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(3) Nalbandian def. Gasquet 6-2, 3-6, 7-5, 6-0

Björki
05-31-2006, 05:53 PM
:woohoo: well done Daveeed :D

fenomeno2111
05-31-2006, 05:55 PM
Congrats Nalbo!!! Ok from David just what needed to be done Gasquet was more error prone than Srichapan on clay :o

silverwhite
05-31-2006, 05:56 PM
It seems that he enjoys the bagels that Nalby bakes. This is the third one already after Monte-Carlo and Wimbledon! :tape:

Well done, David! :yeah:

LLeytonRules
05-31-2006, 05:58 PM
Nice job by David, i had him in 4 sets as well.Richard still not ready for the big time, maybe he will make some noise in wimbledon.

Flibbertigibbet
05-31-2006, 05:58 PM
Once Gasquet lost the third set, I could just tell it was a gone case. Couldn't capitalize on the early game points in the fourth either. At least he can say he's won a set off Nalbandian now!

Congratulations to Nalbandian, though, now get to the semis!

richie21
05-31-2006, 06:00 PM
Nice job by David, i had him in 4 sets as well.Richard still not ready for the big time, maybe he will make some noise in wimbledon.

Richie only needs one thing at the moment,to stay injury free for a LONG period.......then he'll be ready for the big time,mark my words ;)

silverwhite
05-31-2006, 06:02 PM
Richie only needs one thing at the moment,to stay injury free for a LONG period.......then he'll be ready for the big time,mark my words ;)

Erm, no. That collapse after getting broken back in the third was horrible. He has plenty to learn mentally as well. :tape:

The Daviator
05-31-2006, 06:04 PM
David :yeah:

Always saves his best for the Slams...

Bilbo
05-31-2006, 06:05 PM
expected win by nalbandian :yeah:

vincayou
05-31-2006, 06:06 PM
Erm, no. That collapse after getting broken back in the third was horrible. He has plenty to learn mentally as well. :tape:

I wonder if he EVER came back from such a situation (one or 2 breaks in the last set) once in his professional life.

I can't remember

morningglory
05-31-2006, 06:07 PM
always nice to see that rude French crowd silenced :o I pity Richard tho...

gogo_guga
05-31-2006, 06:07 PM
Erm, no. That collapse after getting broken back in the third was horrible. He has plenty to learn mentally as well. :tape:

That's the point of being injury free darling: being able to play week in and week out therefore becoming mentally tough.

silverwhite
05-31-2006, 06:10 PM
That's the point of being injury free darling: being able to play week in and week out therefore becoming mentally tough.

He was playing regularly in the middle of last year. Still collapsed, gave up and ate the bagel at Wimbledon...

Merton
05-31-2006, 06:10 PM
Nalbandian won as expected, it is nice to see Richard back after his injury problems.

vincayou
05-31-2006, 06:12 PM
That was close though. David was very nervous in the 3rd and Richard had the momentum. 0-40 at 4-4... Well saved. Then Richard handed him the set on a plate.

Then he collapsed, but David wasn't missing anything

Viken01
05-31-2006, 06:15 PM
well played gasquet, and CONGRAT DAVID !!! VAMOS !!!!!!!!!! :D :yeah:

DDrago2
05-31-2006, 06:18 PM
I see Gasquet as over-rated He will never be among favourites for any grand slam Only a trouble-maker for the top players

Unless he changes something dramaticaly

Argenbrit
05-31-2006, 06:18 PM
Well done, David! :worship:

I felt sorry for Rich, though. I like him.

Ten_Isse_Fan
05-31-2006, 06:20 PM
Very very disappointed in Gasquet. He didn't make a single effort after that third set. :(

justClaudia
05-31-2006, 06:34 PM
:banana:

*julie*
05-31-2006, 06:40 PM
It seems that he enjoys the bagels that Nalby bakes. This is the third one already after Monte-Carlo and Wimbledon! :tape:


It's is becoming a habit against Nalby...
Well, at least he won a set this time. :rolleyes:

mickymouse
05-31-2006, 06:45 PM
I expected Gasquet to lose after he lost that tight third set but it was disappointing to see the way he folded in the fourth.

