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Fantastic Friday

balloon
06-01-2006, 04:33 PM
3rd Round action begins on Friday..

Many obvious winners .. gaudio vs ferrero should be a cracker

:wavey:

i2ooney
06-01-2006, 04:36 PM
£20 to make £215

T Berdych V N Kiefer T Berdych to Win @ 1.33 Open
M Ancic V A Montanes M Ancic to Win @ 1.36 Open
J Vakulenko V P Schnyder P Schnyder to Win @ 1.16 Open
K Srebotnik V D Safina D Safina to Win @ 1.14 Open
Venus Williams V K Sprem K Sprem to Win @ 4.50 Open

No more bets with Sprem for me.

Early thoughts, may bet big on Ancic/Safina/Schnyder/Berdych

Sheva
06-01-2006, 08:35 PM
Leans on Ferrero, Berdych and Davydenko..

Not decided which play(s) i am gonna make...

i2ooney
06-01-2006, 08:52 PM
£70 to make £250

T Berdych V N Kiefer T Berdych to Win @ 1.33 Open
M Ancic V A Montanes M Ancic to Win @ 1.36 Open
M Vassallo Arguello V R Sluiter M Vassalo Arguello to Win @ 1.66 Open
J Vakulenko V P Schnyder P Schnyder to Win @ 1.16 Open
K Srebotnik V D Safina D Safina to Win @ 1.14 Open
N Li V S Kuznetsova S Kuznetsova to Win @ 1.22 Open

Sluiter is going to have play well to beat M VA.

Rest of my bets will include 4/5 of the above.

i2ooney
06-01-2006, 08:58 PM
Last bet: £200 to make £600

M Vassallo Arguello V R Sluiter M Vassalo Arguello to Win @ 1.66 Open
J Vakulenko V P Schnyder P Schnyder to Win @ 1.16 Open
K Srebotnik V D Safina D Safina to Win @ 1.14 Open
M Ancic V A Montanes M Ancic to Win @ 1.36 Open

elroyf
06-01-2006, 09:10 PM
I think Ferrero over Gaudio is a great bet. Good odds of 2.14 at Betfair.

Gaudio is very unconvincing and on poor form. Ferrero seems to be able to cope with him according to previous meetings.

Medium stake for me.

i2ooney
06-01-2006, 09:16 PM
I can see Gaudio coming into form in this one. Won't be betting on it though.

rediss77
06-01-2006, 11:22 PM
Davydenko vs Moya

H2H is 4-1 in Moya's favoure. On paper it looks good for Moya - 2 easy wins against Marin and Youzhny, both in straight sets, but the reality is different. Moya plays bad, in last match against Youzhny he was playing very bad, but it was Youzhny who looked even worser, the only component which is good in Moya's game is his serve and nothing else. While Davydenko is showing great tennis, he has won 7 straight matches, his in perfect condicion, I don't see any problems for Davydenko to win this one, the maximum Moya can do here is to win a set, I will not touch the handicap, as Davydenko isn't the one who always wins big.Also Davydenko beated Moya just 1 month ago in Estoril, when he wasn't in his best condition, now he's in his best.

Pick: Davydenko
Stake:8/10
Odds:1.48
Bookmaker:Pinnaclesports

Robredo vs Dlouhy

I really don't know what happened with Acasuso in last match, but I know that something was wrong there, as Dlouhy won in 4 sets, till the middle of 2nd set Acasuso was dominating.Robredo should win this one in straight sets, despite that he struggled a little bit against unknowed Bozaljic, mostly it was because Bozaljic 1st serve was quite fast(about 215km/h). Dlouhy don't have that kind of weapon, and in rally's I don't see any chance for him to beat Robredo, who's in my opinion is in his best form ever.

