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Ljubicic's Road to the Semis: Easiest Ever?

Leo
06-07-2006, 05:08 PM
For all you staticians out there, I'm wondering if Ljubicic's draw to a Grand Slam semifinal is the weakest in history. The best player he had to beat in his 5 wins was #79 in the world. I can't imagine more of a cakewalk than that.

DDrago2
06-07-2006, 05:09 PM
If not THE easiest, one of the easiest definitely

Johnny Groove
06-07-2006, 05:10 PM
The real question is:

Which is a bigger joke? Ljubo's road to the semis or ESPN's coverage?

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:11 PM
I am sure that Henman at Wimbledon has had an easier run in

his run to the semis at Roland garros was really easy too.
Still, a really easy draw.

tangerine_dream
06-07-2006, 05:11 PM
Definitely Ljubo's road to the semis.

hitchhiker
06-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Sampras road to the final Wimbledon 2000

Round 1: Vanek #80
Round 2: Kucera #40
Round 3: Gimelstob #99
Round 4: Bjorkman #78
Q: Gambill #56
SF: Volchkov #237

vincayou
06-07-2006, 05:15 PM
From the #79 to Nadal on clay. A nice gap of difficulty. :)

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Grand Slam, 24-Jun-02, O, Grass , Draw: 128


R128 Bachelot, Jean-Francois (FRA) 165 6-1 6-3 6-2
R64 Draper, Scott (AUS) 230 3-6 6-3 6-4 6-3
R32 Ferreira, Wayne (RSA) 51 7-6(6) 3-6 7-6(10) 6-1
R16 Kratochvil, Michel (SUI) 45 7-6(5) 6-7(2) 4-6 6-3 6-2
Q Sa, Andre (BRA) 90 6-3 5-7 6-4 6-3



That is even easier

croat123
06-07-2006, 05:17 PM
quite possibly :)

Yergeht Fladnag
06-07-2006, 05:18 PM
Definitely Ljubo's road to the semis.

Let's see (again):

Benneteau defeated Baghdatis and Stepanek
Ramirez Hidalgo defeated C. Rochus and D. Ferrer
Monaco defeated Verdasco


Would you like more if he played Vercasco, Ferrer and Baghdatis? Well, they all got their chance... :rolleyes:

vincayou
06-07-2006, 05:20 PM
Apart from Ferrer, nobody was really a serious contender in his quarter.

Ferrer... will be disgusted for a long time.

Deivid23
06-07-2006, 05:23 PM
Let's see (again):

Benneteau defeated Baghdatis and Stepanek
Ramirez Hidalgo defeated C. Rochus and D. Ferrer
Monaco defeated Verdasco


Would you like more if he played Vercasco, Ferrer and Baghdatis? Well, they all got their chance... :rolleyes:

:retard:

Deivid23
06-07-2006, 05:23 PM
Apart from Ferrer, nobody was really a serious contender in his quarter.

Ferrer... will be disgusted for a long time.

David must be banging his head against a wall atm

Nacho
06-07-2006, 05:35 PM
Also Ferrero in Aus Open 04, although it wasn't as easy as the ones listed above. He only faced one top 50 player

1R #82 Albert Montañes
2R #46 Filippo Volandri
3R #90 Joachim Johansson
4R #67 Andrei Pavel
QF #51 Hicham Arazi
SF #2 Roger Federer

R.Federer
06-07-2006, 05:48 PM
David must be banging his head against a wall atm
Isn't this also andi's quarter? This was a great chance for roddick to make a showing at possibly his worst slam ..... too bad about his injury

Argenbrit
06-07-2006, 06:11 PM
It was probably one of the easiest, yeah.

scoobs
06-07-2006, 06:14 PM
Pretty easy, definitely.

But he can only play the opponent who comes through the opposite match in his bit of the draw - it's not his fault if the class players were beaten by lower ranked journeymen before they got to him.

He's taken advantage of the situation when nobody else, like Ferrer, Rochus, Stepanek, could. Well done to him for that.

GermanBoy
06-07-2006, 06:17 PM
What is the point of this ridiculous thread? :rolleyes:

scoobs
06-07-2006, 06:20 PM
What is the point of this ridiculous thread? :rolleyes:
We have to make Ivan feel bad about getting to the Semis, you see - some people will never see him as a legitimate player no matter what he does :)

Fact is he's one of the 4 left standing when the music stops.

All the others had their chances and blew it. He didn't, and he's still here.

Winston's Human
06-07-2006, 06:26 PM
As I always say when the same criticisms are made about Roddick's path, a player can only play those he is scheduled to play.

If other seeded players or other big-name players were upset before facing Ljubicic, that is hardly something for which Ljubicic should be criticized.

Leo
06-07-2006, 06:27 PM
We have to make Ivan feel bad about getting to the Semis, you see - some people will never see him as a legitimate player no matter what he does :)

Fact is he's one of the 4 left standing when the music stops.

All the others had their chances and blew it. He didn't, and he's still here.

Don't be a dumbass. I didn't blame Ivan. I didn't say a bad word against him. There's no doubt he's handled the players he's been given very well.

It's just a fact that he's had a very easy draw. Not beating anyone in the Top 70 to make the semis of a Slam? It's unheard of.

Thank you to all those who answered my question and posted some other pathetic draws en route to the SF. Ivan's is still the easiest.

Leo
06-07-2006, 06:28 PM
As I always say when the same criticisms are made about Roddick's path, a player can only play those he is scheduled to play.