The Undertaker
05-31-2006, 06:46 PM
Gasquet is little shit, why he can`t fight, why he losses any hope when is down. He will never fullfil his potential by playing like that, no matter about injuries.

madmanfool
05-31-2006, 07:02 PM
You know what, i think David did catch a cold. He was coughing all the time, and spitting on the gravel.

marifline
05-31-2006, 07:17 PM
Well I'm not so sad because Richard did a good match even if he was a vit disapointing in the end..but I think he will do good on grass...He can play well again, it's just a matter of matchs before he return to his real level

Breakaway
05-31-2006, 07:20 PM
Nalby :yeah:

musefanatic
05-31-2006, 07:25 PM
Well done David, Great win and match. Shame to see Gasquet go out but he didn't seem that match fit for it all but he still played some great points. :)

Allez
05-31-2006, 07:36 PM
Well at least Gasquet took at set off Nalbandiyawn and was close to grabbing the 3rd as well. But you just felt he needed to win that set to have any chance out there today. Once that went his focus and belief also went as usual. Lots of work required on the mental side of things. He's a glorious player to watch when he plays his tennis. However he is still a bit soft and juvenile. Not much fire there yet. Doesn't know how to win ugly.

stebs
05-31-2006, 07:42 PM
I found it irritating to listen to the commentators during this match. They kept on saying, "it is rare for someone with as weak a mind to ever be a champion these days". Surely they know about Roger Federer? Of course he doesn't have a weak mind anymore but he did and there's no reason Gasquet can't get better just as Fed did.

silverwhite
05-31-2006, 07:57 PM
I found it irritating to listen to the commentators during this match. They kept on saying, "it is rare for someone with as weak a mind to ever be a champion these days". Surely they know about Roger Federer? Of course he doesn't have a weak mind anymore but he did and there's no reason Gasquet can't get better just as Fed did.

They're right. And the worrying thing is that he hasn't shown any signs of improvement in that area.

asotgod
05-31-2006, 08:01 PM
Richard played pretty much the way Roger used to play. Go for big shots unnecessarily without understanding how valuable such a point is. There were just too many times he could have just tried to stay in the rallies before going for the big shot. Instead, he wanted to 'wow' the crowd. it will take some time for him but I think he will be understand these things mentally at most I believe in a year, and take things from there.

Congrats to Nalby. In all honesty, I have seen matches where Nalby is just unbeatable and that seemed to be the way this match started. Even the third set, Nalby found a way to bring down his level and Richard should have taken advantage but then Nalby upped his level, and then it was end of discussion right there. When Nalby is playing well like he is right now, it becomes a scary proposition for any of his opponents including Federer. And it seems as if he is finally getting his head together and believing that he ought to be in the big stage and win like the big guys which is nice to see, as Nalby has messed up way too much. Hopefully, he fulfills his end of the deal more often from now on.

Scotso
05-31-2006, 08:04 PM
Richard will get better as he ages, but I'm really disappointed with his effort level in the third. Not very admirable.

stebs
05-31-2006, 08:05 PM
They're right. And the worrying thing is that he hasn't shown any signs of improvement in that area.
He's still very young. I think he cares a lot more than it looks like and I think, although he'll never be rock solid mentally, that he will end up able to try for a full match.

Aleksa's Laydee
05-31-2006, 08:11 PM
Richard...a bagel...:sobbing:

DrJules
05-31-2006, 08:21 PM
I see Gasquet as over-rated He will never be among favourites for any grand slam Only a trouble-maker for the top players

Unless he changes something dramaticaly


He has spent most of the last 9 months with injury problems. It is difficult to fulfill promise when you suffer continual injury problems.

richie21
05-31-2006, 09:12 PM
He has spent most of the last 9 months with injury problems. It is difficult to fulfill promise when you suffer continual injury problems.

exactly
and those who are saying that he is weak mentally,i advise them to see his 5 setters win against Ljbucic in US OPEN last year with a serious injury in his elbow!

you don t do that if you are weak mentally

Conita
05-31-2006, 09:33 PM
AWWWW RICHIE :sad: :hug:
bless him he played soo well considering circumstances

and well done David :yeah:

Jennay
05-31-2006, 10:03 PM
David :bigclap: :banana:

Gasquet :sad: The end of the third and the fourth was completely :tape: :smash:

chicky841
05-31-2006, 10:40 PM
Good win for David..he played well and deserved to win. Im happy for him :bigclap:

Richard still needs to work on the mental and physical side of his game. Needs to be a bit more strategic. Like someone mentioned he needs to know how to play the points better. At least he took a set off David, but he could of showed alot more effort in the 4th. Another disappointing loss :(

azmad_88
06-01-2006, 12:52 AM
congrats nalby

World Beater
06-01-2006, 01:04 AM
Ha...federer was much more of a head case than gasquet is now. You can see that gasquet tries hard, but he does not use the best strategy. Fed sometimes used to tank matches.

Hopefully, with some improved fitness, gasquet will trust his legs more and will exercise more patience in the rallies. Gasquet is spoiled right now, and he feels he can hit any shot, which is true. He has a lot of firepower, much more than federer had when he was 19 years old.

The big change for federer was his strength and fitness level. Once those went up, he found himself in better position to hit every ball, and his play improved dramatically. Federer just has way more firepower than he did when he was 19. It looks as if gasquet has physically matures. If so, he should concentrate on getting fitter.

oneandonlyhsn
06-01-2006, 01:35 AM
Ha...federer was much more of a head case than gasquet is now. You can see that gasquet tries hard, but he does not use the best strategy. Fed sometimes used to tank matches.

Hopefully, with some improved fitness, gasquet will trust his legs more and will exercise more patience in the rallies. Gasquet is spoiled right now, and he feels he can hit any shot, which is true. He has a lot of firepower, much more than federer had when he was 19 years old.

The big change for federer was his strength and fitness level. Once those went up, he found himself in better position to hit every ball, and his play improved dramatically. Federer just has way more firepower than he did when he was 19. It looks as if gasquet has physically matures. If so, he should concentrate on getting fitter.

:yeah: Ditto, I've always said that the similarities btw Gasquet and Fed are uncanny. From the way they play, the flare and artistry they posses and the mental weakness too.

I fully believe Gasquet with his style of play not being too hard on his body will outlast a lot of the young grinders in his age bracket and have better results and longevity in his career then his peers.

silverwhite
06-01-2006, 04:22 AM
exactly
and those who are saying that he is weak mentally,i advise them to see his 5 setters win against Ljbucic in US OPEN last year with a serious injury in his elbow!

you don t do that if you are weak mentally

Ha...federer was much more of a head case than gasquet is now. You can see that gasquet tries hard, but he does not use the best strategy. Fed sometimes used to tank matches.


Erm. 2 consecutive DFs at 0-3* deuce and another at 0-5*.

Argenbrit
06-01-2006, 04:51 AM
The fact that Richard gave David the match with a double fault reminded me of the Coria-Ginepri match last year in the USO.

robrulz5
06-01-2006, 04:58 AM
Good to see David rolling on!!!

Puschkin
06-01-2006, 06:49 AM
Well at least Gasquet took at set off Nalbandiyawn and was close to grabbing the 3rd as well. But you just felt he needed to win that set to have any chance out there today. Once that went his focus and belief also went as usual. Lots of work required on the mental side of things. He's a glorious player to watch when he plays his tennis. However he is still a bit soft and juvenile. Not much fire there yet. Doesn't know how to win ugly.

:yeah: I could not agree more.

What really surprised me, was that the crowd deserted him. Chartrier was more than half empty and it was not even 8.00 pm, Richard with his low confidence level right now certainly would have benefitted from a full stadium....

World Beater
06-01-2006, 07:02 AM
Erm. 2 consecutive DFs at 0-3* deuce and another at 0-5*.

thats not a "head case" issue...he just lost confidence in the fourth set.

lets wait for gasquet to choke when up 2-0 5-3, serving for the match before we call him mentally weak.

World Beater
06-01-2006, 07:02 AM
:yeah: I could not agree more.

What really surprised me, was that the crowd deserted him. Chartrier was more than half empty and it was not even 8.00 pm, Richard with his low confidence level right now certainly would have benefitted from a full stadium....

the rain might be the cause for that

Puschkin
06-01-2006, 07:03 AM
the rain might be the cause for that

true, but still a poor excuse, no?

