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Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 08:16 AM
This might be useless to some people, but I have decided to post some of the best current 5 set records.

The criteria that I have used is that they have played a minimum of 10 5 setters and they have a 60 per cent or better winning percentage.



Rank: Win Loss Percentage

Robredo 13 4 76.47
Nadal 16 5 76.19
Muller 9 3 75.00
Djokovic 18 7 72.00
Kohlschreiber 14 6 70.00
Murray 14 6 70.00
Dolgopolov 7 3 70.00
Cilic 16 7 69.57
Tipsarevic 18 8 69.23
F.Lopez 17 8 68.00
Ferrer 18 9 66.67
Berdych 16 8 66.67
Baghdatis 12 6 66.67
Istomin 8 4 66.67
Nieminen 17 9 65.38
Monfils 11 6 64.71
Tsonga 9 5 64.29
Simon 12 7 63.16
Hewitt 31 19 62.00
Tursunov 11 7 61.11
Youzhny 18 12 60.00
Stakhovsky 6 4 60.00







If there are any other current players that I have missed out, post away but they must have played at least 10 5 setters and have 60 % or better winning ratio.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 09:04 AM
Sampras deserves a mention with a 33-15 record

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 09:14 AM
Yes, it's an outstanding record but he has retired and this was done for players currently.

On that record he would be equal with Lapentti and El Ayanoui, but because he won more matches he would have been placed first of that group.

azza
01-02-2004, 09:45 AM
Philippoussis is like 5-0 in 5 sets This year :banana:

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 09:55 AM
Thanks for that Azza, I knew there would be a few that I would forget.

I have made the adjustment and he moves the great Koubek down to number three.

azza
01-02-2004, 10:15 AM
Omg Is Mark Philippoussis the Poo :lol: :rolls:

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 10:15 AM
The Poo has actually won 10 out of 11 of his last 5 set matches, that is very impressive.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 10:18 AM
Yes it is especially considering he has a reputation for being mentally fragile

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 10:21 AM
Very true Wyver.

Happy 2004 to you anyway, the fun has just begun.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 10:23 AM
Very true Wyver.

Happy 2004 to you anyway, the fun has just begun.

Happy 2004 to you to, the fun doesn't officially begin until January 17th

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 10:24 AM
Well like any competitors in any event they need warm up and this will be no different. The points scale is fair, and I will have to check again the countback rules, but I think we agreed on these.

Speaking of past players I don't think anyone will beat this great 5 set record. The underrated Bjorn Borg 23-4 and with a winning percentage of 85.18, that is magnificent.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 10:27 AM
Speaking of past players I don't think anyone will beat this great 5 set record.

Bjorn Borg 23-4 and with a winning percentage of 85.18, that is very impressive.

Yes Borg was amazing, I wish he did not retire so early, if he had played for another 5-6 years I don't think there would be any debates about the "best player of all time".

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 10:36 AM
It was sad that he retired so early, but if his heart wasn't in it, then that was the best for him. If he played for another 3 years, then he might have won a US Open, I think he definitely could have won 2 more FOs.

He is truly respected and revered in Sweden and especially by Guga ( the bowing at the FO ceremony) and Roger worships him as well.

I mean if it wasn't him the world wouldn't have seen Edberg, Wilander or the other Swedish players. Tennis used to be a snobby, yuppie sport in Sweden until he came along, the success and the federation built excellent tennis centres throughout the country to inspire the next generation.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 10:43 AM
I mean if it wasn't him the world wouldn't have seen Edberg, Wilander or the other Swedish players. Tennis used to be a snobby, yuppie sport in Sweden until he came along, the success and the federation built excellent tennis centres throughout the country to inspire the next generation.

The amazing thing is that Borg started playing tennis almost by accident

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 11:01 AM
Yes, that is how some of the best stories happen. I wonder if he ever beat the wall that he used to hit up against?

WyverN
01-02-2004, 11:04 AM
Yes, that is how some of the best stories happen. I wonder if he ever beat the wall that he used to hit up against?

The wall is very good but surely it would make a unforced error before borg

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by WyverN
The wall is very good but surely it would make a unforced error before borg

That is the best comment of 2004, luckily I wouldn't have to put my house on this one. I think the match might go even longer than the 6hrs 20 min McEnroe vs Wilander DC match.

In summing up I think the wall might be a very slight favourite, it could go either way.

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 11:37 AM
Back onto the topic, as much as I am laughing at the wall comment.

As you said earlier it's interesting that the Poo and Safin who aren't widely known for their mental toughness, yet they are both in the top 10 of this list. Any other surprises on that list?

WyverN
01-02-2004, 11:57 AM
rios, goran have a habit of collapsing but have very good 5 set records.
Koubek is a surprise as he does not have many major weapons.

Kafelnikov between 1998 and 2002 had a amazing 17-2 record.

He was a very good 5 set player and his overall record is a bit misleading as he went 0-3 in 2003.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 11:58 AM
Also Wayne Arthurs deserves a mention even though he does not meet your criteria, he is 7-1 in 5 set matches

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the evaluations, they were very interesting and yes Mr Arthurs deserves an honourable mention.

Koubek is actually quite a fit guy, and he can play fairly well when he could be bothered. Unfortunately he is a poorer version of Muster, and he doesn't have any great strengths, though he pulled off one of the best comebacks I have seen down 1-6, 0-6 1-4, 15-40 on serve and won the match.

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 12:09 PM
The Kafelnikov one is interesting, well his 03 record pretty much shows how far he has declined, he isn't even the mix to win the Slams these days, whereas even up to a few years ago he was always a chance except at Wimbledon.

Then again Rios and Goran despite at times being on different planet had those weapons with Rios the angles and creativity and Goran the huge serve which helped in some tight moments in the last sets.

Keep them coming, if anyone finds any more.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the evaluations, they were very interesting and yes Mr Arthurs deserves an honourable mention.

Koubek is actually quite a fit guy, and he can play fairly well when he could be bothered. Unfortunately he is a poorer version of Muster, and he doesn't have any great strengths, though he pulled off one of the best comebacks I have seen down 1-6, 0-6 1-4, 15-40 on serve and won the match.

who was that against?

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 12:33 PM
My mistake about the 1st set score I got the other way around.

The "great" Cyril Saulnier at the Australian Open in 2002. The result was 0-6 1-6 7-6(6) 6-4 8-6 and Saulnier had match points in the 3rd and 5th sets.

He also ran down Blake from 2 sets down as well in that tournament.

Actually I am enjoying this conversation, but for different reasons than usual.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 12:44 PM
Great comeback no matter who it was against

I am off to sleep now, yes this has been a nice change of pace.
A ray of sunlight before the storm I see ahead :)

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 12:48 PM
One last thing about the wall vs Borg. If you think Borg would have won, would it have been in 5 sets?

I just found out two other outstanding 5 set records from the past. Wyver these belong to two of your favourites.

Krickstein 28-9 at 75.67%
Muster 18-7 at 72%

Krickstein's included the feat of winning 8 times from 2 sets down, that rates his record very highly indeed.

What do you think of Nalbandian's chances of having an outstanding 5 set record that would compare with the best percentages from that list. He is 6-2 at the moment, I think he will do very well in this category.

WyverN
01-02-2004, 01:06 PM
One last thing about the wall vs Borg. If you think Borg would have won, would it have been in 5 sets?


I don't think they would ever finish, you mentioned Borg's longest match was 6 hours 15 minutes.

I think it would take them that long to finish a practice rally that would decide who serves first.


I just found out two other outstanding 5 set records from the past. Wyver these belong to two of your favourites.

Krickstein 28-9 at 75.67%
Muster 18-7 at 72%


Those are impressive. I recall Aaron beating Edberg at the Australian Open from being down 2 sets to love in 1995 during the 4th round. It was the first time since 1983 that Edberg didn't make at least the Quarters there.

28-9 really is incredible. The large amount of 2 set to love comebacks does show great fighting spirit and fitness but also suggests he was a slow starter and would only start playing when he was down and had to go for broke.

Muster's record is to be expected.



What do you think of Nalbandian's chances of having an outstanding 5 set record that would compare with the best percentages from that list. He is 6-2 at the moment, I think he will do very well in this category.

Should do well, also Schuettler is he keeps up the good showings in slams.
His record is 4-1 right now and he is built like a horse and does not have a game that will get many straight set blowouts but rather wearing the opponent down over 5 long sets. If he had started performing earlier in his career and played a few more 5 set matches, his record would be excellent already.

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 01:26 PM
Krickstein maybe he liked going 5 sets as a tactic, but yes he was a slow starter and seemed very passive at times. Krickstein did to Agassi as well when Agassi had the mullet, but 8 times is special and you were spot-on with your comments. Also maybe the players knew about his ability and they felt pressured if they didn't finish him in 3 he would come home and win.

