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Best Endurance and Level of Fitness

Action Jackson
01-01-2004, 06:43 AM
Nominations are required for this poll.
If somehow Coria wins this poll, it would be surprising.

The reason I didn't include Agassi is, whilst he is very fit I don't think he has the capcity now to be able to back up consistently for successive gruelling matches as the other players listed.

rassklovn
01-01-2004, 06:50 AM
This is not an easy question for sure, I mean it could have been anyone of five choices but I think I will vote for Costa.

He is so strong, has outstanding endurance and very durable and last years efforts at the French were outstanding.

jrm
01-01-2004, 07:21 AM
Rainer, no doubt!

Vass
01-01-2004, 08:43 AM
Hewitt has the best from the list.

maratski
01-01-2004, 09:22 AM
Costa convinced me after watching his struggles in RG.

Kristen
01-01-2004, 09:32 AM
Firstly, George... did you mistakenly spell andy as o-t-h-e-r!? Just kidding ;)

I agree with jrm, I chose Rainer because I've seen more of him than the other players, and he looks the part... also, he's so dedicated (along with Burgsmuller ^_^) and I respect that. Here's hoping for a Rainer-Jonas final in Sydney! *seriously,....that would be the death of me!*

Kristen

Experimentee
01-01-2004, 12:02 PM
I disagree about Andre not being able to last successive matches, he did that at the Masters Cup where he reached the final after 4 long three setters, and he also had some tough matches at the US Open but still reached the semis. Hes unlikely to play two tough tournaments in a row, but a lot of tough matches in the same tournament would be fine.

I think Hrbaty though is a very good choice for endurance. If it rained and players had to play two or three matches in a day, my bet would be on Hrbaty to win the 2nd or 3rd match, and he often has in his career. Like Agassi, he puts in so much hard work and training to maintain his fitness, his idol was Ivan Lendl after all.

TennisLurker
01-01-2004, 02:03 PM
Costa and Cañas are the guys with the best endurance and Fitness IMO, but I will vote for Costa because last year when they met in Roland Garros, Costa won the fifth set.

Lendl was also the idol of Cañas when he was young.

TennisLurker
01-01-2004, 02:05 PM
I mean, two years ago, not last year.

Havok
01-01-2004, 04:48 PM
voted for Rainer, i'm pretty sure he'll win this poll. that's what his game is based on, so he should be the favorite, or at least one of them

star
01-01-2004, 04:53 PM
I can't really vote for Canas or Costa for something they didn't do this year. All these polls are a bit silly because the criteria for voting is not clearly stated.

For this year, Schuettler definitely and Hewitt a close second. His grit and endurance in his Davis Cup victory over Federer has to be one of the finest performances this year. But for day in and day out performance, I give the nod to Schuettler.

MisterQ
01-01-2004, 06:20 PM
Thank you for your explanation, George, but imo Agassi still should have been included, seeing how in the past few years he has become a standard of fitness. His game demonstrates how excellent fitness enables one to make full use of his talents and have many options at one's disposal without having to worry about fatigue. And while I do think we have seen Andre fall a little flat after long matches (I'm thinking vs. Sampras in USO2002 after his tough semi with Hewitt, for example), we have just as often seen it pay off tremendously (throughout Australia this year, and in comebacks like the Ancic match at the French).

Of those on the list, I chose Schuettler. He's a very hard worker and in very good shape!

guganumberone
01-01-2004, 07:17 PM
Why wasnt younes el aynauoi included in this poll?!?!?

Lee
01-01-2004, 08:08 PM
I think George not only ask for fitness here but also endurance. When you compare the number of matches played by Hewitt and Agassi with Rainer last year, Rainer is the sure winner.

ktwtennis
01-01-2004, 08:21 PM
I voted for Scheuttler because he was so consistent this year even though he's a tour veteran and never once looked tired this year!

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 05:06 AM
Good answers, keep them coming.

Star it was clear enough, Lee, Lurker and nearly everyone else that posted understood the question.

It's a combination of durability, endurance and fitness level and which players are the best in these factors.

Too bad this question wasn't asked a few years ago, as I don't think anyone on that list, no matter how fit they are, and there are plenty, who wouldn't come anywhere near Thomas Muster.

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 05:18 AM
Exp well I never questioned Agassi's fitness levels and I doubt whether for example he could play 2-3 consecutive 5 sets matches on clay, as you know 3 and 5 set matches are totally different matches. Of course you forget that he had the benefit of extra rest in the USO unlike some other players.

Star, no tennis has happened this year and yes in 2003 Costa had shown plenty of endurance in his FO defence coming back from 2 sets to love down 3 times, that's more difficult on clay than it is on a hardcourt.

Yes, Naldo it looks like we have 2 legitmate people leading this poll, and for once it's something that Safin, Federer and Roddick aren't in contention for, which makes a change.

Leo
01-02-2004, 05:34 AM
Surprisingly I'm only the 4th person to vote for Costa. His run at Roland Garros was phenomenal - one of the best achievements all year.

