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Brad Gilbert gives Djokovic the kiss of death

NYCtennisfan
06-05-2006, 03:09 PM
He was talking about how Djokovic is the only player left on the bottom half of the draw who has any shot at taking out Nadal.

But seriously, if Nadal continues to allow people to take the ball early against him by hitting with average depth, Djokovic has a shot to really test him. I don't think he is ready for the big win yet, but if his strokes are on like they were in the first two sets against Haas or Gonzo, Nadal will have a LOT of problems.

In today's match against Hewitt, Hewitt was very successful pushing Nadal out wide with the BH CC taken early, but then didn't have enough on the FH to put him away because of Rafa's incredible defensive ability. Djokovic would be different as he DOES have the FH and BH to do the job. His serve will also allow him to set up some points, i.e. his serve out wide in the deuce court has been effective so far so a serve out wide, inside out FH or FH dtl combo will be the plan.

He first has to beat Monfils but that looks almost like a certainty right now. If the big moment doesn't rattle him, Nadal vs Djokovic could be one hell of a QF.

Deivid23
06-05-2006, 03:15 PM
First of all, Djokovic-Monfils is far from being over. And concerning the topic, Djokovic has the weapons to make a match out of an hypothetical encounter against Nadal, but he hasnīt got neither the consistency to execute his game throughout 5 sets at an optimum level nor the stamina to back this up. Therefore Nadal wonīt have a lot of problems with Nole, I foresee another 3-1 win for Nadal (and Iīm being generous as much as I like Nole) if this match occurs the day after tomorrow. Go get a clue about the players, dude :retard:

Castafiore
06-05-2006, 03:20 PM
In my opinion, one of the reasons why Hewitt gives Rafa such a hard time on the court is that he's patient and usually very consistent. Not a lot of players can be patient against Rafa, point for point, during an entire match.

In all honesty, I haven't seen enough of Djokovic to assess his chances against Rafa.

NYCtennisfan
06-05-2006, 03:23 PM
First of all, Djokovic-Monfils is far from being over. And concerning the topic, Djokovic has the weapons to make a match out of an hypothetical encounter against Nadal, but he hasnīt got neither the consistency to execute his game throughout 5 sets at an optimum level nor the stamina to back this up. Therefore Nadal wonīt have a lot of problems with Nole, I foresee another 3-1 win for Nadal (and Iīm being generous as much as I like Nole) if this match occurs the day after tomorrow. Go get a clue about the players, dude :retard:

Of course the most likely result is Nadal wearing him down and Djokoivc not being up for the big occasion. I didn't say otherwise. However, Djokovic does have the game to bother Nadal on clay which can't be said about too many players on the tour.

Looks like Monfils awoke from the dead and is playing well again. Looks like a TB.

CooCooCachoo
06-05-2006, 03:29 PM
First of all, Djokovic-Monfils is far from being over. And concerning the topic, Djokovic has the weapons to make a match out of an hypothetical encounter against Nadal, but he hasnīt got neither the consistency to execute his game throughout 5 sets at an optimum level nor the stamina to back this up. Therefore Nadal wonīt have a lot of problems with Nole, I foresee another 3-1 win for Nadal (and Iīm being generous as much as I like Nole) if this match occurs the day after tomorrow. Go get a clue about the players, dude :retard:

As much as I agree with you, there is no need to be so rude :rolleyes:

Deivid23
06-05-2006, 03:29 PM
Of course the most likely result is Nadal wearing him down and Djokoivc not being up for the big occasion. I didn't say otherwise. However, Djokovic does have the game to bother Nadal on clay which can't be said about too many players on the tour.

Looks like Monfils awoke from the dead and is playing well again. Looks like a TB.

Disagree, having the game itīs not enough to say one can put his rival into a LOT of problems, consistency and stamina also count a decisive role and Nole is weak in these departments despite having loads of talent. I can name a lot of players that have the weapons (game) to beat Nadal on clay but you wonīt find more than a few with a realistic chance at defeating him in a best-of-five format, and no, I donīt think Nole is one of them atm.

Deivid23
06-05-2006, 03:30 PM
As much as I agree with you, there is no need to be so rude :rolleyes:

I like stirring the pot at smartasses, nothing serious ;)

vincayou
06-05-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm not sure. Novak is brillant but goes wild too often especially when he has to finish the point easily. That's the case right now against Monfils.
And against Nadal, he will often have to finish the point.

