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Another doping case....

maratski
01-06-2004, 05:13 PM
I found this posted on worldcrossing.com. It's a bablefish translation from an argentinian source.

Tennis: Mariano Door suspended by dóping Marses January 6 2004 13:31 EFE



GOOD AIRS. - The Argentinean tennis player Mariano Door gave positive in a control antidopaje that was carried out the last year in Chile and it was suspended by six months, as the own player admitted.

I "suffered an asthma crisis. I called to the doctor of urgency and he/she gave me a medication to be able to breathe better. In that time I was very nervous and afraid because they operated from the heart to my nephew of 18 days. I never thought that that medication could give positive", he/she said Door in declarations that it publishes today the daily "Trumpet."

This is the third case of dopaje that affects Argentinean tennis players, after those that had as main characters to Juan Ignacio Chela and Guillermo Coria.

The forbidden substance that was in the analysis of Door is clembuterol, a medication for the asthma that the Argentinean tennis player said to have taken during one week, ten days before the tournament of Vineyard of the Sea of 2003.

After their discharge in the face of the authorities of the Association of Professional Tennis players (ATP) who today is 118 in the world ránking it pointed out that it is "very hurted, but at the same time happy."

It is not pretty what happened to me. But I am happy that they understood that I didn't make it on purpose that the substance is not dopaje because it doesn't improve the physical yield. It is more: they didn't sanction me for the substance, but for not having warned" them, it assured.

The tennis player declared before a tribunal in Miami, where you/he/she was defended by Spanish lawyers.

They am "to them very grateful, it was very good their work. Before the crisis it trained me (the former Argentinean tennis player) Guillermo Vilas, he saw how it was. And he/she also wrote a letter to the ATP", he/she revealed.

Mariano Door is 25 years old and it won two titles of the ATP, Palermo 1998 and Bogotá 2000, besides playing five ends. Their best ránking was the eighteenth since it reached in 2000.

LubiG
01-06-2004, 05:38 PM
OMG Mariano Puerta?? i can't belive it!! :eek: :sad:

Marine
01-06-2004, 05:47 PM
Coria, Puerta...congrats the Argentinians ! :rolleyes:

MisterQ
01-06-2004, 06:14 PM
Mariano Door.... LOL :lol:


But of course the doping allegations are no laughing matter. Sounds like it is another case of accidentally taking something which is "illegal" in order to treat a legitimate problem ---- hopefully they won't be too stringent in their enforcement of rules here.

Sjengster
01-06-2004, 06:25 PM
Yes, 'tis a strangely Czech/Argentinean phenomenon - in order it's been Korda, Coria, Chela, Ulihrach and now Puerta. Is this any coincidence, I wonder?

MisterQ
01-06-2004, 06:41 PM
You have to feel sorry for any player that this happens too. Sure, it is ultimately his responsibility, but it was almost certainly a mistake on his part.

Chloe le Bopper
01-06-2004, 07:19 PM
You have to feel sorry for any player that this happens too. Sure, it is ultimately his responsibility, but it was almost certainly a mistake on his part.
Assuming he's telling the truth about the source of the drug.

Funny that they only seem to catch the guys from certain countries.

Chloe le Bopper
01-06-2004, 07:21 PM
btw, any of you who are currently thumbing your noses at the Argentine system might want to consider your own. I certainly know that every Canadian athlete who has ever played sport, has not been clean (I'm looking at you, Ben Johnson). So I'm not about to shake my head at another country for having a few cases against them.

Although, I repeat... I find it really strange that none of the larger tennis countries with more players, ever get caught.

michelleg
01-06-2004, 07:26 PM
Too sad. I still fail to understand how legitimate medical conditions cannot be appropriately treated under most sports' anti-doping policies. Two of my children regularly have to use albuterol...I guess that would preclude any professional sports for them.

maratski
01-06-2004, 07:33 PM
I got kicked off the computer by my sis before I could explain it concerned Puerta, but I see you already figured that out ;)

Chloe le Bopper
01-06-2004, 07:35 PM
I love how the translation calls him "Mariano Door". Teehee! Yes, I know that puerta=door. But it's still funny. The only funny thing about the article, actually.

maratski
01-06-2004, 07:41 PM
I was laughing at that too ;)

I'm proud of myself for knowing that since my spanish is terrible and I have an oral coming up next week ;)

undomiele
01-06-2004, 09:15 PM
if the atp knows it was done for legitimate reasons than why suspend him for 9 months? Tennis is this man's livelihood. Its all such crap.

