

I don't know. If he say that, it's okay. I don't need to answer that, no? But he had the problem in the first game or what? :devil: Because I don't remember, no. I have break, break, all time up in the score, no?

SS6888
06-07-2006, 05:39 PM
i agree with him, nadal is by no means unbeatable with the way he's been playing.

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 05:41 PM
Actually he did control majority of the match but that is only telling in that he is more offensive minded whereas Rafa is more defensive minded . Certainly he had more winners than Rafa who produced some great winners himself and was more offensive minded than usual .

But that's not enough to win a match , he had trouble with Rafa's spin and serve and made many awkward errors and of course he had trouble moving . Today I was just reminded that he needs to bulk up more and get more steady and that takes time. Rafa was very steady and much better than in earlier matches. He should be a favourite to win it all as if that's a revelation :wavey:

federated
06-07-2006, 05:45 PM
I've read it and I was wondering if he took a blow to the head at some point because, with respect, at no stage was he in control.

In Rafa's interview they asked him about that and he seemed quite surprised - he answered fairly diplomatically but you could tell by the answer that we though Djoko was talking out of his arse a bit.

:haha: :haha:

Totally, Novak was clearly experiencing vertigo. They showed the section of the press conference on ESPN2 where Rafa responds to Novak on this, and he actually thought he didn't hear correctly and turned to the translator. And then, once the question was confirmed, he just did his eyebrow thing and then said "oh yes." with this funny smile. The press corps burst out laughing (and kept laughing) and Rafa hunkered down into U.N. mode again. Pretty funny stuff.

Clara Bow
06-07-2006, 05:45 PM
but fact remains that he isn't the most verstile player out there
One thing that I do think is that players being able to start to battle Rafa more when he plays his usual style will help him to become a more versatile player.

I don’t think he is done developing and that his game now is a finished product. I don’t quite understand why some think that he will not improve in other aspects of his game, he has been. His volleys are getting better (I think he has surprisingly nice touch at net) and his backhand is better this year than last imo.

tennisgal_001
06-07-2006, 05:46 PM
Theoretically, all of Nadal's opponents are in control of their destiny. If you don't make 50 ufes, then you win. Easier said than done.

Why is it that everyone is coming out and attacking this kid ? Roger has dominated for years, receiving nothing but kind wishes and compliments from his opponents. We're talking about a guy that's absolutely ruthless on court, yet is admired and respected by his adversaries.

Nadal still has to prove he can tackle other surfaces, and play with different strategies. I know it's not his fault that the media made a god out of him, and that he's 20 and still has plenty of time to learn, and that's totally fine by me on his part, but I just don't think it's fair other guys should be mocked because they speak their mind, and tell it as it is.

mangoes
06-07-2006, 05:49 PM
One thing that I do think is that players being able to start to battle Rafa more when he plays his usual style will help him to become a more versatile player.

I don’t think he is done developing and that his game now is a finished product. I don’t quite understand why some think that he will not improve in other aspects of his game, he has been. His volleys are getting better (I think he has surprisingly nice touch at net) and his backhand is better this year than last imo.


Time will tell ;)

knight_ley
06-07-2006, 05:51 PM
:haha: :haha:

Totally, Novak was clearly experiencing vertigo. They showed the section of the press conference on ESPN2 where Rafa responds to Novak on this, and he actually thought he didn't hear correctly and turned to the translator. And then, once the question was confirmed, he just did his eyebrow thing and then said "oh yes." with this funny smile. The press corps burst out laughing (and kept laughing) and Rafa hunkered down into U.N. mode again. Pretty funny stuff.

:lol: Brad Gilbert's face when they came back to him and Fowler was EXACTLY how mine was :lol:

tennisgal_001
06-07-2006, 05:53 PM
One thing that I do think is that players being able to start to battle Rafa more when he plays his usual style will help him to become a more versatile player.

I don’t think he is done developing and that his game now is a finished product. I don’t quite understand why some think that he will not improve in other aspects of his game, he has been. His volleys are getting better (I think he has surprisingly nice touch at net) and his backhand is better this year than last imo.

Nadal is still growing as a player, and evolving on a day-to-day basis, which is exactly why he shouldn't be declared "unbeatable". His game has flaws, some were exposed last week. I just think that the tennis world, in general, needs to take it easy, slow down a little bit, and get real (the most important thing).

Clara Bow
06-07-2006, 05:53 PM
Nadal still has to prove he can tackle other surfaces, and play with different strategies

Imo, I don't agree that Rafa has still done nothing on other surfaces when he has two Master's Shields on hard.

I do agree that he should play with different strategies. I liked it when he was more offensive in Montreal and I wish he would play more like that more often. I think he can play different strategies- for when he does so he is pretty good, but does not yet have the confidence to do so more often. I'm not saying he will win all matches, but I do think he needs to have more faith in other aspects of his game and use them more in his play, as opposed to retreating into his defensive shell when he gets nervous.

And I'm not sure if Djokovic saying he was in control of the match until he got injured is telling it "like it is." He was never up in a set, before his injury problems or after. I don't mind him saying that Rafa is not unbeatable. I agree with that, and frankly, as Nadal points out- he does too. But I just think that Nole implaying that he had the match in the bag until he was injured is a wee bit silly since he was never up.

Nadal is still growing as a player, and evolving on a day-to-day basis, which is exactly why he shouldn't be declared "unbeatable". His game has flaws, some were exposed last week. I just think that the tennis world, in general, needs to take it easy, slow down a little bit, and get real (the most important thing).

I agree with this.

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 05:57 PM
He said the same thing after his match against Roger and now today he says it against Nadal....... Next time either one of these guys play Djokovic, I think he'll be eating bagels.

If he believes he can play with the top guys , let him believe it . He has a reason and talent to back it up to believe it. There is no disrespect . At least he isn't walking out defeated before the match

mangoes
06-07-2006, 05:57 PM
Nadal is still growing as a player, and evolving on a day-to-day basis, which is exactly why he shouldn't be declared "unbeatable". His game has flaws, some were exposed last week. I just think that the tennis world, in general, needs to take it easy, slow down a little bit, and get real (the most important thing).

Agree.