Pick:Robredo to win 3-0
Stake:7/10
Odds:1.50
Bookmaker:Bet at home

M. V. Arguello vs R. Sluiter

I feel like I have missed something here, as Arguello is setted as favourite against Sluiter. The thirst thing here is that what I saw from Arguello today wasn't something huge, he was running like mad and as Grosjean is far from his optimal form, he won a lot of points from that Grosjean was forced to make that one extra shot, and he wasn't ready for that. Second thing is that I doubt that this guy has ever played 5 setter, well today he did, and I think that after such long match he is excausted, as he's only challanger player, and here I see big advantage for Sluiter as he had 2 very easy first round maches, he has wasted minimum energy and he rested today. 3 thing is that Sluiter has played in many grand slams, while for Arguello this is the first time his in main draw, so the experience is in Sluiter side. And the last thing is that Sluiter isn't that bad at all, even if Nieminen wasn't 100% healthy he knowed that, but still played, also in 2nd round he beated easily Lapentti, maybe Lapentti wasn't in good form, but still an easy win, if he wouldn't be in good form I'm sure that it would be much harder match for him, so 2.40 on Sluiter is value+ good bet in my opinion.

Pick:Sluiter
Stake:5/10
Odds:2.40
Bookmaker:Pinnaclesports

Schiavone vs Pennetta

H2H is 2-0 in Schiavone's favoure. Actually not so many arguments about this one. Schiavone on clay in my opinion is better player,Penneta is good opponent for her as Penneta isn't player who plays a lot of winners, it's the same as Schiavone plays, and in this kind of match I see Schiavone as a winner, H2H only prooves my thougts, despite that both matches were played on hard, on clay it should be the same. Simply Schiavone's class is higher than Pennetta's.

Pick:Schiavone
Stake:6/10
Odds:1.50
Bookmaker:Fonbet

elroyf
06-01-2006, 11:27 PM
Nice analysis rediss. Any view on Gaudio-Ferrero?

rediss77
06-02-2006, 12:00 AM
No, but I like Ferrero more, simply because I think that everything is ok with his head, what I can't say about Gaudio. :)

Andre♥
06-02-2006, 12:16 AM
Gaudio for me. Ferrero is having problems with his recuperation from match to match. He always starts the tournaments very well, but then when the big matches happen, he always lacks energy...

bad gambler
06-02-2006, 12:49 AM
welcome to MTF rediss :wavey:

Mr Flamboyant
06-02-2006, 01:21 AM
Davydenko vs Moya

H2H is 4-1 in Moya's favoure. On paper it looks good for Moya - 2 easy wins against Marin and Youzhny, both in straight sets, but the reality is different. Moya plays bad, in last match against Youzhny he was playing very bad, but it was Youzhny who looked even worser, the only component which is good in Moya's game is his serve and nothing else. While Davydenko is showing great tennis, he has won 7 straight matches, his in perfect condicion, I don't see any problems for Davydenko to win this one, the maximum Moya can do here is to win a set, I will not touch the handicap, as Davydenko isn't the one who always wins big.Also Davydenko beated Moya just 1 month ago in Estoril, when he wasn't in his best condition, now he's in his best.



Were you watching the same Moya match I was on Wednesday??

Ays25
06-02-2006, 01:31 AM
rooney you have a running bet from yesterday 20 to win 1000 right?
just waiting groenfeld to lose, did u make a cover for that bet?

rediss77
06-02-2006, 01:46 AM
Were you watching the same Moya match I was on Wednesday??

Strange question :confused:

Mr Flamboyant
06-02-2006, 01:52 AM
Strange question :confused:

Just agreeing to disagree basically .. Sure Moya has more yesterday's than tomorrow's so to speak, but his straight sets disposal of Mikhail Youzhny was pretty impressive. I certainly wouldn't dismiss his chances of beating Davydenko.

Andre♥
06-02-2006, 02:02 AM
Just agreeing to disagree basically .. Sure Moya has more yesterday's than tomorrow's so to speak, but his straight sets disposal of Mikhail Youzhny was pretty impressive. I certainly wouldn't dismiss his chances of beating Davydenko.

Actually I don't think Moya was impressive last wednesday. He simply outplayed Youzhny, because the russian just can't play on clay.

And he was far from impressive against Marin.

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 02:07 AM
rooney you have a running bet from yesterday 20 to win 1000 right?
just waiting groenfeld to lose, did u make a cover for that bet?

