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Why is Nadal hated, anyways?

dmit424
06-04-2006, 10:27 AM
I don't really care for Nadal and Federer. Yeah, they're clearly the best players (okay, Nalbandian, you are good too little guy) but I just don't cheer for them (unless they are playing Roddick. Duh.) But my question is why do people HATE on Nadal? I don't care for him, but no adverse feelings.

Humble guy, very emotionally charged on the court, very good game... Sure, his "antics" can get kind of annoying, but it's obvious (in my opinion) that he never does it to tick off an opponent. Sure, he's just weird with his pants, awkward facial hair, and crazy sprint-outs, but you can't HATE him for that... And then, the man constantly has to retrieve his shorts from the dark depths of his a$$-crack, but he has no choice. I bet if he played without doing this, his pants would very awkwardly twist and ripple into his a$$, and people would make even MORE fun of him. You can't hate on the capri pants. So why is he hated?

I mean, he's just weird. Other youngsters tick me off much more and for good reasons, like Gasquet retiring from a match just because he was frustrated (a while ago, yeah, but he still mails it in sometimes) and Murray being a complete lazy a$$. Dude probably can't run a 20-minute 5k, which is kind of ridiculous for a pro tennis player.

vincayou
06-04-2006, 10:37 AM
because he's very successful.

That's enough for some.

And because he's lacking in the artistry department. Brazil football team, despite being very successful has very few haters.

dmit424
06-04-2006, 10:38 AM
because he's very successful.


I can understand that, at least.

jenanun
06-04-2006, 10:41 AM
imagine you are not a nadal fan... how can you not hate him during a clay season?????

Action Jackson
06-04-2006, 10:42 AM
It's a good question.

Personally I don't have a problem with him, yes I can see how the antics would annoy some people.

For some they hate his game and that it's not aesthetically pleasing in their eyes, but it takes all kinds and it's effective.

Another flaming session will happen.

A_Skywalker
06-04-2006, 10:42 AM
Good players are always loved and hated , loved form their fans and hated from the fans of the other players , it is that way , there are just people that just choose to hate someone , because he beats thir favourite , it is stupid ..

dmit424
06-04-2006, 10:46 AM
imagine you are not a nadal fan... how can you not hate him during a clay season?????

I am a far cry for a Nadal fan. I get absolutely no joy from him winning a match (unless it was to be over Roddick). But I don't feel any joy when he is defeated, either. He has a nice streak going, and he's humble. That's cool. I feel about the same when it comes to Federer.

And come Monday, I will be cheering all out for my man Hewitt. Hopefully Lleyton will allow me to cheer at least 3 hours before I :crying2:

hitchhiker
06-04-2006, 11:17 AM
Brazil football team, despite being very successful has very few haters.

and everyone except the fans hate germany despite them being traditionally almost as succesful as brazil

betterthanhenman
06-04-2006, 11:40 AM
I dont understand anyone hating Nadal or Federer.

Actually I do. You have to be slightly pathetic and obsessed with one to hate the other I think. If not, you can recognise them as truly great players, without whom the tour would be much worse off.

Castafiore
06-04-2006, 12:10 PM
You have to be slightly pathetic and obsessed with one to hate the other I think. If not, youy can recognise them as truly great players, without whom the tour would be much worse off.
Yes, I tend to agree with this.

Personally, it's much easier for me to watch tennis if I just sit back, relax and enjoy the tennis instead of obsessing over one player and hating every other player who can potentially be a huge threat to him.
Sure, I can get quite passionate when I watch tennis but I can't say that hatred or even dislike is an emotion that's in the mix.

Federer, well I find it very hard to believe that anybody who really loves tennis would hate that guy. His personality may not be everybody's taste but purely analysing him on his tennis, how can you hate or dislike that guy? I remember when he first started to dominate - I tend to find domination boring in sports (I'm a Schumi fan and his very dominant season a few years back was utterly boring for me, I prefer it when he has some serious competition) - I found him a bit boring to watch (I usually prefer sports people who show a bit more fire) but I decided to sit down and pay close attention to some of his matches and...well, it's beyond me how you can dislike him as a tennis player.

Nadal, the word 'elegance' is not really a word that first pops into your head when you watch him (like with Federer) but does that really have to be? Some of the shots he pulls of are just as artistic to me, quite frankly, but in a very different way than with Federer. This man is 100% pure emotion on the court and very exciting to watch + he seems to have a great personality. How can you hate or dislike that guy?

If the two have to play against each other, my support clearly goes to Nadal but I'm not sitting here going all :mad: towards Federer.



But what I find truly pathetic (let me just borrow bad gambler's word here ;) ) is that many posters here really find the most silly reasons to justify their unreasonable hatred/dislike towards one player and what's even more pathetic is that they actually seem convinced of the validity of these silly reasons (they're just nitpicking to justify their own unreasonable hatred IMO).

Frederick16
06-04-2006, 12:15 PM
and everyone except the fans hate germany despite them being traditionally almost as succesful as brazil

the last years since 1996 it is disaster! where have you been watching football???

*Ljubica*
06-04-2006, 12:16 PM
I don't hate Nadal - but I admit I don't like him - the antics drive me crazy - too much fist pumping, and shouting and in-your-face stuff - which is exactly the same reason I don't like Hewitt. I prefer a quieter personality like Federer - though I wouldn't say Federer is my favourite player either!

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 01:23 PM
Hi hi hi some people still believe that Nadal is a modest person I bet he keeps his own picture hanging in his bedroom

Nadal's antics are the worst ever seen in tennis and his behaviour is absolutely agressive. But he knows to hide it Unlike other "bad guys", Nadal knows to pretend that he is not and that is exactly what makes him so irritating.

There is no end to the string of irritating details about him. For example, the newest detail is constant coaching that he gets throughout every tough match he plays

Shame

Sam L (WTAW)
06-04-2006, 01:39 PM
I don't hate him. I just think he's very overrated. He's also a specialist and can only really play on one surface. I just think that this is wrong. Players shouldn't be like this. He took the rest of last year off after winning Roland Garros. What's up with that?

star
06-04-2006, 01:41 PM
Hi hi hi some people still believe that Nadal is a modest person I bet he keeps his own picture hanging in his bedroom

Nadal's antics are the worst ever seen in tennis and his behaviour is absolutely agressive. But he knows to hide it Unlike other "bad guys", Nadal knows to pretend that he is not and that is exactly what makes him so irritating.

There is no end to the string of irritating details about him. For example, the newest detail is constant coaching that he gets throughout every tough match he plays

Shame

I'd say this post perfectly illustrates Castafiore's point. :)

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 01:43 PM
RIght on the point, Sam L

I am going to give you an answer to your "What's up" question: he took a rest because he wants to have his kingdom where he never looses. And that kingdom is clay. He doesn't care for other surfaces, because he doesn't like to play and compete, but only to win. Means are not important.

Washa Koroleva
06-04-2006, 01:43 PM
Maybe because he's different though this is what makes more people like him.

kittysweet
06-04-2006, 01:44 PM
well actually he beat jesusfed twice on hard, he can clearly play indoors aswell and soon enough he'll be close to jesusfed on grass just like j-fed is closing up on him on clay
viva nadal :angel:

betterthanhenman
06-04-2006, 01:45 PM
RIght on the point, Sam L

I am going to give you an answer to your "What's up" question: he took a rest because he wants to have his kingdom where he never looses. And that kingdom is clay. He doesn't care for other surfaces, because he doesn't like to play and compete, but only to win. Means are not important.

I can't emphasise this enough...

:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

bad gambler
06-04-2006, 01:47 PM
I don't hate him. I just think he's very overrated. He's also a specialist and can only really play on one surface. I just think that this is wrong. Players shouldn't be like this. He took the rest of last year off after winning Roland Garros. What's up with that?


good grief... can someone bookmark this post, a sure nomination for the post of the year

Washa Koroleva
06-04-2006, 01:48 PM
Haha that was a bit over the edge.

rofe
06-04-2006, 01:50 PM
How can you hate someone you don't know? :confused:

I doubt anyone here can logically "hate" or even dislike Nadal unless they know him as a person.

I am pretty much ambivalent towards him as a person just like I am to Federer.

His style of play however leaves a lot to be desired...

federated
06-04-2006, 01:51 PM
Yes, I tend to agree with this.

