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Ancic's aftermatch

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:04 PM
What happened:eek:?? Seems like there was a furious battle out there:eek:!

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:06 PM
Capdeville complained to the umpire after the match point, then Ancic tried to shake hands and Capdeville refused, then they pushed each other before the umpire separated them, and Ancic slammed his racket on the floor:eek:... Anyone saw it?

*Viva Chile*
05-31-2006, 06:07 PM
I saw just the final, and I'm :eek: too
I was really surprised about Paul's behavior, it's not typical of him... I don't know what happened during the match. :confused:

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:08 PM
He really seemed angry out there, whoa!!

smucav
05-31-2006, 06:09 PM
It was just on ESPN2. Very bizarre.

fenomeno2111
05-31-2006, 06:09 PM
At the third set tiebreaker on Mario's MP Capdeville complained of a double bounce to the Chair Umpire when the ref. had already announced the end of the match, then Ancic came on a really agressive mood (apparently Capdeville said something to him) and pushed him then the Ref. stood in the middle and Mario pushed the Referee! then he went to his chair threw a racquet and picked up his stuff... :confused:

Uriel
05-31-2006, 06:09 PM
Capdeville complained to the umpire after the match point, then Ancic tried to shake hands and Capdeville refused, then they pushed each other before the umpire separated them, and Ancic slammed his racket on the floor:eek:... Anyone saw it?

I saw it.... a very bad ending of a very long match full of umpire errors... I understand why Capdeville was mad but to try to attack Ancic because of it is just idiotic.... Although this is very bad behaviour I hope Capdeville won't be fined a lot because he is a young player and he did played ok but he let his anger get to him...

Yappa
05-31-2006, 06:11 PM
pics/videos plz, thx.

UnDeR_RaDaR
05-31-2006, 06:11 PM
I've never seen this kind of fight in tennis before. wow!! :eek:
They almost punch to each other :eek:
it must be some frustation during the match :confused:

Ten_Isse_Fan
05-31-2006, 06:12 PM
:eek: First time I see this. I've seen some words being exchanged, etc. But these two were close to a fistfight if the umpire hadn't come down to separate them ! :speakles: I wonder what happened during the match.

*Viva Chile*
05-31-2006, 06:12 PM
In chilean press said they talk calm minutes later, Paul apologizes and the misunderstanding was solved. It's seems that were many umpire errors and Paul became mad. At least it were resolved.

Paul :o

fenomeno2111
05-31-2006, 06:13 PM
I saw it.... a very bad ending of a very long match full of umpire errors... I understand why Capdeville was mad but to try to attack Ancic because of it is just idiotic.... Although this is very bad behaviour I hope Capdeville won't be fined a lot because he is a young player and he did played ok but he let his anger get to him...
Ancic was the one who attacked Capdeville :wavey:

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:13 PM
Yeah, they also exchanged some words (anyone heard them?;))!

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:14 PM
Ancic was the one who attacked Capdeville :wavey:

I thought Ancic tried to shake hands and Paul pushed him away?

UnDeR_RaDaR
05-31-2006, 06:14 PM
I've never seen this kind of fight in tennis match before, they almost punch to each other :eek: it must be some frustation built up during the match. :confused:

Ome
05-31-2006, 06:15 PM
The commentator said that during the matchpoint Capdeville hit a drop shot and he "thought" Ancic couldn't get to it in time. But Ancic was there and hit a drop shot back and Capdeville himself couldn't get that drop shot of Ancic so it's game set and match to Ancic.

He was mad at the call on that mp...

Uriel
05-31-2006, 06:16 PM
I thought Ancic tried to shake hands and Paul pushed him away?

thats what I saw

Luke
05-31-2006, 06:17 PM
uooo... so Capdeville must said some really hevy weight staff to Ancic, if he came up to fight after he won anyway. Can anyone share thoughts on this match and situation after MP with us ? Anyone know what Capdeville said to Ancic ?

MariaV
05-31-2006, 06:19 PM
Oh dear, oh dear! :o
Good that they cleared it at least.

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:19 PM
I saw that.....

Yep, because Mario was cetainly happy to have won, not angry at Paul:confused:

fedpras
05-31-2006, 06:22 PM
I thought Ancic tried to shake hands and Paul pushed him away?

Yeah, looked to me like Ancic crossed the net to shake Capdeville's hand, and then Capdeville pushed him.

Experimentee
05-31-2006, 06:23 PM
Stupid of Paul to attack Mario because he was frustrated with the call :rolleyes:

athina7
05-31-2006, 06:23 PM
Wow :eek:

Chocobo
05-31-2006, 06:23 PM
At the third set tiebreaker on Mario's MP Capdeville complained of a double bounce to the Chair Umpire when the ref. had already announced the end of the match, then Ancic came on a really agressive mood (apparently Capdeville said something to him) and pushed him then the Ref. stood in the middle and Mario pushed the Referee! then he went to his chair threw a racquet and picked up his stuff... :confused:

:eek:

alfonsojose
05-31-2006, 06:25 PM
Capdeville :rolleyes: Very, very stupid behaviour :o

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 06:26 PM
Ancic was the one who attacked Capdeville :wavey:

Yeah right. And I am a better tennis player then Federer :rolleyes:

Have you seen the match? The IDIOT (Capdeville) complained ALL THE MATCH and protested on EVERY doubtful point. And he refused to give the hand to Mario at the end. He must be fined. Fined HIGHLY! :mad:

fenomeno2111
05-31-2006, 06:26 PM
I've seen it three times and Mario pushed Capdeville, Ancic shook hands with the ump while Capdeville was talking to the umpire then he was going to his chair Capdeville said something and Mario pushed him

Edit: I just saw it for the fourth time and Capdeville told something to Mario but it's impossible to tell but it was something like Are you blind? or something like that because he pointed his own eyes with his finger like saying that. then ANCIC got a hold of Capdeville and pushed him....I wish I could take it from my DVR to my computer

R.Federer
05-31-2006, 06:28 PM
Wow, that is seriuosly aggressive
Because the match is already over, I don't think he can get a fine/penalty for that, however
But I wonder what it was all about

Aleksa's Laydee
05-31-2006, 06:28 PM
fight fight fight ;)

Uriel
05-31-2006, 06:28 PM
I've seen it three times and Mario pushed Capdeville, Ancic shook hands with the ump while Capdeville was talking to the umpire then he was going to his chair Capdeville said something and Mario pushed him

there was no pushing until Mario tried to shake his hand.... then Capdeville said something and pushed him (thus refusing to shake)...