Johnny Groove
06-07-2006, 05:59 PM
its kind of hard to be in control of a match when you cant even finish it. I agree that Nadal's game has flaws, and there is a strategy to beat him. Knowing it and doing it are 2 different things and until Federer or anyone can figure out both parts, we will witness more ass-picking, hear more vamoses, and see more banana malfunctions.:banana:

athina7
06-07-2006, 06:00 PM
That was so funny :lol: In control of the match? At what point exactly was he in control of the match, because I must have missed it. And Nadal's reaction to this was priceless:lol:

mangoes
06-07-2006, 06:01 PM
If he believes he can play with the top guys , let him believe it . He has a reason and talent to back it up to believe it. There is no disrespect . At least he isn't walking out defeated before the match


He can believe whatever he chooses to believe. When he opens his mouth and shares his belief, we will all form opinions. I think it is nice that you don't consider his "voiced" belief disrespectful.

:lol: I haven't said what I think as yet, but I think we have differing opinions.

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 06:07 PM
its kind of hard to be in control of a match when you cant even finish it. I agree that Nadal's game has flaws, and there is a strategy to beat him. Knowing it and doing it are 2 different things and until Federer or anyone can figure out both parts, we will witness more ass-picking, hear more vamoses, and see more banana malfunctions.:banan:

Did you watch the match?

He never led in a match but he did control most rallies and produced more winners . But he also commited many silly errors like at least a dozen dropshots into the net and had trouble returning Rafa's spin serve at first and later had trouble with his serve as well. So he was in control of most rallies but Rafa's experience, endurance and patience prevailed .

DrJules
06-07-2006, 06:08 PM
That was one of the funniest things i've ever heard. Novak was saying he was in control of the match and could of won.

I looked at the figures. Djokovic hit 27 winnners while Nadal hit 20 winners. Errors were Djokovic's problem leading 29 to 13.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day16/1124ms.html

Johnny Groove
06-07-2006, 06:10 PM
I looked at the figures. Djokovic hit 27 winnners while Nadal hit 20 winners.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day16/1124ms.html

true, Nole did have more winners, but Nadal led in every category except winners and service speed (of all types).

Metis
06-07-2006, 06:15 PM
At least he isn't walking out defeated before the match

I don't know about that. He looked defeated after the first few points Nadal won. He raised his hands in frustration.

As the commentators said it is very rare for players to retire at this stage of a GS (and you have to wonder whether he did it to avoid getting bageled in the third set). After that I don't think it is very smart of him to claim he was the one in control because now everybody will be laughing at him. :rolleyes:

I don't disagree with the Nadal being beatable comment.
Hey, nobody is unbeatable, even Federer :)

Mechlan
06-07-2006, 06:15 PM
To be fair, Novak's exact words were "I think I was in control because I think everything was depending on me." I can see that making sense when you're the aggressor and going for more winners. He was in command of his shots, and just missed, as tends to happen against Nadal. :shrug:

faboozadoo15
06-07-2006, 06:16 PM
i don't see what the big deal is... he didn't play anywhere near his best and was breaking nadal's serve all over the place, and as an injured man lost 2 sets 6-4 and 6-4. he also his more winners and was forcing the issue more. he was never in control of the score, but in his own right, he was controlling the match.

tennisgal_001
06-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Imo, I don't agree that Rafa has still done nothing on other surfaces when he has two Master's Shields on hard.

I do agree that he should play with different strategies. I liked it when he was more offensive in Montreal and I wish he would play more like that more often. I think he can play different strategies- for when he does so he is pretty good, but does not yet have the confidence to do so more often. I'm not saying he will win all matches, but I do think he needs to have more faith in other aspects of his game and use them more in his play, as opposed to retreating into his defensive shell when he gets nervous.

Nadal is being overhyped at the moment, I think. Credit to him, he has proven many times he's the best clay-courter out there, and that he can play on the slow-er hard-courts. Montreal was a very good win for him, but he was so hammered out he lost in Cincy R1... would that ever happen on clay?... I don't think so. Madrid was very "heroic", but he paid the price for 4 months... again, he still can't really control his game much on grass or the fast hard courts, which what many people are missing. He has time to learn, and I think he will... but right now he still didn't, so it's too early to be making judgements.

And I'm not sure if Djokovic saying he was in control of the match until he got injured is telling it "like it is." He was never up in a set, before his injury problems or after. I don't mind him saying that Rafa is not unbeatable. I agree with that, and frankly, as Nadal points out- he does too. But I just think that Nole implaying that he had the match in the bag until he was injured is a wee bit silly since he was never up.

I said before that Djokovic's bit about being in control was unrealistic, but I meant other guys in general. They get picked on when they say Nadal's not as tough as he looks, or Federer is better, etc....

Allure
06-07-2006, 06:21 PM
I don't agree when Novak said he didn't have to do anything "special" to beat Nadal. Is he saying someone can play average and defeat Nadal? :confused:

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 06:24 PM
I don't agree when Novak said he didn't have to do anything "special" to beat Nadal. Is he saying someone can play average and defeat Nadal? :confused:

He meant he should play his own game instead of trying something special like today he tried to be fancy with dropshots and it cost him a lot .

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 06:25 PM
I don't know about that. He looked defeated after the first few points Nadal won. He raised his hands in frustration.

As the commentators said it is very rare for players to retire at this stage of a GS (and you have to wonder whether he did it to avoid getting bageled in the third set). After that I don't think it is very smart of him to claim he was the one in control because now everybody will be laughing at him. :rolleyes:

I don't disagree with the Nadal being beatable comment.
Hey, nobody is unbeatable, even Federer :)

In the first 2 games he was trying to be fancy and it didn't suit him, later in the set he settled and made a match of it. The same thing happened in the second set.

smucav
06-07-2006, 07:21 PM
http://66.232.148.140/blogs/tennisworld/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=935You Are Djoking, Aren't You?
Posted 6/7/2006 @ 1:34 PM

I can think of a lot of people (Juan Jose?) who are cringing right about now, if they watched Rafael Nadal clean Novak Djokovic’s clock(tower). Djokovic’s behavior during the match, as he nursed his sore back, was sufficiently irritating to throw Nadal off and cause him to lose concentration. And Dirty Boy Rafa wouldn’t lie about something like that, I don’t think.

As Nadal said:

Yes, it (The Djoker’s high level of play late in the second set and early in the third) It surprised me. He was showing that he wasn't feeling very well, but he was signing to his back every time he lost a point.

So after that - but anyway, it's my fault. I was losing my concentration at 30 Love. But he continued to play. Obviously, he was playing. He was serving at 105, so it surprised me in 15 30 that he retired.