Nacho
01-06-2004, 09:36 PM
LOL Mariano Door is funny, but so is saying Vineyard of the Sea instead of Vina del Mar :D

michelleg
01-06-2004, 10:32 PM
Now I'm laughing that I didn't even catch that one, as I just assumed it was some silly challenger event name...YIKES. :p

But it still stinks that Puerta got suspended.

darrinbaker00
01-06-2004, 10:56 PM
I have three words for Señor Puerta: medical exemption form. The ATP could have given him the full two-year suspension for a Class I offense, but since they know he's asthmatic, they gave him a lighter sentence. If he had just taken a few minutes to fill out the proper paperwork (http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_1849_original.PDF), the whole thing could have been avoided. ;)

Guilles' grl
01-06-2004, 11:56 PM
btw, any of you who are currently thumbing your noses at the Argentine system might want to consider your own. I certainly know that every Canadian athlete who has ever played sport, has not been clean (I'm looking at you, Ben Johnson). So I'm not about to shake my head at another country for having a few cases against them.

Holla back. One dude have an asthma attack and everybody trippin'! :lol

You can exclude Steve Nash from that list of Canadians though :)

Leo
01-07-2004, 12:07 AM
And I was about to ask who the hell "Mariano Door" is, too.

Very unfortunate.

LubiG
01-07-2004, 12:09 AM
if the atp knows it was done for legitimate reasons than why suspend him for 9 months? Tennis is this man's livelihood. Its all such crap.

I don't think they give a damn about what certain players say. They just listen to the ones they want to listen.

michelleg
01-07-2004, 01:13 AM
9 months for forgetting a FORM?????

What a bunch of fascists over in PVB.

TennisLurker
01-07-2004, 01:34 AM
It is a pity, but, he should have known.

Ma. Estefania
01-07-2004, 02:19 AM
Another argentine? Oh no....this is getting weird for me....

Action Jackson
01-07-2004, 02:37 AM
I wonder if the ATP are serious about the drug issue? They probably don't know what's banned and what's not.

Have they thought about testing for EPO or Darbepoetin, also known as NESP? It was developed for the treatment of anaemia, is very similar to EPO but it stays longer in the body and its effect is delayed, giving the athlete even more of an advantage.

I agree that it's Puerta's own fault that he didn't fill out the medical exemption form and has to take the punishment.

The thing is the US aren't known for stringent testing of their own athletes, and it's unlikely that players from one of the major tennis countries will be caught. Also what's irritating they will say that all of the Czech and the Argentines are bunch of drug cheats, yet if one of their own players is caught, they will turn around and do everything they can to defend them. This example of hypocrisy has been shown time and again.

JeLuliA88
01-07-2004, 03:16 AM
what's with argentines and drugs?!

Chloe le Bopper
01-07-2004, 03:53 AM
what's with argentines and drugs?!
*sigh*

Right. Because nobody in Australia dopes. EVER.

Action Jackson
01-07-2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Queen Rebecca
Right. Because nobody in Australia dopes. EVER.


Not at all, there actually was a famous one involving an Aussie sportsman who had taken a diruetic and blamed his mother for it. This direutic was a masking agent on the banned list and because of his fame he only got 1 year instead of a 2 year ban.

The above showed exactly about the hypocrisy I wrote about previously, when someone from another country does it, they are a "junkie" or a "roid boy", but when it's one of their own, a huge amount of people go out of their way to defend the accussed, whether they are guilty and makes excuses for their behaviour.

undomiele
01-07-2004, 04:34 AM
Originally Posted by JeLuliA88
what's with argentines and drugs?!

Oh I see. Boris Becker can get high for a 1990 Wimbledon final and not get caught (and makes millions off of that fact later on in his autobiography) while a not-too-famous argentine takes something for an acute asthma attack and suddenly this confirms the idea that argentines are cheats. Crazy how the human mind works. Its complete BS. :rolleyes:

Ma. Estefania
01-07-2004, 05:54 PM
I said that it was getting weird to me, coz lately only the argentines (and ok, 1 Czech) had been caught....

He's not guilty until it's proven the opposite. Just remember Ulhirach's case....so sad.....

*Ljubica*
01-08-2004, 08:09 PM
I said that it was getting weird to me, coz lately only the argentines (and ok, 1 Czech) had been caught....

He's not guilty until it's proven the opposite. Just remember Ulhirach's case....so sad.....


Well it's not just the Argentines - have just heard on our British TV that Greg Rusedski has tested positive for "nandrolene", so guess everyone is coming under scrutiny. Don't know any further details yet though as it has only just come over our "breaking news".