Personally, it's much easier for me to watch tennis if I just sit back, relax and enjoy the tennis instead of obsessing over one player and hating every other player who can potentially be a huge threat to him.
Sure, I can get quite passionate when I watch tennis but I can't say that hatred or even dislike is an emotion that's in the mix.

Federer, well I find it very hard to believe that anybody who really loves tennis would hate that guy. His personality may not be everybody's taste but purely analysing him on his tennis, how can you hate or dislike that guy? I remember when he first started to dominate - I tend to find domination boring in sports (I'm a Schumi fan and his very dominant season a few years back was utterly boring for me, I prefer it when he has some serious competition) - I found him a bit boring to watch (I usually prefer sports people who show a bit more fire) but I decided to sit down and pay close attention to some of his matches and...well, it's beyond me how you can dislike him as a tennis player.

Nadal, the word 'elegance' is not really a word that first pops into your head when you watch him (like with Federer) but does that really have to be? Some of the shots he pulls of are just as artistic to me, quite frankly, but in a very different way than with Federer. This man is 100% pure emotion on the court and very exciting to watch + he seems to have a great personality. How can you hate or dislike that guy?

If the two have to play against each other, my support clearly goes to Nadal but I'm not sitting here going all :mad: towards Federer.



But what I find truly pathetic (let me just borrow bad gambler's word here ;) ) is that many posters here really find the most silly reasons to justify their unreasonable hatred/dislike towards one player and what's even more pathetic is that they actually seem convinced of the validity of these silly reasons (they're just nitpicking to justify their own unreasonable hatred IMO).

I'm completely with you. I adore both Nadal and Federer and think they are both artists in their own way. And both are such humble, but steely competitors. How boring things would be without Nadal's energy, crazy pants and wedgies. And how privileged are we to be able to wach Federer's mastery of the game. I agree with Laver and McEnroe: Roger is the most complete tennis player ever.

Seems pretty silly to hate on a 20 year old kid who's obviously been very well brought up and seems destined to be one of the greats. Gotta be jealousy or gambling addiction or drooling fangirl/boy syndrome. Come on folks, hate on someone that deserves it, like racquet toss Kiefer :angel: .

ps. How is Nadal's forehand not a thing of beauty? I want to shout OLE!whenever he hits it.

*Ljubica*
06-04-2006, 01:51 PM
good grief... can someone bookmark this post, a sure nomination for the post of the year
:haha: Actually I thought he had a career-threatening injury for a lot of the latter part of last year (foot/ankle?) which also kept him out of the Australian Open this year - but obviously others know better! And - no - I am not a fan of Nadal but if people are going to knock him they should at least try and get their facts right!!

federated
06-04-2006, 01:55 PM
Hi hi hi some people still believe that Nadal is a modest person I bet he keeps his own picture hanging in his bedroom

Nadal's antics are the worst ever seen in tennis and his behaviour is absolutely agressive. But he knows to hide it Unlike other "bad guys", Nadal knows to pretend that he is not and that is exactly what makes him so irritating.

There is no end to the string of irritating details about him. For example, the newest detail is constant coaching that he gets throughout every tough match he plays

Shame

Umm, how much do you know about tennis? Ever hear of Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe?

And what's wrong with aggression? Tennis is a sport, not a garden party.

mallorn
06-04-2006, 01:58 PM
I don't hate him. I just think he's very overrated. He's also a specialist and can only really play on one surface. I just think that this is wrong. Players shouldn't be like this. He took the rest of last year off after winning Roland Garros. What's up with that?
RIght on the point, Sam L

I am going to give you an answer to your "What's up" question: he took a rest because he wants to have his kingdom where he never looses. And that kingdom is clay. He doesn't care for other surfaces, because he doesn't like to play and compete, but only to win. Means are not important.
OMG. :haha: :rolls: :haha: :rolls:

uglyamerican
06-04-2006, 01:59 PM
Part of the fun of a two-man rivalry is picking one side and disliking the other. Like politics. Doesn't mean you hate the other. In the Sampras-Agassi rivalry, I supported Goran Ivanisevic. I guess that's like voting for the Green party.

bad gambler
06-04-2006, 02:00 PM
OMG. :haha: :rolls: :haha: :rolls:


That duo are MTF's version of Dumb and Dumber

star
06-04-2006, 02:03 PM
Part of the fun of a two-man rivalry is picking one side and disliking the other. Like politics. Doesn't mean you hate the other. In the Sampras-Agassi rivalry, I supported Goran Ivanisevic. I guess that's like voting for the Green party.

:haha: :haha: that made me choke on my morning coffee!

guille&tati4life
06-04-2006, 02:03 PM
How can you hate someone you don't know? :confused:

I doubt anyone here can logically "hate" or even dislike Nadal unless they know him as a person.

I am pretty much ambivalent towards him as a person just like I am to Federer.

His style of play however leaves a lot to be desired...

How can you like someone you don't know? does that mean we should all be indifferent to players?

mallorn
06-04-2006, 02:05 PM
That duo are MTF's version of Dumb and Dumber
I thought they were prima donna 2.0 and prima donna 3.0. ;)

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 02:09 PM
Umm, how much do you know about tennis? Ever hear of Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe?

And what's wrong with aggression? Tennis is a sport, not a garden party.

You people are unbelievable. Why don't your READ what I writte? Nadal is a FAKE, that's the problem. He pretends to be what he is not. Connors never prettended, neither did McEnroe.

The problem is not agression - I like agressive players, they are all agressive. The problem is FAKING. I hate lies

Tennis Fool
06-04-2006, 02:11 PM
Because he beat Federer in the semis last year. It took me some time actually, as a fan of both players, to realize there were separate camps here on MTF.

If you did up old threads prior to May 2005, you won't see this schism.

Plus, anything you climb the rankings, the more haters and lovers you'll have.

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 02:13 PM
Nadal is not directly hated, but only as reaction to too much hype on him which he does not deserve.

It is not us who criticise him who create fire, but the ones who warship him! They can't stand anyone poking at Nadal. I myself would rather joke about Nadal here than criticise him, because he is a joke. That amount of wish to win is downright comical to me. He is so narcisoid... he is actually a colorfull character - right from the commic book or something - but he has no right to irritate other players. It is a shame that he is alowed to do that.

celia
06-04-2006, 02:14 PM
I don't hate Nadal - but I admit I don't like him - the antics drive me crazy - too much fist pumping, and shouting and in-your-face stuff - which is exactly the same reason I don't like Hewitt. I prefer a quieter personality like Federer - though I wouldn't say Federer is my favourite player either!
Nadal seems pretty much to himself. his fist pumping seems to be only for pumping himself up, not sticking it to the other guy. i have never seen him be in anybody's face. he seems like a shy quiet guy who likes hanging out with the guys. by your own criteria you should actually love him.

betterthanhenman
06-04-2006, 02:15 PM
Nadal is not directly hated, but only as reaction to too much hype on him which he does not deserve.

It is not us who criticise him who create fire, but the ones who warship him! They can't stand anyone poking at Nadal. I myself would rather joke about Nadal here than criticise him, because he is a joke. That amount of wish to win is downright comical to me. He is so narcisoid... he is actually a colorfull character - right from the commic book or something - but he has no right to irritate other players. It is a shame that he is alowed to do that.

I guess you are dumber in the 'dumb and dumber' pair.

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 02:16 PM
Everyone answers me with one or two sentences. That is a clear proof that what I say is true

liisa
06-04-2006, 02:17 PM
Nadal is not directly hated, but only as reaction to too much hype on him which he does not deserve.

It is not us who criticise him who create fire, but the ones who warship him! They can't stand anyone poking at Nadal. I myself would rather joke about Nadal here than criticise him, because he is a joke. That amount of wish to win is downright comical to me. He is so narcisoid... he is actually a colorfull character - right from the commic book or something - but he has no right to irritate other players. It is a shame that he is alowed to do that.

you're right, he's a JOKE!! A very funny one,especially for his opponents.They are not irritated, they are amused

guille&tati4life
06-04-2006, 02:18 PM
Everyone answers me with one or two sentences. That is a clear proof that what I say is true

actually it is not

rofe
06-04-2006, 02:20 PM
How can you like someone you don't know? does that mean we should all be indifferent to players?