*Viva Chile*
05-31-2006, 06:31 PM
I saw for second time:

1st act: Paul get frustrated and angry and discussed with the umpire
2nd act: Mario came to the net, tried to shake hands with Paul, and he refuses, Paul said something.
3rd act: Mario get anger and pushed Paul
4rd act: They started to discuss and to push together
5th act: The umpire had to calm down them, and Mario push the umpire :lol:
6th act: Paul leaves to his chair and Mario still anger discussing and went to his chair and smashed his racket :o

I'm not defending Paul at all, bad behavior of him, he needs to madure in this aspect but I'm surprised for his behavior, he's a nice guy.

And I'm a Mario supporter too ;)

At least it was resolved minutes later :angel:

fenomeno2111
05-31-2006, 06:34 PM
I saw for second time:

1st act: Paul get frustrated and angry and discussed with the umpire
2nd act: Mario came to the net, tried to shake hands with Paul, and he refuses, Paul said something.
3rd act: Mario get anger and pushed Paul
4rd act: They started to discuss and to push together
5th act: The umpire had to calm down them, and Mario push the umpire :lol:
6th act: Paul leaves to his chair and Mario still anger discussing and went to his chair and smashed his racket :o

I'm not defending Paul at all, bad behavior of him he needs to madure in this aspect but I'm surprised for his behavior, he's a nice guy.

OK he said the same thing that I said and the Croat still doesn't believe, I'm not trying to defend anyone but Ancic was the one who pushed Capdeville not Capdeville to Mario :( I'm not a liar

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 06:37 PM
I'm not defending Paul at all, bad behavior of him he needs to madure in this aspect but I'm surprised for his behavior, he's a nice guy.

Well, today he wasn't so nice. He was so IRRITATING that is so hard to explain to someone that haven't seen the match. I've seen him for the first time in my life, and I hope it will also be the last! :mad:

JMG
05-31-2006, 06:40 PM
Too bad Ancic did the blog last week...

McPenguin
05-31-2006, 06:41 PM
:eek: Does anybody have a video of this?

Call me crazy, but I think that this sort of thing is good for tennis. It gives it a soccer like atmosphere which really appeals to the fans and attracts others to the sport.

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 06:42 PM
OK he said the same thing that I said and the Croat still doesn't believe

I've seen ALL THE MATCH. I don't need explanations from you, thank you :o

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 06:43 PM
Call me crazy, but I think that this sort of thing is good for tennis.

You are crazy! :D

Julio1974
05-31-2006, 06:44 PM
I think this guy had behaviour problems before, in some challengers. Maybe the Chileans can tell us more about him.

justClaudia
05-31-2006, 06:48 PM
I saw for second time:

1st act: Paul get frustrated and angry and discussed with the umpire
2nd act: Mario came to the net, tried to shake hands with Paul, and he refuses, Paul said something.
3rd act: Mario get anger and pushed Paul
4rd act: They started to discuss and to push together
5th act: The umpire had to calm down them, and Mario push the umpire :lol:
6th act: Paul leaves to his chair and Mario still anger discussing and went to his chair and smashed his racket :o

I'm not defending Paul at all, bad behavior of him, he needs to madure in this aspect but I'm surprised for his behavior, he's a nice guy.

And I'm a Mario supporter too ;)

At least it was resolved minutes later :angel:

That is exactly what I saw as well.

And I am not here trying to defend Capdville, I am not a fan his, nor Mario's. Far from that in fact.

There's no excuse for the behavior of them both. Pushing each other, pushing the Umpire.......Come on guys. :rolleyes:

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 06:49 PM
But I wonder what it was all about

Long version short: The refree made a lot of errors in the match, Capdeville was angry all the match (most of errors were against him), and at the end he refused to accept the defeat and he showed it clearly :o

Because the match is already over, I don't think he can get a fine/penalty for that, however

I hope he (Capdeville) WILL be fined for all he did today! :mad:

JMG
05-31-2006, 06:53 PM
When I saw Capdeville in 2004 he really behaved like a freak. During the breaks he was talking.

shotgun
05-31-2006, 06:59 PM
I read some reports of Capdeville behaving like an ass during a match in US Open qualies last year, but I guess I have never seen him playing to be honest.

mickymouse
05-31-2006, 06:59 PM
I think after that last drop shot, Capdeville approached the chair to discuss the point with the umpire but Ancic was already celebrating and shaking hands, and that pissed Capdeville off.
All in all, I think it was just a momentary loss of cool, and I thought it was nice of Ancic to still sign autographs for the kids even though you could see he was still fuming.

fenomeno2111
05-31-2006, 07:22 PM
I've seen ALL THE MATCH. I don't need explanations from you, thank you :o
Ok three people saying the same story but you are reluctant to believe it...You are 100% unbiased as most of the croats here... :rolleyes:

FelipeMIA89
05-31-2006, 07:24 PM
I hope he (Capdeville) WILL be fined for all he did today! :mad:[/QUOTE]

jajajaja can you tell me what he should be fined for??? I didin't know you get fined for being angry... I know both might be fined for what happened at the end of the match... :rolleyes:

tennismaster882001
05-31-2006, 07:33 PM
The only thing that matters is that Mario is in the third round! :-)

ezekiel
05-31-2006, 07:33 PM
I saw replay, Capdeville behaved strange and got into his face like a madman
Officials need to test Capdeville for dope :devil:

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 07:50 PM
Ok three people saying the same story but you are reluctant to believe it

I just see that people talk about Capdeville's bad attitude on this topic, there will be some reasons for that :wavey:

Guybrush
05-31-2006, 07:53 PM
I saw replay, Capdeville behaved strange and got into his face like a madman
Officials need to test Capdeville for dope :devil:

No, like fenomeno2111 said Ancic is the bad guy. It's so normal to be angry after you win the match 3-0 :o

Uriel
05-31-2006, 08:03 PM
Ok three people saying the same story but you are reluctant to believe it...You are 100% unbiased as most of the croats here... :rolleyes:

I remember what I saw... but I am also aware I saw it once and it lasted like 4,5? seconds and that I could be wrong. BUT until I see a video of it I'm gonna belive my pair of eyes and not 3 pairs of people I've never met... OK?

AgassiDomination
05-31-2006, 08:19 PM
Stop acting like old farts, its a sport. Only a matter of time till some scuffles occur.

tennisgal_001
05-31-2006, 08:24 PM
Any pics/videos/news reports on this?

Johnny Groove
05-31-2006, 08:44 PM
I would definately bet on ancic in a fight. He would kick Paul's ass. Hes got 2 inches and 8 pounds on him, too.

FelipeMIA89
05-31-2006, 09:17 PM
its not all height and weight!... Paul has the garra and will eventually prevail in the fight jejejeje... All that matters is that Ancic started the pushing and then both acted stupid... croatians stop being biased..

Natasc
05-31-2006, 09:18 PM
I saw for second time:

1st act: Paul get frustrated and angry and discussed with the umpire
2nd act: Mario came to the net, tried to shake hands with Paul, and he refuses, Paul said something.
3rd act: Mario get anger and pushed Paul
4rd act: They started to discuss and to push together
5th act: The umpire had to calm down them, and Mario push the umpire :lol:
6th act: Paul leaves to his chair and Mario still anger discussing and went to his chair and smashed his racket :o

I'm not defending Paul at all, bad behavior of him, he needs to madure in this aspect but I'm surprised for his behavior, he's a nice guy.

And I'm a Mario supporter too ;)

At least it was resolved minutes later :angel:
exactly what I saw
but here's what I saw as well:

I just saw a few headlights
The both commentators was like: "So Ancic won and.... (suspense silenece here).... what is going on there?? Is he pushing the guy?? Oww, look the umpire"

what I saw was.... the other guy went to the umpire, said something that I didnt heard, then Ancic was happy and goes there, tried to shke hand, the guy said something for him (probably something like: u mother is a hooker, 'cause Mario really got pissed) then Mario pushed him, he pushed Mario, the judge went down, came between those 2, Mario pushed him (was funny, the judge was so litle compared to Mario), then judge pushed both, and the last thing I saw was Mario raquet flying, didnt know for sure what he hit....

croat123
05-31-2006, 09:46 PM
even if mario pushed him first, does it matter? capdeville obviously said something to him first :o

AgassiDomination
05-31-2006, 09:46 PM
Oh blame both of them if its such a big deal. :rolleyes:

Corey Feldman
05-31-2006, 09:57 PM
good to see some 'passion' after tennis matches again :boxing: :lol:
i bet capdeville is a chilean football hooligan :rolleyes:
:p

chicky841
05-31-2006, 09:59 PM
Damn...videos anyone?

s.m.
05-31-2006, 10:10 PM
its not all height and weight!... Paul has the garra and will eventually prevail in the fight jejejeje... All that matters is that Ancic started the pushing and then both acted stupid... croatians stop being biased..

capdeville was acting like a piece of shit ( which he is btw ) trough the whole match, and after mario wanted to shake hands he insulted him

and you are the one who´s biased
only biased person would twist the facts and make both persons equally responsible
but that is your problem

s.m.
05-31-2006, 10:16 PM
mario in croatian newspapers

´This is the worst behaviour i have ever seen in my career. The stuff he did on court. At the end of the match he started to talk some things about me, I just lost it˝

Carito_90
05-31-2006, 10:17 PM
Wow. Now I wanna see it! Damn. :lol:

s.m.
05-31-2006, 10:20 PM
.You are 100% unbiased as most of the croats here... :rolleyes:

you are biased based on the fact that you are from the same continent like capdeville
so shut up
you have no right to talk about this
you can´t be wright because you are biased
psssssssssssssssst

Caralimon
05-31-2006, 10:22 PM
''I was complaining with the umpire, not against Ancic because, in my opinion, the linesman had made several mistakes during the match'' said Capdeville

''At the end of the match I was talking to the umpire and Ancic, suddenly, said: ''What are you doing? You've been whining the whole match!'' then he pushed me, that surprisingly. I was going to shake his hand, and I found myself related to all this thing. I told him, ''What are you doing?''. It was an unpleasant ending'' said the chilean.

''I didn't talk to him in the dressing room, I think it was just a situation of the match. I repite, it wasn't against Ancic'' concluded

http://www.emol.com/noticias/deportes/detalle/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=220777

Conita
05-31-2006, 10:22 PM
they were both idiots i hope they both get fined
whoever started is a bit irrelevant since neither of them stop it
soo shame on them 2!


cant quite belive it. both of them seem like pretty cool guys generally speaking

s.m.
05-31-2006, 10:24 PM
good to see some 'passion' after tennis matches again :boxing: :lol:


too bad mario didn´t deck him

FelipeMIA89
05-31-2006, 10:25 PM
mario in croatian newspapers

´This is the worst behaviour i have ever seen in my career. The stuff he did on court. At the end of the match he started to talk some things about me, I just lost it˝

WOOOOOW!! ok can i please see the link of the newspaper online... how can u say that capdeville is a piece of shit....arguing for calls dosent make people be a piece of shit.... if he sucks that bad how come hes playing in the 2nd round of Roland Garros.. i think u should clarify what u said...

