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Something that Safin and Roddick can't win

Action Jackson
12-27-2003, 07:45 AM
Here is something that Safin and Roddick are definitely not the best at.

Nominations are for the fastest player/best movement on the court. What I mean is just because a player is fast, that doesn't mean they have great court movement. I am wondering who is the best at these combined abilities.

I think Coria is the best in this field, he is very fast and has great anticipation and moves around the court magnificently, if he loses his speed then it would effect him even more than it would other players.

Also Ferrero, Grosjean, Canas and Rios ( before the injuries) are very good movers. Hewitt and Schuettler are very good on the hardcourts, but not as effective on clay.

Buddy
12-27-2003, 08:07 AM
i think coria's the fastest... but i shall place my votes for schuettler cos i think he's not bad too....

but i think in the end...coria should win the poll...

undomiele
12-27-2003, 09:15 AM
I agree Coria moves great and is one of the fastest. Its definitely his main strength as a player. :)
But it also kinda sucks as speed is the first thing to go as you get older sooooo Guillo had better milk these years for what theyre really worth !!

Jazzy
12-27-2003, 10:02 AM
coria & ferrero reasons - y is ferrero called el mosquito & coria is 2 good! :D

JeLuliA88
12-27-2003, 10:04 AM
A tie between ferrero and coria...

Aurora
12-27-2003, 10:07 AM
a chauvinistic vote for Rochus, but Hewitt, Ferrero and Coria are way up there

WyverN
12-27-2003, 11:24 AM
Federer has excellent movement, he is like a cat in those sneaks to the new, so does henman. You have to if you want to serve volley

*Ljubica*
12-27-2003, 12:20 PM
I voted for Coria but I think Schuettler has amazing speed and movement too.

Dirk
12-27-2003, 01:43 PM
What about the gliders on tour Moya, Pete, Rogi?

Lady
12-27-2003, 01:46 PM
I'll go with Guille... :)
From those who are not on the list, Roger moves incredibly good
James Blake is great in this departure as well ;)

Kiara
12-27-2003, 02:08 PM
Coria's movement is superb, he's the fastest out there at the moment on any surface , but Hewitt, Ferrero, Grosjean and Schuettler get honorable mention....Safin may not be the best mover but he DOES move incredibly well for a guy who is 6'4

Vass
12-27-2003, 02:13 PM
Just one question, why do people assume that tall guys can't be agile and flexible?
In soccer, hockey, basketball there are so many tall guys and they move fine.

*Ljubica*
12-27-2003, 02:20 PM
Just one question, why do people assume that tall guys can't be agile and flexible?
In soccer, hockey, basketball there are so many tall guys and they move fine.

I don't think anyone is actually saying that tall people cannot be agile - one only has to remember how Boris Becker used to hurl himself around the courts when he was young and he was over 6ft tall! I think the person who devised this poll is just saying that neither Roddick nor Safin are particularly agile or flexible, certainly when compared to the likes of Coria or some of the others named in the choices.

Experimentee
12-27-2003, 02:34 PM
a chauvinistic vote for Rochus, but Hewitt, Ferrero and Coria are way up there

How can a vote for Rochus possibly be chauvanistic? You must have got the wrong word there :p

IMO its very difficult to judge who is the fastest, all of them seem quite fast but I think my vote would be for Ferrero. He covers the court extremely well on all surfaces.
Hewitt would be out since he doesnt move well at all on clay, you can tell he isnt used to sliding and cant get good footing on clay, this hampers his movement. And since movement is one of his main weapons consequently he doesnt do well on clay.

Shy
12-27-2003, 03:31 PM
I vote for Coria. Marat move quite well for a guy that tall, but not as well as some others.

Deboogle!.
12-27-2003, 03:56 PM
I voted for Hewitt....b/c he's just damn fast.

