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Will Wimbledon 2006 be better than RG 2006?

betterthanhenman
06-07-2006, 03:45 PM
Although RG ain't over yet, what do you think...

betterthanhenman
06-07-2006, 03:47 PM
My own view is that this RG has not been one of the best. Previous years were more interesting for me.

Great semis and finals could still change that though.

Guybrush
06-07-2006, 03:48 PM
Wimblendon is ALWAYS better then RG. Clay sucks :p

Trivial
06-07-2006, 04:02 PM
Yea.. for some unknown reason this years RG hasnt been quite entertaining as last years...maybe it was the rising of nadal. However as you said the tournament hasnt yet finished so lets hope that the semis will be interesting, however i cant see Ljubicic (or Benneteau...only one game away from defeat as i write this) challenging Nadal... so bring on the Fed/Nalbandian match up!!

TheMightyFed
06-07-2006, 04:11 PM
The only possibility of Fed doing the non calendar slam in RG makes it quite exciting. Wimby is pretty much secured by Fed baring injuries.

oneandonlyhsn
06-07-2006, 04:30 PM
The best thing about RG is that clay will be finally over :woohoo:

mandy20
06-07-2006, 04:40 PM
Andre will be back that will be great for the grass

Guybrush
06-07-2006, 04:45 PM
The best thing about RG is that clay will be finally over :woohoo:

:yeah:

*Ljubica*
06-07-2006, 04:46 PM
I think my signature says it all - I am a clay court snob and I hate the grass -it should be kept for cows as someone once famously said. :angel: I already can't wait for Gstaad and Bastad which start on July 10th - and in the meantime there are lots of nice Challegers in Projestov, Lugano and Braunschweig to keep my tennis interest from waning completely :)

Having said that - I agree that this year's RG hasn't been the best - very few matches have caught my attention - even the ones I attended live when I was there last week. The poor weather didn't help - very grey and damp and dismal in the first week - and the fact that Nadal is still pretty much unchallenged up til now hasn't helped :rolleyes:

Jimnik
06-07-2006, 04:46 PM
It's been a very boring Roland Garros but is there anything to suggest that Wimbledon will be much better?

Hopefully on Sunday we'll see another Roger-Rafa classic. Unfortunately it could be the only highlight of a boring summer of tennis.

But I think the US Open could be a classic this year. By then hopefully Agassi, Baghdatis, Berdych, Gasquet, Roddick and Safin will be back to their best.

Freeze17171
06-07-2006, 04:47 PM
I love watching clay more than any other surface, however today has to be one of the worst quarterfinal days in a long time.

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 04:50 PM
Roland Garros this year hasn't been particularly good. I usually much prefer clay but with the abscence of a few entertaining players, RG has seemed pretty boring to me.
I don't think that Wimbledon will be very good either.

It depends on the last 3 matches at roland garros. I expect that the french will have better tennis than wimbledon, it usually does.

DDrago2
06-07-2006, 04:51 PM
I defenitely preffer Wimbledon, and I also hope that draw will be more balanced than on RG, which had most of the top caly-courters on same side of the draw (Federer's)

Chloe le Bopper
06-07-2006, 04:52 PM
I find that Wimbledon tends to blow. I feel that this year will probably be no different.

At least at RG we still have Nadal-Federer to look forward to in the finals. What do we have at Wimbledon? Federer versus one of his bitches? At least the RG final will probably be a match and we don't already know the result of it.

croat123
06-07-2006, 04:55 PM
today was boring, but the semis should be good stuff.

i'm just happy that the clay season is almost over :D hope ivan can do some damage on the grass, i know mario will

scoobs
06-07-2006, 04:55 PM
RG has been a bit flat, all things considered, and the dirtballers who did make it here have mostly lost early.

There's the prospect of a good end to the tournament, though.

But I see Wimbledon as being even less competitive, really. Unless Federer the Great suddenly demonstrates enormous frailty on the grass or he falls under a bus on Church Road, I really don't see anyone else winning that title.

Jimnik
06-07-2006, 04:56 PM
I think a lot will depend on how the likes of Baghdatis, Gasquet, Gonzalez and Safin will perform on grass. If all of them fulfil their potential, it could be a very exciting Wimbledon.

vincayou
06-07-2006, 04:58 PM
How can we judge the value of RG2006 before the semi final and the final which are generally the most defining moment of a tournament?

DDrago2
06-07-2006, 05:03 PM
RG has been a bit flat, all things considered, and the dirtballers who did make it here have mostly lost early.

There's the prospect of a good end to the tournament, though.

But I see Wimbledon as being even less competitive, really. Unless Federer the Great suddenly demonstrates enormous frailty on the grass or he falls under a bus on Church Road, I really don't see anyone else winning that title.