But I suppose he was not feeling well, because you don't retire from a quarterfinals in a Grand Slam unless you're not feeling well.

Now here’s the truly weird thing:

In his presser following the win over James Blake, Gael Monfils looked forward – and back – as he contemplated his next round, against the Djoker. The backstory is that Monfils and Djokovic played a tight five-setter at the U.S. Open, which the Djoker won after stalling and taking injury time outs because of an alleged “breathing problem.”

(In Djokovic’s defense, he did have surgery at the end of last year to relieve blockage in his nose – the way he described it, it sounds like he had a badly deviated septum).

Here’s what Monfils said as he contemplated the Grand Slam rematch:

Djokovic, let me think. I had problems with him at the US Open, 7 5 at the end. We're at home. This is going to be very different.

He's a very good player. He's a very good player. It's going to be a big match again, I know. I hope that it might be a bit more fair play than last time. But I expect a big match. . .

. . .Well, he couldn't breathe and he had a problem in the calf of his leg, then he had pain somewhere else. I can do the same and pretend I have blisters.

I don't think it was a very good way of playing. But I think he's more mature now. He has more experience. He's not going to repeat that, I think, in France. He's clever enough not to do that.

In the meantime, we got very friendly. We're both young players. It's good we should meet. I'm sure it's going to be very fair play tomorrow.

As if all this isn’t bad enough, The Djoker made a Sesil Kratancheva-grade public relations faux pas – actually, it was more than that, it was a delusional faux pas – when he kept insisting that he was “in control” of the match with Dirty Boy Rafa. If you read the transcript, you’ll see that his original reference to this issue could be taken various ways, but by his last reiteration, it was clear. The guy thought he had Nadal’s number, despite the inconvenient reality of the 6-4,6-4 scores.

There are only two ways in which this isn’t simple, youthful hauteur and delusion: if the Djoker really meant something different with the word “control”, as if he was saying something like, “I wasn’t letting him get out ahead, I was sticking with him.” That’s a real possibility,

The other possibility is that Djokovic is like the proverbial young fighter who, bathed in blood and seeing triple, is begging his corner man to let him off the stool to resume a fight that has been stopped out of fear for the kid’s. “I got him now, Herbie, just let me at him!”

In any event, this made for great bear-baiting in the press room, and for quite a while DRB resisted quite nicely, but he finally broke down and said:

I don't know. If he say that, it's okay. I don't need to answer that, no? But he had the problem in the first game or what? Because I don't remember, no? I have break, break, all time up in the score, no?

Speaking of Monfils/Djokovic, though, I never got to post some second thoughts I had about Monfils, following his win over Blake. He did a few things here at Roland Garros that makes me wonder what he's going to be like if he ever really gets good.

On match point, when Blake’s shot landed long, Monfils did this quick routine, kind of like a cross between an NFL end zone dance and a frame from a gangsta rap video. He went very still (instead of jumping for joy), put his hands on his hips, and nodded at the mark.

Wow. Word up. I’m surprised he didn’t follow it up by folding his arms and giving a peace sign, or doing one of those infantile Sammy Sosa “from the heart” gestures. So what do you think, are we ready for NFL-grade celebrations in tennis? I could go either way on it. But I did fall to my knees in thanks as we came to the end of the era when guys like John McEnroe and Mats Wilander began to confuse themselves with rocks stars and guitar wizards. That all was kind of pathetic.

The other thing that struck me as dodgy was a comment Monfils made in the French portion of his presser, to which he showed up in a Nike ski cap and a zip-front sweatshirt with the NY (New York) logo on the left breast.

Somebody said he showed a “different attitude” toward Blake than Andy Murray or Dick Norman. Monfils said:

I did not demonstrate because I have great respect for Blake. I admire Blake very much. . . Blake had an incredible career and an incredible comeback . . . I stopped a bit just out of respect for Blake.

So is Monfils saying he doesn’t respect Murray or Norman enough to contain his expressive outbursts?

All in, it looks like he’s got JP (Jerk Potential). But he’s just a kid, so we’ll cut him a break and wait and see.

I’m sorry I couldn’t watch the Nadal/Djokovic match very closely. I missed my opportunity to take a good long look and write a post on Djokovic. That one will have to wait. But I did catch a few games here and there; did you all happen to catch that leaping, backhand overhead drop shot that Nadal pulled out? How cool was that?

And there was another exchange in the press room, later, that left Nadal in a nice light. He was asked if, given his winning record against The Mighty Federer on different surfaces, he felt that he was the real No. 1, DRB answered:

Well, it's a strange question. He's No. 1. I'm No. 2. I feel I'm No. 2, which is what I am. How many points does he have? 7,000. Nobody else in the history of tennis has ever had that. Nobody has had such a high ranking No. 1, if you like. So, yeah, he's No. 1.

Then, to an inaudible follow-up, he replied:

Yes. Maybe Blake will win over me. It doesn't mean he feels like he's a No. 2 if he's No. 7.

oneandonlyhsn
06-07-2006, 07:41 PM
Did you watch the match?

He never led in a match but he did control most rallies and produced more winners . But he also commited many silly errors like at least a dozen dropshots into the net and had trouble returning Rafa's spin serve at first and later had trouble with his serve as well. So he was in control of most rallies but Rafa's experience, endurance and patience prevailed .

I agree with you, and before I am called a jealous Fedtard I think that most players who play aggressively against Nadal always feel they are in control of the match.
The only problem is that in a rally they are completely dominating the point against Rafa but the kid has such good defense that he forces his opponents to hit extra shots, drawing UE's hence the reason his opponents always have a very high error count against him. Also when he looks like he is out of a point he will hit a crazy passing shot from a crazy position and win a point.

