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The Major Question- How Much Left in the Tank?

Langers
06-03-2006, 07:42 PM
Just how much energy would’ve Nadal lost in today's epic? It lasted almost 5 hours, now Nadal might not feel the affects in the match or two, but later on his legs may feel a little heavy and we all know how much he relies on his speed and fitness.

AgassiDomination
06-03-2006, 07:43 PM
After a day off, he'll be fine. He isn't Murray. :lol:

betterthanhenman
06-03-2006, 07:44 PM
After a day off, he'll be fine. He isn't Murray. :lol:

My god Murray would have literally died 10 times in the course of that match.

Hapyy B'day by the way AD.

Langers
06-03-2006, 07:48 PM
After a day off, he'll be fine.
For his next few matches he will be fine, but it's towards the end of this tournament where he may struggle. One thing's for certain though; Federer would have watched the match with a large grin.

RonE
06-03-2006, 07:50 PM
He has enough left to fuel a fleet of 747's well into the next milenium.

robinhood
06-03-2006, 07:52 PM
I feel like running low on energy won't be happening to Nadal unless he plays three more five hour marathon matches until the final.

AgassiDomination
06-03-2006, 07:54 PM
My god Murray would have literally died 10 times in the course of that match.

Hapyy B'day by the way AD.
Thanks. :yeah:

dmit424
06-03-2006, 08:00 PM
For his next few matches he will be fine, but it's towards the end of this tournament where he may struggle. One thing's for certain though; Federer would have watched the match with a large grin.


I really doubt Federer was watching with a grin. Nadal has had his number on clay, Federer won't be grinning until he beats Nadal. By the way, I think that there's no way that Nadal will be more tired than Federer in the Finals, or at least it's premature to assume that. Look at the draws. I mean, Nadal's draw doesn't really look too tough until the Finals. Maybe Lleyton can scratch him a bit, maybe Monfils or Blake will too... but they won't beat him and they won't really have a shot. Federer, on the other hand, will probably breeze through Berdych, but than have a tough bout with Robredo, and then possibly be eliminated before he even gets to the Finals by either Gaudio, Davydenko, or Nalbandian... I mean, Nalbandian will likely be the guy to meet Fed in the semis, and Nalbandian/Nadal/Fed are the favorites, so... Fed, if he gets to the Finals, will have plenty of time spent on court.

admiralpye
06-03-2006, 08:03 PM
If last year's French Open is any indication, Rafa has more than enough left in the tank, even with his wonky ankle. Last year he also struggled with more difficult early-round opponents compared to his opponents this year. And he only dropped a set for this match with PHM. So barring any recurring injuries, he should be good throughout the tournament.

Hewitt is up next. It's exciting to see how they match up now.

Blue Orange
06-03-2006, 08:04 PM
Nadal will be a little tired and perhaps jaded for a few days but his draw is starting to look very straightfoward (Hewitt, Novak/Monfils/Blake, Ivan/second rate clay courter) in comparison to Fed's (Berdych, Robredo/Ancic, Nalby/Gaston/Kolya). Rafa will be back to normal way before the final - in fact today's match may be helpful as opposed to damaging.

BlueSwan
06-03-2006, 08:05 PM
I cannot for the life of me see this match giving Nadal any physical trouble. He is obviously in tremendous physical form and his previous matches in this tournament have been little more than a light workout.

If anything, I think this match improves his chances. It's always good to be tested and yet come out the winner.

LLeytonRules
06-03-2006, 08:05 PM
Hopefully Hewitt finishes what Mathieu started. ;)

LLeytonRules
06-03-2006, 08:07 PM
Not so fast, Nadal has alot of tough matches ahead, what are u smoking?!

dmit424
06-03-2006, 08:15 PM
Not so fast, Nadal has alot of tough matches ahead, what are u smoking?!


It's difficult to say. Yesterday and the days before, everyone was saying Hewitt would get straight-setted if he met Nadal. Now, some are saying it will go to 5 or that Hewitt even has a chance to win...

Mathieu is not Hewitt, Hewitt is not Mathieu, and just because Nadal converted only like 25% of his breaks today doesn't mean he'll be that bad on Monday. Or maybe it does. I just think that if Nadal is on his game 100%, he'll have no trouble getting to the Finals... but who's to say how well he'll play?

DrJules
06-03-2006, 08:18 PM
Hewitt has beaten Nadal 3 times and never lost to him.

RonE
06-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Hewitt has beaten Nadal 3 times and never lost to him.

