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Federer wins but tested by Massu in 4 sets

almouchie
06-02-2006, 05:46 PM
the match expected to be the first test for federer
massu survived a 5 set match 9-7 against xman
then won in three against Miryni

Federer was not comfortable in 1st match
eased thru another quaifier falia

can massu test federer today
interesting match

almouchie
06-02-2006, 05:47 PM
now its 5-1 federer set point
but massu isnt playing very well

Fergie
06-02-2006, 05:48 PM
Set Roger 6-1

cobalt60
06-02-2006, 05:48 PM
Massu is hoping to just take a set off Fed. Anything else shouldn't be expected.

cobalt60
06-02-2006, 05:49 PM
now its 5-1 federer set point
but massu isnt playing very well
Massu was looking ok the first 4 games.

rofe
06-02-2006, 05:50 PM
Massu's best chance is the 2nd set. Roger won the 1st easily and when he does that, he usually loses focus in the 2nd.

nkhera1
06-02-2006, 05:51 PM
Federer is playing great. I'm hoping there is a bagel somewhere here so that they can show Tursonov's match.

robinhood
06-02-2006, 05:53 PM
So far, no contest, but things can change quickly.
Fed is playing some clean tennis though.

DrJules
06-02-2006, 05:53 PM
British Eurosport are showing this instead of Nalbandian vs Dimi. Obviously they think it is more exciting.

almouchie
06-02-2006, 05:55 PM
a set & 2 love up
massu is nowhere to be found
it is like he is sleeping

athina7
06-02-2006, 06:00 PM
British Eurosport are showing this instead of Nalbandian vs Dimi. Obviously they think it is more exciting.
Yeah, so is ESPN :rolleyes:

Massu looks out of it :(

cobalt60
06-02-2006, 06:04 PM
You mean Fed is now able to hypnotize his opponents? Anyway you are right, Massu needs to wake up. At least if one loses to Federer better to put up a fight. Massu won't be happy with his play. And as I said he was looking ok for the first 4 games.

almouchie
06-02-2006, 06:14 PM
massu is playing bad
sleeping
staying too far back & letting federer move him around
he is turning to much to his forehand & leaving soo much space to cover
to many unforeced error to bother federer who is looking confident
& playing well
2 sets in an hour or so is too easy
massu not fighting enough
or showing aggression

cobalt60
06-02-2006, 06:26 PM
massu is playing bad
sleeping
staying too far back & letting federer move him around
he is turning to much to his forehand & leaving soo much space to cover
to many unforeced error to bother federer who is looking confident
& playing well
2 sets in an hour or so is too easy
massu not fighting enough
or showing aggression
Unfortunately this is how he typically plays. It seems to be his comfort zone and he isn't able to get out of it. Fed is all pressure too which has something to do with the inability to change your game. :shrug: I just wanted a good match.

almouchie
06-02-2006, 06:32 PM
yeah me too
looks like a straight set thrashing

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 06:37 PM
I hope Fed finishes Massu in straights, if he does a very fresh Berdych is waiting :scared:

Flibbertigibbet
06-02-2006, 06:37 PM
Third set is quite close, Massu's not giving up. Hope there isn't any third set blues. :p

almouchie
06-02-2006, 06:51 PM
massu stop the dropshots
they are not working well
to clear too high federer is getting there easy
federer is serving quite well, several aces
5-5

almouchie
06-02-2006, 06:58 PM
5-5
breakpoit federer

almouchie
06-02-2006, 06:59 PM
federer breaks 6-5 will serve for match
massu disappointing

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:01 PM
Looks like a tie-breaker, Fed has really let down in this set instead of taking it to Massu.

Flibbertigibbet
06-02-2006, 07:01 PM
Great, Federer's promptly broken while serving for the match. On to tiebreak.

Lee
06-02-2006, 07:03 PM
:eek: Has Federer ever played that bad when serving for a match?

rofe
06-02-2006, 07:03 PM
Ah, I see that Fed started thinking about the next round and paid the price. :rolleyes:

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:04 PM
Looks like Roger will play an extra set. :o

Yappa
06-02-2006, 07:05 PM
:eek: Has Federer ever played that bad when serving for a match?

Yes, last time against Almagro in Rome. He lost that TB and probably also now against Massu.

Lee
06-02-2006, 07:06 PM
Compare to Blake/Almagro match, the last game I saw is like playing in slow motion.