FelipeMIA89
05-31-2006, 10:27 PM
too bad mario didn´t deck him

THANK GOD it didint get really bad... o yea by the way I dont think that it would of been all mario in the fight.. jejejeje...

AgassiDomination
05-31-2006, 10:32 PM
they were both idiots i hope they both get fined
whoever started is a bit irrelevant since neither of them stop it
soo shame on them 2!


cant quite belive it. both of them seem like pretty cool guys generally speaking
It's called being a man! :cool:

Carito_90
05-31-2006, 10:33 PM
There are no babies involved, 'he started' is not an excuse. There are other ways of solving this. Both of them acted in an inappropriate manner, and that's it.

s.m.
05-31-2006, 10:34 PM
WOOOOOW!! ok can i please see the link of the newspaper online...


lol
the link thing again

here you go
just let me now if you want a translation of something

http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/sports/more/562651/index.do





how can u say that capdeville is a piece of shit....arguing for calls dosent make people be a piece of shit.... if he sucks that bad how come hes playing in the 2nd round of Roland Garros.. i think u should clarify what u said...


1. he insulted the umpire several times during the match
2. he insulted ančić on the handshake
3. he threw balls at ball kids
4. his antics throughout the match

+alonso
05-31-2006, 10:34 PM
Yeah right. And I am a better tennis player then Federer :rolleyes:

Have you seen the match? The IDIOT (Capdeville) complained ALL THE MATCH and protested on EVERY doubtful point. And he refused to give the hand to Mario at the end. He must be fined. Fined HIGHLY! :mad:

Well, today he wasn't so nice. He was so IRRITATING that is so hard to explain to someone that haven't seen the match. I've seen him for the first time in my life, and I hope it will also be the last! :mad:


Hey, Get a life, Is way more interesting instead of telling bs against Paul, Not even Mario (Who was actually the one who're involved) would say something like the things you are saying
:rolleyes:

+alonso
05-31-2006, 10:38 PM
and Yeah, It was such a stupid thing
:o!
Let's hope both feel ashamed!

AgassiDomination
05-31-2006, 10:40 PM
There are no babies involved, 'he started' is not an excuse. There are other ways of solving this. Both of them acted in an inappropriate manner, and that's it.
Let me explain to you how the male mind works with one word, pride. Now both of them got their pride hit. Ancic by not getting his handshake reciprocated and Paul for losing (I'm guessing this is why he got pissed, if not insert reason here). And how does your average man resolve issues? In the most primative way possible, with violence. It was completely appropriate for them to settle their differences like morons! :p

breakingthehabit
05-31-2006, 10:41 PM
* SIGH * So young, so angry. Damn the rap music.

NicoFan
05-31-2006, 10:42 PM
It's called being a man! :cool:

Yup.

:lol:

JMG
05-31-2006, 10:43 PM
If I had seen this I'm sure I would have enjoyed it.

Bring on Capdeville vs Koellerer :rocker2:

shotgun
05-31-2006, 11:07 PM
Come on, surely someone has a video of the incident :confused:

*Viva Chile*
05-31-2006, 11:08 PM
If I had seen this I'm sure I would have enjoyed it.

Bring on Capdeville vs Koellerer :rocker2:
maybe in a challenger soon :lol:

Caralimon
06-01-2006, 12:31 AM
The video, hope you enjoy it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 12:33 AM
you are biased based on the fact that you are from the same continent like capdeville
so shut up
you have no right to talk about this
you can´t be wright because you are biased
psssssssssssssssst
Ok, so let's get some stuff straight...First: Why are you calling Capdeville a piece of shit? DO you know him? Second: Why do I have NO right to talk about this? Who grants the right to post in this forum? :o Third: I'm not biased, I'm from Venezuela! and not from Chile we have nothing to do with each other, matter of fact I like Mario's game and I like him as a person I was just correcting the other guy (a croat) who said Capdeville attacked Mario, and that is not what happened. They were both acting like children and I said before that Capdeville said something first to Mario (probably insulted him) and then Mario pushed him. That was it! There's no need to get feelings involved here ;)

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 12:41 AM
The video, hope you enjoy it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
Ok thanks buddy....now you judge! Was I right or the Croats :rolleyes: ?

What Capdeville is saying is that he was complaining to the Ref and then Ancic came and told him to stop whining and to shut up, he also said that he has nothing against Ancic and that he played the better match... I don't know if this is right or not. Then Ancic doesn't wanna talk about the incident so I don't know where this other guy came up with that stuff Mario said :confused:

chicky841
06-01-2006, 12:41 AM
The video, hope you enjoy it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw


Thank you and I did. :D

disturb3d
06-01-2006, 12:46 AM
Mario is trash.
Shoves Paul, then has the nerve to call him out on bad behaviour.