No, there is no cover, unfortunately all my eggs are in the Jackson basket, and I fear Groenfeld may get away with this one. I'll make £1500 if Zheng and Jackson win.

I do have a few bets with Kutuzova as the vital selection rather than Jackson, so I am not too bothered. :)

rediss77
06-02-2006, 02:44 AM
Just agreeing to disagree basically .. Sure Moya has more yesterday's than tomorrow's so to speak, but his straight sets disposal of Mikhail Youzhny was pretty impressive. I certainly wouldn't dismiss his chances of beating Davydenko.

Don't want to argue much with you, but Moya was very weak, he can't make a normal drosphot or backhand, serve is really good and thats all, ofcourse experience, thats why his still able to beat players like Youzhny.

Mr Flamboyant
06-02-2006, 03:00 AM
Well, when all's said and debated Moya's one of the few guys other than Roger Federer to push Rafael Nadal (on clay) in recent times and that counts for plenty in my book.. Should be a good match between he and Davydenko.

rediss77
06-02-2006, 03:08 AM
Well, when all's said and debated Moya's one of the few guys other than Roger Federer to push Rafael Nadal (on clay) in recent times and that counts for plenty in my book.. Should be a good match between he and Davydenko.

Well about Rafa and Moya you must notice one thing, they are very good friends, they have practiced together a lot, and Moya is the one who knows a lot about Rafa's game.

Ale10
06-02-2006, 04:32 AM
Federer to win 3-0 at 1.12? That's crazy. Massu isn't that bad. It worths a shot probably, that Nicolas will win a set @4

dbnumberone
06-02-2006, 05:02 AM
Nothing jumped out at me so I'm just going w/ a gut pick
Bet to win a unit on Ferrero
Liked his strong showing v. Kohls, & Gaudio just seems like an accident waiting to happen
GL all

Finns4
06-02-2006, 05:05 AM
Donkey for me 8 units $1.57

Anders
06-02-2006, 05:55 AM
French Open

Outrights:

Ferrer +7000 (1)
Robredo +6600 (1)

WTD: 9-19 -4.53 units


Kiefer +264 o Bedych (1)
Sluiter +145 o V Arguello (1)
Gaudio -107 o JCF (1)
Moya +200 (1) o Davydenko (1)
Hrbaty +117 o Hewitt (1)
Djokovic +109 o Haas (1)

Freeze17171
06-02-2006, 05:59 AM
Well, when all's said and debated Moya's one of the few guys other than Roger Federer to push Rafael Nadal (on clay) in recent times and that counts for plenty in my book.. Should be a good match between he and Davydenko.

This really doesn't mean anything, Nadal looks up to Moya as a sort of mentor, so its not suprising that he sometimes struggles against him.

flmmkrz
06-02-2006, 08:09 AM
Well I still need Almgaro and Ferrer to pull off leftover bets from thursday

for friday im taking

masha x ancic x berdych @ 1.90 ish

cant see any of them losing

Robredo x Nalbandian x Safina x Vaidisova x Schnyder @ 1.87

All of them should outclass opponents, patty can be a flake so shes my worry in this one.

Pennetta @ 2.65

The head to head leans Schiavone but they've both been tight 3 setters but Flavias having a good tourny. Price is worth the risk as I dont see Schiavone as that overwhelming a favorite.

Davydenko x Robredo x Vaidisova x Sharapova @ 2.28

Moyas form hasnt impressed me too much and the rest should be cake

Lastly for fun

Nadal x Federer x Robredo x Sharapova x Nalbandian x Mauresmo x Safina x Vaidisova x Ancic x Berdych x Davydenko x JCF @ 10.35

Sambuca
06-02-2006, 08:16 AM
Sluiter to beat Vassallo is my bet of the day.
Vassallo is very poor talent....Sluiter is better than Argun or Tipsarevic or Lorenzi.....or not? big odds on Sluiter!

flmmkrz
06-02-2006, 08:28 AM
Sluiter to beat Vassallo is my bet of the day.
Vassallo is very poor talent....Sluiter is better than Argun or Tipsarevic or Lorenzi.....or not? big odds on Sluiter!

