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Bodo takes a swipe at European players sophistication

nobama
06-02-2006, 03:35 AM
http://66.232.148.140/blogs/tennisworld/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=921

<snip>But back on topic. The second thing that strikes me as decidedly un-Frenchman-like about Monfils is his lack of sophistication. At some level, he’s just a big dumb kid who loves to whale on a tennis ball, and he doesn’t have any hang-ups about showing the world that he’s any more than that. I like that in people. That particular kind of insouciance is relatively easy to find in Americans and comparatively difficult to locate in the French , or other western European folks. :o

In fact, one of the few things that seems a little bogus to me these days about The Mighty Federer is that he seems too absorbed in showing the world that he is more than a tennis player – that he’s International Man incarnate. The cues to this drift of TMF’s are his increasingly meticulous grooming and exceedingly smooth, Senatorial manner (although Dirty Little Rafa has a neat way of nudging him out of that conceit).

At times, I’ve wanted to grab the guy and shake him by the shoulders: It’s okay, Roge, you don’t have to be any more than a tennis player. Really. I’m not looking to you to solve the problem of world hunger, nice as it would be to get that done. I’m trying (unsuccessfully) to find a link to this scary story – quite a long profile at that - that ran in one of the UK papers a few weeks ago. The piece opened with this very weird riff on TMF’s deep interest in – get this! – fashion. And elsewhere he has said that his favorite designer is “Prada.”

Isn’t that, like, some Russian newspaper?<snip>

fenomeno2111
06-02-2006, 05:11 AM
Can he be more of a tool next time???
He's an idiot

soraya
06-02-2006, 05:11 AM
In fact, one of the few things that seems a little bogus to me these days about The Mighty Federer is that he seems too absorbed in showing the world that he is more than a tennis player – that he’s International Man incarnate. The cues to this drift of TMF’s are his increasingly meticulous grooming and exceedingly smooth, Senatorial manner (although Dirty Little Rafa has a neat way of nudging him out of that conceit).



:rolls:

Clara Bow
06-02-2006, 05:20 AM
Pete has a short memory when it comes to Roger. Even when Roger was not dressing so snazzy off the court, he was always meticulous with his (former) pony tail while playing even back when he was a whippersnapper peating Pete and Wimbly and wearing his shell necklace. (And god help me, but I liked the pony tail and necklace combo.) So his lcurrent well groomed self was just waiting to blossom.

But I guess Pete is tired of his recent focus of making potshots against Clijsters, Rafa, and well frankly- most of the Spanish speaking players of the ATP and so is now including Roger as a target.

Merton
06-02-2006, 05:35 AM
Peter Bodo stereotypes again. Not to mention the audacity to comment on sophistication while he doesn't know that the "Russian newspaper" is Pravda, not Prada.

By the way, i am still waiting for his thoughtful comments on the Agassi-Goldstein incident at IW.

ServeAlready81
06-02-2006, 06:05 AM
Monfils a big dumb kid? That is balls to just straight up call someone dumb, when your blogs are filled with crap.

MissMoJo
06-02-2006, 06:15 AM
He has to try to be controsversial, otherwise who would care?:shrug:

Santorofan
06-02-2006, 06:33 AM
Although I admire his book "Courts of Babylon," I have noticed that writer Peter Bodo seems to have issues regarding (for lack of a better term) metrosexual male urban sophistication. A few months back he was railing against the androgenous outfits of male figure skaters in the Winter Olympics and had the silly gumption to call people "Kool-aid drinkers" (a term that he numbingly overuses) who dared call him hypocritical in regards to his own sport's historical charges of seeming "unmanly." For better or worse, to some cynical types in the media , Federer just comes off as far too close to perfect as a human being and sports champion. Years ago Chris Evert occassionally had similar problems with the media ("wait, she's pretty, she's gracious, she's kind, AND she's always wins?"). Sheesh, why must such individuals always relate cynically to people unlike themselves?

silverwhite
06-02-2006, 06:39 AM
How does this guy keep his job?

fenomeno2111
06-02-2006, 06:45 AM
How does this guy keep his job?
Because people read his crap to insult him and then he has like 2 or 3 followers who are of his same breed. He thinks he's omniscient and reads the minds of every player and oh! Did I mention he's always disrespectful to anyone who's not Agassi or Sampras?

THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT

silverwhite
06-02-2006, 06:53 AM
Because people read his crap to insult him and then he has like 2 or 3 followers who are of his same breed. He thinks he's omniscient and reads the minds of every player and oh! Did I mention he's always disrespectful to anyone who's not Agassi or Sampras?

THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT

But how does he prevent players from taking his job or his life?

fenomeno2111
06-02-2006, 07:01 AM
But how does he prevent players from taking his job or his life?
Maybe they don't know, and if they do they just don't pay atention. I don't even read his crap, nevermind respond to him on his comment board. BTW he also reads this forum I believe....