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 12:53 AM
First, that ball didnt looks like it bounced twice, atleast from that video, also it was right in front of the umpire, and Paul should get a beating for being a little bitch.

now before you say something about ancic is croatian, just because im a Ljubicic fan,. does not make me Croatian and ps. im not a fan of Ancic :kiss:

*Viva Chile*
06-01-2006, 12:55 AM
you are biased based on the fact that you are from the same continent like capdeville
so shut up
you have no right to talk about this
you can´t be wright because you are biased
psssssssssssssssst
this is like you are supporting Djokovic or Tipsarevic just because Serbia is next to Croatia :rolleyes: (without considering that you were in war years ago) a really stupid comment :o

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 12:56 AM
First, that ball didnt looks like it bounced twice, atleast from that video, also it was right in front of the umpire, and Paul should get a beating for being a little bitch.

now before you say something about ancic is croatian, just because im a Ljubicic fan,. does not make me Croatian and ps. im not a fan of Ancic :kiss:
Wow, you are really objective. So if Capdeville deserves a beating what does Kiefer deserves? He can complain everything he wants but at least he didn't go on to shove the other guy :(

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 12:59 AM
Wow, you are really objective. So if Capdeville deserves a beating what does Kiefer deserves? He can complain everything he wants but at least he didn't go on to shove the other guy :(

Kiefer is a tool (sorry Neely :smooch: )

i saw Ancic shove Capdeville after Ancic tryed to shake his hand and Capdeville pushing it away :)

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 12:59 AM
Wow, you are really objective. So if Capdeville deserves a beating what does Kiefer deserves? He can complain everything he wants but at least he didn't go on to shove the other guy :(

Kiefer is a tool (sorry Neely :smooch: )

i saw Ancic shove Capdeville after Ancic tryed to shake his hand and Capdeville pushing it away :)

Magenta
06-01-2006, 01:00 AM
Stop it people! You miss the whole point of this fight;

Mario looks even hotter when he's angry :D

smucav
06-01-2006, 01:03 AM
http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=15414&bannerregion=Ancic By Decision
By Tennis Week
05/31/2006

There were four service breaks in today's match between Mario Ancic and Paul Capdeville, but the most important break may have come at the conclusion of the match courtesy of chair umpire Roland Herfel.

When the second-round match concluded it nearly erupted into a contentious clash as Capdeville shoved Ancic twice. Ancic threw down his racquet and appeared poised to clench his fists and throw down period, but before the conflict could escalate into a brawl, chair umpire Herfel quickly climbed down onto the court and separated the would-be combatants concluding the shoving match.

The exact cause of the conflict remains uncertain, but perhaps Capdeville felt Ancic either cleared the net with a double-hit or prematurely celebrated the end of the match and erupted with a physical response.

On match point, Capdeville could not catch up to an Ancic drop shot and as the 12th-seeded Ancic began to walk toward his court-side seat Capdeville went right after the 6-foot-5 Croatian like a hockey player objecting to a particularly lethal check. Ancic threw his racquet to the ground and appeared ready for action, but before you could utter Michael Buffer's often-quoted call to arms — "let's get ready to rumble" — Herfel quickly quieted the the situation by breaking up the two players before any punches were thrown.

The 12th-seeded Ancic will play Spain's Albert Montanes for a place in the round of 16. The 105th-ranked Montanes squandered a two-set lead, but still survived with a 7-5, 6-1, 3-6, 2-6, 6-4 victory over Italy's Stefano Galvini. Ancic, who has bowed out in the Roland Garrous third round in each of the past two years, is bidding to make his first fourth-round appearance at the French Open.

Johnny Groove
06-01-2006, 01:04 AM
* SIGH * So young, so angry. Damn the rap music.

I think that's the first Dr. Dolittle 2 reference I've ever seen on a message board. well done :yeah:

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 01:04 AM
Kiefer is a tool (sorry Neely :smooch: )

i saw Ancic shove Capdeville after Ancic tryed to shake his hand and Capdeville pushing it away :)

I never saw Ancic trying to shake his hand, when you give a handshake you face the other person and extend your hand at waist high....He just turned and then said something and pushed him in the shoulder and then in the chest....Now jump on me and tell me I'm wrong :)

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 01:05 AM
I never saw Ancic trying to shake his hand, when you give a handshake you face the other person and extend your hand at waist high....He just turned and then said something and pushed him in the shoulder and then in the chest....Now jump on me and tell me I'm wrong :)

you are WRONG :) i see plently of handshakes where players just look at the umpire at same time as they shake.

chicky841
06-01-2006, 01:09 AM
Stop it people! You miss the whole point of this fight;

Mario looks even hotter when he's angry :D

:lol: omg i love it..i was so thinkin that too

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 01:10 AM
and that whole waist high is BS, because most players would be shaking the NET, well unless you are Karlovic and your waist is at most peoples chest.

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 01:10 AM
and that whole waist high is BS, because most players would be shaking the NET, well unless you are Karlovic and your waist is at most peoples chest.

*Viva Chile*
06-01-2006, 01:12 AM
and that whole waist high is BS, because most players would be shaking the NET, well unless you are Karlovic and your waist is at most peoples chest.
:rolls:

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 01:17 AM
and that whole waist high is BS, because most players would be shaking the NET, well unless you are Karlovic and your waist is at most peoples chest.
:o The net is 3 feet high at the center so a hand shake around waist high is over 3 feet, if you didn;t know your waist is over your hips, so a rough calculation if you are around 5'10 your waist is over the net...


EDIT: I just measured and my waist stands at 3 feet 8 inches, that would be 8 inches over the center of the net and I'm 5 10 and a half, so even Ollie Rochus's waist is over the net

ufokart
06-01-2006, 01:19 AM
After seeing the video i really saw no intent of a handshake on Ancic's part, but i could be mistaken.
I really don't give much of a damn about this incident but if somebody is going to get a fine for this fight, both players should get it for displaying such a childish and inmature attitude.

Jakeev
06-01-2006, 01:25 AM
Any post-match interviews on either player?

FelipeMIA89
06-01-2006, 01:30 AM
ANCIC NEVER INTENDED ON HANDSHAKING CAPDEVILLES HAND!! Ancic and Capdeville were very funny today..

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 01:34 AM
ANCIC NEVER INTENDED ON HANDSHAKING CAPDEVILLES HAND!! Ancic and Capdeville were very funny today..