GL, I wouldnt want to put big money on Sluiter with his weak ass game

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 08:33 AM
If Kutuzova and Jackson both fail, I will give up gambling for good.

adk
06-02-2006, 09:06 AM
Guys, I don't post anymore, but had to give you a heads up on this.

There's a sure bet between Stan James and Bet365 in the Fed Massu handicap market.


Stan James

Federer, Roger -8 2.10
Tie -8 8.50
Massu, Nicolas +8 1.91



Bet365


Federer, Roger -8 1.72
Tie -8 7.00
Massu, Nicolas +8 2.37


Enjoy

rediss77
06-02-2006, 10:49 AM
D. Nalbandian vs D. Tursunov

Simply can't pass this one. Despite that Nalbandian isn't showing the best tennis, Tursunov is the one he should beat easily, as his game is too primitive for clay. Nalbandian will have no problems to return his serve as his known as one of the best returners, and in tactical thinking Tursunov is very weak. Henman had 21 break points, but converted only 3 of them that was one of the factors why he lost. Nalbandian will forse him to play long rallies and thats what Tursunov doesn't likes, can't see Tursunov winning a set here.

Pick:Nalbandian to win 3-0
Stake:7/10
Odds:1.74
Bookmaker:Pinnaclesports

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 11:04 AM
Zheng/Schnyder both on their way to possible surprise defeats - ruining plenty of my bets in the process. Looks like my F/O rests on Kutuzova, who will probably crumble as well knowing my luck. Jackson also blew her chance last night, when serving for a 7-6 3-0 lead.

Come on Kutuzova! :(

sports freak
06-02-2006, 11:09 AM
Anbody like Tusrsunov to blow Nalbo off the court,decent odds worth a shot!!!But the main bet i do like is Fedex not to beat Massu in straight sets!!!Feel theres value in Nico taking a set of the man!!!

20 units on Federer 3-1 @ 4.00 over Nico Massu - Also putting a few coins on Fed 3-2 @ 11.00 aswell!!!Match should be tight with the first set somewhere like Fed 7-6/6-4 imo!!!

Good luck!!!

bad gambler
06-02-2006, 11:13 AM
Zheng/Schnyder both on their way to possible surprise defeats - ruining plenty of my bets in the process. Looks like my F/O rests on Kutuzova, who will probably crumble as well knowing my luck. Jackson also blew her chance last night, when serving for a 7-6 3-0 lead.

Come on Kutuzova! :(


I guess it is easy for me to say it now, but never back the Chinese in slams, they are weak

v__m
06-02-2006, 11:21 AM
Anbody like Tusrsunov to blow Nalbo off the court,decent odds worth a shot!!!But the main bet i do like is Fedex not to beat Massu in straight sets!!!Feel theres value in Nico taking a set of the man!!!

20 units on Federer 3-1 @ 4.00 over Nico Massu - Also putting a few coins on Fed 3-2 @ 11.00 aswell!!!Match should be tight with the first set somewhere like Fed 7-6/6-4 imo!!!

Good luck!!!



winning 1 set aganist federrer is like a victory...

winning 2 sets aganist federrer is like a BIG BIG victory....

winning aganist federrer ..... only in dreams (just nadal can win aganist him)




for me betting in handicap´s or sets results is pure loterry.....

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 11:47 AM
I wish you had told me earlier BG :) Zheng you weak ****! I never bet on Sugiyama for the reason you mentioned, but she's Japanese anyway. The pick of the lot seems to be Li Na, (or Na Li) but in future I'll think things through a little more carefully. Jackson better not win now (and I don't think she will)

I am pretty gutted at the moment to say the least. Got a feeling Dementieva might break my heart. The last thing I want is to be relying on Vassallo later on in the day.

