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Federer def. Ancic 6-4, 6-3, 6-4

Billabong
06-06-2006, 03:57 PM
Very impressive Federer, almost perfect performance again;)! The only blip: the break point conversion :help: But just like against Berdych, he was down in a set and fought back to take 5 games in a row;)! Keep it up Fed:dance:

AgassiDomination
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
So much for that 6-6-6 thing.

LLeytonRules
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
He gets 2 days off and likely will face Nalbandian.I thought Ancic played ok but not enough to take out Roger.

Uriel
06-06-2006, 03:59 PM
too bad Mario was too tired to give his best.... good luck to fed

bokehlicious
06-06-2006, 03:59 PM
Well done Roger. As he said, the ranking points here are already defended, so now it's only bonus :) Keep it up !

AsianSensation
06-06-2006, 04:00 PM
:yeah: nice win Rogi!

almouchie
06-06-2006, 04:01 PM
Federer fought off a courageous effort from Ancic in the first set & won 6/4
at 3-2 serving Ancic was tired down & out, yet he battled still
lost 6/3
& managed to stay on court when he was visibly spent,
Federer wins 6/4 6/3 6/4 in over 2 hours
Ancic won himself many admirers, refused to give up & played on. great effort

Federer will play the winner of Nalbandian vs. Davydenko

Sandra
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
And I cut school to see Ancic losing like that. :sad: :sad:

Johnny Groove
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
So much for that 6-6-6 thing.

he did win 6 games in each set though :yeah:

Monteque
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
:cool: performance for Fed
Congrats and hope you'll beat Nalby/Davy in semi

Billabong
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
But 2 huge matches might be coming up, against 2 nemesis;)

Apemant
06-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Very impressive Federer, almost perfect performance again;)! The only blip: the break point conversion :help: But just like against Berdych, he was down in a set and fought back to take 5 games in a row;)! Keep it up Fed:dance:

Expected... if Mario even took a set it would not bode very well for a clash with Nalbo (seems he is in the winning mood against Davy :devil: ), let alone Nadal. Anyway, all fairy tales come to an end, Mario's own finished at the hands of Fedex, which isn't that much of a disgrace. Could have been worse. :angel:

RonE
06-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Only 2 more to go!!!

Hopp rogi :bounce:

vincayou
06-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Nadal and Nalbandian are the only ones able to beat him regularly these days. And they are the probably the last on the road of his first French open. The real challenge begins for him, he has done the minimum he had to do.

rofe
06-06-2006, 04:06 PM
:yeah: Fed did enough when he needed to. I assume that Nalby will be in the semis unless he has a brain cramp. It is going to be a much tougher match so he better be prepared.

croat123
06-06-2006, 04:07 PM
ugh. mario way too tired to put up a decent fight. great tournament for him though :bounce: get your revenge on the grass :bounce::devil:

DDrago2
06-06-2006, 04:08 PM
First Nalbandian, then Nadal for Roger now...

But as I said, I think he can't do it. He will probably loose his SF.

scarecrows
06-06-2006, 04:09 PM
Ancic was clearly not at 100% but but very good overall performance from Federer, and great comeback in the 2nd

now let's hope that Davydenko-Nalbandian go 12-10 in the final set :devil:

Corey Feldman
06-06-2006, 04:10 PM
another one down..
2 matches from tennis immortality

Allez
06-06-2006, 04:11 PM
I actually did not think Fed played all that well. He had so many break points but was just too passive on most of them. He did just enough to win against an obviously ailing opponent. I hope he can pick up his level against Nalbandian because that's going to be a 5 setter for sure.

MariaV
06-06-2006, 04:13 PM
Did any of you get, was Mario dizzy or had a headache or something, what was he talking with the doc at 3-2 in the 3rd set? Poor baby! :hug: :hug:
Mario fought very bravely and got a decent scoreline even. :) He clearly wasn't 100% and he needs rest before grass court season.

MariaV
06-06-2006, 04:14 PM
Btw, Mario's BP conversion was 1/9 so he could've done better too but Fed has too much experience on important points.

Allez
06-06-2006, 04:16 PM
Btw, Mario's BP conversion was 1/9 so he could've done better too but Fed has too much experience on important points.
But what was Roger's conversion rate ?

goran_the_2nd
06-06-2006, 04:17 PM
well.. mario was just as good as fed first two sets. few net chords and lines decided winner of those sets. after that mario just wasnt the same.. he couldnt move as good as before, and he had also some medical(?) problems... so i suppose he wouldnt win that match even if he did have 2-0 in sets. pitty. anyway, i cant wait for wimbledon... mario in current form definitly has a big chance against fedex ;)

sonia
06-06-2006, 04:18 PM
Roger :yeah:

Mario :hug:

mangoes
06-06-2006, 04:18 PM
I think Roger did not come out to exert energy. He came out to play at the level needed to beat Mario....................... Roger needs to conserve energy for Nalbandian and Nadal.