Well maybe to the croats that is a handshake... ;) I ask any croat out here if that is the way you give a handshake in your country :confused: (no sarcasm intended on this post)

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 01:37 AM
i dont do many handshakes, i go for kisses with girls and f guys. i dont need to be talking to guys :rolls:

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 01:39 AM
:o The net is 3 feet high at the center so a hand shake around waist high is over 3 feet, if you didn;t know your waist is over your hips, so a rough calculation if you are around 5'10 your waist is over the net...


EDIT: I just measured and my waist stands at 3 feet 8 inches, that would be 8 inches over the center of the net and I'm 5 10 and a half, so even Ollie Rochus's waist is over the net

nice work, maybe you should go measure up all the ATP players to see the proper level of the after match handshake, and if they do not meet the set level. they shall be punished with a 3 week suspension and must take Handshake 101

:worship:

alelysafina
06-01-2006, 01:40 AM
Stop it people! You miss the whole point of this fight;

Mario looks even hotter when he's angry :D

SO TRUE!! Mario was :drool:

flip_fan
06-01-2006, 01:42 AM
Is it just me who found this funny? ... its not good for the sport for guys to get into a fight after a match, but c'mon that effort was embarrassing! They both looked like two children chucking a hissy fit... hardly the macho biff we see in other sports... i dont see what all the fuss is about.

FelipeMIA89
06-01-2006, 01:49 AM
case closed!!!! for me... hope they dont have big fines for this stupid fight.

*Viva Chile*
06-01-2006, 01:53 AM
Any post-match interviews on either player?
Capdeville: “He said to me that I cried all the entire match"

http://www.deportivo.cl/medio/articulo/0,0,3308_5832_214422334,00.html

- internet translation -

Paul Capdeville talked about the incident with Croatian Mario Ancic, with whom braided itself to pushes once he fell before the European in the second round of Roland Garros. Once the match finalized, the third chilean racket protested to the chair umpire, before which he appeared his opponent, who said some words to him after which they were begun to push. “My plea was against the umpire, not against Ancic because the chair umpire, from my point of view, had committed several errors during the match”, began analyzing Capdeville. “At the end of the match, I was speaking with the umpire and Ancic, suddenly, said to me: What you are doing? You have gone crying throughout the encounter and he pushed me. I was going to shake the hand to him and I was that yet”. In any case, the Chilean did not want to soil with this episode his good starting of year: “It was a disagreeable end, an episode that does not count for my clay season which, I think, has been very good”. Consulted on the possibility of speaking with the Croatian, he assured: “No. I believe that the problem was settled on the court, but I repeat that I didn't have anything against him but with the chair umpire”.


I'm not totally in agreement with Paul, but he said this.

its.like.that
06-01-2006, 01:56 AM
too bad mario didn´t deck him

Croats fight like pussies, the Chilean would have smashed him.

buddyholly
06-01-2006, 01:58 AM
OK he said the same thing that I said and the Croat still doesn't believe, I'm not trying to defend anyone but Ancic was the one who pushed Capdeville not Capdeville to Mario :( I'm not a liar

ESPN said Ancic pushed Capdeville AFTER Capdeville had slapped away Ancic's offered hand instead of shaking it.
So there seems to be no getting away from the fact that in words and actions Capdeville was the guilty one.
In any case, Capdeville was lucky that the umpire got between them otherwise it seemed that tomorrows headline would be ''ANCIC KNOCKS OUT CAPDEVILLE AT RG - AND WINS HIS MATCH''.

_pyromatic
06-01-2006, 01:58 AM
It looked to me like Mario turned to shake his hand but Capdeville was still arguing and had his hands up so Mario pushed him. But it happened too fast to be sure. :shrug: Whatever happened, it was funny. :lol: I love when they get bitchy.

its.like.that
06-01-2006, 02:02 AM
OMG, did you change the U with an A, wow you're so clever

This coming from a guy who can't even spell S-E-I-N-F-E-L-D.

:lol:

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 02:03 AM
Croats fight like pussies, the Chilean would have smashed him.

let me guess, knowledge comes from you talking to Ivan at AO this year

:retard:

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 02:04 AM
This coming from a guy who can't even spell S-E-I-N-F-E-L-D.

:lol:

by the way there is NO . after Its or like or that :retard:

buddyholly
06-01-2006, 02:06 AM
And there should be an apostrophe between t and s.

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 02:07 AM
And there should be an apostrophe between t and s.

Why did you start a sentence with and?

buddyholly
06-01-2006, 02:13 AM
I was finishing the one you started, so the mistake was maybe in the capital A.

njnetswill
06-01-2006, 02:19 AM
I was surprised at what Ancic's voice sounds like.

Juanquis.Angel
06-01-2006, 02:20 AM
Was it just my mistake, or did anyone else notice that ESPN had labeled the players wrong in the video? I had to rewind many, many times to figure out who was who.

I knew that Ancic had won, but since they labeled wrong, I was confused!

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 02:22 AM
ESPN said Ancic pushed Capdeville AFTER Capdeville had slapped away Ancic's offered hand instead of shaking it.
So there seems to be no getting away from the fact that in words and actions Capdeville was the guilty one.
In any case, Capdeville was lucky that the umpire got between them otherwise it seemed that tomorrows headline would be ''ANCIC KNOCKS OUT CAPDEVILLE AT RG - AND WINS HIS MATCH''.
I don't care what ESPN said, you have the video there and you can judge from yourself i Didn't see when Capdeville slapped away the hand, watch the video and tell me if you can see what you are saying because I can't...Who gives a handshake shoulder-height...maybe a pad in the shoulder or a high five and I don't think Mario was trying to do any of those two :o

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 02:24 AM
I was finishing the one you started, so the mistake was maybe in the capital A.
:lol: :yeah:

shotgun
06-01-2006, 02:41 AM
The video, hope you enjoy it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw

Thanks for that. :worship:

What happened is pretty clear to me:

- The match ended and Capdeville went directly to the umpire to complain.
- Ancic went to the umpire chair and started mocking Capdeville because of his behaviour and refused the handshake, shaking only the umpire's hand.
- Right after that, Capdeville tried to shake Ancic's hand, but Ancic turned abruptly and pushed Capdeville's hand away, and then they started pushing each other.
- The umpire came down and held Capdeville and Ancic pushed the umpire. :confused:
- After they were definitely separated, Ancic smashed his racquet.