Good comments again, yes I like to call Schuettler "Running Rainer" because of his excellent fitness, and I think he enjoys the running aspect and definitely he has the grinding game that doesn't always make it easy for him to win in straight sets.

Speaking of the Slams I saw what he did to Nalbandian at the AO last year, that was hideous, though Nalbandian smashed him in DC. It's interesting that he took a while to develop, maybe it was psychological or he didn't play in enough warm weather places.

Yeah Wyver, well I cant show off to many cards can I? :drink:

Deboogle!.
01-02-2004, 04:36 PM
that is very surprising and impressive about Mark, I wouldn't have guessed that.

Ma. Estefania
01-02-2004, 09:56 PM
I wish Lapentti could be out of that list though he isn't in a bad position.

I always suffer so much with his slow/calm tennis, oh....and that sick sliced backhand that I hate. :rolleyes:

J. Corwin
01-02-2004, 10:03 PM
I can't stand too many slices either.
And Borg's 5 set record is extremely impressive.

Ma. Estefania
01-02-2004, 10:32 PM
I can't stand too many slices either.


Yeah....me neither, and just imagine Lapentti's ones.....but do you know what's the worst thing? :o That they don't work for him, and he finishes losing at last.... :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
01-03-2004, 09:26 AM
Come on Ma. Estefania Lapentti gives value for money, and watching one of his matches there is a chance it will go 5 sets, therefore covering the value of your ticket.

Try sitting through 4 consecutive 5 set matches live, and not on TV. It's wonderful when your guy wins, but not too great when they lose from 2 sets up and witnessing it in person.

Action Jackson
01-28-2004, 12:09 AM
I thought this deserves an update with big Marat moving up the ranking with his wins over Todd Martin and Duckboy.

He is now 17/7, which gets him up to 70.83 percent of victories in 5 setters.

Action Jackson
01-30-2004, 04:14 AM
Safin goes to 18-7, not bad for a guy who is mentally fragile.

TennisLurker
01-30-2004, 05:43 AM
I dont know where you are getting this info, could you check Jjiri Novak's 5 set records?

I think he totally mings in 5 set matches, I just want to see if it is true.

Deboogle!.
01-30-2004, 05:49 AM
Lurker - http://home.tenniscorner.net/

according to that site, Novak is career 11-10 in 5-setters

azza
01-30-2004, 06:28 AM
Peter Luczak is 31-2 :)

Action Jackson
01-30-2004, 06:59 AM
Hahaha azza like he has played that many matches on the main tour?

Lady
01-30-2004, 05:35 PM
How about Costa's record?
He made a big impression during RG! ;)

Action Jackson
01-31-2004, 04:46 AM
He is only about 50 percent.

Action Jackson
02-03-2004, 06:38 AM
Updated Best 5 set records. Big increase for Safin to second place, and a drop for Corretja unfortunately.

Players W/L Percentage
Escude 10/3 76.92
Safin 18-7 72
The Poo 15-6 71.42
Koubek 7/3 70.00
N Lapentti 22/10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11-5 68.75
W.Ferreira 26-12 68.42
Bjorkman 21-11 65.63
Kafelnikov 20-11 64.51
Ivanisevic 25-11 64.1
Corretja 14-8 63.33
Hewitt 13-8 61.9
Rios 12-8 60
Hrbaty 9-6 60

FryslanBoppe
05-02-2004, 09:30 AM
Safin is 18-8 now which is 69.23

I saw I am overrated Tommy Haas is 9-4 which is exactly the same percentage as Safin.

J. Corwin
05-02-2004, 09:47 AM
interesting

Action Jackson
05-26-2004, 04:02 AM
Mr Stefan Koubek has improved his outstanding 5 set record to 8/3.

CmonAussie
05-26-2004, 04:20 PM
Anybody know Guga Kuerten's 5-set record??
* He must have a fairly good record considering all his great wins at FO alone; also yesterday he came through 7-5 in the 5th set. Earlier this year he won another 5-setter at AO... So if someone could provide me with his stats I'd appreciate it*@@*

Action Jackson
05-27-2004, 03:46 AM
Anybody know Guga Kuerten's 5-set record??
* He must have a fairly good record considering all his great wins at FO alone; also yesterday he came through 7-5 in the 5th set. Earlier this year he won another 5-setter at AO... So if someone could provide me with his stats I'd appreciate it*@@*

Guga Kuerten is 17-12.

RogiFan88
05-27-2004, 03:56 AM
This might be useless to some people, but I have decided to post some of the best current 5 set records.

The critieria that I have used is that they have played a minimum of 10 5 setters and they have a 60 per cent or better winning percentage.

Players Win/Loss Percentage
Escude 10/3 76.92
The Poo 15-6 71.42
Koubek 7/3 70.00
N Lapentti 22/10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11-5 68.75
W.Ferreira 26-12 68.42
Safin 15-7 68.18
Corretja 14-7 66.66
Bjorkman 21-11 65.63
Kafelnikov 20-11 64.51
Ivanisevic 25-11 64.1
Hewitt 13-8 61.9
Rios 12-8 60
Hrbaty 9-6 60

Honourable mentions to Mantilla who is 7-2 and has the best percentage of 77.7 and Nalbandian who is 6-2 at 75 per cent.

If there are any other current players that I have missed out, post away but they must have played at least 10 5 setters and have 60 % or better winning ratio.

thanks, George, I've been wondering about 5-set records lately!

Action Jackson
05-27-2004, 04:00 AM
thanks, George, I've been wondering about 5-set records lately!

I have put them in Microsoft Word format.

Ballbuster
05-27-2004, 04:40 AM
doesn't Al Costa have a good five set record? I'd imagine he does with his fitness level

Action Jackson
05-27-2004, 04:42 AM
doesn't Al Costa have a good five set record? I'd imagine he does with his fitness level

If you read the criteria at the start of the thread, then you will see who is there and who is not, he does not have a 60 per cent or over in 5 sets, and that is why he is not there.

moonlight
05-27-2004, 04:48 AM
Thanks for the list, GWH! :)

Action Jackson
05-29-2004, 02:38 AM
Safin goes to 19/9
Mantilla comes into the list now at 7/3

I will update these after the tournament.

Neely
05-29-2004, 09:55 PM
wow, Safin is really working hard to improve his 5 set record :rolls:

20-8 (71,4%) now for Marat :)

Lady
05-29-2004, 10:02 PM
Nobody can say he's not trying ;) :lol:

Chris Seahorse
05-29-2004, 10:32 PM
Fabrice Santoro is 17-9. As he showed this week he really gives it his all in 5th sets and has a great record in them. Unfortunately quite often he ends up with little left and goes out very quietly the following round. This years Roland Garros was the 3rd time in his career he`s had back to back 5 set wins but all three were followed by a straight sets loss. Out of his 16 grand slam five set wins he lost in the next round 11 times.

Neely
05-29-2004, 10:50 PM
yes, that a good contribution, Chris
Santoro's improved 5 set record after this week should match George's criteria to include him on this list now

CmonAussie
05-30-2004, 02:13 AM
* Hewitt moves to 14/7 in 5-setters = 66.67% @@

Neely
05-30-2004, 02:21 AM
no exactly, CmonAussie.... Hewitt is 14-8 (63,3%) since today's win over Verkerk (and not 14-7) ;)

Action Jackson
06-25-2004, 04:47 AM
Here is the table updated there have been movements for Haas, Safin and Ivanisevic and Koubek and Corretja have fallen down the table.

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-04-2004, 09:24 AM
Win Loss Percentage
Escude 10/3 76.92
Safin 20/8 71.43
The Poo 15/6 71.42
Haas 10/4 71.42
Mantilla 7/3 70
N.Lapentti 22/10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11/5 68.75
Koubek 8/4 66.66
Björkman 21/11 65.63
Hewitt 14/8 63.63
Corretja 14/9 60.86
Santoro 17/11 60.71
Hrbaty 9/6 60

Out of the list now due to retirement
W.Ferreira 26/12 68.42
Ivanisevic 26/14 65

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-04-2004, 09:29 AM
Koubek is now 10/4.
The Poo is down to 15/7.

Neely
09-04-2004, 03:05 PM
Haas should be 11/5 now with his win over Sanguinetti

Neely
02-13-2005, 12:30 AM
No, this thread is not forgotten and it requires an update for some players after 5set matches in Melbourne!
Well, some are new to the list, some improved, and others fell down the rankings!


to qualify for this ranking:
- must have played at least ten 5-set matches
- winning at least 60% or better of them

_____________________________________

..............Win..Loss......Perc.