But not on clay :o

And besides, their last match was in the 2005 Australian just before Nadal came into his stride.

jenanun
06-03-2006, 08:22 PM
just enough for him to win the tournament

LLeytonRules
06-03-2006, 08:26 PM
When Nadal loses, i cant wait to hear the excuses :devil: , Nadal's game is about speed and moonballing, in order to beat him, u must attempt alot of drop shots.

NYCtennisfan
06-03-2006, 08:28 PM
He will have more than enough--nobody will be able to tell he played 5 hours a day before.

It won't really matter because Hewitt doesn't have the firepower to knock Nadal around like PHM does. Unless Nadal makes a boatload of errors, he will win quite easily.

Socket
06-03-2006, 08:29 PM
The best thing going for Lleyton is that it's one of the very few times in his career that there's just no pressure on him for a huge match.

jenanun
06-03-2006, 08:29 PM
against nadal, hewitt will play his 4th (or 5th?) clay match in 2 years..

meanwhile nadal won 56 matches consecutive on this surface...

what do you think?

NYCtennisfan
06-03-2006, 08:30 PM
just enough for him to win the tournament
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LLeytonRules
06-03-2006, 08:37 PM
I am sure Hewitt would love to snapped the streak, thats what i think he will get a kick out off.He is a counter-puncher and will be ready to go 5th sets if need be.

spencercarlos
06-03-2006, 08:54 PM
I feel like running low on energy won't be happening to Nadal unless he plays three more five hour marathon matches until the final.
I don´t think so, this is a real test, and these next to matches are not the most ideal for Nadal as he could face 2 guys he struggles with, like Hewit and Blake.
Last year Nadal faced two players that were supposedly to give him fits but both they came with ill like Gasquet´s case and Ferrer who was dead tired in the QF.
This time with this 4th set with more than 4 and a half hours to complete against Mathieu, can´t be overlooked, and the question for the thread starter is very good.
We will see how it affects his future matches.

Rogiman
06-03-2006, 09:00 PM
If I were a tired Nadal I wouldn't take Novak in this kind of form lightly.

ae wowww
06-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Would be a shame to see Rafa come through that and then play a lacklustre 4th round due to tiredness. He is very fit and I'm sure he can recover in time to play Hewitt. I imagine he will be hoping for a straight sets crushing :lol:

Merton
06-04-2006, 12:59 AM
If I were a tired Nadal I wouldn't take Novak in this kind of form lightly.

Completely agree, but you can remove the "tired" label. Rafa would not take Djokovic lightly, period. The only uncertainty to me is how Novak will react to Nadal's ball.

scoobs
06-04-2006, 01:06 AM
How much left in the tank?

Probably plenty.

Okay, a 5 hour 3rd round match is not what he would have wanted, but at just turned 20 I'm sure he can shake off the effects quickly - he has a day's rest before Hewitt. If not at 100% intensity for that, he'll be pretty damn close.

Roger The Great
06-04-2006, 02:19 AM
As far as Nadal's draw goes, if I were a Nadal hater, I'd love his draw. After his tough match today, he could potentially draw Hewitt and Blake in the next two rounds. Hewitt's playing great tennis this week so far and Blake has been Nadal's worst enemy. Yes, this may be clay, but bad match-ups are bad match-ups. I feel that guys like Robredo, Davydenko, and Almagro are guys that Nadal has shown he can handle no matter the surface. I find this to be a worse draw for Nadal.

helen phillips
06-04-2006, 02:28 AM
Hewitt is not Mathieu

Exactly. Hewitt hasn't got the fire power to dictate to Nadal. Nadal's spin will spread the court while Hewitts' ball will sit up in Nadal's hitting zone. Hewitt's done well at RG before but once he hits a real clay courter he's done. I hope he can inflict a few more body blows to Nadal but I can't see it happening. It may have only been 4 sets but a nearly 5 hours it can't be bad for next opponents.

Dirk
06-04-2006, 03:46 AM
After a day off, he'll be fine. He isn't Murray. :lol:

Then explain his hamburg pull out.

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-04-2006, 04:34 AM
Federer better hope Nadal is not at a 100% if he ever wants to win a French Open.

All the Fedtards hoping (Angels on the Tennis Court) :D

Dirk
06-04-2006, 04:37 AM
Federer better hope Nadal is not at a 100% if he ever wants to win a French Open.