World Beater
06-01-2006, 03:10 AM
i like ancic. but if one looks at the video carefully, it seems as though ancic was the brat. Its too hard to tell since we dont know what was said.

one thing is clear, ancic did not offer his hand to capdeville only shaking the umpire's.

zicofirol
06-01-2006, 03:17 AM
It was definately Ancic who slapped Capdeville's hand first, then the pushing started.

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 03:34 AM
It was definately Ancic who slapped Capdeville's hand first, then the pushing started.

Yeah but even with the video there some people think Capdeville started the whole thing and he's a piece of shit :o Imagine what the world would be like if the press was conducted by these guys...ohh well the press already is corrupted :sad:

sparkus8
06-01-2006, 04:11 AM
All I can say after watching that video is handbags at 10 paces!!

Federerhingis
06-01-2006, 04:14 AM
I am sorry but why did this incident take place? Did Ancic really cause all this stir? I was totally confused I was like what? Instead of a handshake he almost got a fist in his face. Yikes.

robrulz5
06-01-2006, 05:18 AM
That was very funny. Stupidity at it's best on both parts.

MariaV
06-01-2006, 07:13 AM
Ancic is indeed hot when angry. :lick:

And gawd, it's hilarious how people can watch the same exact video clip and come up with 584 different opinions. Both players have to accept some degree of fault - they both could have behaved better, but whatever. :zzz:
I must agree with you. On Mario's hotness part too. :lol: Both guys were a bit agitated I guess.

Action Jackson
06-01-2006, 07:43 AM
More on court agro will bring the people back to the tennis.

its.like.that
06-01-2006, 08:26 AM
And there should be an apostrophe between t and s.

Your outstanding grey matter is in a world of its own.

;)

kasia
06-01-2006, 10:30 AM
I haven't seen the match...but I guess it must have been really funny.Two tennis players fighting on the court<lol> And who has carried the day?:) I keep wondering what did Capdeville say to Mario if he went off the deep end...I hope that Paul will be fined for his behaviour.Anyway,there's no need to talk about it like all the time.Mario's won-and that's what matters;)

almouchie
06-01-2006, 11:01 AM
what an ending it must have been
thou nothing shown on eurosport highlights
never a good reaction to burst & argue/fight with the opponent
Ancic was not at fault but got pissed when teh chilain refused to shake hands
bad loser, thou young will learn
he should be fined so he can learn & grow up quickly

Chileno
06-01-2006, 11:18 AM
Both should be fined, Ancic was no white knight out there either. I was disapointed by both players.

FelipeMIA89
06-01-2006, 11:23 AM
actually both should be fined.. its so funny how people can say to fine capdeville and saying nothing about Ancics fault.. as a matter of fact Ancic pushed the umpire jejejeje.

Kat!
06-01-2006, 11:39 AM
thought I'd throw in my 0.00002 cents - yes I agree Mario is rather hot when he's throwing a hissy fit, and I found the whole incident quite amusing. Thanks for the video! ;)

Billabong
06-01-2006, 12:40 PM
Both players were fined 3000 USD ;)

Uriel
06-01-2006, 12:54 PM
Both players were fined 3000 USD ;)

damn you :) i wanted to say it first :devil:

uNIVERSE mAN
06-01-2006, 01:47 PM
I saw it.... a very bad ending of a very long match full of umpire errors... I understand why Capdeville was mad but to try to attack Ancic because of it is just idiotic.... Although this is very bad behaviour I hope Capdeville won't be fined a lot because he is a young player and he did played ok but he let his anger get to him...

you forgot to finish your sentence, ....because he is a young player (and is broke)...

Billabong
06-01-2006, 01:51 PM
damn you :) i wanted to say it first :devil:


:angel:

s.m.
06-01-2006, 01:54 PM
First: Why are you calling Capdeville a piece of shit? DO you know him?


now i do obviously
and also i would like to add that he´s a lunatic
he should be commited in some institution


Second: Why do I have NO right to talk about this? Who grants the right to post in this forum? :o


i was being sarcastic
every croat is biased?
so you must be as well



I was just correcting the other guy (a croat) who said Capdeville attacked Mario, and that is not what happened.


capdeville abused every person on that court and then insulted him
he didn´t attack him first?
so f***** what
he is responsible for his behavior and every man has his breaking point
personally i would have hit him in the face

s.m.
06-01-2006, 01:55 PM
this is like you are supporting Djokovic or Tipsarevic just because Serbia is next to Croatia :rolleyes: (without considering that you were in war years ago) a really stupid comment :o

sarcastic comment
but you obviously need the smiley to get it
next time i will draw it for you :wavey:

s.m.
06-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Croats fight like pussies, the Chilean would have smashed him.

what a pathetic attempt
go back into the hole, you mouse

s.m.
06-01-2006, 02:07 PM
you have to watch the whole match to get the context
scuffle alone means nothing
watch the whole match, then comment

with the same fines atp is sending a message that behaviour like capdeville´s is welcomed
i am only suprised that they didn´t protect the umprie
so you can swing a racquet at him, insult him, verbally abuse him etc.
mind you, that umprie deserved all of that because he should have thrown that clown out of the match and nothing would happened later
most of the blame should go to the umpire

Xristos
06-01-2006, 02:08 PM
Anyone have a vid of the fight?

Pluto2
06-01-2006, 02:10 PM
I saw some parts of the match in Paris, and it was (also in the public) quite a contested match. Looked sometimes a bit like a Davis Cup match. But I didn't saw any incident during the match. Maybe they already had a fight or something like that in the past?