That is up to you. You are perfectly entitled to hate or like a person you don't know well. I centainly can't because it doesn't make sense.

ezekiel
06-04-2006, 02:22 PM
At first I had a negative impression about Rafa as a macho man trying to impress too much but since then I' ve grown to like him as a person since he seems very genuine and innocent and a great competitor . Anyone can like or dislike but if there is hate . it's the problem of the hater not of the one who is hated

guille&tati4life
06-04-2006, 02:23 PM
That is up to you. You are perfectly entitled to hate or like a person you don't know well. I centainly can't because it doesn't make sense.

so you don't even support any players?

DrJules
06-04-2006, 02:25 PM
Considerer by many to win too much like Roger Federer.

Castafiore
06-04-2006, 02:29 PM
that duo are MTF's version of Dumb and Dumber

I guess you are dumber in the 'dumb and dumber' pair.

:lol:

This is always the fun part of reading the dumb comments in GM: the great reactions to it. :yeah:

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 02:35 PM
What an ass-licking post, Castafiore

ExpectedWinner
06-04-2006, 02:37 PM
so you don't even support any players?

Have you ever thought of the possibility of supporting players because of their tennis game rather than personality/life story; shoulder/ass/other body parts size? :rolleyes:

djul
06-04-2006, 02:37 PM
because he wins!

Raquel
06-04-2006, 02:37 PM
I am a huge Federer fan - and a big Lleyton fan too and will be cheering for Lleyton all the way tomorrow - but I think Nadal is great. I love the energy he brings and some of the gets he makes are just amazing. I would love to see him live again. I saw him live once way back in Wimbledon 2003, but he'd be even better to see live now. Unless I am a fan of the player he is playing, I always find myself siding for Nadal. Against Federer, Hewitt, Ferrero, Murray, Robredo and Coria though, he's not the guy I wanna see win ;)

guille&tati4life
06-04-2006, 02:40 PM
Have you ever thought of the possibility of supporting players because of their tennis game rather than personality/life story; shoulder/ass/other body parts size? :rolleyes:

yes.
I know, but does their game then not make you like them?
But if you knew someone had an awful personality but he played good tennis then you would like them? I just think it's strange.
It's ok if you can just support players for their game. But i think if you do, then you do like them, at least to a certain extent

Castafiore
06-04-2006, 02:42 PM
What an ass-licking post, Castafiore
:lol:

nope, it's been fun to see the comments of others making fun of you. But your posts have been so silly and dumb that it's not difficult to do.
Hey, I'm easily amused. I know. ;)

MariaV
06-04-2006, 02:42 PM
OMG. :haha: :rolls: :haha: :rolls:
Now you see why I've given up on fighting the windmills here.

ExpectedWinner
06-04-2006, 02:48 PM
yes.
I know, but does their game then not make you like them?
It's ok if you can just support players for their game. But i think if you do, then you do like them, at least to a certain extent

I separate tennis and personal stuff. It's impossible for me to like/hate strangers.

But if you knew someone had an awful personality but he played good tennis then you would like them?

I would unless they were killers/robbers/rapers, drug users,etc.,

Castafiore
06-04-2006, 02:48 PM
yes.
I know, but does their game then not make you like them?
But if you knew someone had an awful personality but he played good tennis then you would like them? I just think it's strange.
It's ok if you can just support players for their game. But i think if you do, then you do like them, at least to a certain extent
To a certain extent but not totally in my case.

I mean, I don't particularly like every aspect of Michael Schumacher's personality (or rather, what we see of it and my impression of it) and he behaves like an ass from time to time (like in the last GP for example :rolleyes: ) but I still support him. I don't really ask perfection from these sports people.

I can't help but keep supporting the cyclist Jan Ullrich even though I think he's too lazy in his preparation and in his efforts throughout the season and he's not exactly a genius in the tactics department of the sport. But Jan does have an amazing potential (that he wasted IMO) and we do get to see glimpses of that so I keep watching him in the hope of just catching him on one of his good days. I think he's a bit like the Safin of cycling actually. Likeable, very talented but a total headcase.

rofe
06-04-2006, 02:49 PM
so you don't even support any players?

Ofcourse I do. Not because of who they are (simply because I don't know), but because of the way they play tennis.

_pyromatic
06-04-2006, 02:49 PM
Everyone answers me with one or two sentences. That is a clear proof that what I say is true
Actually, that's because it only takes one or two sentences to disprove your idiotic assumptions. :kiss: I have no problem with people criticizing Nadal as long as it's warranted and they have proof. What has made you think that Nadal is an arrogant, two-faced bastard anyway?

DDrago2
06-04-2006, 02:51 PM
:lol:

nope, it's been fun to see the comments of others making fun of you. But your posts have been so silly and dumb that it's not difficult to do.
Hey, I'm easily amused. I know. ;)

There are indeed a lot of funny posts here, but those that "make fun of me" are not funny at all to me, they sound more like a bit schauvinistic reactions, tries to exclude someone. But whatever - I don't give a damn about it, I am just content that I wrote my stuff about Nadal

The Undertaker
06-04-2006, 02:58 PM
I certainly don`t hate Nadal, but i don`t like him for following reasons:

- his styling, this pants are just too girlie for me, and this "vamos - rafa" on his snickers is :ras: . His ass is huge too, but i have no problem with that.

- his game - i like finesse players, his game is all about running and returning every ball in the court. He is defensive minded player, i don`t like this kind of players.

- his behaviour on court, obviously.

star
06-04-2006, 03:11 PM
sneakers

federated
06-04-2006, 04:01 PM
You people are unbelievable. Why don't your READ what I writte? Nadal is a FAKE, that's the problem. He pretends to be what he is not. Connors never prettended, neither did McEnroe.

The problem is not agression - I like agressive players, they are all agressive. The problem is FAKING. I hate lies

So...you went to school with Nadal? Or maybe you dated him or his sister? Otherwise don't see how you know so much about Nadal's "fake" personality.

It seems you see Nadal as a one dimensional caricature that has only 1 salient personality trait. Nadal is aggressive on court, so he must be hiding that aggression off-court! That's the sitcom version of people, not reality. You may watch tennis on tv, but those are people, not imaginary characters in there. They are also much taller than that. :angel:

guille&tati4life
06-04-2006, 04:26 PM
I separate tennis and personal stuff. It's impossible for me to like/hate strangers.



I would unless they were killers/robbers/rapers, drug users,etc.,

originally posted by rofe
Ofcourse I do. Not because of who they are (simply because I don't know), but because of the way they play tennis.

originally posted by Castafiore
To a certain extent but not totally in my case.

I mean, I don't particularly like every aspect of Michael Schumacher's personality (or rather, what we see of it and my impression of it) and he behaves like an ass from time to time (like in the last GP for example ) but I still support him. I don't really ask perfection from these sports people.

I can't help but keep supporting the cyclist Jan Ullrich even though I think he's too lazy in his preparation and in his efforts throughout the season and he's not exactly a genius in the tactics department of the sport. But Jan does have an amazing potential (that he wasted IMO) and we do get to see glimpses of that so I keep watching him in the hope of just catching him on one of his good days. I think he's a bit like the Safin of cycling actually. Likeable, very talented but a total headcase.

Thanks to you all, my post was quite stupid, don't know what i was on about. :smash: Of course skill determines who some people support and even me to a certain extent.

ExpectedWinner
06-04-2006, 04:40 PM
Thanks to you all, my post was quite stupid, don't know what i was on about. :smash:

It's common for this board but most people refuse to admit it. You deserve :hug: and :worship: for being different. :wavey:

guille&tati4life
06-04-2006, 04:49 PM
It's common for this board but most people refuse to admit it. You deserve :hug: and :worship: for being different. :wavey:

hehe thanks :lol: have a hug back :hug:

Argenbrit
06-04-2006, 05:16 PM
If you ask me, it's because of his attitude on court. Same with Hewitt.

nkhera1
06-04-2006, 06:33 PM
I don't hate him. I just think he's very overrated. He's also a specialist and can only really play on one surface. I just think that this is wrong. Players shouldn't be like this. He took the rest of last year off after winning Roland Garros. What's up with that?

What? He played more than Federer did after RG. Also if you look at the tournaments he missed, there were some good opportunities to gain some points and if he didn't have a serious injury he probably wouldn't have missed the Australian Open. The year before he would have advanced very far and was only beaten by Hewitt in 5 who went on to the finals. This year the courts were supposed to be even bouncier which would have made him much more effective. In fact he probably would have been a favorite to get to the finals.