Fastest of all though, Chang.

star
12-27-2003, 03:56 PM
I thought it was a rule that Safin had to win every poll. ;)

Anyway, the poll was "fastest and best" That makes it kind of hard. Anyway, I'm going for Coria because I love the way he moves on the court, but I like many of those listed. Ferrero, Schuettler, and Hewitt are all great. I also love to watch Oli Rochus. I've never seen Nadal so I can't comment.

Yeah, I agree with whoever said that Coria better make hay while the sun shines (as we say in the U.S. :lol:) because speed can betray. However, Schuettler seems to have retained his speed into his late twenties.

Aurora
12-27-2003, 04:06 PM
How can a vote for Rochus possibly be chauvanistic? You must have got the wrong word there

:confused: english is my third language but I do think it exists, doesn't it, in like 'patriotic'? (So me being from Belgium, and them not being included in alot of polls, you're getting it?)

or am I missing some irony here? :cool:

star
12-27-2003, 04:09 PM
Patriotic would be the absolute correct word to convey what you meant.... but don't worry, everyone understood what you meant. :)

star
12-27-2003, 04:11 PM
Here you go. Maybe you were being unreasoning etc. and your word choice was absolutely correct. :)

chau·vin·ist [ shṓvənist ] (plural chau·vin·ists)

noun

1. somebody with sense of superiority: somebody with an excessive or prejudiced loyalty to a particular gender, group, or cause

2. unreasoning patriot: an unreasoning, overenthusiastic, and aggressive patriot

chau·vin·is·tic [ shvə nístik ] adjective

Experimentee
12-27-2003, 04:22 PM
The first definition is the most common usage of the word "chauvanistic". And I dont think she was being unreasoning. Most people take chauvanistic to mean men who think women should stay in the kitchen, and things like that ;)
But for swirlingblacklilly, the best word to use would be "patriotic". :)

star
12-27-2003, 04:42 PM
I think that is a meaning that has been grafted onto the word from the feminist movement. The word existed even when women didn't have the right to own property or to vote. Your meaning is a gloss that recent social events have given to the word.

And as for her being unreasoning....... I was having a mild little joke.

Anyway, the word has always had a negative connotation.

Havok
12-27-2003, 06:06 PM
I voted Grosjean:worship: he's a suberb mover on all surfaces

Aurora
12-27-2003, 06:43 PM
Here you go. Maybe you were being unreasoning etc. and your word choice was absolutely correct. :)

chau·vin·ist [ shṓvənist ] (plural chau·vin·ists)

noun

1. somebody with sense of superiority: somebody with an excessive or prejudiced loyalty to a particular gender, group, or cause

2. unreasoning patriot: an unreasoning, overenthusiastic, and aggressive patriot

chau·vin·is·tic [ shvə nístik ] adjective

:haha: That aplies to Belgians soóóóó much!!! Yeah, I'm real hardcore!! :rocker2:

Leo
12-27-2003, 06:57 PM
The first definition is the most common usage of the word "chauvanistic". And I dont think she was being unreasoning. Most people take chauvanistic to mean men who think women should stay in the kitchen, and things like that ;)
But for swirlingblacklilly, the best word to use would be "patriotic". :)

LOL, I thought the same thing as you did. The only context I've seen the word "chauvinistic" used in is to describe a male who thinks himself superior to females.

Back to the poll: Where is Nalbandian? His movement on all surfaces is superb. Not only is he fast but he's an intelligent mover and great anticipator of shots. And also, I've heard that Nadal isn't actually the fastest player. I've never seen him play more than a couple games though, so could someone enlighten me? Is he that good a mover? Of the options on that poll, I would have to say Hewitt and Coria are the best movers.

Yonge
12-27-2003, 07:34 PM
I think Coria is the best in this field........

Hewitt and Schuettler are very good on the hardcourts, but not as effective on clay.