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 07:06 PM
Ah, I see that Fed started thinking about the next round and paid the price. :rolleyes:

Its always been a problem for Fed :(

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 07:07 PM
Well almouchie you got your wish :ras:

willie
06-02-2006, 07:08 PM
massu is on fire right now...hope he keeps that level so we can watch a descent match:o

:p

Ales_Alessandra
06-02-2006, 07:09 PM
VAMOS NICOOO!!!!!! :bigclap:

mongo
06-02-2006, 07:09 PM
6-3 Massu in TB

Ha!

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 07:10 PM
All the Rafa fans are out in full force :lol:

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:10 PM
Nice choke by Fed in that set, if he starts getting even more tight, he will find himself in a 5th set.

rofe
06-02-2006, 07:11 PM
I hope he doesn't complain about the light unless Massu does too 'cause that would be stupid.

athina7
06-02-2006, 07:11 PM
Yeah Nico!!!!!!!

Flibbertigibbet
06-02-2006, 07:11 PM
Third set gone. So much for this being a cakewalk!

rofe
06-02-2006, 07:12 PM
All the Rafa fans are out in full force :lol:

That is a given isn't it? They will come out of the woodwork only when Fed is down.

rofe
06-02-2006, 07:13 PM
Third set gone. So much for this being a cakewalk!

They way he is playing right now, I hope he can sqeeze out the 4th because all bets are off in the 5th.

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:13 PM
Wow, he is looking bad out there, this is Massu. :eek:

Flibbertigibbet
06-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Doesn't look good in the fourth set either, as he's now triple break point down. Even if he manages to win this one, which won't be easy at all, I shudder to think how he'll do against Berdych.

FelipeMIA89
06-02-2006, 07:14 PM
VAMOS MASSU!!!!!!

*Viva Chile*
06-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Vamos Nico!!!!! :bounce:
now win the fourth ;)

TabbyHolla
06-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Oh no ESPN has cut to Sharapova :confused:

mongo
06-02-2006, 07:15 PM
I think Fed's pissed now. Look out, Massu.

athina7
06-02-2006, 07:16 PM
Oh no ESPN has cut to Sharapova :confused:
Damn ESPN :( :( :(

nkhera1
06-02-2006, 07:16 PM
Relax, Federer just beat this guy 6-1, 6-2 in the first 2 sets. Fed just probably let his guard down a bit.

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:19 PM
He needs easier service games, Massu is putting pressure on him.

fenomeno2111
06-02-2006, 07:20 PM
What a TB by Massu!! He played it perfectly... But also Federer played very weak......VAMOS MASSU!!

Fed-Express
06-02-2006, 07:20 PM
Funny, Federer loses a set and first thing some people do is predicting his downfall against Berdych. :rolleyes:

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:22 PM
Berdych has been playing lights out!!!!If Fed plays like he is in this set and lets his guard down, it will be over.

tangerine_dream
06-02-2006, 07:26 PM
Impressive that Massu won a TB in the third after losing the first two so badly.

Oh no ESPN has cut to Sharapova :confused:
LOL. Maria is the $$$$ machine. ka-ching!

betterthanhenman
06-02-2006, 07:27 PM
Well done Massu!

He is playing well now. But he will still lose happily. :)

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:27 PM
Federer's match is the last singles match left, should have been straight sets but Roger had his known brain fart!!!! :(

Lee
06-02-2006, 07:28 PM
Oh no ESPN has cut to Sharapova :confused:

Actually, it's the other way round ;)

ESPN was showing Sharapova/Molik match and thought Federer would close the match in 3. Unfortunately, Massu thought differently. Thus, ESPN returned to the women's match afterward. :p

athina7
06-02-2006, 07:30 PM
I'm just happy Massu pulled it together and is playing well.

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:32 PM
Massu's serving well and Roger is putting no pressure on his service games.I smell a 5th set if he is not careful.

Haute
06-02-2006, 07:34 PM
It's really bizarre, the last few days of the third set, and even now, Fed is just giving a very lack luster performance, like he doesn't even want to be out there. Dumping a lot of weak shots into the net, or hitting them long.

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:35 PM
4-3 Fed, he needs to attack Massu's service game now.

Blazed
06-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Does anyone know what Federer's record in tiebreaks this year is?

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:41 PM
Roger is having his chances, this match is a prelude of Roger being ousted by Berdych.

Jogy
06-02-2006, 07:41 PM
lets go Massu!! ;)

Billabong
06-02-2006, 07:43 PM
Federer's return game is absolutely awful since the 3rd set, he can't return serves consistently like he did in the first 2 sets. Massu has so much energy and he's pumped, Federer is lacking this energy right now...

