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Sjengster
01-07-2004, 02:46 PM
From the ATP website: we all know how monosyllabic and repetitive players can be in post-match interviews, but there was something so uncannily similar in these two statements that it just didn't ring true...

WHAT THE PLAYERS SAID

Srichaphan: “It was my first match in two months so it’s always difficult after so much time off.

“I hit the ball well and I moved well and I didn’t serve too bad. I got here early and I’ve had four days practice, so I’m prepared.

“Before the match I wasn’t feeling all that confident. But it’s good to get a win first up and I’ll try to keep it rolling and keep hitting them like I did today.

“This is a lucky tournament for me. It’s the first tournament where I did really well (he reached the final in 2002). It’s nice to come back and I always receive a warm welcome”

“It’s never easy to play the first match of the year. It takes a while to find your rhythm.

“I started well and my serve helped me a lot. I’ve worked hard on my serve.

“If you can pick up easy points on your serve and hold your serve well you can relax a bit more on your return games.

“It was lucky that I broke his serve in the first game. That didn’t help him. I know he can play well. I guess he was a little nervous.”

Moya: “It’s never easy to play the first match of the year. It takes a while to find your rhythm.

“I started well and my serve helped me a lot. I’ve worked hard on my serve.

“If you can pick up easy points on your serve and hold your serve well you can relax a bit more on your return games.

“It was lucky that I broke his serve in the first game. That didn’t help him. I know he can play well. I guess he was a little nervous.”

maratski
01-07-2004, 03:38 PM
:haha:

lsy
01-07-2004, 03:58 PM
that's really quite funny... :lol:

But can't really blame this players, they were asked repetitive questions all the time too ;)

Sjengster
01-07-2004, 04:01 PM
The thing is, it's now obvious that only one of them has worked really hard on their serve - so which one is genuine, I wonder? (On reflection, considering that all Moya's comments are a copy of only part of Srichaphan's, and that out of the two of them I know who has the better serve, it's safe to say that it's the Spaniard who's getting words put in his mouth.)

lsy
01-07-2004, 04:28 PM
hahaha...you mean they don't even bother to ask repetitive questions to different players now? But just choose one as a sample?

amethyst
01-07-2004, 04:39 PM
Reporters/Commentators on TV (at least those I know) are saying right the same things over and over again : "He needs a good first serves now to get some easy points" blabla etc. Not that anybody would know that a good first serve can be helpful without commentators telling them ;) Maybe they should stop these interviews (some players would be glad) and write the answers themselves!

lsy
01-07-2004, 04:45 PM
or maybe the players can just take turn to attend press conferences and answers same questions for all other players. In that case, they'll have more time to do something more "constructive", such as signing autographs for fans.

I think some of you here might actually do a much better jobs as tennis commentators/reporters ;)

MisterQ
01-07-2004, 05:21 PM
:haha: Yeah, these questions must become pretty repetitive after a while.

Wouldn't it be funny if they did it like on Jeopardy? The interviewers can give the answers, and then the players can guess the questions! :lol:

Ma. Estefania
01-07-2004, 05:30 PM
LOL..... :haha:

lsy
01-07-2004, 05:50 PM
Mister Q...that's a great idea :haha:

Leo
01-07-2004, 11:06 PM
Interesting observation.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 01:34 AM
I think it could be time to find some of the more memorable press conference quotes.

Here is one by the very humble Marcelo Rios

Q:When you beat a player like Andre Agassi in a big tournament final? Does that stay in your mind for a long times a you begin to get poor results, wondering, "Why can't I get back to where I was that day?"

MARCELO RIOS: Not beating Agassi. I think anybody can beat Agassi. It's not a big deal.

Q: Why?

MARCELO RIOS: I think that's the deal, a final. Win Lipton, beat Agassi. I beat Henman, Enqvist, Ivanisevic. Agassi is one more. I don't think it's because Agassi was the one in the final. The deal is be there to win the tournament and be in the final. Obviously I've been telling myself why I (can/can't?) come back, win tournaments, Monte-Carlo, Rome, something like that.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 01:51 AM
Some more from the Marc Rosset files

MARC ROSSET

Q. Grand Slam Cup, what does it mean to you?
MARC ROSSET: Every match I think -- you journalists seem to believe I can win each and every match, but then I would be No. 1. He was very good today, Courier. I made a number of doublefaults. So I can't win with such a bad serve. My serve was lousy today.

Q. Have you ever been down two sets to Love before and come back?
MARC ROSSET: Yes, I think in all the Grand Slams I was down 6-Love and comeback.

Q. Marc, you have had a very good career obviously and not much success in the Majors. I just wondered if you had any thoughts on some reasons; and I know there has been some injuries and stuff?