Hewitt may not be as effective on clay, but Coria isn't as effective on grass either. I would vote for both if I could, but since I have to pick, Lleyton gets my vote. He frustrates me more than Coria does because he gets to ball regardless of where it is on the court - baselines, net, sidelines. I'm not necessarily saying that Hewitt is an all court player, but compared to Guillermo, Lleyton's movement is just a bit better IMO. :)

Deboogle!.
12-27-2003, 07:37 PM
Yonge, excellent points about Hewitt - that's why I voted for him.

star
12-27-2003, 07:52 PM
LOL, I thought the same thing as you did. The only context I've seen the word "chauvinistic" used in is to describe a male who thinks himself superior to females.


And now you know that is an incorrect usage of the word. You must say male chauvinist in order to have that meaning. But, the word had been corrupted in the last 20 years because of this constant misuse.

maratski
12-27-2003, 07:54 PM
I thought it was a rule that Safin had to win every poll

It's not a rule, it's a fact :p

maratski
12-27-2003, 07:55 PM
when I hear the word chauvinistic I always think of French people ;)

star
12-27-2003, 08:05 PM
ouch!!

Aurora
12-27-2003, 09:49 PM
when I hear the word chauvinistic I always think of French people ;)

it's practically a definition of the french, ain't it? :p

maratski
12-27-2003, 09:58 PM
Je pense que t'as raison ;)

J. Corwin
12-27-2003, 10:00 PM
I choose Hewitt.

When I read "chauvinistic" I thought the same thing...but my mind has been tainted.

Fedex
12-27-2003, 10:01 PM
Ohhhh. This is soo tough! I wont vote because its so hard to choose between Coria, Ferrero & Hewitt. I think i'll leave it up to the experts to figure this one out!

Fedex
12-27-2003, 10:03 PM
Some reasons why I didnt vote. Coria & Ferrero move unbelievable on clay while Hewitt dosnt move so well there. Although Hewitt probobly moves better on Hard court & grass!! Just too tough to decide,really! ;)

Ma. Estefania
12-27-2003, 11:50 PM
Coria, Hewitt, and Clement are the 1st ones that came to my mind for this poll....

But I think Clement is the best one at this category, coz it works for him at every surface.

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 01:16 AM
I voted for Canas, but really shouldn't have. I was looking back on his 2002... but seeing as he hasn't really played since then... I should have voted for Hewitt. My bad.

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 01:55 AM
He could've not played since 2002 but still be the fastest? :)

Fee
12-28-2003, 02:37 AM
Well, Federer gets my vote. I can't believe he's not in this poll. They should play Swan Lake or something whenever he's playing, he's like Baryshnikov. When he's on, his feet barely touch the ground.

MisterQ
12-28-2003, 03:51 AM
Tough question. I voted for Hewitt, but Coria and Ferrero are right up there. Maybe we need a controlled experimental situation to answer this question definitively! :)

Lynne
12-28-2003, 04:34 AM
I think Ferrero and Coria move around the court pretty fast.. And Hewitt, too, he covers the court quite well....

Action Jackson
12-28-2003, 07:57 AM
Yes, I could have put Federer, Blake, Nalbandian in this poll, but that is why there is an other option included. These days it's virtually impossible to get away with slow foot speed and expect to be in the top bracket of players.

Fee it's not a style event ,if so Federer would probably win. Yes, Federer and Nalbandian are excellent all court movers and their anticipation would be up there with the best, but I don't think they are as fast as say Ferrero, Coria, Grosjean who rely more on their movement than Federer and Nalbandian.

Originally posted by Rosie
I think the person who devised this poll is just saying that neither Roddick nor Safin are particularly agile or flexible, certainly when compared to the likes of Coria or some of the others named in the choices.

The question was who has the fastest footspeed in combination with excellent court coverage, just because someone has fast foot speed doesn't mean they know to use it effectively on a tennis court.

No, I am not saying that Roddick or Safin are snails around the court, they move reasonably well, but not to the level of Coria or Ferrero. So it's a poll neither of them could win.