Yowanna
06-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Knowing Novak, he never meant to be disrespectful. Partly, it's probably his English, and partly it is surely his excitement very soon after the match. From what he could have believed before the match, never playing Rafa before and playing him for the first time ever in the second week of his favourite tournament (and anyone who watched him last year or in the match against Monfils KNOW that Nole worked a lot on his conditioning, but it's still far from perfect especially so late in the tournament) I'm pretty sure he went out there and got ready to get buttkicked.
But he didn't. Not in that way. He got away with a very respectable two set result for ANY top 10 player (even Federer on his bad day) against Nadal on clay.
And I think that THAT was the thing that hit him on head and made him delusional :devil: Just the excitement of it all, to have problem with fitness, not to play that well, and still in the end not to loose 6:0, 6:0 agains "Clay-God"

THE PROBLEMS of Novak, on the other hand, are NOT gamesmanship. I remember his USO match with Monfils, and I know they're sort of pretty good friends now (which could have been seen in their match, cause Gael didn't do a lot of his "things" on court, even when he was leading in sets and "winning" and "controling the match" ;) ) and that EVEN Monfils himself knows about the surgery (it was a very difficult and delicate operation and they still weren't able to fix it to perfection, he's still in process of learning how to nosebreathe effectively), and again, if you wanna know what happened to him today, it was the same thing that would hit Monfils, Murray or Ancic (yesterday) so late in the tournament...ah those tall&slim youngsters :D It's fitness and fatigue and to say that Novak DIDN'T look bad in the second set or that he served 100% is plain rubbish. :mad: (as much as was Novak's statement if he meant, literally, that he was in control of the match :rolleyes: - which I don't think he really did, not in that way :p )

Another thing that I think affected his after match reactions is the fact that Nadal on clay and Federer (on any surface :worship: ) are made gods by the media, and that he wanted to express his disagreement with that. As PLENTY of other players did. It's not that he's saying they're not the best, it's saying media is doing a bad job by creating such extra hype about it that makes other players fear them more...then they enter their match with them and "know" they're gonna loose...and then they DO loose...it goes on in circles from that point...

And, while speaking of media, HOW RUDE were the comentators? Actually, the one that was replaced later on by Matts (in Ljubicic match)? (Gimme the name!!! :mad: ) It's not only that he thought Novak surrendered and lost the match after the first game or because of something I would only call sportsmanship (applauding Nadal's points, or shaking head in disbelief - he's just an extrovert :angel: ), but all the talk about what "I am satisfied" from his interviw meant... Afterwards, he admitted he didn't see his earlier matches (OBVIOUSLY, because Novak had THE SAME body language in all of his previous matches), but this guy and his "bad cop" attitude I remmember... He made me sick a couple of times before, I think last of them was with Myskina and her bad match in Rome... I mean, come on, I'm not her biggest fan but she's obviusly not having a great season and that day was one of the worst I've seen her play, but THAT language...he was bitching about her, trashing her around it was so disrespectful and just plain RUDE. :confused:

Anyways, I think even if Novak was 100% Nadal still would win, if nothing else because he's so confident (and of course he has everything to be proud and confident about) But, in a couple of matches time, I believe that Djokovic will be able to play with Nadal or Federer on more even terms... IF he keeps improving...
But then, what could one say about Monfils, who is such a great athlete and talent, but still sometimes lookes clueless and without strategy on court...

Go youngsters GO! ;)

Saumon
06-07-2006, 10:28 PM
I think he said that for his confidence :shrug: it's the bit the same thing when rafa kept saying he was not the favorite for rg when everyboy knew he was, to take off pressure :)

NYCtennisfan
06-07-2006, 10:38 PM
A healthy and mature Djokovic can and will in time beat just about anyone. I really don't have doubts about that, especially if he learns how to come in behind some huge groundstrokes and put away the point.

Given that, Djokovic needs to temper some of his comments a little He said he was in control of the match in MC when he couldn't win a point on Roger's serve in the deciding set. He said he didn't need to do anything special here? He COULDN't win a point on his serve.

Djokovic also said after his match against Haas that he didn't have to do anything special, just play his normal game. He has some extreme confidence going on and that is the only way that you are going to get to the top.

Deboogle!.
06-07-2006, 10:53 PM
I haven't seen/read the interview yet (will do so when I get home from work in a couple hours) but could there be a translation type of problem? If he said pretty much the exact same thing twice within short proximity of each other, is it at least a slight possibility that he was speaking in English and didn't really mean what he was saying? I don't know, I don't even know how good his English is. I'm just throwing it out there.

mangoes
06-07-2006, 11:32 PM
I haven't seen/read the interview yet (will do so when I get home from work in a couple hours) but could there be a translation type of problem? If he said pretty much the exact same thing twice within short proximity of each other, is it at least a slight possibility that he was speaking in English and didn't really mean what he was saying? I don't know, I don't even know how good his English is. I'm just throwing it out there.


Nope............. He kept explaining himself with each follow-up question :D He gave the media quite a chuckle today. It was Rafa that needed a quick translation out of mostly disbelief :lol:

mallorn
06-07-2006, 11:44 PM
Thanks to Mamasue of vr.com you can watch the relevant parts of Nole's press conference and Rafa's priceless reaction when he was asked about it. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFOIarW-48
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAG4URAX

mangoes
06-07-2006, 11:45 PM
Thanks to Mamasue of vr.com you can watch the relevant parts of Nole's press conference and Rafa's priceless reaction when he was asked about it. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFOIarW-48
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAG4URAX


I watched it a little while ago on Tivo, and it was indeed priceless :lol: :lol: It gave me a good laugh.

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 11:48 PM
Brad Gilbert will be proven wrong in time :eek:

mangoes
06-07-2006, 11:50 PM
Brad Gilbert will be proven wrong in time :eek:


What did he say??

From what I saw, he was to busy laughing and wondering if Djokovic was describing the match he, Brad, had been watching.......... The only prediction he made, that I happen to agree with, is that Nadal will be very determined to give Djokovic a serious beatdown the next time they meet.........

ezekiel
06-07-2006, 11:55 PM
Nope............. He kept explaining himself with each follow-up question :D He gave the media quite a chuckle today. It was Rafa that needed a quick translation out of mostly disbelief :lol:

What is your point?

Are you denying Novak's talent? You don't aggree that he was more aggressive? That he had his chances ? That he was physically incapacitated to finnish the match?

I mean it's one match and there are more to come. Against Rafa specifically who is a special player he will find out it's not enough to just be aggressive, he has to learn movement and get stronger . He's got much more to learn and much more experience to gain but he knows his talent and is not afraid to show it .

mangoes
06-08-2006, 12:00 AM
What is your point?

Are you denying Novak's talent? You don't aggree that he was more aggressive? That he had his chances ? That he was physically incapacitated to finnish the match?

I mean it's one match and there are more to come. Against Rafa specifically who is a special player he will find out it's not enough to just be aggressive, he has to learn movement and get stronger . He's got much more to learn and much more experience to gain but he knows his talent and is not afraid to show it .