Lebowski
06-02-2006, 07:43 PM
Rogers Tiebreak Record for past 12 months is 33-11


5-4 on clay

fenomeno2111
06-02-2006, 07:44 PM
For the year is 17-6 including the one he just lost

+alonso
06-02-2006, 07:45 PM
:haha: I never expected this
I'm so excited :D VAMOS NICOLAS! :D

Blazed
06-02-2006, 07:46 PM
Thanks, that's not a bad record. I guess I just happen to see the tiebreaks he loses.

Billabong
06-02-2006, 07:47 PM
If Fed isn't able to elevate his game more than that, this might go to a 5th set, and who knows, Massu might win it! He seems to care more about this match than Fed right now:o

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:47 PM
If this goes to a tie-breaker, he will lose.He aint showing any energy on Massu's service games.He could be broken anytime.

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Atleast Fed's matches are exciting. He still chokes :o

almouchie
06-02-2006, 07:52 PM
massu has been playing very well
& federer has been lazy in the legs & heads
he is slow
& a little down at times
but credit to Massu , he didnt fold & fought hard in the third set
6-5 massu serving to stay in match

Billabong
06-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Fed a bit more aggressive, 15-30

Lee
06-02-2006, 07:54 PM
:lol: Serve and volley by Massu. And Roger looked a bit slow.

almouchie
06-02-2006, 07:54 PM
very smart play by massu
strong kick serve & approaching the net to finish the point
great tactics

Billabong
06-02-2006, 07:54 PM
30-30, Fed is still 2 points away from the match;) But Massu is so intense!

Billabong
06-02-2006, 07:54 PM
Lucky Fed on that point, match point now!

almouchie
06-02-2006, 07:55 PM
match point federer
massu is making most of the play
on this service game federer manage to keep the return in play
nico needs a good strong first serve

morningglory
06-02-2006, 07:55 PM
GSM

Lee
06-02-2006, 07:55 PM
2 UEs from Massu. GSM Federer

BlueSwan
06-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Phew!

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:56 PM
Berdych will eat up Fed if Fed blinks.

almouchie
06-02-2006, 07:57 PM
game set match
Federer was lucky
massu was the better player in the 3rd & 4th set
& should have at least held serve in the last game
but all credit to him to have test federer this much
against better players, federer cannt win with this level of play

Ales_Alessandra
06-02-2006, 07:57 PM
Good fight Massu!!
:yeah:

Billabong
06-02-2006, 07:57 PM
Phiew, what a battle! Fed won, but he was very shaky and it's tough right to imagine him with the trophy, but let's see if he can elevate his game on the tougher matches to come! GO FED:bounce:!!!

robinhood
06-02-2006, 07:57 PM
I'm glad it's over.

nobama
06-02-2006, 07:58 PM
Way to make the easy difficult, Roger. Top notch there. :yeah:

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 07:59 PM
It was fun, quit the choking Fed :smash:

cobalt60
06-02-2006, 07:59 PM
game set match
Federer was lucky
massu was the better player in the 3rd & 4th set
& should have at least held serve in the last game
but all credit to him to have test federer this much
against better players, federer cannt win with this level of play
Yes you are right. Massu played a good last 2 sets. And he was very gracious at the end.

LLeytonRules
06-02-2006, 07:59 PM
Give me a break, Fed had this match in the bag in that 3rd set, he got tight when he was serving for it.Berdych will be ready for Federer, Berdych will be fresh but Fed should be as well with the day off, so no excuses if he goes down.

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:00 PM
game set match
Federer was lucky
massu was the better player in the 3rd & 4th set
& should have at least held serve in the last game
but all credit to him to have test federer this much
against better players, federer cannt win with this level of play

Yes, yes, Fed is always lucky when he carves out a win. :rolleyes:

Fergie
06-02-2006, 08:01 PM
Nice choke Rogi :kiss:

Nico! :yeah:

asotgod
06-02-2006, 08:01 PM
Give me a break, Fed had this match in the bag in that 3rd set, he got tight when he was serving for it.Berdych will be ready for Federer, Berdych will be fresh but Fed should be as well with the day off, so no excuses if he goes down.


Thank you. Federer just having the usual 'serving for the match' brain cramp. Nothing new. Nothing Massu did nothing special other than pump his fist over simple misses by Federer and shout Vamos. Pretty typical of such guys unfortunately.

Conita
06-02-2006, 08:02 PM
im sooo proud of Massu
he's such a fighter!
:)

WELL DONE!!! :yeah:

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:02 PM
Give me a break, Fed had this match in the bag in that 3rd set, he got tight when he was serving for it.Berdych will be ready for Federer, Berdych will be fresh but Fed should be as well with the day off, so no excuses if he goes down.