Congrats to Ancic on a fantastic clay season :D Now onto grass.....

Yergeht Fladnag
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
I actually did not think Fed played all that well. He had so many break points but was just too passive on most of them. He did just enough to win against an obviously ailing opponent.
Mario BP conversion was even worse - 1/9

0-40 on Fed's serve in the second set for double break was his best chance to win at least one set. But FedBot managed to set itself to higher level and won next 5 games... :worship:

bokehlicious
06-06-2006, 04:23 PM
well.. mario was just as good as fed first two sets. few net chords and lines decided winner of those sets. after that mario just wasnt the same.. he couldnt move as good as before, and he had also some medical(?) problems... so i suppose he wouldnt win that match even if he did have 2-0 in sets. pitty. anyway, i cant wait for wimbledon... mario in current form definitly has a big chance against fedex ;)

Do you mean that luck decided who won the 2 first sets ? :lol:

Yergeht Fladnag
06-06-2006, 04:24 PM
Btw, Mario's BP conversion was 1/9 so he could've done better too but Fed has too much experience on important points.
Obviously I'm too slow... :o ;) :wavey:

rofe
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Do you mean that luck decided who won the 2 first sets ? :lol:

I guess that is true anytime Fed wins a tight set. :rolleyes:

croat123
06-06-2006, 04:35 PM
Do you mean that luck decided who won the 2 first sets ? :lol:
it decided the set point in the first set. fed misshit two balls, both hit the line. then mario's forehand clipped the tape and it went wide

mangoes
06-06-2006, 04:38 PM
I guess that is true anytime Fed wins a tight set. :rolleyes:


Yes, Roger bribed the nets and lines with swiss cheese ;) :p

MariaV
06-06-2006, 04:38 PM
But what was Roger's conversion rate ?
4 of 18 = 22 %, so much better than 1 of 9 = 11 % from Mario. ;)

Corey Feldman
06-06-2006, 04:40 PM
:lol: @ you croats when a croat is defeated
here comes the 'luck' theories
shit happens
the best player won, and easily..
and if they meet at Wimbledon, it would be even more of a beating :p

oneandonlyhsn
06-06-2006, 04:48 PM
Well done Rogi :yeah: he played the bigpoints very well. And Mario was very impressivwe when he was facing BP.

Bopth players had lucky breaks, but whatever.

Marine
06-06-2006, 04:50 PM
:woohoo:

Allez Roger !!!

MariaV
06-06-2006, 04:53 PM
:lol: @ you croats when a croat is defeated
here comes the 'luck' theories
shit happens
the best player won, and easily..
and if they meet at Wimbledon, it would be even more of a beating :p
I'm not a Croat of course but I don't see much of a 'luck' theories here. :o Of course shit happens. :lol:
In the Wimbledon final Mario will beat the cr@p out of evil Roger. ;)
I am just kidding so... :p

Corey Feldman
06-06-2006, 04:56 PM
Mario might go down in 3 sets to the great F.Lopez on grass, again
:o :o

MariaV
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Mario might go down in 3 sets to the great F.Lopez on grass, again
:o :o
First Mario needs to get his back and shoulder better.

Corey Feldman
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
wouldnt it be typical if ancic/ljubo reach q.f RG then lose early on grass at wimbledon :lol:

R.Federer
06-06-2006, 04:59 PM
it decided the set point in the first set. fed misshit two balls, both hit the line. then mario's forehand clipped the tape and it went wide
before that, mario's volley would have gone wide and given Roger 0-40, but the net kept it in, made it 15-30 and mario held for 4-all or Roger could have won the first 6-3
so the net cords helped both and luck was not only on Roge's side

mangoes
06-06-2006, 05:01 PM
Mario might go down in 3 sets to the great F.Lopez on grass, again
:o :o


Sad thing is that I wouldn't be shocked..........

LLeytonRules
06-06-2006, 05:07 PM
Roger doesnt need to conserve energy, he will play his semis on friday, i expect him to play real well vs Nalbandian.He is ready for these matches now.