Escude.........10....3 ---> 76.92 %
Safin..........21....8 ---> 72.41 %
The Poo........15....6 ---> 71.43 %
Mantilla........7....3 ---> 70.00 %
N.Lapentti.....22...10 ---> 68.75 %
El Ayanoui.....11....5 ---> 68.75 %
Hewitt.........16....8 ---> 66.67 %
Hrbaty.........12....6 ---> 66.67 %
Spadea.........10....5 ---> 66.67 %
Gonzalez........8....4 ---> 66.67 %
Koubek..........8....4 ---> 66.67 %
Björkman.......21...11 ---> 65.63 %
T. Johansson...13....7 ---> 65.00 %
Haas...........11....6 ---> 64.71 %
Sargsian.......10....6 ---> 62.50 %
Corretja.......14....9 ---> 60.87 %
Santoro........17...11 ---> 60.71 %


_____________________________________


notes:
- Calleri: 1-8 now, congrats for winning his first five set match against Mirnyi
- T. Johansson: won all his three five set matches this year
- Olivier Rochus: played his 17th five set match in just six years, but is only 7-10
- Federer is 7-8
- Srichaphan 6-3

Socket
02-13-2005, 01:27 AM
Are you including Davis Cup matches?

Neely
02-13-2005, 01:29 AM
Are you including Davis Cup matches?
yes, is included

marilag
02-13-2005, 01:34 AM
Interesting. :))

Action Jackson
02-13-2005, 02:00 AM
Thanks for updating this Neely.

RogiFan88
02-13-2005, 02:58 AM
thanks, George, for this thread... I've been wondering about it lately! ;)

Billabong
02-13-2005, 05:03 AM
Wow Mark P:D!!!

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 10:18 AM
Safin moves to 22-8 and Gonzalez is now 8-5 in 5 sets after their 5 setter in Russia.

Neely
03-07-2005, 10:48 AM
Well, Marat is working hard for his number #1 ranking in this category :lol:

Tommy Haas lost a five set match: 11-7 now

Besides the already mentioned ones, no more changes for the list after this Davis Cup weekend.

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 10:55 AM
Nalbandian is close to making the group at 7-5, if he wins his next one and then he'll move up. Mantilla should be 9-1, but he blew big chances against Grosjean and Safin.

Marat wants the # 1 position badly.

Action Jackson
05-26-2005, 05:19 AM
Mantilla with his win over Novak moves up to 8-3.

Action Jackson
06-08-2005, 01:56 PM
Thanks to Neely for putting the info into a readable format.

Since RG has come and gone there have been some changes, a few up and a few down.

Mantilla, Haas are up with Vicente moving into the list, down are Safin and Hrbaty with Santoro going out of the list.

..............Win..Loss......Perc.

Escude.........10....3 ---> 76.92 %
Mantilla........8....3 ---> 72.72 %
The Poo........15....6 ---> 71.43 %
Safin..........21....9 ---> 70.00 %
N.Lapentti.....22...10 ---> 68.75 %
El Ayanoui.....11....5 ---> 68.75 %
Hewitt.........16....8 ---> 66.67 %
Spadea.........10....5 ---> 66.67 %
Gonzalez........8....4 ---> 66.67 %
Koubek..........8....4 ---> 66.67 %
Björkman.......21...11 ---> 65.63 %
Haas...........11....6 ---> 64.71 %
T. Johansson...14....8 ---> 63.63 %
Hrbaty.........12....7 ---> 63.15 %
Sargsian.......10....6 ---> 62.50 %
Corretja.......14....9 ---> 60.87 %
Vicente....... 9....6 ---> 60.00 %

Footnotes:

Santoro drops out of list with 17-12
- Nieminen is 7-2
- Nalbandian is 7-6
- Puerta is 5-2
- Robredo is 6-2
- Cañas is 11-11
- Gaudio is 4-12

Neely
06-08-2005, 05:41 PM
Thanks for this very good and needed update after RG!

Action Jackson
06-08-2005, 05:44 PM
Well Neely you are the one that helped make all the monitoring a lot easier.

Fumus
06-08-2005, 05:46 PM
Hey GWH, when are you going to make the poor mans thread?

Action Jackson
06-08-2005, 05:47 PM
Hey GWH, when are you going to make the poor mans thread?

Next week man. I am still thinking of other ones as we speak, though reading 10 000 words about economic policy is too resistable at the moment.

Fumus
06-08-2005, 05:48 PM
Next week man. I am still thinking of other ones as we speak, though reading 10 000 words about economic policy is too resistable at the moment.

Alright, just making sure you didn't forget about it. :)

gooner88
06-08-2005, 08:27 PM
Thanks for doing this thread, it's great.
I love watching 5 set matches, and what you learn most is a players mentality under pressure.
Totally unrelated to this thread, but Nalbandian's last 3 Slam losses have come after 5 sets.

Action Jackson
06-08-2005, 08:30 PM
Nalbandian used to be 7-2 at one stage.

nermo
06-08-2005, 08:39 PM
What about Canas , Puerta., Robredo??i think they might have records too :confused: .

Action Jackson
06-09-2005, 11:17 AM
What about Canas , Puerta., Robredo??i think they might have records too :confused: .

Read the critieria and there is a section called footnotes that explains it.

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 01:04 PM
Here are some minor updates to this list.

Best 5 Set Records: Minimum 10 matches



Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Escude 10 3 76.92
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Safin 22 9 70.97%
Nieminen 7 3 70.00
N.Lapentti 22 10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11 5 68.75
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Hewitt 16 8 66.66
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Gonzalez 8 4 66.66
Björkman 23 12 65.71
Hrbaty 13 7 65.00
T.Johansson 14 8 63.63
Sargsian 10 6 62.50
Haas 11 7 61.11
Corretja 14 9 60.87
Vicente 9 6 60.00

Neely
07-11-2005, 03:05 PM
:yeah: thanks, George

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 03:08 PM
Safin looks like easily playing the most 5 setters considering he is only just behind Björkman and Lapentti.

Neely
07-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Safin looks like easily playing the most 5 setters considering he is only just behind Björkman and Lapentti.
Yes, I think so too. Björkman is near the end of his career, Lapentti is in the late 20s.

I would think Lapentti could give Marat a good run for the most 5 set matches played nowadays, considering that Lapentti accumulated one more five setter than Marat and despite playing many less Grand Slam matches (but Lapentti played more Davis Cup matches).

But for that to happen, Lapentti would need to go deeper in the draw of these best-of-five tournaments and this hardly happens anymore, so it looks to be only a matter of time until Safin overttakes him in this category...

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 03:44 PM
Lapentti hasn't been a force for a while, then again he is a spoilt rich good looking kid, who had all the talent and everything given to him and now he seems not to have the fight to make it back, though he always plays Davis Cup.

I remember when Lapentti took out 3 Swedes in 5 sets at the AO and lost to Mr Personality Enqvist, he was just too tired.

Experimentee
07-11-2005, 04:18 PM
That was Lapentti played four 5 setters and one 4 setter to reach AO semis. I remember that, all matches were thrilling and he was too tired to put up an effort agaisnt Enqvist. That tournament probably contributed to most of his great 5 set record!
I still think Lapentti will make it back, into the top 50, if not where he used to be. He's already nearly in the top 100.

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 04:21 PM
That was Lapentti played four 5 setters and one 4 setter to reach AO semis. I remember that, all matches were thrilling and he was too tired to put up an effort agaisnt Enqvist. That tournament probably contributed to most of his great 5 set record!
I still think Lapentti will make it back, into the top 50, if not where he used to be. He's already nearly in the top 100.

Old Lapentti that man loved the dropshot. I remember that year when he was # 88 at the start and ended up finishing # 8 in the world. He could play, but he doesn't have that much power, the best bit was in 2002 when he made the quarter finals at Wimbledon.

I just expect Lapentti and 5 setters. I remember the one he lost against Costa at RG, when he was cramping and big Al was giving him shit.

Experimentee
07-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Lapentti always finds a way to make things hard for himself :lol:
I remember the DC tie too, Ecuador vs Romania, wasnt every match a 5 setter there? He had a lead against Sabau but in true Lapentti style finally won it in 5. Same story against Hanescu too :lol:

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 05:55 PM
Lapentti always finds a way to make things hard for himself :lol:
I remember the DC tie too, Ecuador vs Romania, wasnt every match a 5 setter there? He had a lead against Sabau but in true Lapentti style finally won it in 5. Same story against Hanescu too :lol:

I remember when he beat Gaudio at the AO, after Gaudio took out Clement. It was true Lapentti style, Gaudio was playing some quality tennis, then Nico just started the slicing game and then hitting dropshots, a bit of choking by Gaudio, but just better play from Lapentti.