Fed will elevate his game against the Birdman. I am not concerned. He should be extremely pissed off right now and that generally helps with his next match.

nobama
06-02-2006, 08:02 PM
game set match
Federer was lucky
massu was the better player in the 3rd & 4th set
& should have at least held serve in the last game
but all credit to him to have test federer this much
against better players, federer cannt win with this level of playOh please. :rolleyes: He played excellent in the first two sets. Don't forget Rome where he played a horrible SF against Nalbandian and just about everyone (including myself) thought he'd get steamrolled by Nadal. Roger's had brain farts before - the Kiefer match at Wimbledon last year, Haas and Davydenko in AO.

DrJules
06-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Fed will elevate his game against the Birdman. I am not concerned. He should be extremely pissed off right now and that generally helps with his next match.

Birdman is probably no better on clay than Massu.

athina7
06-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Too bad he couldn't take it to a 4th set tiebreak, but still, well done by Nico:yeah: I really thought he would get steamrolled in the 3rd set, esp. after how he played the first 2, but he got it together.

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 08:05 PM
Oh please. :rolleyes: He played excellent in the first two sets. Don't forget Rome where he played a horrible SF against Nalbandian and just about everyone (including myself) thought he'd get steamrolled by Nadal. Roger's had brain farts before - the Kiefer match at Wimbledon last year, Haas and Davydenko in AO.

What do you expcet with this board, when he plays well he is boring he steamrolls his opponents and when he struggles he is lucky. Atleast his matches are exciting his opponents win more than 7 games in the match :o

Merton
06-02-2006, 08:09 PM
A good show of mental toughness from Roger to hang in there even though he did not have his A game :yeah: Roger exploited the Massu backhand ruthlessly in the first 2 sets but his level of execution dropped in the 3rd and 4th. Massu also became more agressive, as he had nothing to lose.

RonE
06-02-2006, 08:11 PM
Phew! Must have been nerve wrecking.

But a win is a win. Yes Roger let down but Massu is pretty competent on clay. Players are bound to have to come through these situations in grand slams? Remember against Haas when he seemed to be cruising and suddenly found himself in a dogfight? Similair situation it seems.

But, he got the job done- matches like this can be wake up calls more often than not so unless Roger has something physically ailing him I see no reason why he cannot rectify his performance in the next round.

Sparko1030
06-02-2006, 08:12 PM
:worship: NICO!!!! I know he lost but I am so proud that he got over his nerves and came back to win the 3rd! He did not give up despite how bad it looked after the 2nd and that is all I can ask of him.


NICO ROCKS!!!!! :rocker2:

and Congrats to Roger. :)

cobalt60
06-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Well I thought this match got pretty exciting. Who really wants to see one player steamroll over another. I am glad that Massu racheted it up a bit in the last 2 sets. Forget who did what brain cramp or choke or whatever. Who cares as the match turned out to be fun. :shrug: Both players fought well overall. Hear hear!

athina7
06-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Roger's had brain farts before - the Kiefer match at Wimbledon last year, Haas and Davydenko in AO.
Yeah, and all players have off days or bad patches during a match. It's perfectly normal. I don't understand what the big deal is and why everyone automatically assumes that he is going to play his next match like this.

nobama
06-02-2006, 08:13 PM
A good show of mental toughness from Roger to hang in there even though he did not have his A game :yeah: Roger exploited the Massu backhand ruthlessly in the first 2 sets but his level of execution dropped in the 3rd and 4th. Massu also became more agressive, as he had nothing to lose.Well I wouldn't say getting broken at love serving for the match is great mental toughness. :o But a win is a win and that's all I care about. Plus he was playing very well those first two sets. So hopefully Tony will have a conversation with him and tell him not to let up off the gas when he's in control.

DrJules
06-02-2006, 08:14 PM
A good show of mental toughness from Roger to hang in there even though he did not have his A game :yeah: Roger exploited the Massu backhand ruthlessly in the first 2 sets but his level of execution dropped in the 3rd and 4th. Massu also became more agressive, as he had nothing to lose.

The Federer backhand is performing well. Problems seem to be from the forehand.

Dirk
06-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Massu did raise his game especially his serving. Roger did good to learn how to return again on his BH side in the last two games from Massu.

nobama
06-02-2006, 08:15 PM
Yeah, and all players have off days or bad patches during a match. It's perfectly normal. I don't understand what the big deal is and why everyone automatically assumes that he is going to play his next match like this.Exactly. The maddening thing for me was the way he lost the third set. Had he won that 7-5 it would be considered a routine win. Now the likes of Patrick McEnroe are saying he's got a lot to think about. :rolleyes:

wcr
06-02-2006, 08:16 PM
Berdych will eat up Fed if Fed blinks.