Darling, I'm just laughing at the interview.........nothing else. I don't plan to give Djokovic any more thought.............and yes, Rafa will make a mental note of Djokovic's words and be very determined to show him a couple things next time they meet...........Will Djokovic beat Nadal on that occasion?? I don't know and I don't plan to think about it...........but I do hope Rafa wins their next encounter.

ezekiel
06-08-2006, 12:01 AM
What did he say??

From what I saw, he was to busy laughing and wondering if Djokovic was describing the match he, Brad, had been watching.......... The only prediction he made, that I happen to agree with, is that Nadal will be very determined to give Djokovic a serious beatdown the next time they meet.........

He was dissing his talent and showing a disturbing lack of objectivity as an analyst. I have no doubt Nadal will be motivated as he should be . I know that Novak always looks forward to playing top players and that's why he rarely plays lower tier tournaments . Hopefully they draw each other soon on grass :p

mangoes
06-08-2006, 12:05 AM
He was dissing his talent and showing a disturbing lack of objectivity as an analyst. I have no doubt Nadal will be motivated as he should be . I know that Novak always looks forward to playing top players and that's why he rarely plays lower tier tournaments . Hopefully they draw each other soon on grass :p


I don't know..........I didn't think so about Brad :shrug: Brad had very high expectations for Djokovic.........but I think it was Djokovic's interview that threw Brad into laughter.......he does think Djokovic has a lot of game, but he pointed out a couple things he needs to improve..........

ezekiel
06-08-2006, 12:15 AM
I don't know..........I didn't think so about Brad :shrug: Brad had very high expectations for Djokovic.........but I think it was Djokovic's interview that threw Brad into laughter.......he does think Djokovic has a lot of game, but he pointed out a couple things he needs to improve..........

Brad and espn crew has dissed him since the last USO and have done their best to ignore him which was evident in Monfils match . They have got an axe to grind. They sure as hell don't give him any credit nor do they mention that he took out 3 seeds here or that he is the youngest player in the top 100.

fenomeno2111
06-08-2006, 12:47 AM
Theoretically, all of Nadal's opponents are in control of their destiny. If you don't make 50 ufes, then you win. Easier said than done.

Why is it that everyone is coming out and attacking this kid ? Roger has dominated for years, receiving nothing but kind wishes and compliments from his opponents. We're talking about a guy that's absolutely ruthless on court, yet is admired and respected by his adversaries.

Nadal's game is a joke, everyone's coming out of the woodworks and smacking this kid around for playing garbage tennis. Just keep retrieving the ball and shouting "Vamos!", one of these days Nadal is gonna take a fall and never get up from it.

Enjoy it while you have it. What garbage to watch. Period. Brutto.

We have guys like

Andre Agassi
Marat Safin
Rod Laver
and plenty of others, let's not include all of Nadal's opponents whom also have received their fair share of abuse from Roger, yet when push comes to shove are willing to concede that Mr. Federer is superior.

One thing remains constant ....

" He's only beating Roger because of the lefty thing "
" He's not in control blah blah, Roger choked "
" Roger is the best, he'll figure him out "

If Roger makes the Final and beats Nadal on Sunday, Nadal's career is over. End of story. He can't play for shit on hard courts or grass, if Roger takes away the only thing you have ... retire and save your body.

Why are you always that much of a douchebag? I mean, you (and probably Xristos) are the most pathetic individuals on this board. You hate a tennis player that is succesful just beacuase he doesn't play the kind of game you like. I'm not saying his game is beautiful or anything but he has a lot of talent on his own way and he WINS matches. Most of the players on tour would like to achieve half of what Nadal has achieved and you are saying his garbage. What makes you think Roger is going to be playing on sunday? Why will Nadal's career go down if he loses, Are you retarded? About Nadal not being able to play on HCs I'm not even going to answer that one, just to remind you he won two AMS on this surface beating one of the best HC players in history and then beating one of the best HC players of the season...ohh he also beat JesusFed on hardcourts(2 times) . Maybe on grass you are right but he can still lose all HC and grass matches and keep winning on clay and be a top10 player ;)
I don't get the idea of charging your favourite player's rival just to make him look better, that is just plain childish and stubborn and can only come from short-minded people like you. Cocciuto

uglyamerican
06-08-2006, 01:05 AM
I don't think that it's a bad thing that Novak seemed out of his mind. I don't see too many fans of Novak being put off by what he said. He likes to stir up controversy. He let the British Nationality thing go on for a while for some reason. I'd rather support a crazy athlete than a boring one.

Deboogle!.
06-08-2006, 01:40 AM
Brad and espn crew has dissed him since the last USO and have done their best to ignore him which was evident in Monfils match . They have got an axe to grind. They sure as hell don't give him any credit nor do they mention that he took out 3 seeds here or that he is the youngest player in the top 100.Well that makes no sense, since neither Brad nor ESPN have a single thing to do with the USO.

Anyway now I've watched the clips and can judge for myself. After reading this thread and stuff, I was expecting a lot worse. He thinks he was playing pretty well and had chances despite his back hurting and he feels that he would've had a chance to win had he been healthy and that Rafa is, though the best on clay, not unbeatable on it..... I don't think he was really speaking rocket science. Maybe he should've been a tad tactful and chosen his words a little better, but English is not his first language and it just didn't seem that terribly outlandish to me.

uglyamerican
06-08-2006, 01:47 AM
If you're not here to express outrage, or to make a sketchy defense...I just don't know what to say.

Carito_90
06-08-2006, 01:49 AM
I've just read the interview, and he never said he had been in control because he was playing better than Rafa. He said he felt he was in control because he was being the offensive one whereas Rafa was defending, so the match depended on whether he missed the ball or not. Of course, he had never played Rafa so maybe he didn't actually realize that's what Nadal makes you do... hit shot after shot until you miss the ball.

If he felt that way, like he was playing really well and hitting the ball well and didn't feel Nadal was outplaying him, then it's okay. In the end, he was the one in the court playing, not us.

I just think it's awful that people are laughing at him like he just said the US was in Europe you know. :rolleyes: English is not even the kid's first language, geez. All of a sudden I'm back in primary school.