MARC ROSSET: I mean, I am asked the question four times a year, why I don't play well in the Slams. You know, when I going to find the key or why I don't play so well, I am going to have a big press conference and tell the press why. Right now, I don't know why. If I knew, I would play better, but I don't know why.

heya
01-08-2004, 03:07 AM
Blunt and honest

J. Corwin
01-08-2004, 05:22 AM
Having commentators is part of the entertainment package. ;)

I agree, however, that some of the things they say are downright obvious. But what would you expect them to say?

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 05:26 AM
Come on jackson, you should know some of the classics, then again there is an essential time not to say anything as well.

They have got to take it one point at a time.

J. Corwin
01-08-2004, 05:32 AM
Classics? As in Carillo-isms?

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 05:36 AM
Not necessarily, classics are the expected cliches that are necessary during any tennis match.

Fred Stolle as much as I like the guy, his pet favourite is the vital 7th game. That is usually useless when the guy has won 6-0 or 6-1.

Tennis doesn't have such great lines as Juantorena down back straight of the 800m "He opens his legs, and shows his class" from the 76 Olympics.

J. Corwin
01-08-2004, 05:45 AM
I'm annoyed almost every time Tim Ryan speaks. The vital 7th game comment annoys me. His high pitched squeals annoy me. He goes "Whoa! ho! ho! ho!" after every decent great point. I'm thinking as a professional announcer he should have seen enough tennis to not cream his pants over every successful passing shot.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 05:46 AM
I am lucky with the commentators that I see, only a few are capable of irritating me. So usually if I am watching with a friend, we will commentate anyway, it's usually more interesting that way.

J. Corwin
01-08-2004, 05:49 AM
In the end, I'd choose to have commentators over not having any. It's amusing and sometimes funny to hear the comments. It also helps during a particularly boring match.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 06:00 AM
I mean of course there are good commentators, it's just the crap sometimes get remembered for their ineptitude. Most of the time we get different commentators and that in many ways is a good thing.

Then again with a boring match on TV, it's possible to change the channel, or at the tennis go to another match or watch someone practice.

WyverN
01-08-2004, 06:12 AM
Fred Stolle is a old nutcase and a very dull commentator.
John Newcombe is good though.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 06:24 AM
Fred just likes the odd beer now and then, and unlike Newk he is definitely not biased.

Originally posted by WyverN
John Newcombe is good though.

Have you heard him commentate on a Hewitt match? He is shockingly biased especially to those who were on his Davis Cup team except the Poo. I mean saying "come on mate, we need to break here" isn't necessarily the best thing.

WyverN
01-08-2004, 06:50 AM
Yes he was biased but his tennis knowledge is terrific.

Worst commentator would have to be Sandy Roberts on channel 7. Does not know one thing about tennis and the comments don't go deeper then "Player X really needs to break here", "We are heading to a tiebreaker"

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 06:56 AM
Hahaha Sandy Roberts I have only heard him a few times, he is just an enthusiastic clown I think.

From what I heard from channel 7 from the times I have been in Australia. Bruiser McAveny is not a tennis man, he should stick to horses and calling the Olympics.

One think about Newk is that he won't commentate on women's tennis, unless he has to.

WyverN
01-08-2004, 07:01 AM
Well Sandy Roberts's job is probably to dumb it down for the casual viewer but he gets very annoying.

I do enjoy it when they get ex players to commentate - they get Pat Cash and Mcenroe regularly for Aus Open. Heard Hingis will be working for Channel 7 this year.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 07:05 AM
Yes, that is supposedly true I hope they don't try and media train Hingis too much, and she asks blunt questions.

Then again it depends on the ex player, it depends on the delievery and not necessarily the knowledge. If the very knowledgeable guy doesn't know to deliver it can make it boring for many viewers, whereas the balance is to the have the combination of both qualities.

WyverN
01-08-2004, 07:07 AM
Don't know if Hingis will be very good with that huge accent though.

Action Jackson
01-08-2004, 07:27 AM
Some people might it very sexy or like the huge accent, she isn't hard to understand when she speaks English. Hearing Becker commentating with his big German accent provided a few laughs.

J. Corwin
01-08-2004, 08:15 AM
I totally missed out on hearing Becker commentating.

And with regard to changing channel while a boring match is on...I just can't. I still love tennis too much to do that.

Jazzy
01-08-2004, 09:33 AM
yeh, true some of the players who find it hard to speak english, sound cute in their acsents!! i guess i just like 2 c them shruggle in somefink for once!

Action Jackson
01-09-2004, 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by 1jackson2001
And with regard to changing channel while a boring match is on...I just can't. I still love tennis too much to do that.

With a 1st up to 4th round womens match I can easily do that. Usually if it's too boring, I might leave it on and do something else.

Actually jazzy most of the players on tour speak English quite well, but there are exceptions for example Coria, Lee, Acasuso. Then again it's the same thing when you're trying to speak a language that you don't know very well, it might be funny for some people, but not others.