Action Jackson
07-20-2005, 05:40 AM
Hrbaty now moves to 13-7

JMG
08-30-2005, 10:38 PM
Jarkko Nieminen is 8-3 now! :woohoo:

2001 Stockholm
F Schalken d. Nieminen 3-6 6-3 6-3 4-6 6-3

2003 Australian Open
1R Nieminen d. Davydenko 6-3 3-6 3-6 6-2 7-5
2R Nieminen d. Kafelnikov 6-3 6-3 3-6 4-6 6-1

2003 Austria Daviscup
Nieminen d. Melzer 7-6(5) 4-6 6-4 4-6 6-4

2003 French Open
2R Nieminen d. Varlet 1-6 1-6 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
3R Nieminen d. Hanescu (1)6-7 6-4 6-2 3-6 6-3

2003 Wimbledon
1R Nieminen d. Verdasco (10)6-7 6-4 4-6 6-3 6-3

2003 US Open
2R Nalbandian d. Nieminen 5-7 6-3 6-1 4-6 7-6(3)

2005 French Open
1R Nieminen d. Agassi 7-5 4-6 (6)6-7 6-1 6-0

2005 Wimbledon
1R Henman d. Nieminen 3-6 (5)6-7 6-4 7-5 6-2

2005 US Open
1R Nieminen d. K.Beck 6-4 2-6 7-5 0-6 7-5

adee-gee
08-30-2005, 10:48 PM
Not wishing to take anything away from Mr Nieminen, but he lost a 5 setter to Timothy at Wimby ;)

JMG
08-30-2005, 11:10 PM
Not wishing to take anything away from Mr Nieminen, but he lost a 5 setter to Timothy at Wimby ;)

:o It seems that I forgot that shame in Wimbledon.

Action Jackson
08-31-2005, 11:02 AM
I'll do a complete update after the US Open, but good work Shark.

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 04:02 AM
Updated again.

The changes are that
- Hewitt has moved up the rankings.
- Nieminen has gone down
- Haas with his loss to Ginepri is out of the list.
- Sargsian has retired, so he is out as well.

Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Escude 10 3 76.92
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Safin 22 9 70.97
Hewitt 18 8 69.23
N.Lapentti 22 10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11 5 68.75
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Gonzalez 8 4 66.66
Nieminen 8 4 66.66
Björkman 23 12 65.71
Hrbaty 13 7 65.00
T.Johansson 14 8 63.63
Corretja 14 9 60.87
Vicente 9 6 60.00
Nalbandian 9 6 60.00

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 03:35 PM
Hewitt is 11-1 in 5 setters since 2002 and the irony is the match that he lost was to Robredo at RG when he was leading 2 sets to love.

uNIVERSE mAN
09-12-2005, 03:59 PM
Sampras deserves a mention with a 33-15 record

Can't believe he was pushed to five sets in 48 Grand Slam matches, that's pretty pathetic. That's pretty much a five set match in every grand slam he's played. The fewer five setters played, the higher your class (for the elite players imo).

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Can't believe he was pushed to five sets in 48 Grand Slam matches, that's pretty pathetic. That's pretty much a five set match in every grand slam he's played. The fewer five setters played, the higher your class (for the elite players imo).

What a surprise for you to come out with a statement like this.

uNIVERSE mAN
09-12-2005, 05:09 PM
What a surprise for you to come out with a statement like this.

say what you want, you know he had a problem with focus, he made matches tougher than they had to be. When he wanted to really turn it on he could, but he gave away weak sets like crazy year round and even in slams, although I guess some of that had to do with his blood condition.

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 05:20 PM
say what you want, you know he had a problem with focus, he made matches tougher than they had to be. When he wanted to really turn it on he could, but he gave away weak sets like crazy year round and even in slams, although I guess some of that had to do with his blood condition.

I am not even a Sampras fan, but he did what he needed to in the Slams, though he struggled at RG.

Borg played 27 5 set matches does that mean he lacked class?

Action Jackson
09-23-2005, 08:49 PM
With today's match between Nico Lapentti and Koubek there has been a change in the records.

Nico Lapentti is now 23-10
Stefan Koubek is at 10-6

Grinder
09-23-2005, 09:02 PM
Impressive record for Lapentti.

Action Jackson
09-24-2005, 05:52 AM
Nico Lapentti loves the 5 setters and I remember when he beat 3 Swedes in a row in 5 sets Thomas Johansson, Norman and Tillström, though also the famous RG 5 setter where he led against big Al Costa and Costa ran him down when Lapentti was cramping, bruising claycourt tennis at its best.

Leo
09-24-2005, 02:42 PM
Nico Lapentti loves the 5 setters and I remember when he beat 3 Swedes in a row in 5 sets Thomas Johansson, Norman and Tillström, though also the famous RG 5 setter where he led against big Al Costa and Costa ran him down when Lapentti was cramping, bruising claycourt tennis at its best.

That between-the-legs lob winner :worship: But Costa mocking Lapentti's cramps :rolleyes:

It was definitely nice to see Nicolas get a big win again. He's back to being a 5-set champ.

Scotso
09-24-2005, 02:54 PM
Nico Lapentti loves the 5 setters and I remember when he beat 3 Swedes in a row in 5 sets Thomas Johansson, Norman and Tillström, though also the famous RG 5 setter where he led against big Al Costa and Costa ran him down when Lapentti was cramping, bruising claycourt tennis at its best.

I miss Tillstrom :hearts:

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 05:22 AM
That between-the-legs lob winner :worship: But Costa mocking Lapentti's cramps :rolleyes:

It was definitely nice to see Nicolas get a big win again. He's back to being a 5-set champ.

Nicolas has been in some long matches for sure and yes I think he came back from 2 sets down in one of those RG matches as well, but Costa was a warrior in that tournament.

He does have an outstanding record and I think he will win his match against Melzer.

Action Jackson
11-21-2005, 06:26 AM
With his win yesterday Nalbandian has joined the list with a 60 per cent success rate in 5 set matches.

drf716
11-21-2005, 06:32 AM
who has the most 5-set matches?

Action Jackson
11-21-2005, 06:45 AM
who has the most 5-set matches?

It's in the table above, it's Björkman of the current players.

mandoura
11-22-2005, 12:06 PM
Great thread. I haven't seen it before.

Action Jackson
12-05-2005, 03:23 AM
Hrbaty with that win over Ljubicic goes to 13-7 in 5 set matches.

Action Jackson
02-02-2006, 02:58 AM
Updated this thread again.

Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Escude 10 3 76.92
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Safin 22 9 70.97
Hewitt 19 8 70.37
N.Lapentti 22 10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11 5 68.75
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Hrbaty 16 8 66.66
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Nieminen 8 4 66.66
Björkman 23 12 65.71
T.Johansson 15 8 65.22
Gonzalez 8 5 61.54
Corretja 14 9 60.87
Santoro 18 12 60.87
Vicente 9 6 60.00



- Hewitt and Hrbaty have moved up the rankings.
- Santoro is in and Nalbandian is out of the list.

Berdych and Baghdatis so far have excellent 5 set records.

Berdych is 6-0 and Baghdatis is 4-0

shotgun
02-02-2006, 03:09 AM
Nice.

Btw, is there a thread for the worst 5 set records, GWH? :p

lau
02-02-2006, 03:14 AM
Nice.

Btw, is there a thread for the worst 5 set records, GWH? :p
That could be interesting :p

Action Jackson
02-02-2006, 03:15 AM
Nice.

Btw, is there a thread for the worst 5 set records, GWH? :p

I will have to find the right critiera for that one, there has to be a minimal percentage and matches like I have done here. Ljubo, Gaudio and Calleri would be there in this list somewhere.

- Chela and Blake have never won one.
- Gaudio has only won 5 setters at RG.

jole
02-02-2006, 03:16 AM
Nice.

Btw, is there a thread for the worst 5 set records, GWH? :p

Vamos Gordo. :D

Action Jackson
02-02-2006, 03:19 AM
Vamos Gordo. :D

I witnessed the only one that he managed to win. :)

Hola Mr. SK
02-02-2006, 03:19 AM
Thanks for the update.
Marat from 15-7 up to 22-9. impressive :yeah:

shotgun
02-02-2006, 03:25 AM
I will have to find the right critiera for that one, there has to be a minimal percentage and matches like I have done here. Ljubo, Gaudio and Calleri would be there in this list somewhere.

- Chela and Blake have never won one.
- Gaudio has only won 5 setters at RG.

The criteria could be the same for minimal matches (10), but the maximum percentage would depend mostly on the number of players that have a record with a percentage below the max. established. Maybe 20%, 30% could be a good max. percentage.

It's strange seeing Ljubo, Gaudio and Calleri in this list since they seem to have good DC records, then again there are also the records at GS tournaments...