Deboogle!.
06-08-2006, 01:59 AM
If you're not here to express outrage, or to make a sketchy defense...I just don't know what to say.I'm not here for either of those things :sad:

Carito_90
06-08-2006, 02:00 AM
Anyway now I've watched the clips and can judge for myself. After reading this thread and stuff, I was expecting a lot worse. He thinks he was playing pretty well and had chances despite his back hurting and he feels that he would've had a chance to win had he been healthy and that Rafa is, though the best on clay, not unbeatable on it..... I don't think he was really speaking rocket science. Maybe he should've been a tad tactful and chosen his words a little better, but English is not his first language and it just didn't seem that terribly outlandish to me.

It's MTF. You should know better Deb! :lol:

Carito_90
06-08-2006, 02:05 AM
Two more things:

1) Rafa was told Novak had said "he had the match under control" when Nole actually said "he had the control in the match" which are two completely different things.

2) Brad, shut up. You're not funny.

Mimi
06-08-2006, 03:20 AM
excellent post :bowdown: :woohoo:
Why are you always that much of a douchebag? I mean, you (and probably Xristos) are the most pathetic individuals on this board. You hate a tennis player that is succesful just beacuase he doesn't play the kind of game you like. I'm not saying his game is beautiful or anything but he has a lot of talent on his own way and he WINS matches. Most of the players on tour would like to achieve half of what Nadal has achieved and you are saying his garbage. What makes you think Roger is going to be playing on sunday? Why will Nadal's career go down if he loses, Are you retarded? About Nadal not being able to play on HCs I'm not even going to answer that one, just to remind you he won two AMS on this surface beating one of the best HC players in history and then beating one of the best HC players of the season...ohh he also beat JesusFed on hardcourts(2 times) . Maybe on grass you are right but he can still lose all HC and grass matches and keep winning on clay and be a top10 player ;)
I don't get the idea of charging your favourite player's rival just to make him look better, that is just plain childish and stubborn and can only come from short-minded people like you. Cocciuto

musicilike
06-08-2006, 03:24 AM
but i think nole's english pronounciation is better than rafa :)

knight_ley
06-08-2006, 04:16 AM
Why are you always that much of a douchebag? I mean, you (and probably Xristos) are the most pathetic individuals on this board. You hate a tennis player that is succesful just beacuase he doesn't play the kind of game you like. I'm not saying his game is beautiful or anything but he has a lot of talent on his own way and he WINS matches. Most of the players on tour would like to achieve half of what Nadal has achieved and you are saying his garbage. What makes you think Roger is going to be playing on sunday? Why will Nadal's career go down if he loses, Are you retarded? About Nadal not being able to play on HCs I'm not even going to answer that one, just to remind you he won two AMS on this surface beating one of the best HC players in history and then beating one of the best HC players of the season...ohh he also beat JesusFed on hardcourts(2 times) . Maybe on grass you are right but he can still lose all HC and grass matches and keep winning on clay and be a top10 player ;)
I don't get the idea of charging your favourite player's rival just to make him look better, that is just plain childish and stubborn and can only come from short-minded people like you. Cocciuto

:worship:

admiralpye
06-08-2006, 04:55 AM
but i think nole's english pronounciation is better than rafa :)

Yes, definitely. Rafa's English vocab is improving, but there's still a tendency for him to speak Spanglish ("aported" or aportado for "supported", for example). But the good thing is they both know it's part of being a top player to learn English, and they're doing their best.

By the way, what was Rafa doing towards the end of his interview, when he suddenly tucked his face onto his shirt sleeve?

Castafiore
06-08-2006, 07:32 AM
I haven't read every post in this thread so, sorry if I'm repeating.

It's not the case in every match but in general, I have the tendency to have the following impression:

*that Roger Federer prefers to go for the quick kill. He has a more attacking game so he likes to sufficate his "victims" as quickly as possible. It's not often that you encounter an opponent who is brave enough to put up a fight against this supreme, cold killer - the smooth operator.
* Rafael Nadal prefers the slow torture method . He tends to prefer the slow kill - he loves the cat and mouse game. He often has the tendency to let the other guy take the initiative and he'll respond with his excellent defensive skills so the other guy believes that he's in control of the exchange...but... - and that's one thing Rafael does so well - Nadal can switch from defensive to offence in a flash.
So, although it looks like the other player controlled the majority of the rally, it's quite often (on clay at least) Rafael who gets the last laugh.
I also think that this is why many players leave the court frustrated: "what happened there exactly? I was in full control of the situation and suddenly it was all over...? :confused:
IMO, Djokovic was referring to that: in many exchanges, Rafael let Novak take the initiative and he used his defensive skills until he found an opening to go in for the kill. If you look at the entire picture, Djokovic never had full control of the match.
Looking to the future, you can easily see the potential in Djokovic, esp. on faster surfaces. If Djokovic and Nadal were to meet on a faster surface, I think that Rafa will have his work cut out against him.

That said: I love Rafael's defensive skills and even more his ability to suddenly turn his defence into an attack mode but I would like him to be more aggressive. I know he can do it because I've seen him do it often enough (I mean, not be too defensive but take control of the rally and be on the attack).I think he's learning to do so but he still tends to fall back to his defensive skills a bit too much IMO.

yanchr
06-08-2006, 07:36 AM
Thanks to Mamasue of vr.com you can watch the relevant parts of Nole's press conference and Rafa's priceless reaction when he was asked about it. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFOIarW-48
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TAG4URAX
:lol: Thanks for a very good laugh. Rafa's reaction is really priceless :haha:

yanchr
06-08-2006, 07:44 AM
I've just read the interview, and he never said he had been in control because he was playing better than Rafa. He said he felt he was in control because he was being the offensive one whereas Rafa was defending, so the match depended on whether he missed the ball or not. Of course, he had never played Rafa so maybe he didn't actually realize that's what Nadal makes you do... hit shot after shot until you miss the ball.
I happen to agree with this. Nole, by saying he was in control, meant he was the attaching player, which I see nothing wrong, though the way the interview came out and Rafa's reaction is really funny :lol:

Nole has some unbelievable self-belief. The way he said Nadal was beatable was to me very impressive, and you can tell you really believe he can win. He has a good game. Maybe in a couple years we can see him pull it altogether.

connectolove
06-08-2006, 07:47 AM
posted by Castafiore: "It's not the case in every match but in general, I have the tendency to have the following impression:

*that Roger Federer prefers to go for the quick kill. He has a more attacking game so he likes to sufficate his "victims" as quickly as possible. It's not often that you encounter an opponent who is brave enough to put up a fight against this supreme, cold killer - the smooth operator.
* Rafael Nadal prefers the slow torture method . He tends to prefer the slow kill - he loves the cat and mouse game. He often has the tendency to let the other guy take the initiative and he'll respond with his excellent defensive skills so the other guy believes that he's in control of the exchange...but... - and that's one thing Rafael does so well - Nadal can switch from defensive to offence in a flash.
So, although it looks like the other player controlled the majority of the rally, it's quite often (on clay at least) Rafael who gets the last laugh.
I also think that this is why many players leave the court frustrated: "what happened there exactly? I was in full control of the situation and suddenly it was all over...?
IMO, Djokovic was referring to that: in many exchanges, Rafael let Novak take the initiative and he used his defensive skills until he found an opening to go in for the kill. If you look at the entire picture, Djokovic never had full control of the match.
Looking to the future, you can easily see the potential in Djokovic, esp. on faster surfaces. If Djokovic and Nadal were to meet on a faster surface, I think that Rafa will have his work cut out against him.