I think that Federer is doing a good job in looking more invincible on grass than it is actually the case - similar as with Nadal on clay. Yeah, he is the best with quite a margin, of course, but there are players What do you think about Federe-Ancic match-up, for instance? And maybe there is more - you never know

Monteque
06-07-2006, 05:06 PM
Wimbly always faster and better.

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:08 PM
Wimbly always faster and better.

faster makes for worse tennis. Tie breaks all the time and quick points throughout :zzz:

hitchhiker
06-07-2006, 05:11 PM
very boring slam. it wont get better in semis and final.

nadal will beat bald one
federer will beat nablooblian

we will get all sort of predictions for 48 hours that federer is going to do it this time because Rome was close.

Nadal wins.

crystal clear.

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:14 PM
very boring slam. it wont get better in semis and final.

nadal will beat bald one
federer will beat nablooblian

we will get all sort of predictions for 48 hours that federer is going to do it this time because Rome was close.

Nadal wins.

crystal clear.

I agree that it is likely but... I still see good matches here.

Nalbandian can challenge Federer and whoever wins it will challenge Nadal. It will get better in the semis

Jimnik
06-07-2006, 05:24 PM
The good news is that if Federer reaches the Roland Garros final it will hamper his grass court preparation. After playing a 5-hour final, he might have to withdraw from Halle and then who knows what could happen at Wimbledon?

Monteque
06-07-2006, 05:26 PM
faster makes for worse tennis. Tie breaks all the time and quick points throughout :zzz:
What a scottish :confused: ....wake up dude!!!

Fumus
06-07-2006, 05:32 PM
I love Wimbly, I save up my accurals so I can stay home and watch everydays coverage....lol

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:35 PM
What a scottish :confused: ....wake up dude!!!

Phillipousis getting to a final sums it up.

I do like Wimbledon but i don't think the quality of tennis is as good as on clay

Clara Bow
06-07-2006, 05:36 PM
I canít judge yet, as Wimbledon hasnít started yet. I will agree though that we havenít had that many great matches here so far. Two of my favorite matches were Nadal/Hewitt and Tursunov/Nalbandian on the menís side. I am hoping that Fridayís semis, in particular the Fed/Nalby match will be a real hoot.

One player that I think could cause a real stir at Wimbledon is Dima- at least I hope so. He played well there last year and played better at RG than he did all during the rest of clay court season (which granted, would not be a hard thing to do.) I am just praising Jeebus that he doesnít have to wear that gawdawful blue and green outfit. Also looking forward to seeing Hewitt and Ancic.

I do have to say, that one thing I donít want to see again is Federer and Roddick in the final, Federer beats Roddick. Wash, rinse, repeatÖ.

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:40 PM
I canít judge yet, as Wimbledon hasnít started yet. I will agree though that we havenít had that many great matches here so far. Two of my favorite matches were Nadal/Hewitt and Tursunov/Nalbandian on the menís side. I am hoping that Fridayís semis, in particular the Fed/Nalby match will be a real hoot.

One player that I think could cause a real stir at Wimbledon is Dima- at least I hope so. He played well there last year and played better at RG than he did all during the rest of clay court season (which granted, would not be a hard thing to do.) I am just praising Jeebus that he doesnít have to wear that gawdawful blue and green outfit. Also looking forward to seeing Hewitt and Ancic.

I do have to say, that one thing I donít want to see again is Federer and Roddick in the final, Federer beats Roddick. Wash, rinse, repeatÖ.

YES! GO TURS GO!

Roddick won't get to the final this time.

AgassiDomination
06-07-2006, 05:42 PM
Agassi will be at Wimbledon therefore it will be better.

Monteque
06-07-2006, 05:52 PM
Phillipousis getting to a final sums it up.

I do like Wimbledon but i don't think the quality of tennis is as good as on clay
What kind of quality do you mind...
If referred to players, the quality of grass player is higher than specialist of clay. We can see in one decade that no player indeed dominates on clay. Clay makes the player to be inconsistent. Kuerten i think the best player on clay at least for 10 years from the past but what he have done apart from the French....Gaudio, Ferrero, Moya, and Costa are worse. But you can see the players like Sampras, Fed, or Agassi have done.

Clara Bow
06-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Gaudio, Ferrero, Moya, and Costa are worse.

Gaudio and Costa I will give you. But I fail to see how Moya reaching the Aussie Open final and that JCF reaching the USO finals the same year that he won RG is worse than Gugaís performance in other slams. In fact, I thought JCFís 2003 was darn impressive on both clay and hardcourts.

guille&tati4life
06-07-2006, 05:58 PM
What kind of quality do you mind...
If referred to players, the quality of grass player is higher than specialist of clay. We can see in one decade that no player indeed dominates on clay. Clay makes the player to be inconsistent. Kuerten i think the best player on clay at least for 10 years from the past but what he have done apart from the French....Gaudio, Ferrero, Moya, and Costa are worse. But you can see the players like Sampras, Fed, or Agassi have done.