Action Jackson
02-02-2006, 03:30 AM
The criteria could be the same for minimal matches (10), but the maximum percentage would depend mostly on the number of players that have a record with a percentage below the max. established. Maybe 20%, 30% could be a good max. percentage.

It's strange seeing Ljubo, Gaudio and Calleri in this list since they seem to have good DC records, then again there are also the records at GS tournaments...

I will do that and just trying to find the right percentage is the thing at the moment, once that is done, then I will get onto it.

shotgun
02-02-2006, 03:33 AM
I will do that and just trying to find the right percentage is the thing at the moment, once that is done, then I will get onto it.

Thanks, we all appreciate it. ;)

Cervantes
02-02-2006, 06:53 AM
Berdych is 6-0 and Baghdatis is 4-0

It's the otherway around: Berdych 4-0 and Baghdatis 6-0

Action Jackson
02-02-2006, 07:00 AM
It's the otherway around: Berdych 4-0 and Baghdatis 6-0

Far from it with Berdych he is 6-0 and here is the evidence to prove this.

Tomas Berdych

2004 US Open R1 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) W 6-3 2-6 6-2 1-6 6-3

2004 US Open R3 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) W 2-6 6-1 6-3 4-6 6-1

2004 Davis Cup Ramon Delgado (PAR) W 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4

2005 Davis Cup Tommy Haas (GER) W 4-6 4-6 6-1 7-6(9) 6-3

2005 Davis Cup Nicolas Kiefer (GER) W 6-7(5) 6-3 2-6 6-4 7-5

2005 Paris AMS Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) W 6-3 6-4 3-6 4-6 6-4

Action Jackson
02-03-2006, 02:49 AM
Thanks, we all appreciate it. ;)

Only a few people will appreciate it, but have found the right numbers for the worst 5 set records.

Something very horrible for deivid and myself. LaLo is 7-2 at the moment, just hope that he loses his next 5 setter.

MisterQ
02-03-2006, 04:20 AM
How was Todd Martin in five-setters?

Action Jackson
02-03-2006, 04:34 AM
How was Todd Martin in five-setters?

For memory he was around the 60 percent ratio.

Action Jackson
04-07-2006, 05:26 PM
Safin goes to 23-9

Billabong
04-07-2006, 05:53 PM
Marat's record is awesome:yeah:

joeb_uk
04-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Damn! I almost forgot to ask george, it seems as if mantilla has retired? He hasnt played for months, last match I think was the usopen against coria?

Action Jackson
04-08-2006, 08:43 AM
Gonzalez goes to 9-6

Action Jackson
05-25-2006, 04:07 PM
Since Escude has officially retired it seems Mantilla has the best record, but from the way things are going now, he will be joining him soon.

Jimnik
05-25-2006, 04:44 PM
I think Juanqui has a 17-12 record. Is that good enough?

Jimnik
05-25-2006, 04:59 PM
Btw, I believe Dima has a 6-1 record so he'll definately be on the list after playing 3 more 5-set matches.

Jimnik
05-25-2006, 05:11 PM
Kolya just about makes the list. He is 6-4.

Boris Franz Ecker
05-25-2006, 06:09 PM
Gimelstob 7-3
Philippoussis 15-7
Sargsian 10-6
Ferrero 17-11
Davydenko 6-4
Ilie 6-4
Knowles 6-4

Action Jackson
05-25-2006, 06:12 PM
Sargsian and Ilie have retired and Ferrero does not make the grade percentage wise.

Broomie
05-25-2006, 07:59 PM
Marat 23-9 record hasn't been updated in the 1st post with all the records :)
Thx for the great work.

In marat's case it shows 2 things:
1. He's not mentally weak, he just is a no show sometimes
2. He knows how to make things harder on himself :)

Jimnik
05-26-2006, 01:51 AM
Gimelstob 7-3
Philippoussis 15-7
Sargsian 10-6
Ferrero 17-11
Davydenko 6-4
Ilie 6-4
Knowles 6-4
As I said in my earlier post, I think JC's record is 17-12, which gives him 58.6%. He needs to win his next 5-set match to get on the list.

tennis_freak67
05-29-2006, 06:19 PM
Lapentti is now 23 - 10 which is 69.69% :woohoo:

Santoro is now 18-13

Experimentee
05-29-2006, 06:55 PM
Funny that Gimelstob is up there. He isnt exactly known for his fitness, quite the opposite actually :lol:

Action Jackson
05-30-2006, 07:07 AM
These will be updated in full after RG and old Lapentti loves his 5 setters.

Action Jackson
05-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Hrbaty up to 17-8 now.

Experimentee
05-31-2006, 06:12 PM
Hrbaty's last 5 Grand Slam matches have been 5 setters, and 3 of those were when he was 2 sets to love up :help:

I think he's trying to set the record for most 5 setters in a row at Grand Slams, the most consecutive Grand Slam matches was not enough for him.
Out of the 25 five setters, maybe only half of those should have been 5 sets.

Billabong
05-31-2006, 06:48 PM
what about Kiefer;)?

Neely
05-31-2006, 08:19 PM
what about Kiefer;)?
He is not among the best because he is only 12-10 after today. But at least he is positive currently because this was not always the case in his career and he carried a negative or only even record until the end of 2004. But since 2005 he went 7-2 in five-setters and this includes three comebacks from 0-2 sets down, so not too bad recently.

Action Jackson
06-01-2006, 01:45 PM
Big Dom loving the 5 setters, he is on a tear and now moves to 18-8.

its.like.that
06-01-2006, 02:01 PM
Hrbaty's last 5 Grand Slam matches have been 5 setters, and 3 of those were when he was 2 sets to love up :help:

I think he's trying to set the record for most 5 setters in a row at Grand Slams, the most consecutive Grand Slam matches was not enough for him.
Out of the 25 five setters, maybe only half of those should have been 5 sets.

That's now six 5 setters in a row at Grand Slams for Hrbaty.

bad gambler
06-01-2006, 02:05 PM
Baghdatis' perfect 5 set record comes to an end today

kindablue
06-01-2006, 03:23 PM
Baghdatis' perfect 5 set record comes to an end today

Shame really!!! After the tiebreak we all thaught
he had this in the bagh :(

Action Jackson
06-01-2006, 03:33 PM
Baghdatis' perfect 5 set record comes to an end today

Didn't expect him to lose it, when it went the distance.

Hewitt and Hrbaty now and I don't think this one will go 5 sets either.

Action Jackson
06-04-2006, 09:39 AM
Tursunov loses his 1st 5 setter after leading 2 sets to love.

Action Jackson
06-12-2006, 07:51 AM
An update after RG.

Lapentti and Hrbaty move up the list.

Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Safin 23 9 71.88
Hewitt 19 8 70.37
Gimelstob 7 3 70.00
N.Lapentti 23 10 69.69
Hrbaty 18 8 69.23
El Ayanoui 11 5 68.75
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Hrbaty 18 8 69.23
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Nieminen 8 4 66.66
Björkman 23 12 65.71
T.Johansson 15 9 62.50
Corretja 14 9 60.87
Gonzalez 9 6 60.00
Vicente 9 6 60.00
Davydenko 6 4 60.00
Knowles 6 4 60.00

Action Jackson
06-28-2006, 09:37 PM
Thanks to LaLo losing against Ljubo he fails to take top spot and that is a good thing.
He is now 7-3 in his 5 setters and he has lost 2 big ones to PimPim at the AO and to Ljubo.

PamposCypriot
06-28-2006, 09:44 PM
Another 5 set win for Baghdatis... whats the score now?

Action Jackson
06-28-2006, 09:46 PM
Another 5 set win for Baghdatis... But why he isnt on that list? Didnt read the 11 pages so dont know how it goes...

Read the 1st page all the criteria is there in the initial post.

Basically 10 matches need to be played.

Action Jackson
06-29-2006, 03:23 PM
Berdman is now gone 7-0 in 5 setters. Not bad for someone who is meant to be a bit of a mental midget.

Tomas Berdych

2004 US Open R1 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) W 6-3 2-6 6-2 1-6 6-3
2004 US Open R3 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) W 2-6 6-1 6-3 4-6 6-1
2004 Davis Cup Ramon Delgado (PAR) W 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4
2005 Davis Cup Tommy Haas (GER) W 4-6 4-6 6-1 7-6(9) 6-3
2005 Davis Cup Nicolas Kiefer (GER) W 6-7(5) 6-3 2-6 6-4 7-5
2005 Paris AMS Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) W 6-3 6-4 3-6 4-6 6-4
2006 Wimbledon Fabrice Santoro (FRA) W 6-4 6-7(8) 2-6 7-6(5) 6-4

Scotso
06-29-2006, 03:25 PM
If Tomas is going to blow, he usually does it before the fifth set.