With the exception of his triumph over Nalbandian and Kiefer recently in Dusseldorf, and Hewitt at IW, he hasn't been eating up top 10, much less top 20, players in the world this year.

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity/default.asp?player=BA47

Berdych is playing well at the FO this year but in his matchup against Federer, it's not about whether Federer blinks. Federer blinks quite often. It's about Berdych blinking.

asotgod
06-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Massu did raise his game especially his serving. Roger did good to learn how to return again on his BH side in the last two games from Massu.


Massu raising his game did not cause Federer to make 4 errors when serving for the match, only one of which was forced. Even at the start of the 4th, Federer began with 3 unforced errors and had to dig himself out of it. After that game, Roger wasn't really troubled on his serve. I think he lost 4 points in that game and then 4 the rest of the way. Roger needs to stop making life much more difficult for himself. One thing I did not like though was the fact that Massu was pump fisting and yelling when Roger made silly mistakes. What's up with that? Roger struggles against such and I just dont understand why.

scoobs
06-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Well he got out of the mess he got himself into and I agree that's the main thing and I also agree that through 7 matches he's going to have the odd hiccup here or there. That was a pretty major hiccup so I hope he's got it out of his system and will be back to his smooth-as-alabaster best in the next round because I'm going to need my emotional energy for the semis and the final :)

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:18 PM
Exactly. The maddening thing for me was the way he lost the third set. Had he won that 7-5 it would be considered a routine win. Now the likes of Patrick McEnroe are saying he's got a lot to think about. :rolleyes:

Yeah well, PMac will be back to his obsequious best if Fed wins in straights over Birdman. PMac has to say something that is supposed to feel like an expert's opinion and ends up looking stupid.

World Beater
06-02-2006, 08:19 PM
lol...everyone thought that in rome fed choked because of rafa across the net...goes to show you that fed chokes no matter who is across the net...it seems fed likes to dump a load when serving for anything.

his confidence went to hell because his serve and return game dipped..his fh then went bad, and he started playing so passively hoping to extract errors from massu in the fourth set. it sort of reminded me of the nadal sf match last year.

the positive is that the first two sets are two best sets he has ever played on chatrier.

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:21 PM
Massu raising his game did not cause Federer to make 4 errors when serving for the match, only one of which was forced. Even at the start of the 4th, Federer began with 3 unforced errors and had to dig himself out of it. After that game, Roger wasn't really troubled on his serve. I think he lost 4 points in that game and then 4 the rest of the way. Roger needs to stop making life much more difficult for himself. One thing I did not like though was the fact that Massu was pump fisting and yelling when Roger made silly mistakes. What's up with that? Roger struggles against such and I just dont understand why.

Yup I agree. All the more reason for Fed to be pissed with his performance. He will be focussed against the Birdman.

asotgod
06-02-2006, 08:21 PM
Exactly. The maddening thing for me was the way he lost the third set. Had he won that 7-5 it would be considered a routine win. Now the likes of Patrick McEnroe are saying he's got a lot to think about. :rolleyes:


Who cares what Patrick and Dick have to say? They are just a bunch of talkative commentators. They talk too much even in between points. One moment, they are hyping up a player. The next, they are pulling him down. Pretty typical of the media. Their commentatory is definitely sour. They just yap and yap. I dont know how Patrick became a coach. I just cant figure out how he got that job.

World Beater
06-02-2006, 08:21 PM
everyone keeps talking about berdman eating fed...i wonder what these people are smoking...if anything berdman is a bigger headcase and for no apparent reason will probably crap his pants.

nobama
06-02-2006, 08:21 PM
Yeah well, PMac will be back to his obsequious best if Fed wins in straights over Birdman. PMac has to say something that is supposed to feel like an expert's opinion and ends up looking stupid.He did the same thing after the Kiefer match last year at Wimbledon.

Neely
06-02-2006, 08:22 PM
When Massu found his range and confidence for his forehand, the match was pretty good :)

wcr
06-02-2006, 08:25 PM
everyone keeps talking about berdman eating fed...i wonder what these people are smoking...if anything berdman is a bigger headcase and for no apparent reason will probably crap his pants.

Your assessment of Berdych's headcase status sounds about right given his overall stats. Yet, he's playing well on clay and at the FO this year. Every once in a while a player sweeps through playing out-of-their-mind tennis for 2 weeks. Remember Martin Verkerk?

DDrago2
06-02-2006, 08:27 PM
Federer was brilliant in first two sets, constatly kept Massu off balance, Massu didn't have a chance to try anything - utterly humiliated

And than everything changes in the 3rd. The way Federer served for the match was a shame even for a junior! What crap!! No way he will win the tournament like this! No way!

