John McEnroe & Steroids

Devotee
01-12-2004, 06:41 AM
Report: McEnroe admits to steroids
Monday, January 12, 2004 Posted: 0152 GMT ( 9:52 AM HKT)



McEnroe has called for an overhaul of tennis' hierarchy.


SYDNEY, Australia (AP) -- John McEnroe has reportedly admitted he unknowingly took steroids during his tennis career.

"For six years I was unaware I was being given a form of steroid of the legal kind they used to give horses until they decided it was too strong even for horses," McEnroe was quoted as saying in The Daily Telegraph newspaper in Sydney on Monday.

McEnroe, 43, didn't say who gave him the steroids or for what reason.

The three-time Wimbledon champion's admission followed revelations by Greg Rusedski that he tested positive to nandrolone last July.

The Canadian-born British player said he was innocent and the steroid must have been contained in supplements dispensed by ATP tour trainers. (Full story)

McEnroe said the Rusedski case and the handling of other recent doping cases showed tennis' hierarchy needed an overhaul.

"Surely it's now time for tennis to have its own commissioner," he said. "We have enough problems in the sport. It's the last thing we need."

McEnroe was implicated in a doping scandal two years ago when his former wife Tatum O'Neil claimed the former No. 1 had used steroids late in his career.

McEnroe later called O'Neil's statements "ridiculous."

Drug testing in tennis started in the late 1980s, conducted by the Men's International Professional Tennis Council. The testing at that time was for recreational drugs only and not for those that were considered performance-enhancing.

WyverN
01-12-2004, 08:02 AM
Mac probably took those drugs to comeback from injury

trixy
01-12-2004, 08:07 AM
Hmm, interesting but i suppose Mac's not risking anything now by bringing it out in public. In fact it might even increase ratings for the aus open where he's commentating.

J. Corwin
01-12-2004, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the article. Interesting thought. I wonder if he's saying that to back Greg up cuz he thinks he's innocent?

CooCooCachoo
01-12-2004, 11:13 AM
I doubt whether this would really boost the ratings, but the article is interesting, for sure.

Tennis Fool
01-12-2004, 11:27 PM
"For six years I was unaware I was being given a form of steroid of the legal kind they used to give horses until they decided it was too strong even for horses"

:lol:

His ex-wife says otherwise ;)

heya
01-13-2004, 01:10 AM
:haha:

MisterQ
01-15-2004, 04:17 PM
excerpt from the latest Tennis Week interview:

Tennis Week: You were quoted as saying you took steroids during your career. Was that quote accurate? Did you take steroids?

John McEnroe: What needs to be cleared up was it wasn't performance-enhancing (drugs). Number one, it was an anti-inflammatory and completely legal and I later found out it contained a steroid and I stopped taking it immediately. I was not saying I took peformance-enhancing steroids because I did not. I was simply saying, in a way I was defending (Greg) Rusedski, who said he knew nothing about how this substance got in his system. I said "that's conceivable" because that has happened in the past. When I was younger, people weren't as aware or informed about steroids or supplements. They (would) take things and they (would) have no idea what they are taking and it has become less of an issue, but it was a different time back then. You heard stories back then in football where they'd pour a bunch of pills out on a table in a football locker room and these guys would take the pills not knowing exactly what it was they're taking and then their eyes are like bugging out of their heads. And back then, no one sort of questioned that. The person that gave me this anti-inflammatory told me later this was banned from being used on horses. It made me think: "If they banned it for horses, then it has got to be strong" and I began to develop some serious stomach pain. I stopped taking it. But there's a big difference from what we're talking about — taking an anti-inflammatory — and taking a steroid as a performance-enhancing drug.

Tennis Week: In your view, is steroid use a problem or wide-spread in tennis?

John McEnroe: I don't think so. I think it's far less of a problem than in other sports. I still they think they should test and they should obviously investigate these issues, but do I think it's a wide-spread problem? No.

markbot
07-28-2014, 12:00 AM
excerpt from the latest Tennis Week interview:

Tennis Week: You were quoted as saying you took steroids during your career. Was that quote accurate? Did you take steroids?

John McEnroe: What needs to be cleared up was it wasn't performance-enhancing (drugs). Number one, it was an anti-inflammatory and completely legal and I later found out it contained a steroid and I stopped taking it immediately. I was not saying I took peformance-enhancing steroids because I did not. I was simply saying, in a way I was defending (Greg) Rusedski, who said he knew nothing about how this substance got in his system. I said "that's conceivable" because that has happened in the past. When I was younger, people weren't as aware or informed about steroids or supplements. They (would) take things and they (would) have no idea what they are taking and it has become less of an issue, but it was a different time back then. You heard stories back then in football where they'd pour a bunch of pills out on a table in a football locker room and these guys would take the pills not knowing exactly what it was they're taking and then their eyes are like bugging out of their heads. And back then, no one sort of questioned that. The person that gave me this anti-inflammatory told me later this was banned from being used on horses. It made me think: "If they banned it for horses, then it has got to be strong" and I began to develop some serious stomach pain. I stopped taking it. But there's a big difference from what we're talking about — taking an anti-inflammatory — and taking a steroid as a performance-enhancing drug.