Also about being one dimensional, sure he can't play on grass yet, but this guy did win Montreal (against Agassi), Spain (against Ljubicic indoors), and made it to the final of Miami (lost in 5 close sets to Federer). Sure he had a first round loss in Cincy after winning in Montreal but that was to Moya who troubles him on every surface and than he lost to Blake who is one of the top hardcourt players twice. Not exactly what I consider to be a one-dimensional player especially considering he is only 20 and grew up predominantly on clay. Its like Americans trying to be good on clay when you grow up only on hardcourts.

zethand
06-04-2006, 06:57 PM
i hate Nadal.. but it´s just because he is rich

stebs
06-04-2006, 07:02 PM
I respect Nadal and don't particularly dislike him although I would like to see him lose to Federer for once :mad:

The only qualm I have with him as a player and person is not the celebrations. It is perfectly legit to get pumped up but what does get to me is the pauses to break up an opponents momentum. When his opponent is on fire he takes ages getting ready and often he waits for the opponent to start the service motion but then puts up his hand to say stop and gets ready again. I know it isn't illegal. I just don't think it is very nice behaviour.

atheneglaukopis
06-04-2006, 08:12 PM
Or, as a commentator to Bodo's blog wrote for the contest describing the worst things about Nadal, "He's friends with Carlos Moya. I want to be friends with Carlos Moya. Actually, I want to be 'friends' with Carlos Moya."

jacobhiggins
06-04-2006, 08:21 PM
Well he's young and very popular and alot of his fans are not tennis fans and think he is the best when really he is not.

He's one of the best players right now and is clearly number 2 but I think people sometimes make him out to be the best when he clearly is not! I've become a fan of his but i'm not delusional about what he can and cannot do!

Leo
06-04-2006, 08:22 PM
I don't know either one personally so I can't hate them. But what I do hate is Nadal's game from an aesthetic point of view and I do hate his on-court antics. Grow up.

marifline
06-04-2006, 08:31 PM
imagine you are not a nadal fan... how can you not hate him during a clay season?????

that's it, I used to be neutral about Nadal, now I can't say I " hate" him it's just that I get mad watching his match against my favs... He's very "chiant" lol jumping evrywhere, never lose his awesome mental strenght etc he's evil :devil: ... I want Fed to beat him, really I want so to beat him on clay, just to prove it can be do...but I have also a great respect and admiration for him... if Nadal is hated that's because he's so strong and so great, and some pple just lose their nerves because of it :rolleyes:

Chloe le Bopper
06-04-2006, 08:54 PM
Well he's young and very popular and alot of his fans are not tennis fans and think he is the best when really he is not.


They're not? Oh.

kindablue
06-04-2006, 09:00 PM
I respect Nadal and don't particularly dislike him although I would like to see him lose to Federer for once :mad:



Can't you wait another week :devil: :lol:

1520919
06-04-2006, 11:37 PM
I have no problem with Nadal, except that he always seems to be digging into his a**.

JoJoMa
06-04-2006, 11:40 PM
Everyone hates the champion.

miss strokes
06-04-2006, 11:46 PM
i think nadal is one of the most loved players,he has a personality out there on court and is a player that is just great to watch,i dont understand all the stick he gets from a lot on this board.

Chocobo
06-04-2006, 11:50 PM
I don't like his style of tennis...Do some really think his style is esthetic???

miss strokes
06-04-2006, 11:53 PM
yeh,i think he's great to watch,i just think the constant berating of him is tiresome.

Iheartandy&roger
06-04-2006, 11:54 PM
I enjoy watching Rafa play he is energetic, fun and exciting to watch and very talented. Hating on him isn't going to affect him but for those that do hate on him I respect how you feel because sometimes there's something about a player that really gets on your nerves. On top of it all everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Natasc
06-04-2006, 11:56 PM
because he's very successful.

That's enough for some.

And because he's lacking in the artistry department. Brazil football team, despite being very successful has very few haters.
exactly...couldnt say better myself.....

adee-gee
06-04-2006, 11:57 PM
Because Roger can't beat him. And most people are Federer fans. Simple as that.

Bagelicious
06-05-2006, 12:03 AM
Because Roger can't beat him. And most people are Federer fans. Simple as that.


Not necessarily. I'm a Roger fan, but I have nothing but respect for Rafa. In fact I'm guilty of enjoying his enthusiasm and almost boundless energy on court. I can't believe how he gets to some of those shots sometimes...

And sometimes the interviews they are cute and make amusing, no?

adee-gee
06-05-2006, 12:06 AM
Not necessarily. I'm a Roger fan, but I have nothing but respect for Rafa. In fact I'm guilty of enjoying his enthusiasm and almost boundless energy on court. I can't believe how he gets to some of those shots sometimes...

And sometimes the interviews they are cute and make amusing, no?
:lol: you're a rare breed.

Unless you've followed the moto, if you can't beat him, you may as well join him :p

jacobhiggins
06-05-2006, 12:08 AM
They're not? Oh.

The majority of his fans are teeny boppers. Not all of you guys, but most of his fans probablly never even watched tennis before they found out about Nadal. Which isn't a bad thing, he's bringing new people to this awesome sport but alot of them are cluless and blinded by there love for there idol!

adee-gee
06-05-2006, 12:11 AM
The majority of his fans are teeny boppers. Not all of you guys, but most of his fans probablly never even watched tennis before they found out about Nadal. Which isn't a bad thing, he's bringing new people to this awesome sport but alot of them are cluless and blinded by there love for there idol!
:haha: do you have anything to prove this ridiculous suggestion?

Deivid23
06-05-2006, 12:16 AM
Because he´s Roger´s daddy

jacobhiggins
06-05-2006, 12:18 AM
It's true, there's no proof needed. You can search the forums and magazines and newsapapers and see what the fans have said about him. He's like Roddick, he's young, good looking, and good. He attracts a different crowd then the tennis crowd.

I've seen numverous posts saying, "I have never watched tennis before I found out about Nadal but I love him so much". You can input " he is so hot" in for "I love him so much" and you will cover most of the posters on these forums and websites.

miss strokes
06-05-2006, 12:20 AM
then what about marat safin,he's my fav player,his tennis is great but its his character that attracts me to his game more than anything.

adee-gee
06-05-2006, 12:23 AM
It's true, there's no proof needed. You can search the forums and magazines and newsapapers and see what the fans have said about him. He's like Roddick, he's young, good looking, and good. He attracts a different crowd then the tennis crowd.

I've seen numverous posts saying, "I have never watched tennis before I found out about Nadal but I love him so much". You can input " he is so hot" in for "I love him so much" and you will cover most of the posters on these forums and websites.
:haha:

I don't know why, but I'm finding you very amusing :hug:

jacobhiggins
06-05-2006, 12:24 AM
I only speak the truth!

Thanks by the way :cool:

Corey Feldman
06-05-2006, 12:36 AM
imo every top player has 'hatas' somewhere
even Fedstar and Safin.

Rafa fans generally are just more sensitive when little banana boy gets stick

:hug:

chicky841
06-05-2006, 01:12 AM
People can't help what they hate, just as much as they cant help what they like. Not much rhyme or reason especially concerning Rafa. Especially considering the kind of hate he gets spewed in his direction, you would think he was a horrible person. I personally dont hate any player, hate is too strong a word. the only players i think I really dislike are Ginepri and Blake. Yes I know James is a really nice guy but I just dont like him. Like I said you hate what you hate, I just try to keep my feelings to myself and only vocalize them when im screaming at the tv. As for Ginepri I dont see him much anymore so my dislike has died down a bit.

dmit424
06-05-2006, 01:31 AM
You people are unbelievable. Why don't your READ what I writte? Nadal is a FAKE, that's the problem. He pretends to be what he is not. Connors never prettended, neither did McEnroe.

The problem is not agression - I like agressive players, they are all agressive. The problem is FAKING. I hate lies


Uhh you seem like you are faking yourself out... Are you saying Nadal can go out there for like... 5 hours straight, and for the entire time, fake the fist-pumps, fake the energy? Just to put on a show? C'mon now, that seems illogical. There is no basis for calling him "fake". You could call Hewitt "fake" then, if you can call Nadal fake... and love or hate Lleyton, his persona is not "fake", so why would Nadal's be?