ExpectedWinner
06-05-2006, 04:16 PM
And concerning the topic, Djokovic has the weapons to make a match out of an hypothetical encounter against Nadal, but he hasnīt got neither the consistency to execute his game throughout 5 sets at an optimum level nor the stamina to back this up.

If ND had all that, we'd have called him a contender for the title, not a potential Nadal "tester" for 1-11/2 sets.

sanpo
06-05-2006, 04:19 PM
Djokovic is through. Let's see what happens.. I hope something comes up. I'd want Nadal to lose to Djokovic because I enjoy seeing him play and think he has enough chances and weapons against Nadal (though highly impossible). But it would waste a Nadal-Fed blockbuster final.

zicofirol
06-05-2006, 04:20 PM
Djokovic needs to get to the net more, he had Monflis out wide alot of times where monflis just blocked it back for an easy volley, but Djokovic stayed back and the piont kept going for 2 or 3 more shots against Nadal he will lose those points.

vincayou
06-05-2006, 04:24 PM
Djokovic needs to get to the net more, he had Monflis out wide alot of times where monflis just blocked it back for an easy volley, but Djokovic stayed back and the piont kept going for 2 or 3 more shots against Nadal he will lose those points.

He won few points at the net, 2/12 or something like that. He missed several easy volley, and his dropshot were awful. He really must improve that, don't know if he's better usually, but his game around the net was not very impressive today.

Deivid23
06-05-2006, 04:24 PM
If ND had all that, we'd have called him a contender for the title, not a potential Nadal "tester" for 1-11/2 sets.

I know, Iīm well aware of Noleīs potential (and weaknesses) long time ago, surely longer ago than the majority of posters here, thanks ;)

ezekiel
06-05-2006, 04:28 PM
now that Gael match was finnished, I can chime in. Novak has a game to challenge the king of clay , his flat shots will give Rafa plenty of trouble to run down but the main question is fitness and endurance for him. He has a good 2 days of rest as he looked a bit tired today . Rafa is a favourite and I won't mind him if he continues his run and it should be a very challenging and exciting match

Allez
06-05-2006, 05:00 PM
If anyone has a shot it's Novak, but only if Rafa is severely injured or has a bad banana shoved up his throat. Gilbert is nothing if not amusing. :rolleyes:

dylan24
06-05-2006, 05:00 PM
brad gilbert's predictions are always pathetic.
if he bet on tennis, he'd go broke.

DDrago2
06-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Unfotunately, the most possible outcome of this match is Djokovic retiring because of exaustion, or at least not being able to give his all after the first three sets.

Freeze17171
06-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Ahh, his "best" comment so far was before the Martin/Roddick match where he said Roddick would roll in straight sets and that a 60% Roddick should make it to the 2nd week of RG and he would hopefully be closer to 100% by then. Even Chris Fowler looked at him and made a comment questioning his sanity.

Merton
06-05-2006, 07:45 PM
Consistency is the key word for Nole, but experience is very important as well. In some cases lack of experience can actually be an advantage, like for Marcos at the AO. Not so in this match. The old and treacherous opponent provides a big challenge for the young prince of Danimarkia... but i am getting carried away. Djokovic has greater chances than Monfils would but Rafa should win anyway.

DrJules
06-05-2006, 07:54 PM
Novak may have more talent and more shots, but he will not penetrate the wall. Nadal has unlimited energy and seems to be capable of running for hours chasing balls and returning them.

Action Jackson
06-06-2006, 06:09 AM
Gilbert stop picking these players will you. He is a jinx and when the guy said Acasuso had a weak serve, this is when he doesn't deserve to be taken too seriously.

Jairus
06-06-2006, 09:33 AM
Go get a clue about the players, dude :retard:

:lol: at accusing NYC like that. Next he'll be forced to take hemlock to leave the world of moralizing MTFers who declare him to be a corrupting force to our children.

About the thread (and going on with the Greek trend) Djokovic, like others before him, will be mericlessly sacrificed to the tennis Gods in the hopes of the ultimate reward. Nothing against him, but he is simply another pawn along the way to the uber-final of Fed/Rafa.

Ignore me, I'm being :silly:

Deivid23
06-06-2006, 09:39 AM
:lol: at accusing NYC like that. Next he'll be forced to take hemlock to leave the world of moralizing MTFers who declare him to be a corrupting force to our children.



When I see a wrong analysis to my eyes I write my opinion. Last time it was about Almagroīs backhand, now about Nole, thatīs the reason to my last sentence, you shouldnīt make those statements when you donīt know well these guys ;)