All the Fedtards hoping (Angels on the Tennis Court) :D

We just hope Roger is at about 90% focusing ability, that is all he needs to beat Piggy.

spencercarlos
06-04-2006, 04:37 AM
Exactly. Hewitt hasn't got the fire power to dictate to Nadal. Nadal's spin will spread the court while Hewitts' ball will sit up in Nadal's hitting zone. Hewitt's done well at RG before but once he hits a real clay courter he's done. I hope he can inflict a few more body blows to Nadal but I can't see it happening. It may have only been 4 sets but a nearly 5 hours it can't be bad for next opponents.
But Hewitt is a Grand Slam Champion and former number one, he knows how to win matches too, even on clay. And there should be a reason why he has beaten Nadal, i believe he knows how to play against him, and after such a long match today, i think Hewit has a chance.

atheneglaukopis
06-04-2006, 06:10 AM
Then explain his hamburg pull out.
He was saving up for RG.

Dirk
06-04-2006, 06:15 AM
He was saving up for RG.

Exactly, he didn't have the energy to play Hamburg.

16681
06-04-2006, 06:19 AM
Both Nadal and Federer pulled out of Hamburg. I think they were both saving up for RG :)

atheneglaukopis
06-04-2006, 06:23 AM
Exactly, he didn't have the energy to play Hamburg.
He didn't have--or wasn't sure he had--the energy to play *both* Hamburg, with several matches in a row, *and* RG, with best of fives. But I wouldn't want to bet on his not having enough to get through the second week of RG. Of course it's possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.

admiralpye
06-04-2006, 07:23 AM
And there should be a reason why he has beaten Nadal..

yep, hewitt has a good chance for this match-up. but take note that he has never beaten nadal in clay.

the last time hewitt won a match against him (all wins were on hard court), it was before nadal's RG win and succeeding winning streaks on clay.

the boy has become a more improved player since. i'm not sure if hewitt has improved as much, but he certainly does have a chance in the quallies. (but i'm rooting for nadal, of course).

Halba
06-04-2006, 07:27 AM
hewitt has nothing to lose...he will go for all out winners and avoid baseline confrontations...his deftness at the net has been great to watch this tournament...actually quite a skilled tennis player...his FH is on as well and BH is solid...and no errors!

Halba
06-04-2006, 07:28 AM
hewitt will fancy his chances against Nadal as opposed to bogeyman Federer who he never wins against in any tournament for that matter

Federerhingis
06-04-2006, 07:38 AM
After a day off, he'll be fine. He isn't Murray. :lol:

I know actually this is more like warm up for him. He will only get better after realizing he's survived a slight scare and still feels good about his stamina.

J. Corwin
06-04-2006, 08:13 AM
My god Murray would have literally died 10 times in the course of that match.

Hapyy B'day by the way AD.

Murray would have spilled his guts all over the court! :lol: There will be some real slipping and sliding there. :o

nkhera1
06-04-2006, 09:11 AM
Exactly, he didn't have the energy to play Hamburg.

Didn't Nadal play like 3 consecutive weeks on clay before Hamburg? I'm not sure if it was this year of last year and this is also considering he had some marathon finals matches. His first few rounds were easy which is good for him unfortunately for Nadal, Roger got to start a day early and get that extra day off but I think he will be fine by the time the finals roll around.

jenanun
06-04-2006, 11:16 AM
yep, hewitt has a good chance for this match-up. but take note that he has never beaten nadal in clay.

the last time hewitt won a match against him (all wins were on hard court), it was before nadal's RG win and succeeding winning streaks on clay.

the boy has become a more improved player since. i'm not sure if hewitt has improved as much, but he certainly does have a chance in the quallies. (but i'm rooting for nadal, of course).

agree...

plus, last time hewitt vs nadal,
nadal has won only 1 ATP title...

between their last meeting and tomorrow, nadal has won another 15 titles, including 1 GS, 6 TMS..... (and beating federer four times....)

i dont know how many title hewitt has won during this period..... probably none... or maybe one?

(though his other slams record... F in AO, SF in wimbledon and USO are impressive...)

Exodus
06-04-2006, 02:38 PM
Federer better hope Nadal is not at a 100% if he ever wants to win a French Open.

All the Fedtards hoping (Angels on the Tennis Court) :D

im sure fed will take him out if he reach the final. after seeing him questioning line calls and the infamous break when he was serving for the set i can see fed beat him.

PHM could have beaten nadal if he could just be a little more consistent and not let nadal playing mind games with him