That said: I love Rafael's defensive skills and even more his ability to suddenly turn his defence into an attack mode but I would like him to be more aggressive. I know he can do it because I've seen him do it often enough (I mean, not be too defensive but take control of the rally and be on the attack).I think he's learning to do so but he still tends to fall back to his defensive skills a bit too much IMO."

Boy, I think that you just nailed it. This is a great way of explaining both players´ games. Nadal does not like to start super agressive, I think it is his nature. He is not a natural killer but he can become one if he has to. He wants to be forced to kill.

mandoura
06-08-2006, 09:10 AM
I haven't read every post in this thread so, sorry if I'm repeating.

It's not the case in every match but in general, I have the tendency to have the following impression:

*that Roger Federer prefers to go for the quick kill. He has a more attacking game so he likes to sufficate his "victims" as quickly as possible. It's not often that you encounter an opponent who is brave enough to put up a fight against this supreme, cold killer - the smooth operator.
* Rafael Nadal prefers the slow torture method . He tends to prefer the slow kill - he loves the cat and mouse game. He often has the tendency to let the other guy take the initiative and he'll respond with his excellent defensive skills so the other guy believes that he's in control of the exchange...but... - and that's one thing Rafael does so well - Nadal can switch from defensive to offence in a flash.
So, although it looks like the other player controlled the majority of the rally, it's quite often (on clay at least) Rafael who gets the last laugh.
I also think that this is why many players leave the court frustrated: "what happened there exactly? I was in full control of the situation and suddenly it was all over...? :confused:
IMO, Djokovic was referring to that: in many exchanges, Rafael let Novak take the initiative and he used his defensive skills until he found an opening to go in for the kill. If you look at the entire picture, Djokovic never had full control of the match.
Looking to the future, you can easily see the potential in Djokovic, esp. on faster surfaces. If Djokovic and Nadal were to meet on a faster surface, I think that Rafa will have his work cut out against him.

That said: I love Rafael's defensive skills and even more his ability to suddenly turn his defence into an attack mode but I would like him to be more aggressive. I know he can do it because I've seen him do it often enough (I mean, not be too defensive but take control of the rally and be on the attack).I think he's learning to do so but he still tends to fall back to his defensive skills a bit too much IMO.

Absolutely. This is exactly how I see it and how I would have explained Nole's statement. And yes, he has potentials. And yes again to the last paragraph.

You know what? :worship: to the whole post. :D

BelgianWaffle
06-08-2006, 09:12 AM
I've read it and I was wondering if he took a blow to the head at some point because, with respect, at no stage was he in control.

In Rafa's interview they asked him about that and he seemed quite surprised - he answered fairly diplomatically but you could tell by the answer that we though Djoko was talking out of his arse a bit.
:lol:

I agree though. He didn't look in control at all. He was merely 'keeping up'.

mandoura
06-08-2006, 09:13 AM
:lol: Thanks for a very good laugh. Rafa's reaction is really priceless :haha:

:haha: He's a great guy. In all honnesty and fairness, I really cannot understand how anyone will not like this guy (can't say kid anymore ;) ) . :D

mallorn
06-08-2006, 09:38 AM
I happen to agree with this. Nole, by saying he was in control, meant he was the attaching player, which I see nothing wrong, though the way the interview came out and Rafa's reaction is really funny :lol:

Nole has some unbelievable self-belief. The way he said Nadal was beatable was to me very impressive, and you can tell you really believe he can win. He has a good game. Maybe in a couple years we can see him pull it altogether.
I also think that's what he meant and I like that he has self-belief. But there were also a couple of lines which made me think he's in denial. ;)
...I think I was in control because I think everything was depending on me...
Please. Rafa did have a say in the match as well. :rolleyes:
…I broke him back like two times in the second set…
Rafa gave back the two breaks on a silver plate because he lost his concentration after the ITO. He kept waiting for Nole to retire instead of playing his own game, silly boy. :smash:


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Castafiore again. :(
Great post. :yeah:

yanchr
06-08-2006, 09:54 AM
:haha: He's a great guy. In all honnesty and fairness, I really cannot understand how anyone will not like this guy (can't say kid anymore ;) ) . :D
He was cute and lovable in the PC, but it's not enough for many to like him I guess, esp those who are not impressed by his game, me included :p

yanchr
06-08-2006, 09:55 AM
I also think that's what he meant and I like that he has self-belief. But there were also a couple of lines which made me think he's in denial. ;)
Oh I forgot, that's also part of my impression. :wavey:

mandoura
06-08-2006, 02:31 PM
He was cute and lovable in the PC, but it's not enough for many to like him I guess, esp those who are not impressed by his game, me included :p

It's ok. :lol:

Experimentee
06-08-2006, 03:03 PM
I read the whole interview. He was totally misinterpreted. When he said he was in control, he meant that he was dictating the points, which was true. Its also true that he had some chances, but lost them, and if he'd taken them he could have won. He also realised that he could match it with Nadal by playing his own game. Nothing wrong with what he said at all.

Experimentee
06-08-2006, 03:12 PM
I also think its great that Novak thinks Nadal is beatable, it shows that he has confidence in himself. If you can play someone 6-4 6-4 when you arent 100% fit, its pretty close, and you'd always have a chance to beat them next time. I dont know why everyones acting like what he said was so disrespectful. If everyone thought Nadal was unbeatable, no one would ever beat him.

mongo
06-08-2006, 04:20 PM
Considering I went "all-in" with my v-chips on Novak, no one would confuse me of being in Nadal's camp. Having said that, Nadal's reaction to Djokovic's statement upstaged Novak.