Action Jackson
06-29-2006, 05:25 PM
Björkman now goes to 24-12 in 5 set matches.

Action Jackson
06-29-2006, 07:35 PM
After the Safin/Gonzalez match:

Safin is 23-10
Gonzo is 10-6

Leo
06-29-2006, 07:39 PM
Berdman is now gone 7-0 in 5 setters. Not bad for someone who is meant to be a bit of a mental midget.

Tomas Berdych

2004 US Open R1 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) W 6-3 2-6 6-2 1-6 6-3
2004 US Open R3 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) W 2-6 6-1 6-3 4-6 6-1
2004 Davis Cup Ramon Delgado (PAR) W 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4
2005 Davis Cup Tommy Haas (GER) W 4-6 4-6 6-1 7-6(9) 6-3
2005 Davis Cup Nicolas Kiefer (GER) W 6-7(5) 6-3 2-6 6-4 7-5
2005 Paris AMS Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) W 6-3 6-4 3-6 4-6 6-4
2006 Wimbledon Fabrice Santoro (FRA) W 6-4 6-7(8) 2-6 7-6(5) 6-4

Berdych has played just 4 tiebreaks in those seven 5-set matches! That's very surprising to me. Those first two scorelines are funny, so many lopsided sets and up-and-down play. Youzhny at least got revenge on him last summer in Cincy.

its.like.that
06-30-2006, 08:02 PM
Berdych moves to 8-0 in 5 setters.

Tomas Berdych

2004 US Open R1 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) W 6-3 2-6 6-2 1-6 6-3
2004 US Open R3 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) W 2-6 6-1 6-3 4-6 6-1
2004 Davis Cup Ramon Delgado (PAR) W 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4
2005 Davis Cup Tommy Haas (GER) W 4-6 4-6 6-1 7-6(9) 6-3
2005 Davis Cup Nicolas Kiefer (GER) W 6-7(5) 6-3 2-6 6-4 7-5
2005 Paris AMS F Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) W 6-3 6-4 3-6 4-6 6-4
2006 Wimbledon R2 Fabrice Santoro (FRA) W 6-4 6-7(8) 2-6 7-6(5) 6-4
2006 Wimbledon R3 Tommy Haas (GER) W 2-6 7-5 7-6(7) 4-6 8-6

Scotso
06-30-2006, 08:43 PM
Tomas :worship:

Grenouille
06-30-2006, 09:58 PM
It would be better if Tomas could beat all these guys in
3 sets.

sammy2
07-01-2006, 12:00 AM
Hewitt won another today so he is now 20/8

Scotso
07-01-2006, 03:31 AM
It would be better if Tomas could beat all these guys in
3 sets.

That's true, but that's Tomas :p

Action Jackson
07-01-2006, 11:35 AM
Berdman wants the top spot.

its.like.that
07-01-2006, 11:54 AM
It would be better if Tomas could beat all these guys in
3 sets.

why would it be better?

Don't you enjoy the tension of a 5-setter?

Action Jackson
07-06-2006, 10:35 AM
why would it be better?

Don't you enjoy the tension of a 5-setter?

Well unless you're Tennis Fool who thinks Slams should be best of 3 sets.

Action Jackson
07-06-2006, 10:40 AM
Jonas the warrior keeps going and is 26-12

Nieminen with this win over Tursunov is 9-4

Both Ancic and Tursunov with their next 5 set match will enter the list as they are both 6-3 at the moment.

CmonAussie
07-07-2006, 12:55 AM
This might be useless to some people, but I have decided to post some of the best current 5 set records.

The critieria that I have used is that they have played a minimum of 10 5 setters and they have a 60 per cent or better winning percentage.

Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Safin 23 9 71.88
Hewitt 19 8 70.37
Gimelstob 7 3 70.00
N.Lapentti 22 10 68.75
El Ayanoui 11 5 68.75
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Hrbaty 16 8 66.66
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Nieminen 8 4 66.66
Björkman 23 12 65.71
T.Johansson 15 8 65.22
Gonzalez 8 5 61.54
Corretja 14 9 60.87
Santoro 18 12 60.87
Vicente 9 6 60.00
Davydenko 6 4 60.00
Knowles 6 4 60.00



If there are any other current players that I have missed out, post away but they must have played at least 10 5 setters and have 60 % or better winning ratio.

George Mate :wavey: ...
Can you update your list cobber :cool: ...Safin has since lost another 5-setter to Fernando & Hewitt has won another 5-setter against Lee ;) ..

Action Jackson
07-07-2006, 01:03 AM
It will be updated at the end of the tournament.

CmonAussie
07-07-2006, 05:14 AM
It will be updated at the end of the tournament.
OK cheers mate :cool:

Fedex
07-07-2006, 05:31 AM
It will be updated at the end of the tournament.
When was the last time you updated this, George? I ask this because I've noticed that Baghdatis is not on the list and he has a fantastic 5 set record.

Action Jackson
07-07-2006, 05:34 AM
When was the last time you updated this, George? I ask this because I've noticed that Baghdatis is not on the list and he has a fantastic 5 set record.

Have to play 10 matches over 5 sets and he hasn't done that yet.

Action Jackson
07-09-2006, 05:50 PM
Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Hewitt 20 8 71.43
Gimelstob 7 3 70.00
Lalo (Lopez) 7 3 70.00
Safin 23 10 69.69
N.Lapentti 23 10 69.69
Hrbaty 18 8 69.23
Nieminen 9 4 69.23
El Aynaoui 11 5 68.75
Björkman 26 12 68.42
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
T.Johansson 15 9 62.50
Corretja 14 9 60.87
Vicente 9 6 60.00
Davydenko 6 4 60.00
Knowles 6 4 60.00

Some changes Hewitt, Nieminen and Björkman move up and Safin goes down.

Footnotes.

Berdych is 8-0
Tursunov 6-3
Ancic 6-3
Baghdatis 6-1 (I think)

Action Jackson
07-13-2006, 06:02 AM
Hewitt is moving closer to the top spot. The best thing is the last 5 set match he lost was when he was up 2 sets to love.

Merton
07-13-2006, 06:06 AM
Hewitt is moving closer to the top spot. The best thing is the last 5 set match he lost was when he was up 2 sets to love.

George, was that against Robredo at RG? I remember that match since it was a rare case of cheering for Lleyton.

Action Jackson
07-13-2006, 06:08 AM
George, was that against Robredo at RG? I remember that match since it was a rare case of cheering for Lleyton.

Yes, that was against Boredo at RG and it wasn't a bad match either, that was in the year of Costa the warrior with his outstanding defence of his title in 2003, when he played crap but managed to win all those matches before Ferrero took him out.

Action Jackson
07-14-2006, 06:46 AM
Funny that a guy who is meant to be a mental midget like Berdych is 8-0 in 5 setters, then again Safin has a great record in them as well. It seems like it gives them more time for them to have their bad moments.

The one common theme among all of the ones on the list is that they have for the vast majority of time blown a 2 sets to love lead.

I saw Mantilla do it at the AO against Grosjean, the body gave out and Seb played well.

Hrbaty did this year against the PMK at the AO and Safin did at Wimbledon and Nieminen blew one against Henman at Wimbledon as well.

CmonAussie
07-14-2006, 07:06 AM
What about Mark Poo Poo Scud Dud~ he`s supposed to be a mental midget too but his 5-set record is one Federer would envy!

Action Jackson
07-14-2006, 08:02 AM
Federer would be quite happy with a 5 set record like the Poo, however he has won 8 Slams without having to win too many 5 setters and that should say something about him.

The Pro
07-14-2006, 09:08 AM
What's Nadal's 5 set record?

This is information I find hard to come by. :o

Action Jackson
07-14-2006, 09:12 AM
Nadal is 6-2.

Action Jackson
07-14-2006, 10:56 AM
If that's the last five-setter Hewitt lost, do you by any chance know about how many he's played (and won) since then? It's pretty amazing that he's been so strong in five-setters since then, especially since Tommy's win over him was right towards the end of his reign as world #1.

He has won 7 in a row since then.

Action Jackson
08-31-2006, 05:57 AM
Johansson is now 15-10

With Nalbandian winning today he moves to 12-7.

Action Jackson
09-01-2006, 07:38 AM
Lalo now moves to 7-4.

Action Jackson
09-04-2006, 03:27 AM
No surprise that the Safin v Nalbandian and the Berdych and Tursunov matches went the distance and as it stands now.

Safin is 24-10

Nalbandian 12-8

Tursunov is 6-4

Berdych is now 9-0 and one more and he is in the list.

Action Jackson
09-04-2006, 07:24 AM
Here it is peoples, Berdych maybe inconsistent, but he is consistent in winning 5 setters.