Tennis Week: In your view, is steroid use a problem or wide-spread in tennis?

John McEnroe: I don't think so. I think it's far less of a problem than in other sports. I still they think they should test and they should obviously investigate these issues, but do I think it's a wide-spread problem? No.

That journalist might have done something unethical by not differentiating between different types of steroids. Perhaps, there was just miscommunication. There is a BIG difference between a corticosteroid and an anabolic steroid. You can buy a corticosteroid at the pharmacy to relieve nasal congestion...this ISN'T going to increase your muscularity.

_maxi
05-07-2015, 04:44 PM
McEnroe admitted to have taken steroids "without knowing it" for seven years. He took them until they became ilegal. They were a type of steroids for horses. Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=1708055

And he didn't even look very muscular, eh? what does it mean to all the steroids deniers?
And to everyone that says that steroids don't work in tennis?
Steroids give you more power, more speed, and the hability to train more and rest faster, among other things. It can make you serve faster, run more, have more strong groundtrokes, etc.

I hear you. Thanks.

Il Mancio
05-07-2015, 04:49 PM
freakin doper

Troll Hunter
05-07-2015, 04:49 PM
He said that back in 2004, where the hell have you been :superlol:

emotion
05-07-2015, 04:51 PM
Best part of the article is Agassi being at a "loss for words"

Il Mancio
05-07-2015, 04:54 PM
This news is older than Ramirez-Hidalgo.

sexybeast
05-07-2015, 05:00 PM
Sounds like an honest mistake in a time not very concerned with those things.

MTwEeZi
05-07-2015, 05:01 PM
Steroids =! muscles.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4221042-3x4-700x933.jpg

Fastgrass
05-07-2015, 05:08 PM
Tennis is very clean sport folks. Testing results shows us that.

No positive tests= No dopers in Tennis.

chili
05-07-2015, 05:09 PM
So those meltdowns where roid rage?

SVK
05-07-2015, 05:20 PM
I wonder why people think that only the ones with big muscles are dopers.

AndyNonomous
05-07-2015, 05:21 PM
McEnroe knew he was taking steroids. His ex-wife (Tatum O'Neil) was the one who exposed him.

The players now, have moved on to "Cera", "Testosterone", "HGH", "IGF-1", "Autologous blood doping", and other substances. There is no other way to explain the dramatic increase in speed, strength, and acceleration in the game today, compared to just 15 years ago.

The ITF doesn't give a darn, as long as there are enough USEFUL-IDIOTS that glory-hunt off these frauds.

Mountaindewslave
05-07-2015, 05:21 PM
McEnroe admitted to have taken steroids "without knowing it" for seven years. He took them until they became ilegal. They were a type of steroids for horses. Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=1708055

And he didn't even look very muscular, eh? what does it mean to all the steroids deniers?
And to everyone that says that steroids don't work in tennis?
Steroids give you more power, more speed, and the hability to train more and rest faster, among other things. It can make you serve faster, run more, have more strong groundtrokes, etc.

I hear you. Thanks.

urban myth that all steroids create huge muscles. a lot of steroids specifically help with endurance - Lance Armstrong certainly wasn't a giant was he? think about the keywords too- steroids for HORSES- horses who win the big races aren't insanely heavy, they have incredibly good ENDURANCE and can pick up speed at the very last moments in a race

Speed of Light
05-07-2015, 05:25 PM
urban myth that all steroids create huge muscles. a lot of steroids specifically help with endurance - Lance Armstrong certainly wasn't a giant was he? think about the keywords too- steroids for HORSES- horses who win the big races aren't insanely heavy, they have incredibly good ENDURANCE and can pick up speed at the very last moments in a race

Something to ponder about indeed. Do we know if anyone like this on the current tour?.
No big muscles, but made for the long distance and incredibly good in closing sets?.

I guess not, but if we ever do, then your post would make that case, extremely suspicious.

AndyNonomous
05-07-2015, 05:34 PM
Something to ponder about indeed. Do we know if anyone like this on the current tour?.
No big muscles, but made for the long distance and incredibly good in closing sets?.

I guess not, but if we ever do, then your post would make that case, extremely suspicious.


Anabolic steroids may have a minor positive effect on stamina, but they mostly build "fast-twitch muscle". This aids in acceleration, and strength. That is why they are used in sports like sprinting, and weight-lifting.

Of course, you need the steroids + exercise to make them work. That is why cyclists don't develop upper-body muscles when they use steroids (most of their exercise strengthens their legs, not their upper-body).

If you want to identify a tennis player that may be using anabolics, look for a racket arm that is MUCH larger than the non-racket arm.