If other seeded players or other big-name players were upset before facing Ljubicic, that is hardly something for which Ljubicic should be criticized.

I'm yet to find any criticism in this thread, actually.

Leo
06-07-2006, 06:30 PM
David must be banging his head against a wall atm

I think Ferrer and Stepanek blew it big time. They've been strong clay court players the past two seasons and definitely could have made the semis. Perhaps they realized what a tremendous opportunity it was and choked.

reece
06-07-2006, 06:30 PM
We have to make Ivan feel bad about getting to the Semis, you see - some people will never see him as a legitimate player no matter what he does :)

I disagree. It's just quite interesting that you can reach a slam SF and not play a top 75 opponent, because this is rare.
Whether it's Ljubicic's path or Federer's or Nadal's is not the point, nobody is bashing Ljubicic.

pesto
06-07-2006, 06:38 PM
I like Ljubo, and you can only beat who you play, but there is no doubt that it was a remarkably kind draw.

It always looked like the weakest quarter, but even so, I'd have backed most of the seeds to get further than they did.

The problem now is that no-one he has played really serves as a warm-up for playing Nadal on clay, so 10 to 1 it stops here. Still, he'll be happy - he's got further than he will have expected, with less effort, and it'll be good for his ranking and confidence, and no-one should bash him if he loses on Friday.

Mechlan
06-07-2006, 06:45 PM
It was a nice draw for him, but Ljubo did what he had to, he beat the players placed in front of him, and that's sure as hell better than a lot of people thought he'd do at RG.

ys
06-07-2006, 09:29 PM
Being ranked high has its rewards. Nothing new..

Deboogle!.
06-07-2006, 09:32 PM
I think Ferrer and Stepanek blew it big time. They've been strong clay court players the past two seasons and definitely could have made the semis. Perhaps they realized what a tremendous opportunity it was and choked.Yes, they effed up my fantasy team too :mad: :lol: :p

almouchie
06-07-2006, 09:38 PM
sampras was no1
his draw just seemed to open up
not like he was ever going to be challenged
Lubo deserves to be here
federer had 2 play 2 qualifiers yet to play a atp match
enough said

scoobs
06-07-2006, 09:40 PM
Masters Series draws are often more challenging than Slams in terms of the quality of player you have to deal with from the start, it looks like to me.

But best of 5 sets over two weeks have their own pressures.

El Legenda
06-07-2006, 10:17 PM
well considering that clay is Ivan 38th fav surface :) and playing 3-4 players who's fav surface is clay, i say this draw was about avg :)

Pea
06-07-2006, 10:55 PM
If only rodduck stayed longer to contend with Ivan it wouldn't be considered such a cakewalk.:bigcry:

tennis_freak67
06-07-2006, 11:00 PM
If only rodduck stayed longer to contend with Ivan it wouldn't be considered such a cakewalk.:bigcry:

:retard:

R.Federer
06-07-2006, 11:15 PM
federer had 2 play 2 qualifiers yet to play a atp match
enough said
point noted, and its a fair one
but how easy a draw is also looks at what are the highest ranks a player has had to play, and playing massu, mario and berdych were not seen as easy ones. ivan played who was put in front of him -not his fault that they were very low ranked players, but regardless, that made his draw much softer.

Luck is a big part of winning a slam, and ivan got a good stroke of that luck and hats off to him for making the most of it

jayrhum
06-07-2006, 11:17 PM
I've seen harder.

mangoes
06-07-2006, 11:19 PM
Ivan saw the luck of his draw and took advantage of it. The person who needs to be knocked in the head for friggin up in Ivan's draw is Ferrer. Never has Ferrer had such an easy path in a GS..........and the French of all slams. Did he make the best of his opportunity??? No. Congrats to Ivan who made the best of a very nice draw.

Now, for some reason, I think Ivan would love to have this same draw at the US Open....... :lol:

NYCtennisfan
06-08-2006, 12:02 AM
It was a great draw for Ivan but he took advantage of it. Nobody hands the matches to you and he had to go out there and win on his worst surface. Great effort Ivan!

LaTenista
06-08-2006, 12:12 AM
David must be banging his head against a wall atm

Oh yes, first he hands Robredo the trophy in Hamburg and now he suspiciously loses to another countryman who happened to have been his pigeon (5-0 h2h previously). Gone mental after me & the rest of the chicas left RG. :rolleyes:

:shrug: Honestly have no clue what's up with him as he's not on the entry lists for any of the grass warm ups. Is he really going to spend 3 weeks practicing on red artificial grass so he lose early at Wimbledon again? :confused:

mr_burns
06-08-2006, 12:21 AM
Sampras road to the final Wimbledon 2000

Round 1: Vanek #80
Round 2: Kucera #40
Round 3: Gimelstob #99
Round 4: Bjorkman #78
Q: Gambill #56
SF: Volchkov #237
Not the best rankings, but 2 former top 10, and some good grass court players

kucera was very hard fpr sampras to beat, not that easy

Scotso
06-08-2006, 03:56 AM
Definitely a pathetic path to the semis... but it happens.

Too bad for David.

bad gambler
06-08-2006, 03:57 AM
Very easy but Ljubicic can only play the person who is on the other side of the court and he was good enough to take advantage of the draw

silverwhite
06-08-2006, 04:05 AM
I don't think anyone's blaming Ljubo. It's just that being in the SFs is not as big an achievement as some of his crazed fans make it out to be, considering the draw. :shrug:

Merton
06-08-2006, 04:11 AM
It would be a normal draw if it was Verdasco in R3 and Ferrer in R4.