Golfnduck
06-06-2006, 05:13 PM
I thought Mario would win the 2nd set when he was up 2-0 and pushing Roger. But good showing from Mario this tournament :yeah:

bandabou
06-06-2006, 05:27 PM
Man, man....Nadal sure can't complain about draws these days, he gets a djokovic then a ljubicic who doesn't like clay..whereas Roger now had to battle Ancic, then has to get through Nalbandian (still a nemesis) and then his ubber-nemesis Nadal. Same as it was at Roma. Anyways good luck Rog. I think you're gonna need it!!

nobama
06-06-2006, 05:43 PM
I actually did not think Fed played all that well. He had so many break points but was just too passive on most of them. He did just enough to win against an obviously ailing opponent. I hope he can pick up his level against Nalbandian because that's going to be a 5 setter for sure.Well nothing is for sure :rolleyes: and maybe Roger did what he had to to win or maybe he was having an off day and Mario was just too wiped out from his previous matches to really put up a fight. Whatever, it was a straight sets victory, can't bitch about that.

nobama
06-06-2006, 05:45 PM
Nadal and Nalbandian are the only ones able to beat him regularly these days. And they are the probably the last on the road of his first French open. The real challenge begins for him, he has done the minimum he had to do.Nalbandian doesn't beat Roger on a regular basis. He didn't beat him at the US Open last year nor in Rome this year (though that match was a lot closer).

*Ljubica*
06-06-2006, 05:47 PM
Poor Mario - poor little soul was so tired bless him :hug: It was a great RG for him though, and he should go away with his head held high and all the Croat fans should be proud of him. As for Roger - he did what he had to do - now he needs to raise his game and concentrate to win this damn title. Come On Roger :banana:

Guybrush
06-06-2006, 06:04 PM
Very good tennis showed by Mario, but again INCREDIBLE tennis from Rogi. Congratulations to him and good luck in the remaining matches. I hope he will finally win RG. He really deserve it! :yeah:

connectolove
06-06-2006, 06:22 PM
Ancic was a little bit pathetic...

oneandonlyhsn
06-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Ancic was a little bit pathetic...

:scratch: Were we watching the same match, he played great the 1st 2 sets but he didnt have very much left in the tank in the 3rd. Thats far from what I'd call pathetic.

DrJules
06-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Ancic did well considering his 5 set match against Tommy. He must have been playing on empty today.

scoobs
06-06-2006, 06:31 PM
Ancic did very well to make it as competitive as he did, considering how clearly exhausted he was - his shoulders just slumped midway through that second set. He had a brief attack of second wind in the third but really was delaying the inevitable.

Bless him - he's had a great tourney but a hard road to get that far and just didn't have enough reserves to go further.

Learning how to pace yourself over a Slam is something quite a lot of players never learn to master - often due to lack of practise - but I hope Mario can and will learn this in future because he's a great player with a much more rounded and impressive game now, and all this choking rubbish seems to me to have been put to bed well and truly.

Roger didn't play what I would call a great match - he did enough to get through reasonably comfortably, 3 sets, no muss, no fuss, not too long...exactly what he needed because his (hopefully) last two matches will require all his reserves.

nobama
06-06-2006, 06:32 PM
Ancic was a little bit pathetic...Why because Roger won in straights? :rolleyes:

musefanatic
06-06-2006, 06:46 PM
Great win for roger, thought he was tested in the first set and in the 2nd until he got the break back from Ancic and it was all downhill from there for 'super mario'. He looked so knackered though but it's not as if he'd played a lot of five setters like Monfils had. Good luck to Fed against Nalby :)

scoobs
06-06-2006, 06:58 PM
One glaring criticism of Feds in this match:

Number of break point conversions

I think it ended up at about 20% with is pretty pathetic. He had about 20 in the match.

Okay I know Federer is rarely Mr "One bite at the cherry" but tougher opponents won't give him so many chances - he needs to take more of them when they're there. Ancic saved a number of them with good serves but not enough to explain that stat.

One area he does need to work on a bit.

mandoura
06-06-2006, 07:01 PM
:banana: Rogelio

:hug: Super Mario

rofe
06-06-2006, 07:05 PM
One glaring criticism of Feds in this match:

Number of break point conversions

I think it ended up at about 20% with is pretty pathetic. He had about 20 in the match.

Okay I know Federer is rarely Mr "One bite at the cherry" but tougher opponents won't give him so many chances - he needs to take more of them when they're there. Ancic saved a number of them with good serves but not enough to explain that stat.

One area he does need to work on a bit.

Unfortunately, I doubt he will work on it. His break point conversion record has always been abysmal (from before he became a champion). It doesn't seem to have a bearing on any result not involving Nadal. I am sure he would like to improve it but the conversion rate is partly under the opponent's control as well.

So, the two negative things you can be sure of in a match involving Roger:

1) His well known dips in concentration after an easy set
2) His BP conversion.

Quite frankly, neither bother me anymore because the positives far outweigh the negatives. :)

scoobs
06-06-2006, 07:10 PM
Unfortunately, I doubt he will work on it. His break point conversion record has always been abysmal (from before he became a champion). It doesn't seem to have a bearing on any result not involving Nadal. I am sure he would like to improve it but the conversion rate is partly under the opponent's control as well.