It is precisely this that makes Roland Garros more interesting. there are many clay court specialists and this makes the tournament more interesting. People like Federer and Sampras struggle more in these tournaments. this makes for closer matches and therefore i think a better tournament. Agassi managed to win roland garros and Federer is now attempting to do the same. At wimbledon however, federer is very likely to win the tournament and it is hard to see any real challenger.

Also, i prefer the style of play on clay as it makes for longer rallies and the serve is not so important

Ferrero's record on other surfaces are also not bad. :p

marti_228
06-07-2006, 07:08 PM
Why aren't there more tournaments on grass???.....Because it's sucks and clay rules!!

Jimnik
06-07-2006, 07:23 PM
Clay is a great surface but it's been a bad year.

Mechlan
06-07-2006, 07:54 PM
Too early to tell. It hasn't been the greatest so far, but if the remaining 3 matches turn out great, watch everyone change their tune to "what a fantastic RG!" ;)

scoobs
06-07-2006, 08:59 PM
It's certainly not been an awful RG - Nadal - Mathieu, Nadal - Hewitt, Nalbandian - Tursunov, couple of others, were great matches - it's been a let-down that the Ferrers, Ferreros, Moyas, Gaudios of this world weren't able to make more of a dent on the draw, and the Corias, Gugas etc weren't even here.

Not sure what the answer is. It's a bit of a lull in terms of great clay court players, with the obvious exception.

star
06-07-2006, 09:03 PM
Although RG ain't over yet, what do you think...

Wimbledon will be even more predictable. :zzz:

Broomie
06-07-2006, 09:32 PM
AO and USO produce the best slams because competition is more open. Clay specialists have been fading this year, that's why RG isn't that good. Even if the SF and finals are great it wouldn't be able to qualify as an amazing RG because of all the boring and uneventful matches. Compared to AOs 05 and 06 and US06, this is a joke.
And I don't think Wimbly will be better for the same reason: too many bad players on the stuff, and too much predictabibility as of now.
Hope I'm wrong. So far the level of excitement is quite the same as a regular TMS, except for a few matches (nalby-tursunov, hewitt-nadal and nadal-phm).

I also hope Dima has a good run at Wimbly to add some spices :)

DrJules
06-07-2006, 10:15 PM
AO and USO produce the best slams because competition is more open. Clay specialists have been fading this year, that's why RG isn't that good. Even if the SF and finals are great it wouldn't be able to qualify as an amazing RG because of all the boring and uneventful matches. Compared to AOs 05 and 06 and US06, this is a joke.
And I don't think Wimbly will be better for the same reason: too many bad players on the stuff, and too much predictabibility as of now.
Hope I'm wrong. So far the level of excitement is quite the same as a regular TMS, except for a few matches (nalby-tursunov, hewitt-nadal and nadal-phm).

I also hope Dima has a good run at Wimbly to add some spices :)

Agree best tennis at US Open (would be better without "stupid saturday") and, particularly, AO. Maybe relates to reliable speed and bounce of ball. It has the advantage of giving attacking and defensive players a chance without strong bias.

DrJules
06-07-2006, 10:27 PM
I think my signature says it all - I am a clay court snob and I hate the grass -it should be kept for cows as someone once famously said. :angel:

Amazing that the game was called "Lawn Tennis" because it was played on grass to distinguish it from "Real Tennis". Grass was the original surface and now has become almost extinct. Surely the diversity of surfaces provides a variety of challenges for player and indicates the flexibility of players. Currently, the tour strongly favours hard court and clay court players while grass and indoor carpet players are at a major disadvantage.

williaer
06-07-2006, 10:45 PM
I'm not really a clay court fan at all, so I'm certainly looking forward to Wimbledon, I think the competition will be fierce and it'll be a good tournament, as it always is.
Also... I get Wimbledon on TV and we didn't get RG!

marti_228
06-07-2006, 11:01 PM
I'm not really a clay court fan at all, so I'm certainly looking forward to Wimbledon, I think the competition will be fierce and it'll be a good tournament, as it always is.
Also... I get Wimbledon on TV and we didn't get RG!