Tomas Berdych

2004 US Open R1 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) W 6-3 2-6 6-2 1-6 6-3
2004 US Open R3 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) W 2-6 6-1 6-3 4-6 6-1
2004 Davis Cup Ramon Delgado (PAR) W 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4
2005 Davis Cup Tommy Haas (GER) W 4-6 4-6 6-1 7-6(9) 6-3
2005 Davis Cup Nicolas Kiefer (GER) W 6-7(5) 6-3 2-6 6-4 7-5
2005 Paris AMS F Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) W 6-3 6-4 3-6 4-6 6-4
2006 Wimbledon R2 Fabrice Santoro (FRA) W 6-4 6-7(8) 2-6 7-6(5) 6-4
2006 Wimbledon R3 Tommy Haas (GER) W 2-6 7-5 7-6(7) 4-6 8-6
2006 US Open R3 Dmitry Tursunov (RUS) W 6-7(2) 6-3 3-6 6-3 6-4

9-0

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 06:01 AM
Hewitt wins his 8th 5 set match in a row and moves to 21-8 now.

lucashg
09-05-2006, 06:03 AM
Hewitt wins his 8th 5 set match in a row and moves to 21-8 now.

Impressive. Is Gasquet already in the "worst" list? :o

Neely
09-05-2006, 06:13 AM
Impressive. Is Gasquet already in the "worst" list? :o
not even close, he only played 7 or 8 five-set matches so far

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 06:24 AM
Impressive. Is Gasquet already in the "worst" list? :o

No, not yet and Blake is waiting to head that list.

CmonAussie
09-05-2006, 06:33 AM
Hewitt wins his 8th 5 set match in a row and moves to 21-8 now.
:wavey:
Yeah not a bad record from my man Rocky Llegs...8-in-a-row :worship: ,& actually he`s only lost one 5-setter in the last 5-years :worship: ..>>That was to Robredo at the 03 FO :sad: .So Hewitt has won 14\15 5-setters since the beginning of 2002 ;) .

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 06:49 AM
Funny that Hewitt lost his last 5 setter when he was leading 2 sets to love.

CmonAussie
09-05-2006, 06:51 AM
Funny that Hewitt lost his last 5 setter when he was leading 2 sets to love.
Ironic sure ;) , but it happens to the best of them..Even Jesus Federer has done it a couple of times (TMC 05 & Davis Cup 03) :p

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 07:13 AM
It's happened to nearly every top player, yes Safin did it this year. I mean then there is Krickstein who came back from 2 sets down 10 times and won the match.

CmonAussie
09-05-2006, 07:52 AM
It's happened to nearly every top player, yes Safin did it this year. I mean then there is Krickstein who came back from 2 sets down 10 times and won the match.
:cool:
While we`re on the irony thing..>> wasn`t Krickstein the guy who lost to Connors in the 1991 USO 4th Rd/QF? match after leading 2-sets-to-love :p :wavey:

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 08:05 AM
:cool:
While we`re on the irony thing..>> wasn`t Krickstein the guy who lost to Connors in the 1991 USO 4th Rd/QF? match after leading 2-sets-to-love :p :wavey:

No, it was 2 sets to 1 and he lost in the stupid 5th set tiebreaker.

Boris Franz Ecker
09-05-2006, 09:12 AM
It's happened to nearly every top player, yes Safin did it this year. I mean then there is Krickstein who came back from 2 sets down 10 times and won the match.

8 times.
The other 2 times the opponent retired.
That can't be counted.

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 09:15 AM
8 times.
The other 2 times the opponent retired.
That can't be counted.

It still counts. So does Lendl's Aus Open not count cause Edberg had a back problem? I believe it does.

Boris Franz Ecker
09-05-2006, 09:47 AM
It still counts. So does Lendl's Aus Open not count cause Edberg had a back problem? I believe it does.

Retirements can't be counted as comebacks from 0-2 sets down.
Of course also not as 5 set matches. They should be listed separately.

Or one would have to count something like
Russell def. Bruguera 4-6 5-7 6-3 ret at the FO 01 as a comeback.
That wouldn't make sense.
Even if the fifth set has already begun.

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 09:59 AM
Retirements can't be counted as comebacks from 0-2 sets down.
Of course also not as 5 set matches. They should be listed separately.

Or one would have to count something like
Russell def. Bruguera 4-6 5-7 6-3 ret at the FO 01 as a comeback.
That wouldn't make sense.
Even if the fifth set has already begun.

Retirements are counted in H2H stats, but not walkovers. In this case it's not a walkover and retirements aren't counted seperately, just the fact that RET alone indicates what happened at the end of the match.

The only reason you are bringing this up cause Becker did the same feat 10x as well and this discussion is going nowhere. It's not Krickstein's fault that Manson and Agassi couldn't continue.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=1536096&highlight=Krickstein#post1536096

Action Jackson
09-06-2006, 05:05 AM
Seriously back on topic. I have a feeling that Blake will end Berdych's run of 5 set wins and I hope I am wrong.

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 06:59 AM
Safin after loses to Haas is 24-11

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:22 AM
Davydenko with his comeback is now 7-4 in 5 setters.

Action Jackson
09-13-2006, 12:49 PM
This is the new list after the US Open.

Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Hewitt 21 8 72.41
Gimelstob 7 3 70.00
N.Lapentti 23 10 69.69
Hrbaty 18 8 69.23
Nieminen 9 4 69.23
El Aynaoui 11 5 68.75
Safin 24 11 68.57
Björkman 26 12 68.42
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Davydenko 7 4 63.63
Lalo (Lopez) 7 4 63.63
T.Johansson 15 10 60.00
Nalbandian 12 8 60.00
Vicente 9 6 60.00
Tursunov 6 4 60.00
Knowles 6 4 60.00


Berdych needs one more and he is at the top of the tree.

its.like.that
09-22-2006, 08:25 PM
Hrbaty defeated Vliegen in the opening Davis Cup tie between Slovakia and Belgium: 2-6 6-4 6-3 3-6 6-2.

Dominik moves to 19-8 overall.

Norrage
09-22-2006, 08:30 PM
Hewitt in trouble

its.like.that
09-22-2006, 08:35 PM
And George, you'll know more on this than me, but have Mantilla and Corretja officially retired?

If so, they should be removed from the list.

Action Jackson
09-23-2006, 08:06 AM
And George, you'll know more on this than me, but have Mantilla and Corretja officially retired?

If so, they should be removed from the list.

Mantilla hasn't officially, but Corretja has and Alex will be removed.

its.like.that
09-23-2006, 06:48 PM
Hewitt's loss to Chucho drops him to 21-9 overall.

Action Jackson
09-24-2006, 03:22 PM
After this win Tursunov moves up to 7-4 in 5 set matches.

sanpo
09-24-2006, 04:19 PM
GeorgeWHitler, could you kindly tell where you get the 5-set records for each player?

Action Jackson
09-26-2006, 06:43 AM
GeorgeWHitler, could you kindly tell where you get the 5-set records for each player?

www.tenniscorner.net and then I update it from there.

Action Jackson
09-26-2006, 06:54 AM
This is the new list after Davis Cup.

Rank: Win Loss Percentage
Mantilla 8 3 72.72
Nieminen 10 4 71.43
Hrbaty 19 8 70.37
Hewitt 21 9 70.00
Gimelstob 7 3 70.00
N.Lapentti 23 10 69.69
El Aynaoui 11 5 68.75
Safin 24 11 68.57
Björkman 26 12 68.42
The Poo 15 7 68.18
Spadea 10 5 66.66
Koubek 10 5 66.66
Davydenko 7 4 63.63
Tursunov 7 4 63.63
Lalo (Lopez) 7 4 63.63
T.Johansson 15 10 60.00
Nalbandian 12 8 60.00
Vicente 9 6 60.00
Knowles 6 4 60.00


Hewitt drops down the table, whereas Tursunov and Hrbaty move up.

Seneca
09-26-2006, 08:26 AM
Nieminen played a surprise 5-setter against Macedonia in Davis Cup, that should put him at the #2 spot.

Action Jackson
10-22-2006, 11:58 AM
Nieminen played a surprise 5-setter against Macedonia in Davis Cup, that should put him at the #2 spot.

Thanks very much for that and it has been updated.

Voo de Mar
10-26-2006, 07:37 AM
J.Nieminen - T.Pocock 4-5(4) 4-5(5) 5-4(3) 4-1 5-3 (Great Britain F11, 2000)

That match is counting for Nieminen's five-setters?

Action Jackson
10-26-2006, 07:41 AM
J.Nieminen - T.Pocock 4-5(4) 4-5(5) 5-4(3) 4-1 5-3 (Great Britain F11, 2000)

That match is counting for Nieminen's five-setters?

Futures events don't count.