Castafiore
06-02-2006, 08:02 AM
That particular kind of insouciance is relatively easy to find in Americans and comparatively difficult to locate in the French , or other western European folks.
Do you think that he actually believes this nonsense or does he just write that to get a kick out of the reactions.

He's taken a shining to my little country the last few months...I'm sure that we're honored :rolleyes:

Rogiman
06-02-2006, 08:42 AM
He was right about one thing: Monfils is a big dumb kid.

Castafiore
06-02-2006, 08:44 AM
He was right about one thing: Monfils is a big dumb kid.
Why do you agree? On what ground?

Rogiman
06-02-2006, 08:46 AM
Why do you agree? On what ground?
On the ground of watching yesterday's horror show.

Action Jackson
06-02-2006, 09:00 AM
On the ground of watching yesterday's horror show.

What were you watching the WTA again? Did you have a problem with the wave?

Castafiore
06-02-2006, 09:01 AM
On the ground of watching yesterday's horror show.
That was a weird match on both sides, I agree but I would not go as far as saying that he's a big dumb kid.

After having played in the rain for quite a bit, Dick Norman kept looking at the umpire hoping that he would stop the match but the "rain delay" decision didn't come. So, he stepped to the sidelines, took an umbrella from one of those ball boys and kept it over his head to get the "rain delay" message across. The umpire got the message and stopped the match after that.
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/sport_master/tennis/roland_garros/060601_R2_norman_monfils/S_060601_RG_DickNorman_Paraplu_META-20060601-163228.jpg
Dick said afterwards that he was planning on pulling more pranks because the crowd was great yesterday but he remembered in time that he's the tennis player.

Rogiman
06-02-2006, 09:28 AM
What were you watching the WTA again? Did you have a problem with the wave?
Who cares about the wave...? The guy can't hit a tennis ball properly, let alone think.
Big Dumb Kid, never have words been truer.

Action Jackson
06-02-2006, 09:33 AM
Who cares about the wave...? The guy can't hit a tennis ball properly, let alone think.
Big Dumb Kid, never have words been truer.

Don't worry your 7-6 7-6 6-7 7-6 fests are coming up soon :)

As for being a dumb kid. Do you expect him to be a Rhodes Scholar who is an expert in mollecular biology, quantum physics and speaks 10 languages fluently? Most tennis players aren't that bright.

BelgianWaffle
06-02-2006, 09:35 AM
"Let’s face it, France produces players of staggering variety and conspicuous talent, but pocket-sized republics like the Czech Republic, Croatia and Belgium are far, far better at turning out champs. Is there a pair of players who more consistently punch above their weight than. . . Olivier and Christophe Rochus? Maybe. But they’re Belgians, too: the Backhand formerly known as the Demented Dwarf and The World’s Nicest Human Being, Champagne Kimmy Clijsters!

Belgium. Man, what did those folks do, cross-breed Lilliputians and pit bulls?"

:unsure: And we are supposed to take that as a compliment??
He could learn a thing or two about sophistication himself.

MariaV
06-02-2006, 09:55 AM
Peter Bodo stereotypes again. Not to mention the audacity to comment on sophistication while he doesn't know that the "Russian newspaper" is Pravda, not Prada.

:haha: I wonder how he's heard of this 'Russian newspaper' at all. :haha:

Castafiore
06-02-2006, 10:04 AM
Belgium. Man, what did those folks do, cross-breed Lilliputians and pit bulls?"

:unsure: And we are supposed to take that as a compliment??
Probably.
You can say just about anything if you just follow up your controversial comment with "lighten up, it's a joke".

Does anybody know what Bodo's problem is with Belgium actually?
Why does he keep rambling about Kim Clijsters (and his rants about her being nice is just a facade :rolleyes: ), Henin (Backhand formerly known as the Demented Dwarf?? WTF?), etc?

nobama
06-02-2006, 10:43 AM
He has to try to be controsversial, otherwise who would care?:shrug:You really think he just says these things to get a rise out of people and doesn't really believe it himself?

almouchie
06-02-2006, 10:54 AM
he is surely more power & determination than talent
but that is nothing to be underminded or snapped about
at 19 he is playing well & making good results
he may not be the best frenchmen even, Gasquet has an armor of waeponary & shots
so good that he should never lose the kind of matches he loses
I read somewhere about federer that
his every move is calculated & thought of
nothing about him is spontanteous
to a great extent it is very true

Racket88
06-02-2006, 12:29 PM
He's a moron, what else is new?

BelgianWaffle
06-02-2006, 01:02 PM
Seriously. He's not the first person to make patronizing generalizations about entire groups of people he knows nothing about in a lame attempt at "humor" - nor will he be the last. The real unfortunate thing is that he's paid to disseminate his nuggets of "wisdom" to the rest of us. :o
:lol: I'm not offended by it, I just can't see how anyone would find it funny. :shrug:
Plus it annoys me since I assume that he's travelled around quite a bit because of his job and should know better. I know he was in Paris last year (I don't know if he's there now).