Is it me or is Canas a bit overrated in the endurance department? He's lost some big 5 set matches. For instance, the RG 2002 quarters against Costa he led by 2 sets ato 1 and 4-2 in the 4th before collapsing from fatigue and losing 6-0 in the 5th. Then there was the Stuttgart final the same year which he lost to Youzhny from 2 sets up.

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 05:46 AM
Well Canas was at least outlasted by a guy like Costa who is known for his outstanding fitness levels and ability to back up.

As you know Leo just because someone loses a match from 2 sets to love up, it's not always down to a lack of fitness, though that can be a factor.

None of them would match up to Muster, but I think I might vote for Costa or someone different.

Tingu
01-02-2004, 06:03 AM
I voted for Shuettler

Devotee
01-02-2004, 07:32 AM
I voted for Hewitt because I don't think I've ever seen him gasping for air during long sets;

he hardly ever grunts when he's tired (is he ever tired??); the guy's physical fitness is just extraordinary to watch. Inspiring, actually. :bounce:


Hewitt's been diagnosed with a medical problem concerning his
breathing.

Also, a year or 2 ago at Roland Garros, there was general
agreement that his legs finally gave out from successive
gruelling matches and that fact caused him to lose his match.

jumi
01-02-2004, 10:04 AM
well, there's no Olivier in this poll (although he should be here IMO...)so I voted for Rainer of course :)

Minimum_Chips
01-02-2004, 10:09 AM
You cannot go past Hrbaty. Mate, this guy rides his bike up mountains for relaxation!! He also want to run the New York marathon. Costa and Canas and many others work very hard and are very fit, BUT the bottom line is, the Dominator dominates.

He also is not affected by the heat, (in fact he likes it) so long AO matches are covered.

Action Jackson
01-02-2004, 10:21 AM
Hrbaty loves the fitness and endurance aspect, too bad he can't concentrate his mind for matches against people he should be beating.

Marine
01-02-2004, 01:39 PM
Clément.
(he did the mountain step of the Tour de France (l'alpe d'huez) in 59 minutes...armstrong does it in 39 minutes, it's not bad at all !!!!! :worship: lol

tennischick
01-02-2004, 02:26 PM
i too think Agassi should have been included. but even if he were, i would still vote for Rainer.

happy new year all!! ;)

Ma. Estefania
01-02-2004, 09:05 PM
If we're just talking about endurance and fitness, etc.....and not about results:

Then.....where's Lapentti here? :eek:

That man played at AO'99 about 5 matches of 5 sets, which ones lasted more than 3 hours each one, and lost the SF ag. Enqvist at 3 sets, but come on....the guy was already almost dead of tiredness.

Apart, at Davis Cup matches he plays the 2 singles matches, and the doubles' one too, that's 3 days in a row playing about 4 hours each match.

J. Corwin
01-02-2004, 09:06 PM
Rainer

Leo
01-03-2004, 02:10 AM
If we're just talking about endurance and fitness, etc.....and not about results:

Then.....where's Lapentti here? :eek:

That man played at AO'99 about 5 matches of 5 sets, which ones lasted more than 3 hours each one, and lost the SF ag. Enqvist at 3 sets, but come on....the guy was already almost dead of tiredness.

Apart, at Davis Cup matches he plays the 2 singles matches, and the doubles' one too, that's 3 days in a row playing about 4 hours each match.

True, he used to be have great endurance and that translated to terrific results in 5-setters. But recently his fitness has deteriorated a bit and therefore he has lost more 5-set matches. Hopefully he can one day return to his fitness of 1999.

Action Jackson
01-03-2004, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Leo
True, he used to be have great endurance and that translated to terrific results in 5-setters. But recently his fitness has deteriorated a bit and therefore he has lost more 5-set matches. Hopefully he can one day return to his fitness of 1999.

Well said Leo, and the Costa match at last years French Open is another example, in his earlier years Lapentti wouldn't have cramped like that.

To all those who think Agassi should have been included, that is why the other option is included. In this category he wouldn't compete with Costa, Hrbaty, Schuettler or Hewitt for example, and yes he is better than Coria in this aspect, but it's very subjective whether he is any better than the others on that list.

I wanted to see if people would vote honestly or just for their favourites,though there are some things where that is not even likely.

Pea
01-03-2004, 09:23 PM
It used to be Alex.:rolleyes: But Rainer takes it hadns down.

Leo
01-03-2004, 11:54 PM
Well said Leo, and the Costa match at last years French Open is another example, in his earlier years Lapentti wouldn't have cramped like that.

And then there was the Schalken match at Wimbledon a few weeks later which Lapentti lost from 2 sets to 1 up against a player not exactly known for his physical endurance and mental fortitude in 5-setters. That was a complete role reversal from their 1999 DC affair, which Lapentti won from 2 sets down.

Action Jackson
01-04-2004, 07:58 AM
True again Leo, maybe Lapentti should boost his energy intake and become a bit more offensive. At least losing to Schalken in 5 sets isn't as bad as losing to Gaudio in 5, he of the great 1-8 record in 5 set matches.