NicoFan
06-02-2006, 08:28 PM
First, congrats to Fed.

Sad for Nico :sad: but also very proud of him for showing such fight to come back!!!!

It was his dream to play on Chatrier...and I think he did well and gave Roger a good fight. :yeah:

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:28 PM
No way he will win the tournament like this! No way!

Ok. :rolleyes:

mallorn
06-02-2006, 08:28 PM
It looked as if Roger switched off his brain when he was serving for the match, Massu really didn't have to do much. :shrug:

Nico fought well in the third and fourth sets but it was always Roger's match.

I agree with everybody who said this slip-up will just make Roger focus more and play better.

World Beater
06-02-2006, 08:30 PM
federer really did look nervous even though he tried so hard to conceal it.

the problem is his first serve. he just cant seem to bring out them when he needs to finish matches off. this was a real contrast to 2004 when he was a serving monster

+alonso
06-02-2006, 08:31 PM
I'm so happy with Nico's performance in the 3rd and 4th set :p
Like I said, I never ever expected Nico to take a set off Federer :p
Congrats Roger ;)

World Beater
06-02-2006, 08:32 PM
Ok. :rolleyes:

i would have to agree with the drago guy...fed cant afford to choke against nadal.

nobama
06-02-2006, 08:33 PM
i would have to agree with the drago guy...fed cant afford to choke against nadal.I wasn't aware he was playing Nadal on Sunday. :shrug:

wcr
06-02-2006, 08:35 PM
I haven't seen the match yet, only the results. I noticed that the match ended at 9 PM Paris time. For those who saw the match, how was the lighting?

+alonso
06-02-2006, 08:36 PM
I haven't seen the match yet, only the results. I noticed that the match ended at 9 PM Paris time. For those who saw the match, how was the lighting?
It was pretty fine to me! :shrug:

Himura
06-02-2006, 08:39 PM
this was a real contrast to 2004 when he was a serving monster

I don`t understand....was Federer serving better in 2004 than 05 and 06

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 08:42 PM
I don`t understand....was Federer serving better in 2004 than 05 and 06

IMO I think Fed's serve has taken a dip but his overall game has really improved. Especially his net game and his BH

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:43 PM
It was pretty fine to me! :shrug:

That is because video cameras can increase exposure when conditions become dark.

rofe
06-02-2006, 08:46 PM
I don`t understand....was Federer serving better in 2004 than 05 and 06

Yes, Fed's serving speed has gone down but I think he has intentionally done this after people started reading serves that were more powerful than his own serve.

He tries to put more spin on his first serve and tries to place it better. It would be good if he did unleash a powerful serve every now and then especially when he is 6-5 up serving for the match.

asotgod
06-02-2006, 08:47 PM
IMO I think Fed's serve has taken a dip but his overall game has really improved. Especially his net game and his BH


I agree. It seems as if in trying to modify his game for the French, IMO, he is so much more dependent on the kick serve and rarely has the flat serve to bail him out like in 2004. It seems as if he also needs to work on his forehand. He keeps missing easy sitters and the forehand deserts him when he needs it most.

Himura
06-02-2006, 08:53 PM
He tries to put more spin on his first serve and tries to place it better. It would be good if he did unleash a powerful serve every now and then especially when he is 6-5 up serving for the match.

I think that he has power in his serve still but maybe he can`t unleash that serve he had in 04 then....i don`t know. I saw federers matches in 04 and i dont see any changes.

SLICK
06-02-2006, 09:02 PM
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09:47pm, 02-06-2006
Federer fights off Massu in 4 sets


Roger Federer edged past Nicolas Massu 6-1 6-2 6-7(4) 7-5 to set up a fourth round encounter with Thomas Berdych.

The world number 1 wrapped up the first two sets swiftly, dominating his Chilean opponent with his all-court game. When he broke Massu in the tenth game of the third set to leave him serving for the match, it appeared that his progression into the next round would be plain sailing. Not so. The Swiss donated the game with a series of unforced errors to the delight of the Chilean who must have been surprised at such generosity from his illustrious opponent.
Massu duly won the tiebreak 7-4 as Federer strangely went into a mental funk. When he went 0-30 down in his opening serve, a fifth set was looking a distinct possibility. But the reigning Wimbledon, US Open and Australian Open champion regained his focus and concentration as Massu went all out to break the Swiss.
Serving at 4-5 down Massu found himself match point down, games having gone with serve.
A relieved Federer took the match at his first opportunity when Massu netted his backhand approach.