Yowanna
06-08-2006, 04:52 PM
I don't know about (all) the commentators and their right to be mean to some players while at the same time too forgiving when it comes to others; but I can tell you for sure Djokovic hasn't been faking injuries.
The only reason he has (had?) this sort of reputation is the 2005 USO match against Monfils, where people thought that his injury time out helped him win the last set. I already said a lot about that, but I think the best proof is that Novak and Monfils (who didn't know each other very well at that time) are now, AFTER that, very good friends. :clap2: :hug: :yippee:
Also, he had a SURGERY for the problem, and I really don't think anyone believes that could be faked.

As far as other things, it's usually just fatigue (and THAT hits all young-tall-n-slim players nowadays, I believe I put Murray, Monfils and Ancic as example) and you can't really blame any of them for the rule some people obviusly strongly diapprove of. :rolleyes:
Anyways, can anyone call a young player who reached QF of GS and has beaten 3 seeds on his way that he has no heart?!

Those type of comments make me just question the power we grant to reporters and media, and the belief we have in them.
(if anyone can tell me the name of the thread with stupid questions to players, it had some great examples of misinterpretation of wonderful players, I wanna see it all over again :worship: )

tangerine_dream
06-08-2006, 09:49 PM
Well, I guess this sortof answers my question (from today's SI mailbag):

The more I see of Rafael Nadal, the more I like him. His answers are wise, he doesn't get into a verbal tussle re: Federer and he keeps as close to under the radar as he can, which is really good counsel from his camp. In contrast, Novak Djokovic plays more with his ego than his ability. The crap he pulled on Gael Monfils at the U.S. Open and he tried to pull at the French Open with Nadal was ridiculous. He seems to have no idea about his potential verses his ability and experience level right now. And when challenged he pretends to be injured, which may have worked in the juniors but doesn't get to world-level players. What do you think of his ploys? And what do you think of Nadal and what he can do this year after the French?
-- Cate N., Bethesda, Md.

You packed a whole lot of questions in there, but 1) I'm with you on Nadal. He's awfully self-possessed and won't let himself be drawn into controversy. Djokovic makes the preposterous remark that he was controlling yesterday's match, and Nadal shrugs it off. The subtext of his measured response: I'm here to win a major; I can't be bothered with that guy's delusions. Hard to believe those two are virtually the same age. Which leads us to: 2) Djokovic is, unquestionably, a talent. And if he's confusing his potential with his ability, I don't think it's altogether a bad thing. But he's starting to get a bad rap for his gamesmanship and attitude. The ploy against Monfils at the Open was really bush league. 3) As we said the other day, Nadal will win Slams in addition to the French before he's done. Watch him play in person and you're really struck by his movement, his defense and his immunity from lapses. The guy just always seems to be "on."

ezekiel
06-08-2006, 10:04 PM
please make sure to post that you quoted Jon Wertheim , that explains the post

CassL
06-08-2006, 10:07 PM
I can't believe that people are still talking about that USO match. It's not Djokovic's fault that it took the trainer 10 minutes to arrive to the court.

oneandonlyhsn
06-08-2006, 10:08 PM
please make sure to post that you quoted Jon Wertheim , that explains the post

I dont know who is worse him or Peter Bozo

rofe
06-08-2006, 10:28 PM
I can't believe that people are all over Novak for saying he felt in control in that match especially idiots like Gilbert.

a) He is 19 yrs old. Not everyone can be as mature as Nadal.
b) Even mature players feel that they are in control because they don't understand that a fairly high percentage of their UFEs are actually forced by Nadal's game so I am certainly not going to criticize Novak for saying that. He will realize it soon enough if he plays Nadal more.

Vasillisa
06-09-2006, 06:30 AM
"I read the whole interview. He was totally misinterpreted. When he said he was in control, he meant that he was dictating the points, which was true. Its also true that he had some chances, but lost them, and if he'd taken them he could have won. He also realised that he could match it with Nadal by playing his own game. Nothing wrong with what he said at all.

I also think its great that Novak thinks Nadal is beatable, it shows that he has confidence in himself. If you can play someone 6-4 6-4 when you arent 100% fit, its pretty close, and you'd always have a chance to beat them next time. I dont know why everyones acting like what he said was so disrespectful. If everyone thought Nadal was unbeatable, no one would ever beat him."



I agree. Also everyone should stop blowing this out of proportion. Professional Tennis is a wonderful sport that we're all allowed to watch. We all enjoy it so much because of these phenonemal tennis players who train very hard to bring us tennis. Alot of these tennis players probably read these forums. If anything we should encourage Novak Djokovic. He was playing with injuries too. So let's not forget that and let's support these wonderful,exotic, handsome men. It is the least we can do for them. Novak Djokovic if you read this I support you!!

Vasillisa
06-09-2006, 06:33 AM
"I read the whole interview. He was totally misinterpreted. When he said he was in control, he meant that he was dictating the points, which was true. Its also true that he had some chances, but lost them, and if he'd taken them he could have won. He also realised that he could match it with Nadal by playing his own game. Nothing wrong with what he said at all.

I also think its great that Novak thinks Nadal is beatable, it shows that he has confidence in himself. If you can play someone 6-4 6-4 when you arent 100% fit, its pretty close, and you'd always have a chance to beat them next time. I dont know why everyones acting like what he said was so disrespectful. If everyone thought Nadal was unbeatable, no one would ever beat him."



I agree. First if you listen to the Nadal interview when he's responding about Novak's comments Nadal is very polite and says he doesn't have to answer and Nadal says it is okay if in fact Djokovic said that. It is obvious Nadal felt uncomfortable answering this question. He knew media was trying to create unecessary drama. The media has a job to dramatize events and so they did. Both Nadal and Djokovic are gentlemen. Also everyone should stop blowing this out of proportion. Professional Tennis is a wonderful sport that we're all allowed to watch. We all enjoy it so much because of these phenonemal tennis players who train very hard to bring us tennis. Alot of these tennis players probably read these forums. We all should be careful and considerate so as not to hurt anyone's feelings. These tennis players maybe competitive, young, energetic men, but they are all human.If anything we should encourage Novak Djokovic. He was playing with injuries too. So let's not forget that and let's support these wonderful,exotic, handsome men. It is the least we can do for them. Novak Djokovic if you read this I support you!!