World Beater
06-01-2006, 07:09 AM
true, but still a poor excuse, no?

well, i remember two years ago at the usopen, federer met agassi in a rain soaked qf. Half the stadium was empty for such a marquee match.

Gasquet was a point away imo, from taking the third set. He is a confidence player and would have carried the momentum to the fourth, and maybe win the match.

anways, some progress was made. I suppose its better for the tournament that nalbandian is still in.

Puschkin
06-01-2006, 07:52 AM
Gasquet was a point away imo, from taking the third set. He is a confidence player and would have carried the momentum to the fourth, and maybe win the match.


That is exactly my point. Richard would have needed the crowd. I am not saying he would have won the match, though, but he would have done better in the forth...and it was his home crowd (having a reputation [rightly or wrongly] for being chauvinist) which deserted him.

silverwhite
06-01-2006, 08:15 AM
thats not a "head case" issue...he just lost confidence in the fourth set.

lets wait for gasquet to choke when up 2-0 5-3, serving for the match before we call him mentally weak.

It's still a mental weakness in the sense that he doesn't fight at all in situations like this. It's not uncommon to see him get bagelled or breadsticked in the last set played.

Puschkin
06-01-2006, 08:20 AM
It's still a mental weakness in the sense that he doesn't fight at all in situations like this. It's not uncommon to see him get bagelled or breadsticked in the last set played.

It is the same story all over. He seems to believe much less in himself and his tennis than others do.

silverwhite
06-01-2006, 08:23 AM
It is the same story all over. He seems to believe much less in himself and his tennis than others do.

He gives up way too easily. He admitted after the DC match against Safin that once he got broken in the fifth, he didn't believe he could win because Safin was serving bombs.

Action Jackson
06-01-2006, 08:26 AM
Never in doubt.

World Beater
06-01-2006, 08:52 AM
It's still a mental weakness in the sense that he doesn't fight at all in situations like this. It's not uncommon to see him get bagelled or breadsticked in the last set played.

he "fights" in his own way :p

he seems intent on going for broke way too often when the chips are down.

it might be because he isnt physically fit enough and therefore needs shorter points in the deciding set of many matches.

Puschkin
06-01-2006, 08:59 AM
he seems intent on going for broke way too often when the chips are down.

True, but I love the flamboyance if it when it works. :)

silverwhite
06-01-2006, 09:01 AM
he "fights" in his own way :p

he seems intent on going for broke way too often when the chips are down.

it might be because he isnt physically fit enough and therefore needs shorter points in the deciding set of many matches.

Actually, I think this match was an exception rather than the rule. He usually camps behind the baseline tentatively in such situations. :confused:

World Beater
06-01-2006, 09:03 AM
True, but I love the flamboyance if it when it works. :)

thats one thing i miss from roger...his best shotmaking is behind him imo.

he still hits good fh and good bh, but the unpredictability has vanished somewhat. Thats part of what made roger so brilliant when he was young. now he has become the proverbial percentage player ala agassi.

his tennis is still beautiful although not as brilliant.

World Beater
06-01-2006, 09:13 AM
Actually, I think this match was an exception rather than the rule. He usually camps behind the baseline tentatively in such situations. :confused:

it probably depends on the opponent. Gasquet respects nalbandian and probably feels like he needs to go for more whereas somebody ranked lower, he would be more willing to play it out.

But theories are useless with such characters. For one reason or another a switch may flip, and then gasquet becomes the next federer.

Puschkin
06-01-2006, 09:18 AM
For one reason or another a switch may flip, and then gasquet becomes the next federer.

I am waiting til 2008, then I might lose patience ;)

silverwhite
06-01-2006, 09:30 AM
it probably depends on the opponent. Gasquet respects nalbandian and probably feels like he needs to go for more whereas somebody ranked lower, he would be more willing to play it out.

But theories are useless with such characters. For one reason or another a switch may flip, and then gasquet becomes the next federer.

Not really. I've never seen him so impatient before, all those FHs in the net and those awful DFs. I guess he's still trying to find the right balance between aggression and overplaying.

Or the next Malisse.