Amazing that you didn't get RG!.....Come on! It's a grand slam.
That shows that tennis is not so important in Austrlia or that they are ignorants.

williaer
06-07-2006, 11:03 PM
Amazing that you didn't get RG!.....Come on! It's a grand slam.
That shows that tennis is not so important in Austrlia or that they are ignorants.
We're not ignorant, but there's so much sport on our TV's at the moment as it is, that they have no room to schedule it in, so they just give it to FoxSports to show. Annoying nonetheless, but I'm excited for Wimbledon!

ys
06-07-2006, 11:06 PM
I hope so.. This RG does not leave much to remember.. Unless last 3 matches provide some excitement.

shotgun
06-08-2006, 12:03 AM
Kuerten i think the best player on clay at least for 10 years from the past but what he have done apart from the French....

A lot of stuff. Check his resume.

ys
06-08-2006, 12:05 AM
A lot of stuff. Check his resume.

Nothing, really.. Not even a semi at another Slam..

shotgun
06-08-2006, 12:09 AM
Nothing, really.. Not even a semi at another Slam..

So 1 TMC title on indoor hard doesn't count? Title at Cincinatti, runner-up at Canada and Indian Wells, 2 QF at US Open, 1 QF at Wimbledon, SF at Paris-Bercy, title at Auckland, St. Petersburg... Of course you cannot compare him to Sampras, but you also cannot compare him to Costa who never won a single title outside clay.

ys
06-08-2006, 12:14 AM
So 1 TMC title on indoor hard doesn't count? Title at Cincinatti, runner-up at Canada and Indian Wells, 2 QF at US Open, 1 QF at Wimbledon, SF at Paris-Bercy, title at Auckland, St. Petersburg...

The only four tournaments where all the best try to give their best are Grand Slams. In all other tourneys people have different agendas.. Some do not take warmups seriously at all and try to peak at Slams, some consider qualiifying for Masters more important than how they actually play over there.. In the list of priorities of all players only 4 tournaments stand tall - Slams. The only thing that I would consider meaningful on his resume, apart from his 3 RGs, is yearend #1 finish. But even then, it was a little revenge from Pete to Marat that allowed that to happen..

shotgun
06-08-2006, 12:16 AM
The only four tournaments where all the best try to give their best are Grand Slams.

Yeah... if you're talking about Russian players.

mr_burns
06-08-2006, 12:17 AM
It doesn't depend on the surface, the matches are important.

Nalbandian and federer will be great, but wimbledon will have some mire tight ones this year I think

fenomeno2111
06-08-2006, 02:09 AM
MMMM...World Cup. Who cares about everything else?

Johnny Groove
06-08-2006, 02:12 AM
eh, Federer will **** the field. World Cup! Go Trinidad and USA! :yeah:

ys
06-08-2006, 02:59 AM
Yeah... if you're talking about Russian players.

I am talking about elite players .. those who leave any legacy in tennis history at all..

bad gambler
06-08-2006, 03:39 AM
I'll ring up Miss Cleo and get back to you

fanancic
06-08-2006, 08:40 AM
I hope it will be a final Roger/Mario!!

BjŲrki
06-08-2006, 08:42 AM
World Cup starts tomorrow :woohoo:

Aleksa's Laydee
06-08-2006, 10:42 AM
Grass Grass Grass

but i do like the fact that the World Cup starts on my birthday :yeah:

BlackSilver
06-08-2006, 11:23 AM
At least at RG we still have Nadal-Federer to look forward to in the finals. What do we have at Wimbledon? Federer versus one of his bitches?

Why such a lack of belief on Nalbandian? On both RG and Wimbledom


At least the RG final will probably be a match and we don't already know the result of it.

Well, if they play on Sunday, I think there are more chances of it don't be a match than to be one .

Monteque
06-08-2006, 12:27 PM
Gaudio and Costa I will give you. But I fail to see how Moya reaching the Aussie Open final and that JCF reaching the USO finals the same year that he won RG is worse than Gugaís performance in other slams. In fact, I thought JCFís 2003 was darn impressive on both clay and hardcourts.

I said and undisputed Guga entirely better than JCF or mOya.
The stats can't lie.

Guga: 3 FO, 1 TMC, 5 Masters, 11 ATP Tour,
JCF : 1 FO, 4 Masters, 6 ATP Tour
Moya: 1 FO, 3 Masters, 15 ATP Tour

I'm not fan of eithers, so i could be more fair.
Well, no offense, JCF is just quite enough on hard, just 3 titles and 2 of them are minor so it's not impressive. He is still 26 so could improve a bit (i hope) though.

oz_boz
06-08-2006, 12:44 PM
I expect a happier ending to Wimbly than to RG. For me. :)

Conita
06-08-2006, 12:58 PM
mmm RG hasnt been that good
but wimbledon looks even more predictable to me!
soo u know ill stick with the world cup
hahaha

im looking foward for andre's return tho

however the us open always looks awsome

Neely
06-08-2006, 01:00 PM
Well, Wimbledon is the grasscourt Grand Slam and therefore a clear option #1 choice for me.