And the whole thing about not competing... where's the basis in that? He's said he wants to win Wimbeldon the most, and you can choose to discount that as him simply trying to make himself look "real", but that's just speculation. And how can you say he doesn't like to compete or whatever? That's just ridiculous. He plays the entire hardcourt season, won Montreal by beating Agassi, beat Fed at the Nasdaq (after losing there to him in the Finals the previous year), did fairly well at the U.S. Open, and has had good results on other hardcourt tournaments, winning a fair bunch.

Also, he actually shows up and competes on grass, unlike many fellow dirtballers (although at this point, it's unfair to call Nadal, a player who's beaten Federer on hardcourts, a "dirtballer"). At Wimbeldon, he displays the same antics and energy, even though he knows he's not the favorite (and is pretty much the underdog even in the first round)... He's not scared to show it. He just wants to go out and COMPETE like he always does, regardless of what people think.

To say that Nadal is fake and doesn't like to compete is just ludicrous. He grinds out every damn 4 or 5-setter he gets into on clay, and plays the rest of the season when not injured. Unlike Roddick, for example, who you rrrreeaaallllyyyy feel just comes to Paris for a short vacation before the grass season, Nadal takes his "weak" surfaces pretty seriously.

It is true, that at this point, no one comes close to Federer in terms of overall game. It's not that close, really.

dmit424
06-05-2006, 01:36 AM
Let's just look at the patterns. Three years ago, he was nobody, and no one cared. Then, he started dominating on clay, and everyone said, "just another dirtballer!". Then he won French, and everyone said, "A great great dirtballer, indeed!". Then, he lost in a 5-setter to Federer at the Nasdaq and people said, "Well, this proves he's a dirtballer. Federer took it easy on him for two sets but then got serious and won. Expected." Then, kabaam. He beats Agassi at Montreal and then beats Federer at Nasdaq and then at Dubai... and ohh sh!t... guy can suddenly beat the unbeatable, on a surface that he wasn't even supposed to be good on?! Well... WELL... haha! He STILL isn't very good on grass! Let's hate on him for that (until he suddenly beats top competition on that surface, too)... Or, if that looks too stupid on our (haters') part, let's just now hate on him for something he won't change, such as his "antics"! This way, we can always hate on him and always it will be justified!

It's loodacriis.

dmit424
06-05-2006, 01:38 AM
People can't help what they hate, just as much as they cant help what they like. Not much rhyme or reason especially concerning Rafa. Especially considering the kind of hate he gets spewed in his direction, you would think he was a horrible person. I personally dont hate any player, hate is too strong a word. the only players i think I really dislike are Ginepri and Blake. Yes I know James is a really nice guy but I just dont like him. Like I said you hate what you hate, I just try to keep my feelings to myself and only vocalize them when im screaming at the tv. As for Ginepri I dont see him much anymore so my dislike has died down a bit.


Yeah that's actually true. I can't help who I like or dislike either. For example, I should probably want to kill Kiefer, but for some reason, I like him kind of :confused: . I enjoy whenever he plays, he's fun to watch to me.

ChloeLove
06-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Was this thread really neccessary? It just gives haters reason to explain why they detest Nadal so much. He is young, talented, and succesful, he's bound to attract some resentment.

His antics are being blown way out of proportion. They're not SO bad that you can't stand to watch him play. Most players have their little antics, why not enjoy them? I do, I find them quite amusing actually . . .

I personally, find Nadal's energy and excitement on court very enjoyable. He runs down just about every ball hit in his direction, and some of the shots he hits are unbelievable. And I admit, I love when he yells 'Vamos'. I like it when other players celebrate too, I think I would watch Federer a bit more if he yelled in german :rolleyes:

I also agree with what Chicky said, in that you can't exactly help how you feel about certain players. I dislike some, but I don't hate any. Why would someone hate poor little inncocent Nadal? :awww:

jacobhiggins
06-05-2006, 03:15 AM
Federer is too cool for that. I like Federer for the very fact ,he acts like a King, not like a Jester!

Mimi
06-05-2006, 04:48 AM
simply because he is too good and people is jealous of him :eek: :p

Chloe le Bopper
06-05-2006, 05:13 AM
The majority of his fans are teeny boppers. Not all of you guys, but most of his fans probablly never even watched tennis before they found out about Nadal. Which isn't a bad thing, he's bringing new people to this awesome sport but alot of them are cluless and blinded by there love for there idol!
Ah. Unlike Federer, who brings in serious tennis fans like PamV. Gotcha.

ugotlobbed
06-05-2006, 08:01 AM
b/c nadals english sux, he talks too fast when he complains on a call, he always has an ugly grin on his face, and he wears those capris, majority of nadal fans are little kids or latins

Sam L (WTAW)
06-05-2006, 10:48 AM
Also, he's on drugs. How can a teenager be that built?

supersexynadal
06-05-2006, 11:05 AM
Ah. Unlike Federer, who brings in serious tennis fans like PamV. Gotcha.
Dont listen to him he was kicked out of vr.com :rolleyes:

And his "teeny bopper fans" wouldnt be on MTF if they really liked tennis would they?
Anyway. Hes so different from federer so tehy attract completely different fans but not many people like me, like bOTH of them. I like nadals attitude on court, i think its good and i also like federers coolness. And no, nadal isnt hot when u see him for the first time and most girls i know think hes UGLY. Its his intensity and style that make soe people love him. Roddick is different. He lives like a celebrity unlika nadal. Some people knew more about roddick than they know about tennis. I dont know anyone (besides spanish girls maybe) who like nadal for his looks etc. As for federer, how can u hate him? :angel: Hate is a big word. I dont think i hate any players. I just dislike some..

Sam L (WTAW) WHAT??? What do u know?
Dont u think he ever got tested before a tournament??? :mad: Puerta wasnt built and HE was doping. :mad: I dont care if u hate nadal or any other player but dont blab whats on ur mind without getting ur facts right :confused:

scarecrows
06-05-2006, 11:38 AM
the problem nowadays is thet you cant tell who is doped and who is not, you just try guessing. But many people inside the sport are quite sure that many players do that, they just try to do the building in a specific time during the preparation period (winter generally) and in tennis there arent surprise-test made in that period just before tournaments when all the steroids and such stuff are eliminated from the body.

I'm not saying that Nadal (or any other player) is definitely doped but I have a feeling than many players (including him) might do that.
I hope I'm wrong though. I dont hate him and it'll be for the good of the game that he keeps up with this level, but I dont think he will. His game style is very injury-prone and he's gonna have some trouble with it as the years pass

supersexynadal
06-05-2006, 11:44 AM
well when the steroids are emiliminated form the body then they CANT have an effect! Y would he dope suring the off season? I know many people his age who have very well built bodies and they dont even work out much. Y cant we say that roger is taking something coz he plays amaizng shots?? And btw, federer is as fit as nadal

scarecrows
06-05-2006, 11:55 AM
they have effect in building muscles and then you just can keep that body shape by working out

I'm not 100% sure even for Federer but you could see after the Rome final that Federer was exhausted instead Nadal could have run the New York marathon after 5 hours of game

supersexynadal
06-05-2006, 12:00 PM
I saw that final....Im still convincd that if hes the nd best player in the world he would have been cought by now. I doubt nadal or federer would do such a thing, any other player in fact

scarecrows
06-05-2006, 12:07 PM
I doubt nadal or federer would do such a thing, any other player in fact


you sure?

Canas, Puerta, Ulirach, Coria, Hood arent enough for you

Castafiore
06-05-2006, 12:10 PM
It's a bit naive to think that doping isn't happening in any competitive sport but on the other hand, speculating on who's doping based on next to nothing isn't helping the sport either. It's probably fun to do but part of it seems like wishful thinking to me.

connectolove
06-05-2006, 12:22 PM
posted by scarecrows: "Canas, Puerta, Ulirach, Coria, Hood arent enough for you"

Boy, I hate to say this but you can not find many cases in Europe. All these guys were caught though, so if Nadal or Fed were doping they would have been caught by now FOR SURE. Besides, I think that it is just awful to think that this may be happening with no real indications that it is.

scarecrows
06-05-2006, 12:41 PM
or maybe because in Europe they are far more developed in the doping sector than in Argentina so they have found away to not fall in the anti-doping trap

I repeat, this is just my feelings. I hope I'm wrong coz I wouldnt like that my favourite sport would be decided by substances rather than talent and training

guille&tati4life
06-05-2006, 02:03 PM
you sure?