Speed of Light
05-07-2015, 05:38 PM
Anabolic steroids may have a minor positive effect on stamina, but they mostly build "fast-twitch muscle". This aids in acceleration, and strength. That is why they are used in sports like sprinting, and weight-lifting.

Of course, you need the steroids + exercise to make them work. That is why cyclists don't develop upper-body muscles when they use steroids (most of their exercise strengthens their legs, not their upper-body).

If you want to identify a tennis player that may be using anabolics, look for a racket arm that is MUCH larger than the non-racket arm.

Of course, the racket arm due to constant use would be much bigger than the non-racket arm. Also, I highly doubt that modern day drugs would be that obvious. No, it is from the match-traits and not from the physicality that we can glimpse into possibly suspicious cases.

What we should really be looking for is having incredible endurance and outplaying players towards the end of the match, for example, winning final sets 6-0 or the like.

MTwEeZi
05-07-2015, 05:39 PM
Anabolic steroids may have a minor positive effect on stamina, but they mostly build "fast-twitch muscle". This aids in acceleration, and strength. That is why they are used in sports like sprinting, and weight-lifting.

Of course, you need the steroids + exercise to make them work. That is why cyclists don't develop upper-body muscles when they use steroids (most of their exercise strengthens their legs, not their upper-body).

If you want to identify a tennis player that may be using anabolics, look for a racket arm that is MUCH larger than the non-racket arm.

Like this one? :eek:

https://scienceofcoachingsquash.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/rod-laver-left-arm.jpg

AndyNonomous
05-07-2015, 05:44 PM
Like this one? :eek:

https://scienceofcoachingsquash.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/rod-laver-left-arm.jpg

Of course, you did know that wooden rackets are much heavier (and would develop his muscles more) and have less power (forcing him to swing harder) than the racket your favorite player uses today, don't you ?

READ MY SIG !

Hypnotize
05-07-2015, 05:49 PM
Anabolic steroids may have a minor positive effect on stamina, but they mostly build "fast-twitch muscle". This aids in acceleration, and strength. That is why they are used in sports like sprinting, and weight-lifting.

Of course, you need the steroids + exercise to make them work. That is why cyclists don't develop upper-body muscles when they use steroids (most of their exercise strengthens their legs, not their upper-body).

If you want to identify a tennis player that may be using anabolics, look for a racket arm that is MUCH larger than the non-racket arm.

LOL, all tennis players have a racket arm that is much larger than the non-racket arm. Your bizarre and ill-informed posts on this subject never cease to amuse me. :spit:

I don't see the point in resurrecting this thread. It's not like this is new information. :shrug:

MTwEeZi
05-07-2015, 05:53 PM
Of course, you did know that wooden rackets are much heavier (and would develop his muscles more) and have less power (forcing him to swing harder) than the racket your favorite player uses today, don't you ?

READ MY SIG !

Oh, right. Because everyone had arms like that in those days. :haha: That signature stands as a mockery bookending your every post.

SheepleBuster
05-07-2015, 06:01 PM
Steroids =! muscles.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4221042-3x4-700x933.jpg

Blood doping ... there are so many ways to cheat. You can rob a bank with a machine gun, digitally, or many other ways. I hate it when people just say steroids and expect large people ... I think everything kind of has suspicious who the biggest juicers are. But we can't accuse anyone because you can't prove just like Armstrong pretended he was a saint and hid behind his cancer battle as he cheated sponsors out of millions.

Tennis does have a steroid problem, and it is not hard to figure out who might have cheated. The human body has certain limits... no matter what they teach in commie school these days.

Fujee
05-07-2015, 06:19 PM
But Chico says steroids aren't helpful for Tennis, problem cannot be found?

Alex999
05-07-2015, 06:22 PM
Old news, but it is a good thing that the OP 'remembered'. I was a huge fan of Borg, disliked JMac at that time ... However, I was 11yo when I watched their final at Wimbledon back in 1980.

I like JMac nowadays ... Yeah, sure he was kinda 'crazy' but he did have a BIG personality.

I'm more 'puzzled' with Agassi.

JoWilly
05-07-2015, 06:59 PM
It is interesting that there are many cases in tennis of people saying they didn't realise things they were taking contained banned substances. I, not saying they are all lying, but it is a bit odd.

Alex999
05-07-2015, 07:04 PM
It is interesting that there are many cases in tennis of people saying they didn't realise things they were taking contained banned substances. I, not saying they are all lying, but it is a bit odd.
People, in general, do lie. Sometimes it does work if you are trying to protect your family or your close friends (let's say, you are really sick, but you don't want them to know and to be worried)... when money is 'involved' people do lie ... it is what it is.

Fujee
05-07-2015, 07:20 PM
The classic "I was let down by people I trusted". So that's er, the doping doctors and enablers who assured you the glow time of a particular product would be cleared by the time a control was needed. That statement which so many busted athletes use is pathetic.