Sheva
06-02-2006, 02:37 PM
Got up late today! Great for me cause i wanted to do a double with Ferrero and Davydenko..Now i got a triple: Davydenko x Nalbandian x Sluiter

First two are quite obvious. Sluiter has really suprised me this tournament. He really played some good tennis against Nieminen and Lapentti. I guess this one will go all the way. Maybe Arguello is gonna be tired then because of the Grosjean match.

dbnumberone
06-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Nothing jumped out at me so I'm just going w/ a gut pick
Bet to win a unit on Ferrero
Liked his strong showing v. Kohls, & Gaudio just seems like an accident waiting to happen
GL all

Streak snapped, oh well, very manageable loss

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 02:48 PM
The Tennis Betting Gods don't want me to win big :lol:

Kutuzova was just teasing me yesterday. She's still teasing me now, but she'll end up losing. Dementieva is really a nutcase though.

I've backed Sprem big to beat Williams.

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 02:50 PM
(Even though I said I'd give up gambling if Kutuzova and Jackson both lost, I couldn't resist one last try)

I can see the future now, I'll end up on the streets you know, begging for pennies, telling anyone who'll listen about the times I nearly won x amount.

lol. I need serious help.

flmmkrz
06-02-2006, 03:24 PM
Damn Almagro.

A_Skywalker
06-02-2006, 03:47 PM
Thanks to gaudio , Mario and Schnyder ;)

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 03:55 PM
This is all going pear-shaped but on a brighter note, Vassalo Arguello has begun his comeback against Sluiter and will soon send him packing. I hope.

Stepanek is at around 1.25 against Benneteau. I'd advise anyone considering backing Benneteau to consider his fitness, he was absolutely finished against Baghdatis and if Baghdatis could have been more tenacious he surely would have won. Stepanek is a great bet, even at that price. Serving and volleying brilliantly in recent weeks.

Congrats to Blake backers (if there are any) and those brave enough to back Gaudio. I would have bet on it myself but am not thinking clearly recently (Sprem anyone?)

If Tursunov v Nalbandian becomes a live betting opportunity, Tursunov could be worth a punt.

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 03:59 PM
Anbody like Tusrsunov to blow Nalbo off the court,decent odds worth a shot!!!But the main bet i do like is Fedex not to beat Massu in straight sets!!!Feel theres value in Nico taking a set of the man!!!

20 units on Federer 3-1 @ 4.00 over Nico Massu - Also putting a few coins on Fed 3-2 @ 11.00 aswell!!!Match should be tight with the first set somewhere like Fed 7-6/6-4 imo!!!

Good luck!!!

Hope you went for it. Tursunov could easily pull off a shock with his serve and passing shots.

balloon
06-02-2006, 04:21 PM
Nalbandian is in trouble

Mr Flamboyant
06-02-2006, 04:27 PM
Nalbandian is in trouble

Big trouble .. nice to see Tursunov knuckling down on clay at last ..

v__m
06-02-2006, 04:57 PM
D. Nalbandian vs D. Tursunov

Simply can't pass this one. Despite that Nalbandian isn't showing the best tennis, Tursunov is the one he should beat easily, as his game is too primitive for clay. Nalbandian will have no problems to return his serve as his known as one of the best returners, and in tactical thinking Tursunov is very weak. Henman had 21 break points, but converted only 3 of them that was one of the factors why he lost. Nalbandian will forse him to play long rallies and thats what Tursunov doesn't likes, can't see Tursunov winning a set here.

Pick:Nalbandian to win 3-0
Stake:7/10
Odds:1.74
Bookmaker:Pinnaclesports



maybe perhapsTursunov 3-0 :eek: :eek: :eek:

A_Skywalker
06-02-2006, 05:03 PM
maybe perhapsTursunov 3-0 :eek: :eek: :eek:]

Nalbandian usually wins the hard way , its not worth it to bet on 3-0

i2ooney
06-02-2006, 05:48 PM
Last bet: £200 to make £600

M Vassallo Arguello V R Sluiter M Vassalo Arguello to Win @ 1.66 Open
J Vakulenko V P Schnyder P Schnyder to Win @ 1.16 Open
K Srebotnik V D Safina D Safina to Win @ 1.14 Open
M Ancic V A Montanes M Ancic to Win @ 1.36 Open

Easy!

Ale10
06-02-2006, 10:06 PM
Federer to win 3-0 at 1.12? That's crazy. Massu isn't that bad. It worths a shot probably, that Nicolas will win a set @4

Massu wins that set. :)