"I was very happy with the way I was Playing. Aggressive and serving well, really dominating from the baseline", Federer said. "I didn't play a good game at 6-5 to close out the match. It was a pity. So, obviously he had the mometum going into the tiebreaker. It was not easy."
"The first couple of points you still think, "what did I do wrong in the game?" And after that the points went so quick, I don't even remember the points."
So what will the world number 1 do in future to prevent such a lapse?
"Well, I guess it's concentration, picking the right shots at the right time, and I guess I didn't do that today."

By ANDRE JONES
From Roland Garros
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anserq
06-02-2006, 09:25 PM
That wasn't a test for Federer. He played quite confidently, he probably increased the amount of play to get ready for the final which he will quite frankly win.

oneandonlyhsn
06-02-2006, 09:28 PM
That wasn't a test for Federer. He played quite confidently, he probably increased the amount of play to get ready for the final which he will quite frankly win.

:eek: You are way too confident, Fed has a very long tough road to the final lets not get ahead of ourselves here :lol:

anserq
06-02-2006, 09:29 PM
Being honest :X

Corey Feldman
06-03-2006, 12:36 AM
It was no surprise Fed was made to struggle today...
Massu is afterall a great player when he's on form, and the fact that fed was one hold away from an easy ss win says alot.
but despite the fed brainfart/massu resistance, its a good win and another round over with.

Corey Feldman
06-03-2006, 01:01 AM
Berdych will eat up Fed if Fed blinks.alot of ppl bigging up Berdy v Fed for some reason :scratch:
Yes he's a great player but he's beaten 2 totally shit out of form players and 1 tired/injured player..
and everyone remembers the olympics 2004, alot forget Hamburg 2005 when Rog cruised through him 2 & 1.
Fed did not like/forget that Olympics loss and he wont when he plays him on sunday :devil:

scoobs
06-03-2006, 01:07 AM
I do think people are overhyping the Fed-Berdych match. Yes Berdych is in good form this week but as you say, Escude, he's beaten two pretty off-form players and another retired. He wasn't that impressive in the World Team Cup last week (which perhaps shoudn't be overestimated - neither was Gaudio, for instance) - and as you also point out, Federer pounded him last year 2 and 1 in Hamburg. Berdych is a better player this year - but then, on clay, so is Federer on the whole.

The pressure here is on Berdych to step up and make this a contest, IMO.

Corey Feldman
06-03-2006, 01:20 AM
berdy's actually had a crap year, surprisingly...
1 SF, in Adelaide at the start, he's lost to a few poor players as well, so its a big ask for him to beat Fed, not impossible because he does have potnetial... but i doubt it'll happen right now.

scoobs
06-03-2006, 01:22 AM
Berdych's best chance is if Federer has another prolonged wobble as he did against Massu and Berdych siezes the momentum.

I'm hoping Roger has got that out of his system now, though :)

Halba
06-03-2006, 01:25 AM
i doubt it'll happen ever again..federer is just too good

scoobs
06-03-2006, 01:32 AM
No-one comes through a 7 match tournament best of 5 sets without a couple of alarms and excursions along the way - well, perhaps Federer last year at Wimbledon but it's very rare.

Can't say I'm thrilled with Fed's performance today in sets 3 and 4, but he recovered well enough to seize his chance at match point, and he just needed the one, which is somewhat unusual. He got it done and you hope for better on Sunday. He does have these little struggles at times but it rarely means he loses - he's very good at grinding out a win in spite of problems in his game.

Corey Feldman
06-03-2006, 01:37 AM
Fed does have a braincramp in a few of his matches thesedays :o
im sure part of it is because he's winning so many matches and easily in the last 4 years, he still wins 99% of these matches anyway :p

+alonso
06-03-2006, 01:41 AM
I'm sorry but I think Massu's form on clay is better than Berdych one
In general of course! During the whole clay season
Just my humble opinion!
I think Fed will win

scoobs
06-03-2006, 01:43 AM
I just think he gets bored sometimes during his matches in the early rounds of tournaments these days - I mean, it's been exactly a year since he last lost in a tournament before a final, which is a ridiculous statistic.

I felt in Rome, when he seemed very grumpy and a bit negative on court, that he just wanted to get to the final and have at Nadal, and when he got there his play improved a hell of a lot compared to his earlier matches - though he still lost :(

I get the same sense here - he just wants to be in the final and get on with it, but he has to knuckle down a bit because there's still three matches to come yet and one or two potential banana skins if he doesn't maintain his concentration in the matches he has to play.

Corey Feldman
06-03-2006, 01:53 AM
Fed has never been in a Roland Garros final, and not many guys reach all 4 finals of the slams ever.. (not sampras, borg, mcenroe, becker, connors)
that should be enough motivation on its own before even thinking of Nadal.