So, the two negative things you can be sure of in a match involving Roger:

1) His well known dips in concentration after an easy set
2) His BP conversion.

Quite frankly, neither bother me anymore because the positives far outweigh the negatives. :)
I would add to that a third - when he gets in a tight fifth set, trouble usually ensues.

But you're right - the positives do far outweigh the negatives. There are far worse flaws in a player.

Allez
06-06-2006, 07:26 PM
Unfortunately, I doubt he will work on it. His break point conversion record has always been abysmal (from before he became a champion). It doesn't seem to have a bearing on any result not involving Nadal. I am sure he would like to improve it but the conversion rate is partly under the opponent's control as well.

So, the two negative things you can be sure of in a match involving Roger:

1) His well known dips in concentration after an easy set
2) His BP conversion.

Quite frankly, neither bother me anymore because the positives far outweigh the negatives. :)

Also
3) His minimal use of the drop shot. Rafael Nadal uses it to a devastating effect on clay (the one against Hewitt was sooo sweet) where players tend to stand way behind the baseline. Whilst Mario likes to come to the net (his natural game), he was also staying back a lot in this match and against someone in his condition (and size!) the drop shot would have been a killer. Also Fed should have used the slice backhand more to force the big man to bend those skinny knees of his.

rofe
06-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Also
3) His minimal use of the drop shot. Rafael Nadal uses it to a devastating effect on clay (the one against Hewitt was sooo sweet) where players tend to stand way behind the baseline. Whilst Mario likes to come to the net (his natural game), he was also staying back a lot in this match and against someone in his condition (and size!) the drop shot would have been a killer. Also Fed should have used the slice backhand more to force the big man to bend those skinny knees of his.

The drop shot is not that easy to learn and Fed is trying to learn it so I don't count it as a negative.

The slice backhand is ineffective on clay where it just sits up waiting to be put away. Its only use is to vary the pace of the stroke exchange. In fact, Fed has been able to reduce its use on clay which is quite impressive since that is one of his most comfortable shots.

naughty_sprite
06-06-2006, 07:51 PM
I thought ancic was gonna beats feds when I was first watching this

Rogiman
06-06-2006, 10:15 PM
Nalbandian doesn't beat Roger on a regular basis. He didn't beat him at the US Open last year nor in Rome this year (though that match was a lot closer).
Everyone likes to point out that Nalbandian is 6:5 vs. Federer, but choose to ignore the fact that Roger won 5 of the last 6...

anserq
06-06-2006, 10:25 PM
Oh he's just so good.

goran_the_2nd
06-07-2006, 01:21 AM
funny how fedex "ass kissers" jump all over us (or me?) just cuz we said that ancic could have won any of first two sets, and that fed had luck with lines and net chords ;) even willander on eurosport saw (and said) that. its not like i've said ancic could have won this match if he had all the luck (i'm pretty sure he couldnt). even if he had 2-0 lead. but he was just as good as fed was for first two sets. and that was what fed said after the match. also, just to mention, ancic said that he felt dizzynes in third.. also that he didnt saw the ball soon enough in third so he hit "literaly first out of five balls that were coming in his way" :)) that pretty much says everything about the (one and only) way this match had/could_have gone. and thats - fed's way. by the way... i would also like to say that fed isnt in his best form right now, and if he wont be in it when the finals come he will get his ass kicked by nadal easily :) and also after what we saw from ancic over the last month, we could be heading to one hell of a wimbledon finale :)
have fun.

Monteque
06-07-2006, 01:50 AM
funny how fedex "ass kissers" jump all over us (or me?) just cuz we said that ancic could have won any of first two sets, and that fed had luck with lines and net chords ;) even willander on eurosport saw (and said) that. its not like i've said ancic could have won this match if he had all the luck (i'm pretty sure he couldnt). even if he had 2-0 lead. but he was just as good as fed was for first two sets. and that was what fed said after the match. also, just to mention, ancic said that he felt dizzynes in third.. also that he didnt saw the ball soon enough in third so he hit "literaly first out of five balls that were coming in his way" :)) that pretty much says everything about the (one and only) way this match had/could_have gone. and thats - fed's way. by the way... i would also like to say that fed isnt in his best form right now, and if he wont be in it when the finals come he will get his ass kicked by nadal easily :) and also after what we saw from ancic over the last month, we could be heading to one hell of a wimbledon finale :)
have fun.

I'm just didn't fun read your post. Hard to read.
At least capitalize those....

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-07-2006, 09:40 AM
As expected,but Mario did a good job overall in RG! :D

Santana
06-07-2006, 11:16 AM
Ancic was a little bit pathetic...


frustrations....
maybe because he kicked robredo, so frustrations and sadness....
you poor guy...