Action Jackson
01-21-2007, 10:42 PM
Some players involved in the AO and will be fully updated after AO.

Hewitt goes to 22-9

Safin to 26-11

Björkman is 27-12

Koubek is 10-6

T.Johansson is 16-10

Nalbandian is 14-8

Jimnik
01-22-2007, 12:06 AM
Even though he lost, Tipsarevic can now go on the list with a record of 7-3.

hammett
01-22-2007, 12:38 AM
Nalbandian is 14-8

two questions GWH

How many of of these Nalbandian wins were from 0-2 and

how many of the losses were from 2-0??

:confused: Just curious ;)

Thanks

Action Jackson
01-22-2007, 01:39 AM
two questions GWH

How many of of these Nalbandian wins were from 0-2 and

how many of the losses were from 2-0??

:confused: Just curious ;)

Thanks

6 times from 2 sets down.

He has lost to Roddick and Baghdatis from 2 sets up for memory. There maybe others.

Foosimoo
01-22-2007, 02:11 AM
After AO 2007, Ollie is 9-14 in 5 set matches :o

hammett
01-22-2007, 02:15 AM
6 times from 2 sets down.



:eek: Thank you :)

Now I remember, they were against Tursunov in RG, Murray in W, Fed in TMC + 2 recent but the other :confused:

Also
Do you have the record of active who did this more?

Ok I'll stop :o :lol:

Voo de Mar
01-22-2007, 02:26 AM
Also
Do you have the record of active who did this more?

Ok I'll stop :o :lol:

Do you know this thread?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=34250

Voo de Mar
01-22-2007, 02:37 AM
After AO 2007, Ollie is 9-14 in 5 set matches :o

10-15 :p

1:0 Fromberg, Richard (AUS) 4-6 6-3 3-6 7-6(4) 6-4
2:0 Norman, Magnus (SWE) 6-4 2-6 6-4 6-7(4) 6-1
2:1 Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 6-4 6-1 1-6 3-6 3-6
2:2 Arazi, Hicham (MAR) 6-2 4-6 1-6 7-5 3-6
2:3 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 3-6 6-3 3-6 6-3 3-6
2:4 Safin, Marat (RUS) 6-4 2-6 6-3 3-6 3-6
3:4 Di Pasquale, Arnaud (FRA) 4-6 4-6 6-3 6-3 6-4
3:5 Novak, Jiri (CZE) 6-7(3) 6-7(5) 6-4 6-4 3-6
3:6 Browne, Federico (ARG) 6-4 6-2 1-6 1-6 3-6
4:6 Dupuis, Antony (FRA) 2-6 6-3 4-6 7-6(5) 6-4
4:7 Melzer, Jurgen (AUT) 1-6 6-7(4) 7-5 6-2 1-6
4:8 Koubek, Stefan (AUT) 7-6(4) 2-6 5-7 6-4 3-6
4:9 Black, Wayne (ZIM) 6-3 6-7(3) 3-6 6-3 2-6
5:9 Starace, Potito (ITA) 6-1 4-6 4-6 6-0 6-3
6:9 Moya, Carlos (ESP) 4-6 6-4 6-3 6-7(5) 7-5
6:10 Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 6-2 6-3 3-6 4-6 0-6
7:10 Kiefer, Nicolas (GER) 7-5 2-6 3-6 6-2 6-3
8:10 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 1-6 7-5 6-7(3) 6-1 6-3
8:11 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB) 7-6(8) 6-3 6-7(3) 2-6 4-6
8:12 Roddick, Andy (USA) 7-6(4) 6-7(4) 6-7(5) 6-4 3-6
8:13 Luczak, Peter (AUS) 7-6(4) 4-6 1-6 7-6(1) 1-6
8:14 Martin, Alberto (ESP) 5-7 6-4 7-6(5) 1-6 4-6
9:14 Sweeting, Ryan (USA) 6-2 3-6 4-6 6-4 6-0
10:14 Guccione, Chris (AUS) 3-6 7-5 7-5 6-7(4) 9-7
10:15 Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 6-4 3-6 1-6 6-4 4-6

Foosimoo
01-22-2007, 04:16 AM
Ahh, I missed Di Pasquale and Hrbaty :p

Fedex
01-22-2007, 07:19 AM
6 times from 2 sets down.

He has lost to Roddick and Baghdatis from 2 sets up for memory. There maybe others.
6 times is quite impressive! George, could you tell me what Roger's record in 5 set matches is in Grand slam events? I know I could do the research, but I dont feel like doing that right now.

Action Jackson
01-22-2007, 11:03 AM
6 times is quite impressive! George, could you tell me what Roger's record in 5 set matches is in Grand slam events? I know I could do the research, but I dont feel like doing that right now.

He is around 50 percent.

Action Jackson
01-28-2007, 06:16 AM
Davydenko is out and Tisparevic is in.

Safin, Björkman, Nalbandian, Hewitt and ToJo move up and Koubek is down.

Action Jackson
02-10-2007, 05:57 AM
Hewitt now falls to 22-10 after losing to Vliegen.

Voo de Mar
02-10-2007, 08:09 AM
Firts five-sets win for Vligen! :yeah:

Action Jackson
02-12-2007, 08:46 AM
Hewitt is 23-10 now with the win over Rochus.

Action Jackson
04-28-2007, 10:31 PM
Great to see Mantilla and Nieminen up there.

Action Jackson
04-28-2007, 10:33 PM
Hewitt is 23-11 actually after losing to Vliegen.

Voo de Mar
04-29-2007, 12:09 AM
Hewitt is 23-11 actually after losing to Vliegen.

Are you sure? :aplot:

Here is 10 Hewitt's 5-set defeats:
1) Vacek 2-6 4-6 6-1 6-2 3-6
2) Rodriguez 6-4 4-6 4-6 6-4 4-6
3) Medvedev 6-3 3-6 6-3 4-6 3-6
4) Ferreira 6-7(6) 6-3 7-6(5) 6-7(2) 2-6
5) Moya 6-4 1-6 7-5 2-6 5-7
6) Escude 6-4 4-6 3-6 6-4 4-6
7) Escude 6-4 3-6 6-3 3-6 4-6
8) Robredo 6-4 6-1 3-6 2-6 3-6
9) Acasuso 6-1 4-6 6-4 2-6 1-6
10) Vliegen 6-4 4-6 6-3 3-6 4-6

Where is 11th?

Action Jackson
04-29-2007, 08:42 AM
Vliegen got counted twice.

CmonAussie
04-29-2007, 10:01 AM
Vliegen got counted twice.

So Hewitt is 23-10 then,~ isn`t he;)

Action Jackson
04-29-2007, 10:08 AM
So Hewitt is 23-10 then,~ isn`t he;)

I answered Voo's question about the 11th when Vliegen was counted twice and on the first page the 23-10 is what reads there.

Action Jackson
05-30-2007, 03:57 AM
Hrbaty after losing to Ulihrach goes to 19-9.

Björkman coming back from 2 sets down against Luczak is now 28-12.

Voo de Mar
05-31-2007, 01:50 PM
Hewitt goes to 24-10 after beating Gaudio.

CmonAussie
05-31-2007, 02:00 PM
Hewitt goes to 24-10 after beating Gaudio.


:wavey:
Very happy to see Hewitt in such fighting form:worship:

BTW~ today was the 4th time Llegs has come back from 2-sets-to-love-down & win in 5:cool:
The other great Hewitt comebacks were:

*2001: FO Rd.4 vs. Canas
*2003: DC SF vs. Federer:)
*2007: AO Rd.1 vs. Russel
*2007: FO Rd.2 vs. Gaudio


>>> Most of Hewitt`s other 5-set wins were from 2-sets-to-one-down;)

stebs
05-31-2007, 02:03 PM
:wavey:
Very happy to see Hewitt in such fighting form:worship:

BTW~ today was the 4th time Llegs has come back from 2-sets-to-love-down & win in 5:cool:
The other great Hewitt comebacks were:

*2001: FO Rd.4 vs. Canas
*2003: DC SF vs. Federer:)
*2007: AO Rd.1 vs. Russel
*2007: FO Rd.2 vs. Gaudio


>>> Most of Hewitt`s other 5-set wins were from 2-sets-to-one-down;)
Still needs two more to catch up to Nalby though. :p

CmonAussie
05-31-2007, 02:08 PM
Still needs two more to catch up to Nalby though. :p


Nalbandian needs plenty of 2-sets-to-love-down-5-set-wins,~~> because Fat Dave has to lose weight:p

Rocky Llegs doesn`t need the extra workout but he still enjoys pushing the pain boundry:devil:

Langers
05-31-2007, 02:15 PM
*2003: DC SF vs. Federer:)
Best. Game. Ever. :worship: