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Rafa will go deep in USO this year`

Halba
05-30-2006, 08:29 AM
He can play on hardcourt. Look at his Dubai Open win against Fed. With that huge forehand of his, he is great on a hardcourt

A_Skywalker
05-30-2006, 08:58 AM
lets wait 5 months and we will see , I hope so

EDIT : Its not 5 months of course , but you know what I mean

prima donna
05-30-2006, 08:59 AM
Stop it already.

bokehlicious
05-30-2006, 09:09 AM
Why are you already talking about USO ? Rafa will win Wimbledon first. :o :angel: :lol:

kronus12
05-30-2006, 09:13 AM
ah maybe we should wait first mate its not like he's got a great record during the american hardcourt season.
Remember there hardcourts are made to help americans and only federer have stop them. And some extent Safin when his head is on.

Clara Bow
05-30-2006, 09:28 AM
I am wondering a bit if Rafa will have a hard time at the USO like Borg did.

I do think that he has the potential to do much, much better on US hardcourts than he has. Does that mean win the USO- not sure, but I think he should and could do better than he does. I am not including Miami in this equation- mainly, because it is slower than the other hard courts in the US. When he plays aggressive- like he did in Montreal against Agassi- he can have very good hardcourt game. But I think that he does have a hard time with the USO crowds, who are quite unfriendly towards him to say the least.* During his match against Blake I saw him seem the most unsure of himself as frankly I have ever seen him. That is to take nothing against Blake- who would have likely won regardless because he was playing stellar hc tennis during the match. But still- Rafa did not play to his (imo) hc ability at the 2005 USO at all.

When he is agressive, he does quite well. But he doesn't really do that as much as he should at all. Also- touch at net is surprisingly good, I don't understand why he doesn't utilize that more in faster surfaces. I think it is a matter of confidence- and frankly, the wind does seem to go out of his sails in the US for the large part.

* I have read on other boards that Nike will not be including the pirates in their fall lineup, and if so- I really hope that Nadal wears shorts at the USO. There were so many stupid (and sometimes very mean) comments and things written about his attire during the USO here in the US that I think, probably very stupidly, that if he wore shorts the mean comments towards him may subside a bit.

bad gambler
05-30-2006, 09:29 AM
You sure love to create random threads don't you?

Rogiman
05-30-2006, 09:36 AM
Why is everyone saying he hasn't done well on US hardcourts?

He won Motreal (okay, Canada but same stunts), made Miami final (slow and blah but US and hardcourts), made semis at IW and how many times has he played the swing anyway...?

I remember in 2003 at the USO he played El Aynaoui when the latter was playing out of his mind and lost in 3 tight sets (inc. 2 tb's), and back then he was what - 17...?

I don't like his game but it can definitely take him deep into the tournament, will he win it...? hopefully no.

DrJules
05-30-2006, 10:07 AM
Remember there hardcourts are made to help americans and only federer have stop them.

Too true, but I think Rafael will starting putting these Americans in their place. The only shot Andy Roddick plays better than Rafael is the serve. Rafael certainly returns and moves better, has a better forehand and backhand and he does actually volley better.

In my mind if Roger does not win the US Open Rafael would be the most likely winner. I expect the betting odds will have Rafael as the clear 2nd favourite.

DrJules
05-30-2006, 10:14 AM
I am wondering a bit if Rafa will have a hard time at the USO like Borg did.


I think Rafael's personality will fit better in New York than Borg. Borg was always happier in the more civilized environments of Roland Garros and Wimbledon. New York was too noisy and there were the night matches which Borg did not like. However, I did think the partisan crowd in Rafael's match against Blake did effect him

oz_boz
05-30-2006, 11:26 AM
When he is agressive, he does quite well. But he doesn't really do that as much as he should at all. Also- touch at net is surprisingly good, I don't understand why he doesn't utilize that more in faster surfaces.

I agree. Nadal will probably have to gradually become more aggressive, that'll be the next thing for him to evolve. I am really looking forward to seeing him take more command, I don't appreciate his defensive game, would like to see more beautiful shots from him instead.

At US Open Nadal can probably win eventually. Claycourters can do well here, the most recent example of that is Ferrero. I don't write off Nadal's chances at Wimbledon yet, not for a guy with his talent and confidence. It's way too early to tell wether he can make the right adjustments for grass.

Halba
05-30-2006, 12:48 PM
i wouldn't necessarily say he is a defensive player...thats a whopper of a lefty forehand he's got there....cuts right through feds backhand...awesome angle..

bokehlicious
05-30-2006, 12:49 PM
It's way too early to tell wether he can make the right adjustments for grass.

Playing well on grass in not just only a matter of 'adjustment'. It requires true grass tennis skills which Rafa has not yet. He will have to work very hard on it whether he wants to become a threat on grass...

Monteque
05-30-2006, 02:29 PM
Too true, but I think Rafael will starting putting these Americans in their place. The only shot Andy Roddick plays better than Rafael is the serve. Rafael certainly returns and moves better, has a better forehand and backhand and he does actually volley better.

In my mind if Roger does not win the US Open Rafael would be the most likely winner. I expect the betting odds will have Rafael as the clear 2nd favourite.

:haha: :haha:

My 2nd fav: Ljubicic

Dr, don't compare nadal only to Roddick.
There are so soooooooooooo many players better than Nadal in extreme fast hardcourt like USO. I can't imagine that Ljubicic/Haas/Blake/Davy/Hewitt/Safin even Roddick would lose in USO from Nadal.
GS case, the only spot remains for Nadal is at FO, once for all.

nobama
05-30-2006, 02:42 PM
The clay season hasn't even finished yet. Why are we talking about what Nadal might do at the USO now? :confused:

hitchhiker
05-30-2006, 03:23 PM
who gives a shit? we are watching dirt tennis now, not USO

vincayou
05-30-2006, 04:01 PM
I think that Rafa will go deep in the australian open 2009.

Argenbrit
05-30-2006, 05:54 PM
Save this thread for September, OK?