I just realised I was there at the only 2 5 setters that Mantilla has lost.

Ma. Estefania
01-05-2004, 02:33 AM
Well.....it's true what you say, he doesn't have it anymore....

But I didn't get if the poll was about nowadays or during their whole career.....

Action Jackson
01-05-2004, 02:38 AM
If it was during the whole career then Muster would be the only person that I would have put down in this category, but it's a combination of both and as I have said, if you don't like the choices then other is your friend.

Ma. Estefania
01-05-2004, 10:33 PM
Oki, thanx.

Action Jackson
01-07-2004, 04:00 AM
No problem, and see there are polls that Safin, Federer and Roddick can't win.

Ma. Estefania
01-07-2004, 05:58 PM
LOL....stop it, some "fight" can be started here due that. Je je.

amethyst
01-07-2004, 06:15 PM
I vote for Schuettler based on last years results. I was surprised how many tournaments he played ( 29 as far as I know - more than most players in the top 20) and didn´t break down at the end of the year.

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 09:59 AM
Hrbaty would probably be the fittest one, as he could play all day without getting tired, so he doesn't lose matches because of a lack of fitness, he is very durable and hasn't suffered from many injuries.

Canas, Schuettler and Costa have got very good endurance capabilities as well, but I think Hrbaty would be the best one in this category.

sam
04-24-2004, 12:46 PM
I voted for Rainer.

Conan the Librarian
04-24-2004, 12:52 PM
Conan votes for Canas, and not just because they have similar sounding names.

Aphex
04-24-2004, 02:05 PM
Schuettler-that's how he got where he is.

LiZpHaIr
04-24-2004, 11:25 PM
I don't see how Costa could lose this poll after RG 2003!

Smankyou
04-25-2004, 01:52 AM
Sargisian

Smankyou
04-25-2004, 01:59 AM
... or Younes.

Denise
04-25-2004, 06:18 PM
Schuettler! :o

UseTheSearchTool
08-10-2004, 06:04 AM
Hrbaty, then Schuettler though as someone else said they are nothing compared to Muster at his peak when it comes to fitness levels.

Ferrero Forever
08-10-2004, 08:03 AM
i voted for ferrero, suprise suprise, ferrero has great endurance, he might not be too fit now, but he's got great fitness when he's healthy.

Corinna
08-10-2004, 10:01 PM
yep, I agree
when he's totally fit he has the best endurance

azza
08-10-2004, 10:04 PM
Rainer and Lleyton

rue
08-10-2004, 10:53 PM
Rainer is the one

joeb_uk
08-10-2004, 10:53 PM
interesting poll! i would actually like to know how these players match up concerning muscular endurance, and also aerobic endurance.

TennisLurker
08-10-2004, 11:49 PM
costa, schuettler, cañas, hrbaty

Marc Rosset is Tall
08-11-2004, 12:29 AM
Canas. Hrbaty or Schuettler.

azza
10-08-2004, 06:47 AM
Oli Rochus

Chloe le Bopper
10-08-2004, 06:55 AM
I'm surprised that Cañas didn't get more votes. Then again, this poll was started when he was still on the outs more or less (although he did do well in Australia). I voted for Schuettler. Despite his slump this year, I don't see anythign wrong with that pick.

alfonsojose
10-08-2004, 01:08 PM
Gasquet should be here :angel:

Rogiman
10-08-2004, 01:23 PM
If Schuettler is considered here solely based on his 2003 season, then I'll go with Costa and his Roland Garros 2003 heroics.
4 times the man won 5 setters,
3 times back from 2 sets to love down,
And he made the semis!
How many marathon matches of Schuettler do you remember...?
I only remember how he blew a two sets to love lead against Soderling at Oz.... :lol:

roisin
10-08-2004, 05:24 PM
i think hewitts gotta win this one. he just runs down everything, hes unreal.

liptea
10-08-2004, 07:48 PM
Yeah, I'm assuming we're referring to pre-consistent injury Ferrero?

Lee
10-08-2004, 09:14 PM
If Schuettler is considered here solely based on his 2003 season, then I'll go with Costa and his Roland Garros 2003 heroics.
4 times the man won 5 setters,
3 times back from 2 sets to love down,
And he made the semis!
How many marathon matches of Schuettler do you remember...?
I only remember how he blew a two sets to love lead against Soderling at Oz.... :lol:

Blowing off 2 sets to love lead in AO and USO this year has nothing to do with endurance and fitness. It's more mental.

Schuettler won Tokyo last year and then flew across half the world to Lyon and won another title there after he played 100 matches (or close to) by that time of the year. That's why he get most of the votes here.

Boludo
10-09-2004, 12:30 AM
Too bad Muster wasn't on this poll, as he would walk this category in, but Rogiman you surely must be joking, if you think Schuettler was included because of his 2003 form. Rainer doesn't lose matches, because of a lack of fitness or conditioning, and that is his greatest strength as a player.