World Beater
06-03-2006, 03:27 AM
I wasn't aware he was playing Nadal on Sunday. :shrug:

:rolleyes:

with a cupcake draw, nadal is a lock to reach the final. Nadal plays two clay court maestroes in soderling and kim, then faces premier choker extroadinaire - phm (as much i like the guy). There are maybe two players who can challenge nadal, and have good enough games to beat him in his half. But i dont think they can beat nadal in the mental dept on clay yet.

put it this way...i would be surprised to not see nadal in the final.

World Beater
06-03-2006, 03:31 AM
"I was very happy with the way I was Playing. Aggressive and serving well, really dominating from the baseline", Federer said. "I didn't play a good game at 6-5 to close out the match. It was a pity. So, obviously he had the mometum going into the tiebreaker. It was not easy."
"The first couple of points you still think, "what did I do wrong in the game?" And after that the points went so quick, I don't even remember the points."
So what will the world number 1 do in future to prevent such a lapse?
"Well, I guess it's concentration, picking the right shots at the right time, and I guess I didn't do that today."

By ANDRE JONES
From Roland Garros
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nothing roger...massu hammered er four straight winners by you...you did nothing wrong...:haha:

eh he's in the next round..whatever.

Dirk
06-03-2006, 04:14 AM
Massu raising his game did not cause Federer to make 4 errors when serving for the match, only one of which was forced. Even at the start of the 4th, Federer began with 3 unforced errors and had to dig himself out of it. After that game, Roger wasn't really troubled on his serve. I think he lost 4 points in that game and then 4 the rest of the way. Roger needs to stop making life much more difficult for himself. One thing I did not like though was the fact that Massu was pump fisting and yelling when Roger made silly mistakes. What's up with that? Roger struggles against such and I just dont understand why.

Roger has mental issues with holding his ground which is why he loses to Nadal. He needs to stop that ASAP but it likely won't happen. I just hope he can be steady enough to win.

Dirk
06-03-2006, 04:15 AM
nothing roger...massu hammered er four straight winners by you...you did nothing wrong...:haha:

eh he's in the next round..whatever.

all of the 2nd serves he was giving Massu didn't help. :( Yes, Massu was taking it to Roger and deserved the 3rd set.

ufokart
06-03-2006, 05:07 AM
I hoped that Massú could take this to a 5 setter, that didn't happen :sobbing:

Massu played very well but Federer didn't make it easy for him

nobama
06-03-2006, 05:42 AM
:rolleyes:

with a cupcake draw, nadal is a lock to reach the final. Nadal plays two clay court maestroes in soderling and kim, then faces premier choker extroadinaire - phm (as much i like the guy). There are maybe two players who can challenge nadal, and have good enough games to beat him in his half. But i dont think they can beat nadal in the mental dept on clay yet.

put it this way...i would be surprised to not see nadal in the final. :rolleyes: But Roger's not in the final yet so there's no point in even thinking about that match up. I'm not putting either of them in the final yet, but Nadal for sure will have an easier time getting there.

Allez
06-03-2006, 06:01 AM
There were worrying signs for Federer in the 3rd and 4th sets. He completely lost his focus. Looked as though he was already thinking about dinner. I kept thinking, what would Nadal do in this situation ? Nadal plays every point the same. The focus and intensity never wavers. That is why he has the edge over Roger at the moment and that is why he is almost guaranteed to reach the finals and Roger is not. It must be incredibly difficult to do for 7 matches, but Roger at least this once, needs to be focused on every point and play each point as if the whole championship depended on it. Any dips in concentration will be punished on clay. :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'm glad he's through, but Berdych troubles me. Doesn't help that I really like both players. :( Also it isn't going t get any easier from here on out for Rogi. His draw is monstrous. He needs all his mental faculties operating at 100%, 100% of the time :bounce::bounce::bounce:

yanchr
06-03-2006, 07:10 AM
I guess I'm so used to Roger's ups and downs, esp serving for match :rolleyes: The good thing is, when I start worrying about his next match based on his performance of the previous one, he ususally proves me there is no necessary relevance inbetween... I hope he will be scheduled 2nd instead of 3rd or 4th, and not after Gaudio, Nalbandian, Dementieva...and the likes :rolleyes:

nobama
06-03-2006, 10:26 AM
I think he got his scare and we won't see another match like this...unless his game has totally gone in the toilet which I don't think is the case.

almouchie
06-03-2006, 01:13 PM
actually i want them to play late
so i have time to come from work & watch some of the match
berdych will prove a tougher battle
a chance for tomas
federer has to play much better
massu was sleeping in the first 2 sets