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Federer's Future Ranking

Devotee
01-04-2004, 08:30 AM
Yes, Federer will be #1 after the tournament since he doesn't
have as many points to defend as Roddick.
However, I don't think Federer can maintain #1 for very many
months due to his inconsistent play.

Lindsayfan
01-04-2004, 10:53 AM
yes he'll be n.1 and we'll see how long he'll keep this ranking... he's been inconsistent over the last years but u can say the same of roddick and ferrero.

star
01-04-2004, 01:50 PM
I think what Lindsayfan said is true. This year we will see if one of the top guys can put it all together and maintain a number one ranking. It's more exciting if the number one ranking is bouncing around, but more satisfying for a fan if the number one ranking stays with his/her fave. :)

LubiG
01-04-2004, 03:37 PM
I would LOVE to see Roger being Nº1 instead of Andy Roddick, but i think he'll have to play some more tournaments before he get's there.

Deboogle!.
01-04-2004, 03:43 PM
well.... it's not DEFINITE that he will be #1.. if Roger loses early and Andy stays in further, Andy will still be #1. Though it does seem likely that Roger will get #1, it's not a mathematical certainty. Who knows.... Even if Andy keeps it after AO, I'm sure Roger will get it at some point.

Shy
01-04-2004, 04:15 PM
I don't like to take too many prediction with Roger since he is too unpredictable. The same goes with Marat. It'll depend which side of Roger we get at the AO).(the old Roger or Wimbledon Roger)

star
01-04-2004, 04:17 PM
So that would be OR or WR?

You could add TMC Roger to that as well. :)

faboozadoo15
01-04-2004, 04:29 PM
i think roger will be #1 as i think he will do better than andy at the australian, when all he needs to do is equal his performance. obviously, if both lose in the first round, someone else could certainly overtake both of them.

star
01-04-2004, 04:32 PM
Knock on wood that won't happen.

p.s. i.e. that they go out in the first round.

Shy
01-04-2004, 04:35 PM
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p.s. i.e. that they go out in the first round.

You never know.

star
01-04-2004, 04:37 PM
That's why I was knocking on wood. :)

faboozadoo15
01-04-2004, 05:26 PM
yes, i should knock on wood quickly, but whenever no one mentions the possibility of such a thing happening, it happens... so if i mention it-- clearly it cannot actually happen :lol:

star
01-04-2004, 05:27 PM
:lol:

Ah ha! The reverse jinx!!

Shy
01-04-2004, 05:28 PM
lol

faboozadoo15
01-04-2004, 05:29 PM
u betcha

Shy
01-04-2004, 05:33 PM
I said that Roger ain't going to win AO and be no 1.(reverse jinx).;)

faboozadoo15
01-04-2004, 05:40 PM
just remember if you use it too often, it will stop working, and you will get a very nasty PM from me :) ;)

Havok
01-04-2004, 05:43 PM
i think he'll get it, but then it's gonna be his turn right away to defend that #1, in terms of defending quite a few points. after the AO, he's got more points to defend than Andy/Ferrero, and they can take it right back from him. this is gonna be a fun start to the year isnt it:rocker2:

star
01-04-2004, 06:14 PM
just remember if you use it too often, it will stop working, and you will get a very nasty PM from me :) ;)

Maybe the Admin should get you to clear all reverse jinxes in advance? :)

tangerine_dream
01-04-2004, 06:24 PM
I'm expecting Andy to go further at AO than Roger, so I voted no.

However, it's only a matter of time before Roger does ascend the No. 1 throne anyways.

As I said before, I really believe that the top seeds are going to be playing musical chairs with each other over the No. 1 ranking this year (much like last year; plus with the return of Haas, Safin, and Hewitt, the pool of talent just got a little more competitive, crowded and scarier :scared: ) :lol:

faboozadoo15
01-04-2004, 07:05 PM
Maybe the Admin should get you to clear all reverse jinxes in advance? :)


i could certainly go along with that... this way i could decide what's important and what is clearly not...

J. Corwin
01-04-2004, 08:35 PM
I don't know about right after the AO, but I'm pretty sure he'll get #1 at some point this year.

MisterQ
01-05-2004, 03:36 AM
I'm expecting Andy to go further at AO than Roger, so I voted no.


Even if Andy goes further than Roger at the AO, Roger could still catch him in the rankings. The math is definitely in Rog's favor (and that's why I voted "yes")

If the Australian were played right now (that is, not counting any of the pre-AO tournaments like Doha), Roger would catch Andy if Rog lost in the fourth round and Andy lost in the quarters. And even if they both lost in the semis, Roger would overtake Andy.

I just did the math in my head, so it could be wrong, and anyway the pre-AO tournaments will alter this situation. But it's gonna be close!

Deboogle!.
01-05-2004, 04:04 AM
Pre-AO tourneys will only alter the situation if Andy makes the finals or wins Doha.

Guess we'll find out soon enough :) With Andy working with Brad AND both a new trainer Marc and Spreen for the first time over an offseason and Roger firing his coach, I'd consider both of them really unpredictable at the moment lol

WyverN
01-05-2004, 05:32 AM
after initially becoming #1 only year end #1 rankings are of value in my opinion

J. Corwin
01-05-2004, 09:00 AM
Well then a lot of players haven't ended the year at #1 but have reached #1 at some point.

J. Corwin
01-05-2004, 09:00 AM
Pre-AO tourneys will only alter the situation if Andy makes the finals or wins Doha.

Guess we'll find out soon enough :) With Andy working with Brad AND both a new trainer Marc and Spreen for the first time over an offseason and Roger firing his coach, I'd consider both of them really unpredictable at the moment lol

I concur.

WyverN
01-05-2004, 09:07 AM
Well then a lot of players haven't ended the year at #1 but have reached #1 at some point.

Yes but ending the year #1 is far more significant

J. Corwin
01-05-2004, 10:05 AM
Yes but ending the year #1 is far more significant

Of course.

heya
01-05-2004, 10:48 AM
duh

tangerine_dream
01-05-2004, 05:23 PM
Even if Andy goes further than Roger at the AO, Roger could still catch him in the rankings. The math is definitely in Rog's favor (and that's why I voted "yes")

If the Australian were played right now (that is, not counting any of the pre-AO tournaments like Doha), Roger would catch Andy if Rog lost in the fourth round and Andy lost in the quarters. And even if they both lost in the semis, Roger would overtake Andy.

I just did the math in my head, so it could be wrong, and anyway the pre-AO tournaments will alter this situation. But it's gonna be close!

Agreed. Thanks for the math lesson, MisterQ. :)

MisterQ
01-05-2004, 05:39 PM
after initially becoming #1 only year end #1 rankings are of value in my opinion

I understand the prestige of a year-end No. 1 ranking, but anytime you reach No. 1 it means you have been the best over the past 52 weeks. To me personally that counts as a lot (but I understand your perspective also).

Along a similar line of thought, I think winning 4 slams in a row should count as a Grand Slam of sorts, even if it is not within one season. (Navratilova's 6 in a row from '83-'84 is a great achievement, but it doesn't count as a grand slam I guess).

But that's another issue... ;)

Deboogle!.
01-05-2004, 05:51 PM
I agree Q, anytime a player reaches #1 even if they only keep it for a week or two, I think it's a great achievement.

J. Corwin
01-05-2004, 07:57 PM
Well it's all relative. It's a great achievement in itself, but a year-end #1 is greater.