Canas, Puerta, Ulirach, Coria, Hood arent enough for you

Excuse me? Let's not act as though these guys were evil dopers.

Neither Canas nor Coria should have been banned. They were given drugs by tournament doctors for injuries :mad:
I don't trust the atp for drugs. They thought rusedski was guilty then changed their mind. They banned Canas and now admit that it was because he was given medicine in acapulco.
I don't think that Nadal is on drugs but i don't think that the atp always gets it right, there are quite possibly players who do take drugs and get away with it and there have certainly been players who were banned who shouldn't have been.

Langers
06-05-2006, 03:08 PM
• The celebrations. The big knee lift makes me want to throw a brick at the screen
• The shorts. Just horrible.
• The long break between points. Does he need his towel after every point?

Argenbrit
06-05-2006, 04:02 PM
• The celebrations. The big knee lift makes me want to throw a brick at the screen
• The shorts. Just horrible.
• The long break between points. Does he need his towel after every point?

My thoughts exactly.

Corey Feldman
06-06-2006, 01:45 AM
The celebrations. The big knee lift makes me want to throw a brick at the screen

The long break between points. Does he need his towel after every point?:lol:
dont waste a perfectly good tv :yeah:
i also noticed nadal got a warning for that today by Pascal just as he faced break points.

cecilija
06-06-2006, 01:47 AM
he is a cheater and his game is ugly ugly as his pig face

ChloeLove
06-06-2006, 01:53 AM
• The celebrations. The big knee lift makes me want to throw a brick at the screen
• The shorts. Just horrible.
• The long break between points. Does he need his towel after every point?
This is the uptight attitude people have about tennis that is stupid, and really not that great for the game. Get over the pants, it's an item of clothing. I like them, I honestly don't see why they are such a problem.

And here we go with the celebrations again. Monfils and Hewitt are bashed because of it too. Players have different ways of expressing emotions, just enjoy their little performances.

The breaks can be long sometimes, but he wants to set up for a point feeling comfortable. I see it as a sign of composure, and maturity. If he takes too long he will be called on it, like today. And I really don't think the other player ever minds, they're probably thankful for the break they get when playing Nadal.

Rogiman
06-06-2006, 02:00 AM
And I really don't think the other player ever minds, they're probably thankful for the break they get when playing Nadal.
Not if they're about to serve and have to wait for the little prima donna (nothing to do with the stupid MTF poster) to get ready to receive.

tripb19
06-06-2006, 05:49 AM
I don't hate any tennis player, but I love Nalby a bit too much :lol:

chicky841
06-07-2006, 03:07 AM
I don't hate any tennis player, but I love Nalby a bit too much :lol:

Nothing wrong with that :)

ChloeLove
06-07-2006, 03:20 AM
Not if they're about to serve and have to wait for the little prima donna (nothing to do with the stupid MTF poster) to get ready to receive.
Well, I would hardly call Nadal a prima donna. I do understand your point though. However, he tends to be a bit quicker on the others players serve, it's not like he takes 2 minutes.

veyonce
06-07-2006, 04:17 AM
• The celebrations. The big knee lift makes me want to throw a brick at the screen
• The shorts. Just horrible.
• The long break between points. Does he need his towel after every point?

• The celebrations: He has actually toned down his celebrations this year compared to last year.

• The shorts: So far, he's the only player among the players endorsed by Nike in the modern era who can really pull it off (Feliciano a close 2nd) and it sort of became his trademark. Even Nike agrees, if not, they would have stopped production of the clam diggers/pirate pants/capri pants if it was that awful and if nobody purchases them.

• The long break between points: He's just making full use of the time to compose himself for the next point. It's also pretty uncomfortable to play with sweat constantly running down your face and arms. Each individual player has a different way of composing themselves eg. Djokovic likes to bounce the tennis ball at least 6 times before serving. Some may not feel the need to towel themselves but from what I seen recently, more players are slowly starting to towel themselves after every point to compose themselves.

Mimi
06-07-2006, 04:29 AM
:worship: :worship:

• The celebrations: He has actually toned down his celebrations this year compared to last year.

• The shorts: So far, he's the only player among the players endorsed by Nike in the modern era who can really pull it off (Feliciano a close 2nd) and it sort of became his trademark. Even Nike agrees, if not, they would have stopped production of the clam diggers/pirate pants/capri pants if it was that awful and if nobody purchases them.

• The long break between points: He's just making full use of the time to compose himself for the next point. It's also pretty uncomfortable to play with sweat constantly running down your face and arms. Each individual player has a different way of composing themselves eg. Djokovic likes to bounce the tennis ball at least 6 times before serving. Some may not feel the need to towel themselves but from what I seen recently, more players are slowly starting to towel themselves after every point to compose themselves.

Mimi
06-07-2006, 04:32 AM
nadal would care less about his immature haters :devil: , he is young, rich, successful, loved by millions of fans :cool:

veyonce
06-07-2006, 04:35 AM
they have effect in building muscles and then you just can keep that body shape by working out

I'm not 100% sure even for Federer but you could see after the Rome final that Federer was exhausted instead Nadal could have run the New York marathon after 5 hours of game

The most logic explanation for Rafa's well-built physique would be family genes he inherited plus the workout he receives from playing tennis.

Most probably their training regimes plays a part in their fitness levels. Rafa's used to running up and down the court since young so he has no problems playing 5 sets.

Jakeev
06-07-2006, 02:49 PM
I'm sure Nadal isn't liked by everybody but who say's he well hated? He is popular all over Europe and maybe not as known yet in the States.

The kid has a great heart and loves the game. He is great for the sport especially with Federer kicking everyone else around like a rag doll.

If people don't like him then so be it.

jayrhum
06-07-2006, 02:53 PM
The most logic explanation for Rafa's well-built physique would be family genes he inherited plus the workout he receives from playing tennis.

And also because the kid eats loads of frosties.

jayrhum
06-07-2006, 02:58 PM
Uncle Toni's website: www.tonythetiger.com


Ok you can go on... sorry for these two senseless posts...:)

Johnny Groove
10-31-2006, 02:56 AM
bump, how have the reasons changed in the last few months? :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
10-31-2006, 03:02 AM
Rafa has his court antics, not everyone likes 'em...

Apart from those - which I detest as much as everyone one whose able to maintain an objective view -
he's a fine, nice guy, and I'll be there to defend him against any a TARD that comes along,
Just remember, he's only twenty, Rogi likes the guy, and so do I.
And with that I rest my case.

RogersGirl
10-31-2006, 03:05 AM
often, though i'm not speaking for all fed fans since i myself am one, the people hating on him hate him because he challenges federer. and then there are arguments about the aesthetic beauty (or lack thereof) of his style of play... either way, i think he's an interesting player and enjoy watching him, he seems genuine.

tangerine_dream
10-31-2006, 03:06 AM
I don't really care for Nadal and Federer. Yeah, they're clearly the best players but I just don't cheer for them (unless they are playing Roddick. Duh.)[...]my question is why do people HATE on Nadal?
Probably for the same reason why you're obssessed with Roddick: you're a closet fan and hating on him gives meaning to your life. :)

GlennMirnyi
10-31-2006, 03:16 AM
often, though i'm not speaking for all fed fans since i myself am one, the people hating on him hate him because he challenges federer. and then there are arguments about the aesthetic beauty (or lack thereof) of his style of play... either way, i think he's an interesting player and enjoy watching him, he seems genuine.

Of course you aren't. I hate him a long time before he even won something against Federer.

RogersGirl
10-31-2006, 03:22 AM
lol, well then, you must have your reasons

Ernham
10-31-2006, 03:29 AM
bump, how have the reasons changed in the last few months? :rolleyes:

Well, didn't see any lists to compare to, so....

1. Constantly digging in his ass.
2. Constantly fidgeting with socks.
3. Constantly messing with his waterbottles.
4. Constantly finding innumerable ways to waste time between serves.
5. Constantly disrespecting his opponents with celebration/timewasting/raising his hand when they are serving.
6. Calling people "poor sports", when he is the worst of sports.
7. Calling people "stupid", when he is far, far from intelligent
8. Calling people "bad", when he is hardly "good"
9. Being a total hypocrite in innumerable other ways
10. Being an obvious steroid abuser.
11. Being stupid enough to believe anyone would believe someone with one arm twice as big as the other that such build is from "genetics" or tennis, not steroids.
12. Looking like a long haired rat riddled with cancerous lumps.
13. Playing even uglier.
14. Being completely one-dimensional.
15. Attracting a legion of fans that are somehow oblivious to all of the above.
16. Being ridiculously vain.
17. Grunting like every contact with the ball was comparable with child birth.
18. Being injured at the most fortunate times to save face.(hard draws/fast surfaces)
19. Being in good health at the most fortunate times(easy draws/ clay season).
20. Paying lip service to Federer to try to make himself look "humble", when it's obvious he is trying build himself up.(If Roger is God and I beat Roger, what does that make me???)

Anything new?

guga2120
10-31-2006, 03:32 AM
1. Constantly digging in his ass.
2. Constantly fidgeting with socks.
3. Constantly messing with his waterbottles.
4. Constantly finding innumerable ways to waste time between serves.
5. Constantly disrespecting his opponents with celebration/timewasting/raising his hand when they are serving.
6. Calling people "poor sports", when he is the worst of sports.
7. Calling people "stupid", when he is far, far from intelligent
8. Calling people "bad", when he is hardly "good"
9. Being a total hypocrite in innumerable other ways
10. Being an obvious steroid abuser.
11. Being stupid enough to believe anyone would believe someone with one arm twice as big as the other that such build is from "genetics" or tennis, not steroids.
12. Looking like a long haired rat riddled with cancerous lumps.
13. Playing even uglier.
14. Being completely one-dimensional.
15. Attracting a legion of fans that are somehow oblivious to all of the above.
16. Being ridiculously vain.
17. Grunting like every contact with the ball was comparable with child birth.
18. Being injured at the most fortunate times to save face.(hard draws/fast surfaces)
19. Being in good health at the most fortunate times(easy draws/ clay season).
20. Paying lip service to Federer to try to make himself look "humble", when it's obvious he is trying build himself up.(If Roger is God and I beat Roger, what does that make me???)

So, anything new?

that all means nothing the only reason people care so much is b/c he has beaten Federer so many times. If his head to head was the same as everybody else and Federer won the French the last 2 years this thread would proably be about Roddick.

KaxMisha
10-31-2006, 03:35 AM
Well, didn't see any lists to compare to, so....

1. Constantly digging in his ass.
2. Constantly fidgeting with socks.
3. Constantly messing with his waterbottles.
4. Constantly finding innumerable ways to waste time between serves.
5. Constantly disrespecting his opponents with celebration/timewasting/raising his hand when they are serving.
6. Calling people "poor sports", when he is the worst of sports.
7. Calling people "stupid", when he is far, far from intelligent
8. Calling people "bad", when he is hardly "good"
9. Being a total hypocrite in innumerable other ways
10. Being an obvious steroid abuser.
11. Being stupid enough to believe anyone would believe someone with one arm twice as big as the other that such build is from "genetics" or tennis, not steroids.
12. Looking like a long haired rat riddled with cancerous lumps.
13. Playing even uglier.
14. Being completely one-dimensional.
15. Attracting a legion of fans that are somehow oblivious to all of the above.
16. Being ridiculously vain.
17. Grunting like every contact with the ball was comparable with child birth.
18. Being injured at the most fortunate times to save face.(hard draws/fast surfaces)
19. Being in good health at the most fortunate times(easy draws/ clay season).
20. Paying lip service to Federer to try to make himself look "humble", when it's obvious he is trying build himself up.(If Roger is God and I beat Roger, what does that make me???)

Anything new?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Aloevera
10-31-2006, 03:35 AM
Nadal is hated becoz maybe he's too intense on the court. His behavior intimidates. Still, Hewitt is #1 in that department. :)

Let's hope he could control himself as he grows mature.

GlennMirnyi
10-31-2006, 03:41 AM
I think Nadal is hated mostly because:
1- what he plays is hardly tennis;
2- sore loser;
3- provokes all his opponents;
4- delays the game in moments of pressure = unsportsmanlike;
5- has no technique;
6- his fans are mostly cheerleaders that know nothing about tennis.

GlennMirnyi
10-31-2006, 03:42 AM
Nadal is hated becoz maybe he's too intense on the court. His behavior intimidates. Still, Hewitt is #1 in that department. :)

Let's hope he could control himself as he grows mature.

Hewitt is a nice and quiet kid compared to Nadal.

DDrago2
10-31-2006, 03:56 AM
because he is a sinner

Metis
10-31-2006, 04:01 AM
because he is a sinner
:haha:

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...

Are you related to that poster that started a thread to spread the message of Jesus Christ and save MTF?



EDIT: OK, I think I understand what you mean. He sinned because he beat JesusFed 6 times. That is a serious sin indeed... :lol:

Sunset of Age
10-31-2006, 04:03 AM
A sinner?

Okay - Here's me on to Teh Rafa Defence!

He's a fine, nice kid, with all human mistakes that are available - but please, PLEASE, give the kid a break???!!!

~Jin~
10-31-2006, 04:04 AM
Hewitt is a nice and quiet kid compared to Nadal.


Agree.

Bremen
10-31-2006, 04:08 AM
A sinner?

Okay - Here's me on to Teh Rafa Defence!

He's a fine, nice kid, with all human mistakes that are available - but please, PLEASE, give the kid a break???!!!

Ok you seem like a nice guy and all but I don't think you're going to change opinions here. People really really really dislike Nadal. Maybe if he changes some of his behaviour we'd like him more. Then again maybe not...his tennis itself is not very pleasing to watch.

DDrago2
10-31-2006, 04:11 AM
Nadal = the conceited, arrogant hypocryte

Aloevera
10-31-2006, 04:12 AM
Yes, becoz Hewitt has married and became a father, right?. He becomes much quieter.

Or still that doesn't matter as Nadal is JUST very annoying? LoLx

guga2120
10-31-2006, 04:14 AM
I think Nadal is hated mostly because:
1- what he plays is hardly tennis;
2- sore loser;
3- provokes all his opponents;
4- delays the game in moments of pressure = unsportsmanlike;
5- has no technique;
6- his fans are mostly cheerleaders that know nothing about tennis.

that last one more applys to you and the people who seemed to be obsessed with Nadal and go into every thread that his name even in it.

Clara Bow
10-31-2006, 04:14 AM
ClayBuster- thanks for giving it the good college try. And thanks for asking for folks to give him a break. :hug: He does have some faults, but so do a number of players. But I also think he has some very good attributes. Some folks have very strong opinions about Nadal. And even though I disagree with them, I have given up trying to share my opinion about what I believe to be his good points because I have found that it is falling on deaf ears. (I don't mean that as an insult...it is just an expression.)

Mimi
10-31-2006, 04:16 AM
:yeah: :bowdown:
that last one more applys to you and the people who seemed to be obsessed with Nadal and go into every thread that his name even in it.

Sunset of Age
10-31-2006, 04:28 AM
ClayBuster- thanks for giving it the good college try. And thanks for asking for folks to give him a break. :hug: He does have some faults, but so do a number of players. But I also think he has some very good attributes. Some folks have very strong opinions about Nadal. And even though I disagree with them, I have given up trying to share my opinion about what I believe to be his good points because I have found that it is falling on deaf ears. (I don't mean that as an insult...it is just an expression.)

Thankees dear. That's just what I meant to say.

Asmus
10-31-2006, 04:32 AM
Nadal is hated because he is so beloved. It's that simple.

Sheek
10-31-2006, 04:35 AM
I think Nadal is hated mostly because:
1- what he plays is hardly tennis;
2- sore loser;
3- provokes all his opponents;
4- delays the game in moments of pressure = unsportsmanlike;
5- has no technique;
6- his fans are mostly cheerleaders that know nothing about tennis.

agreed

Sunset of Age
10-31-2006, 04:35 AM
Nadal is hated because he is so beloved. It's that simple.

There's some wisdom in that remark, I guess.

DDrago2
10-31-2006, 04:36 AM
Nadal is hated because he is so beloved. It's that simple.

