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Federer @ Suzanne Lenglen

NyGeL
05-30-2006, 08:20 PM
Is this the first time that he don't play at Center Court since he is N°1?

scoobs
05-30-2006, 08:21 PM
No idea.

What's the big deal?

I'm sure Wimbledon sticks him on court 1 for the odd match when he's there, earlier on usually.

fenomeno2111
05-30-2006, 08:26 PM
That's weird...They also scheduled Mauresmo AND Grosjean on Lenglen.

scoobs
05-30-2006, 08:28 PM
Might seem wierd but they do need to give other seeds like Nalbandian etc a sniff of Chatrier as well in the early rounds.

silverwhite
05-30-2006, 08:33 PM
They probably want to rotate players around to attract crowds to both courts. Even the FFT darling Momo will play on SL tomorrow. :p

Skyward
05-30-2006, 08:34 PM
Is this the first time that he don't play at Center Court since he is N°1?

I recall he played on SL last year

Sjengster
05-30-2006, 08:42 PM
Nah, he was on Lenglen for his matches against Almagro and Moya last year (the latter did surprise me a little, but then Nadal v Grosjean was scheduled on Chatrier at the same time), and also for his first round against Vliegen in 2004. Plus he was on Court 1 at Wimbledon for his matches against Falla and Karlovic in 2004, then his second round versus Minar and QF versus Gonzalez last year. These two seem to be the only Slams that sometimes relegate the top two players to the second court, although Federer said he didn't mind that at Wimbledon last year. Outside those two events, the last time I can recall him not playing on centre court at a tournament was Cincy 03 against Nalbandian, which was put out on Grandstand.

R.Federer
05-30-2006, 09:00 PM
SL is a show court, no embarrassment playing there
Its not as big as PC, but its like Armstrong v/s Arthur Ashe at the USO
Good thing too, to let everyone get a taste of PC

K-Dog
05-30-2006, 09:03 PM
SL is a show court, no embarrassment playing there
Its not as big as PC, but its like Armstrong v/s Arthur Ashe at the USO
Good thing too, to let everyone get a taste of PC

yeah, and the number 1 seed never plays on anything but Arthur Ashe stadium. if you are a top seed at the USO, it is an embarrassment to play on Louis Armstrong. the USO puts their top seeds on Arthur Ashe and Ashe only. then again, the USO has night matches.

R.Federer
05-30-2006, 09:06 PM
yeah, and the number 1 seed never plays on anything but Arthur Ashe stadium. if you are a top seed at the USO, it is an embarrassment to play on Louis Armstrong. the USO puts their top seeds on Arthur Ashe and Ashe only. then again, the USO has night matches.
I dont think its an embarrassment to play on Armstrong -- do the players feel that? Certainly I have purchased tickets for top players' matches at Armstrong
The USO doing this for the top seed does not make it the norm or the proper way to do things. Wimbledon has had Pete Sampras play on the graveyard of champions for example
I can't imagine there is anything humiliating/embarrassing about playing on one of the other courts other than Center, in an early round for the No. 1

Jairus
05-30-2006, 09:19 PM
SL is a show court, no embarrassment playing there
Its not as big as PC, but its like Armstrong v/s Arthur Ashe at the USO
Good thing too, to let everyone get a taste of PC

I have never been to a slam...would you say that PC vs SL or Arm vs Ashe is the same as Stadium vs. Grandstand at Miami? B/c that would be a pretty huge difference.

K-Dog
05-30-2006, 09:20 PM
well it means that you aren't that important in the media and don't make a lot of headlines. it isn't an embarrassment, just not very normal. i'd rather play on arthur ashe than armstrong.

robinhood
05-30-2006, 09:21 PM
I like the fact that the top players and even some players a tier below share Chatrier and Lenglen.
What's pathetic and embarrassing is that Gaudio is now playing on Court 7.

robinhood
05-30-2006, 09:23 PM
Nah, he was on Lenglen for his matches against Almagro and Moya last year (the latter did surprise me a little, but then Nadal v Grosjean was scheduled on Chatrier at the same time), and also for his first round against Vliegen in 2004. Plus he was on Court 1 at Wimbledon for his matches against Falla and Karlovic in 2004, then his second round versus Minar and QF versus Gonzalez last year. These two seem to be the only Slams that sometimes relegate the top two players to the second court, although Federer said he didn't mind that at Wimbledon last year. Outside those two events, the last time I can recall him not playing on centre court at a tournament was Cincy 03 against Nalbandian, which was put out on Grandstand.

Sjengster, are you a frick or do you just have an exceptional memory?

R.Federer
05-30-2006, 09:34 PM
I have never been to a slam...would you say that PC vs SL or Arm vs Ashe is the same as Stadium vs. Grandstand at Miami? B/c that would be a pretty huge difference.
I've never been to Roland Garros, so I can only base this on what I have seen on TV
Certainly there is no doubt that AA is the big show court at the USO
Armstrong is big, but not nearly as impressive as AA
Grandstand has a distinctly smaller cozier feel

NYCtennisfan
05-30-2006, 09:34 PM
Yeah, the matches against Almagro and Moya at RG and the match against Gonzo at Wimbledon last year were the last times he wasn't on the main court. He even played all of his matches at the USO on Ashe which was different from 2004.

scoobs
05-30-2006, 09:39 PM
What I don't get is why they've scheduled Gaudio, former champion, on court 7 while Henman vs Tursunov manages to land court 2.

bizarre.

mr_burns
05-30-2006, 09:45 PM
yeah, and the number 1 seed never plays on anything but Arthur Ashe stadium. if you are a top seed at the USO, it is an embarrassment to play on Louis Armstrong. the USO puts their top seeds on Arthur Ashe and Ashe only. then again, the USO has night matches.
That's wrong, MArtina Hingis played On LA as No 1


It's no big deal...every salm has to nearly equal courts...it's not like normal tournaments

Sjengster
05-30-2006, 10:49 PM
Yeah, the matches against Almagro and Moya at RG and the match against Gonzo at Wimbledon last year were the last times he wasn't on the main court. He even played all of his matches at the USO on Ashe which was different from 2004.

All of his 2004 matches were on Ashe. Even the one that didn't take place, vs Pavel in the 4th round, was scheduled there - and in the night session too! Maybe they thought the crowd would hear the name Andre/i and really get into it... ;)

Sjengster
05-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Sjengster, are you a frick or do you just have an exceptional memory?

A little of both, perhaps.

Oh, and I just remembered - it wasn't Cincy, it was actually the second round of the US Open a few weeks later in his titanic 6-1, 6-2, 6-0 struggle against Lisnard that was not on the main court, that was on Armstrong. A good job too, all things considered. Lisnard had even less resistance to offer than Minar did in the first round last year.

NYCtennisfan
05-31-2006, 12:35 AM
All of his 2004 matches were on Ashe. Even the one that didn't take place, vs Pavel in the 4th round, was scheduled there - and in the night session too! Maybe they thought the crowd would hear the name Andre/i and really get into it...

Come to think of it, he did play all his matches on Ashe. I was thinking the match with Santoro was also on Ashe on a Saturday or Sunday. Then there was Costa, Baggy at night, Pavel, Andre at night and the carryover, then Super Saturday and of course the final.

TenHound
05-31-2006, 12:45 AM
They seem to have chosen to put French players & more competitive matches by top players on Court #1. As I recall @Wimby last yr. he had to play a non-competive early round match off Center Court as well.

scoobs
05-31-2006, 12:47 AM
Wimbledon always does that - as defending champ you'll get at least 1 match, if not 2, off Centre Court - normally Court 1 but you might even be "blessed" with a visit to court 2.

amierin
05-31-2006, 01:19 AM
Having attended a few US Opens the difference between Ashe and Armstrong for the fan is what makes the difference. I was there the night Federer was supposed to play Pavel and because it was the featured match of the night no other matches were scheduled IIRC. We ended up seeing a doubles and a women's match. To say we were sorely disappointed is putting it mildly.

Armstrong is where the fans go to really see the players play. You sit closer to the court and you can see and hear everything. Ashe is for the fat cats and people who just want to say they were at the Open. The fans are in the nosebleed seats. The Grandstand Court is even more intimate than Armstrong.

That said I was surprised at how the players were assigned for tomorrow. I guess I thought the French, miffed at Roger complaining about having to play on Sunday, decided to display a little Gallic humor. They covered themselves by assigning a lot of matinee players to the outer courst. You never know these days.

Velvetcat
05-31-2006, 03:32 AM
Outside those two events, the last time I can recall him not playing on centre court at a tournament was Cincy 03 against Nalbandian, which was put out on Grandstand.
I know you corrected it to the USO v Lisnard, but the last time I recall was actually AO 04 2nd rnd v Morrisson which was played on Vodafone.

NyGeL
05-31-2006, 04:32 AM
Nah, he was on Lenglen for his matches against Almagro and Moya last year (the latter did surprise me a little, but then Nadal v Grosjean was scheduled on Chatrier at the same time), and also for his first round against Vliegen in 2004. Plus he was on Court 1 at Wimbledon for his matches against Falla and Karlovic in 2004, then his second round versus Minar and QF versus Gonzalez last year. These two seem to be the only Slams that sometimes relegate the top two players to the second court, although Federer said he didn't mind that at Wimbledon last year. Outside those two events, the last time I can recall him not playing on centre court at a tournament was Cincy 03 against Nalbandian, which was put out on Grandstand.

yeah, but Nadal wasn't even top 5 atm.

NyGeL
05-31-2006, 04:33 AM
That's wrong, MArtina Hingis played On LA as No 1


It's no big deal...every salm has to nearly equal courts...it's not like normal tournaments

tickets for SL and PC cost the same?

soraya
05-31-2006, 05:01 AM
I don't really think it matters to Roger, wherever he plays crowds and journalists will follow and perhaps that is what the FF is expecting in order to give more exposure to other courts.