Kat!
06-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Anyone have a vid of the fight?


(posted earlier in the thread - so it's not mine)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw

croat123
06-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Thanks for that. :worship:

What happened is pretty clear to me:

- The match ended and Capdeville went directly to the umpire to complain.
- Ancic went to the umpire chair and started mocking Capdeville because of his behaviour and refused the handshake, shaking only the umpire's hand.
- Right after that, Capdeville tried to shake Ancic's hand, but Ancic turned abruptly and pushed Capdeville's hand away, and then they started pushing each other.
- The umpire came down and held Capdeville and Ancic pushed the umpire. :confused:
- After they were definitely separated, Ancic smashed his racquet.
umm...ancic did shake capdevilles hand :o capdeville tried to avoid shaking mario's

its.like.that
06-01-2006, 02:17 PM
what a pathetic attempt
go back into the hole, you mouse

haven't you ever seen a croat get the crap smacked out of them?

for some reason, they just don't know how to fight.

:shrug:

Jadranka
06-01-2006, 02:43 PM
LOL, i haven't seen this before. WAS THAT MARIO? hehe, lol

I know, that Capdeville and Mario must pay 3000 dollar :o

Capdeville :( :( :(

Jadranka
06-01-2006, 02:48 PM
AAAAAND ....

Mario looks sooo hot when he's angry :p :drool: :drool:

Kristen
06-01-2006, 02:49 PM
I stood up and got quite close to the television when I saw it. I saw the Adidas shirt and thought it might have been a uhh Argie til I remembered he's not there. Then when the news showed the story I was stunned to see it involved Mario. I forget that he's not a kid anymore, so I was quite stunned. Had a good chuckle when he pushed the umpire though. Charming behaviour by both men. With Dani not around, someone has to do it :shrug::lol:

shotgun
06-01-2006, 02:53 PM
umm...ancic did shake capdevilles hand :o capdeville tried to avoid shaking mario's

:confused:

I watched the video over and over and I noticed that there wasn't any handshake between the two players. Ancic is the one who pushes Capdeville's hand away when the Chilean is apparently going for the handshake.

Xristos
06-01-2006, 02:57 PM
(posted earlier in the thread - so it's not mine)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw
Thanks for the link.

alfonsojose
06-01-2006, 03:02 PM
:eek: Well, Anic refused to shaek hands first. So very, very stupid from Ancic, too :o

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-01-2006, 03:36 PM
I saw the video finally.Both should be fined. :o
This video is an evidence!What I saw is Mario pushed Paul away first,but I'm not sure if Paul said something bad to Mario before. :shrug:

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Capdeville abused every person on that court and then insulted him
he didn´t attack him first?
so f***** what
he is responsible for his behavior and every man has his breaking point
personally i would have hit him in the face

Have you reached your potential already or you are going to come out with something more amusing one of these days?
I don't know what kind of problems you have guy, you just can't face the fact that Mario never went on to shake his hand and he pushed him first. I don't care who did I'm just saying what happened but obviously your pride got hurt wehen your guy behaved bad as well as the chilean. Now he abused every person in the court, just for curiosity... Did he shocked anyone? :D (If you don't know what a "shock" is just ask ;) )

fenomeno2111
06-01-2006, 03:55 PM
nice work, maybe you should go measure up all the ATP players to see the proper level of the after match handshake, and if they do not meet the set level. they shall be punished with a 3 week suspension and must take Handshake 101

:worship:
Nice one :D
But I was the one who was right over that stupid discussion and then you say you NEVER lose, the only circumstance when you are not going to lose is when argue with yourself or when you play against Xistros.

Frederick16
06-01-2006, 04:11 PM
i was there! what a arse that capdeville!! he is totally mad!!!

Ales_Alessandra
06-01-2006, 05:02 PM
I saw it only today!!! :bolt:

Frederick16
06-01-2006, 05:40 PM
already in the first set capdeville was at war with Herfel... Very strange guy

DDrago2
06-01-2006, 05:59 PM
What are you guys talking about?? Ancic was not mad but SCARED, that crazy chilean would have beaten him up right there if the umprie didn't show up :lol: :smash:

It is also comical how Ancic pushed the umpire. Only capdeville deserved to be fined I think!

It was a funny accident :D

tangerine_dream
06-01-2006, 06:57 PM
even if mario pushed him first, does it matter? capdeville obviously said something to him first :o
You guys are like kiddies in the playground during recess: *finger point* "He started it!"

In the corner, both of you (Paul and Mario).

ufokart
06-01-2006, 07:01 PM
even if mario pushed him first, does it matter? capdeville obviously said something to him first

It doesn't matter who started it, they behaved like spoiled kids and at their age they really behaved like assholes.
Both were at fault and it's all right that both and not one of them were fined.

JMG
06-01-2006, 07:07 PM
I'm quite disappointed, Ancic threw his raquet like a pussy. Has he ever watched Gaudio or Safin? :rolleyes:

scoobs
06-01-2006, 07:54 PM
Both were fined $3,000 and I think that's fair - it looked like six of one, half a dozen of the other to me.

tangerine_dream
06-01-2006, 09:15 PM
I love YouTube :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw

El Legenda
06-01-2006, 09:38 PM
I love YouTube :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bm64hPiZLw

little late there tangy lady, go back few pages, the person who put it on You Tube posted it :smooch:

tangerine_dream
06-01-2006, 09:48 PM
little late there tangy lady, go back few pages, the person who put it on You Tube posted it :smooch:
Well now people won't have to go back several pages to find the link, will they? :p

Frederick16
06-02-2006, 06:15 AM
the link doesnt work for me

s.m.
06-06-2006, 11:27 AM
the link doesnt work for me

try this

http://rapidshare.de/files/21886465/Ancic_-_Capedeville_sukob.3gp.html