ANd why is he so beloved? Because he is a scoundrel The same reason from which he is hated

Sunset of Age
10-31-2006, 04:41 AM
ANd why is he so beloved? Because he is a scoundrel The same reason from which he is hated

Because he's a great tennis player, a nice and friendly guy, and Teh Mighty Fed likes him, too!
Come on here- that's why he's so much beloved, and RIGHTLY SO! :worship:

Asmus
10-31-2006, 04:41 AM
ANd why is he so beloved? Because he is a scoundrel The same reason from which he is hated

Why do people love he? Let me count the ways
1. He plays with his heart on his sleeve
2. He fights like a champion
3. He's the only player that's not afraid of Federer
4. He's a hard worker and one of the fittest players on the tour
5. Those MUSCLES!
6. And he wears clothes to show them off!
7. His metrosexual style!
8. His bun-hugging shorts!
9. He's not afraid to get his hands dirty
10. See my signature

guga2120
10-31-2006, 04:42 AM
ANd why is he so beloved? Because he is a scoundrel The same reason from which he is hated

b/c hes a scoundrel, thats such a dumbass remark.

foul_dwimmerlaik
10-31-2006, 07:51 AM
The same reason so many people hate Sharapova - he's successful, young, in-your face on the court, hyped, and wins a lot in spite of having quite a limited game. Extract shrieks, add ass-picking. Watch the results.

I admit to disliking him myself - hate is probably too strong a word for someone I odn't know personally, but his game is ugly to me and his on-court persona annoys me beyond proportion. He and Denko are the only players I almost always cheer against. And I'm not a Fed fan.
I get absolutely no joy from him winning a match ... But I don't feel any joy when he is defeated, either. He has a nice streak going, and he's humble. That's cool.
That's how I feel about Federer too. Except he's far cry from being humble, but that's okay.

Jack Sparrow
10-31-2006, 07:56 AM
i hate nadal above all for his behaviour on court...i think he don't know what is fair play...
besides nadal's play is a play without talent,but based only on courage and run....on fast surface his play isn't good and for this reason i think he is overrated...

Jack Sparrow
10-31-2006, 08:00 AM
guga 2010 e sheek said great things about hate for nadal....i agree completely with them!!!you are great!!!!:worship:

sanpo
10-31-2006, 08:29 AM
Know about what happened between them (Nadal-Berdych) during Madrid.

Then look at Mirkaland's signature. Tell me who isn't a hippocrite?

Taking what he said, then he should probably say he is a stupid person too.

Fed-Express
10-31-2006, 08:30 AM
Great posts everybody, great posts. Having opinions "unfiltered by rational thought" (Colbert;)) and claiming they are the only truth, that is what it is all about, isn't it? No surprises here from the Rafa-bashing corner :yeah:

Rogiman
10-31-2006, 09:01 AM
4. He's a hard worker and one of the fittest players on the tour
5. Those MUSCLES!
6. And he wears clothes to show them off!
Apparently not fit enough, and all the supposed 'hard work' and muscles are of no use.

mtw
10-31-2006, 11:23 AM
I don't really care for Nadal and Federer. Yeah, they're clearly the best players (okay, Nalbandian, you are good too little guy) but I just don't cheer for them (unless they are playing Roddick. Duh.) But my question is why do people HATE on Nadal? I don't care for him, but no adverse feelings.

Humble guy, very emotionally charged on the court, very good game... Sure, his "antics" can get kind of annoying, but it's obvious (in my opinion) that he never does it to tick off an opponent. Sure, he's just weird with his pants, awkward facial hair, and crazy sprint-outs, but you can't HATE him for that... And then, the man constantly has to retrieve his shorts from the dark depths of his a$$-crack, but he has no choice. I bet if he played without doing this, his pants would very awkwardly twist and ripple into his a$$, and people would make even MORE fun of him. You can't hate on the capri pants. So why is he hated?

I mean, he's just weird. Other youngsters tick me off much more and for good reasons, like Gasquet retiring from a match just because he was frustrated (a while ago, yeah, but he still mails it in sometimes) and Murray being a complete lazy a$$. Dude probably can't run a 20-minute 5k, which is kind of ridiculous for a pro tennis player.

Because of his behaviour after his match against Berdych. He behaved as total imbecile and cad. Why does he think, that he is the best player of the world? He is not. Why does he think, that all people in the world want to see his play in every final? He has not right to offend other players. He won only on clay surface and he was accidentally in final in Wimbledon in this year. It happens. And that's all. Why do you think, that his tennis is so genial? His tactic relies on impacting with all powers to tennisball. He will not bring up his arm soon. He must know, that not all people in this world want to see his silly, distorted mug and look on fancy gasture. He is adult. He must accustom, that he will lose in his life not only one time. As he is too common to understand it, he can change the sport. He can become a bullfighter. This is typical spanish sport and he can always win. I

t0x
10-31-2006, 11:55 AM
I have nothing against Nadal, I just wouldn't watch any of his matches unless either the player was one I liked, or maybe extreme boredom.

The time between points, the annoying antics, and his game just doesn't appeal to me. When I watch Gasquet or Fed I find myself saying 'Wow' a lot. With Nadal it just never happens, he does hit to many exciting winners.

leng jai
10-31-2006, 12:13 PM
I hate his game. Its ugly and slow paced. It blunts the game of people who are beautiful to watch...

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-31-2006, 12:53 PM
Nadal is hated because he isn't afraid of Federer.

Fans of all the losers on the ATP who kiss Federer's ass and fans of Federer will hate someone who makes them and their favorite player look foolish.

KaxMisha
10-31-2006, 01:06 PM
Nadal is hated because he isn't afraid of Federer.

Fans of all the losers on the ATP who kiss Federer's ass and fans of Federer will hate someone who makes them and their favorite player look foolish.

That might be the reason why Nadal is hated by Federer fanboys, but there are plenty of people who dislike Nadal as a tennis player because of... Wait for it... HIS TENNIS! :wavey:

Eden
10-31-2006, 05:16 PM
Nadal is hated because he isn't afraid of Federer.

Fans of all the losers on the ATP who kiss Federer's ass and fans of Federer will hate someone who makes them and their favorite player look foolish.

Using your arguments would mean that some Nadal fans like you dislike Roger because he is the unimpeachable number 1 although he is down in the head to head with Rafa? ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-31-2006, 05:29 PM
Using your arguments would mean that some Nadal fans like you dislike Roger because he is the unimpeachable number 1 although he is down in the head to head with Rafa?

I don't dislike Roger. I want him to fail so Rafa suceeds. Also, I wanna see the Fedtards cry which always happens when he loses.

Fans of the Red Sox don't like the Yankees.
Fans of the Yankess don't like the Red Sox.

Eden
10-31-2006, 05:38 PM
I don't dislike Roger. I want him to fail so Rafa suceeds. Also, I wanna see the Fedtards cry which always happens when he loses.

Sorry, then I have really misunderstood all your bashing comments about Roger *ironic smile on* How could I thought that you would dislike him? *ironic smile off*

Roger going down doesn't automatically mean that Rafa will take his success.

And what a pity that you wan't to see the Federer fans sad and crying. I can only speak for myself that I was more proud than sad about Rogers losses to Nadal this year in Rome and Roland Garros.

I don't know how you feel when Rafa loses - I would imagine that you were more proud than sad when Rafa reached the Wimbledon final and lost to Roger ;)

GlennMirnyi
10-31-2006, 07:33 PM
that last one more applys to you and the people who seemed to be obsessed with Nadal and go into every thread that his name even in it.

C-H-E-E-R-L-E-A-D-E-R!

Get your pom-poms ready for next year's clay season then.

GlennMirnyi
10-31-2006, 07:36 PM
Apparently not fit enough, and all the supposed 'hard work' and muscles are of no use.

All the hard work to never play the MC. :p

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-31-2006, 08:52 PM
You're no fun Eden. :D
Not being a true Fedtard. ;)

Saturn66
11-01-2006, 01:08 AM
Nadal is irritating, takes too much time between points , delaying tactics, arrogant, hypocrite.

Eden
11-01-2006, 04:31 PM
You're no fun Eden. :D
Not being a true Fedtard. ;)

I'm sorry for this ;)

I don't want to get involved in any of these kind of MTF-games. I will probably never understand how someone can waste more time to bash players he dislikes instead of supporting his favourite.

By the way you forgot to answer my question how you felt when Rafa lost the Wimbledon final to Roger. I really would like to know this :)

Sofonda Cox
11-01-2006, 04:33 PM
Nadal is irritating, takes too much time between points , delaying tactics, arrogant, hypocrite.

yes all of that is true! but would he have got to number 2 in the world without those things?