Originally Posted by Yonge St.Clair
Hewitt may not be as effective on clay, but Coria isn't as effective on grass either.

You made some very good points. Well Hewitt doesn't move that well on clay, but he plays a lot more matches on clay than Coria does on grass. On their respective worst surfaces Hewitt would come out better, perhaps Coria in the future will become better on grass, but with the lack of tournaments on grass compared to clay, indoors and hardcourt that is why I would Coria the edge in this poll.

TheBoiledEgg
12-28-2003, 02:06 PM
Skateboard Kid (although kid is hardly appropriate these days ;) )-- Grosjean.

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 08:40 PM
He could've not played since 2002 but still be the fastest? :)
I suppose so... Canas doesn't look as fast as say, Coria, but I happen to think that Coria's slight build make him look a lot more agile, when the difference between the two isn't actually that great.

Regardless... speculation is fun ;)

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 09:26 PM
I suppose so... Canas doesn't look as fast as say, Coria, but I happen to think that Coria's slight build make him look a lot more agile, when the difference between the two isn't actually that great.

Regardless... speculation is fun ;)

Hmm that's a really interesting point. Someone who's a little smaller, like Coria or Hewitt, probably would look faster. Bigger guys tend to look sort of um.... clunky moving around so it doesn't really look as fast. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there must be someone that epitomizes that lol

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 09:29 PM
Hmm that's a really interesting point. Someone who's a little smaller, like Coria or Hewitt, probably would look faster. Bigger guys tend to look sort of um.... clunky moving around so it doesn't really look as fast. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there must be someone that epitomizes that lol
I don't have one either.

But a poor example would be that Ferrero looks to be a lot faster and more agile than Agassi or Fed, when the difference isn't really all that great, imo.

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 09:49 PM
hmmmm yeah.... now I'm determined to think of someone who's fast and bigger so looks a little more clumsy :scratch:

Kiara
12-28-2003, 09:56 PM
..............Marat Safin, Martin Verkerk is pretty fast....on clay ;)

Kiara
12-28-2003, 09:58 PM
ok they're not as fast as Coria or Grosjean but agile nontheless

TennisLurker
12-28-2003, 10:24 PM
In fact, Ferrero is taller than Agassi, if you want an example, Albert Costa is IMO as fast as Coria or Ferrero, but he doesnt look like a "speedy player" like Coria or Hewitt.

undomiele
12-28-2003, 11:51 PM
I don't know if this helps but I remember reading how Maradona's low height lowered his centre of gravity, which in turn made him a very fast player.

So I imagine that is an argument for short tennis players being faster than taller ones. :)

By the way, ferrero is only just an inch taller than Agassi TLurker...

Maybe we should just start radar gunning the players as well as the tennis balls. ;)

Action Jackson
12-29-2003, 01:33 AM
Albert Costa of the huge Popeye forearms and the tree trunk legs is very fast and probably is in the top 2 or 3 for endurance capabilities. That would be interesting to see who is the fastest with the best endurance.

Hispanica
12-29-2003, 03:58 AM
I voted for the brother Rochus not omly because I'm from Belgium ;)

I think they really move fast and Olivier even more... Look at his games against players like Safin..

Otherwise fro me, ferrero and Coria a pretty fast too

star
12-29-2003, 05:19 AM
Oli is great to watch. :)

Chloe le Bopper
12-29-2003, 05:45 AM
In fact, Ferrero is taller than Agassi, if you want an example, Albert Costa is IMO as fast as Coria or Ferrero, but he doesnt look like a "speedy player" like Coria or Hewitt.
Agassi is shorter, but he's a lot thicker than Ferrero. That's why I used him as an example ;) Although it wasn't a very good one. Costa is better... even then, he's also a bit shorter than Ferrero.

joske
12-29-2003, 03:54 PM
I voted for the brother Rochus not omly because I'm from Belgium ;)

I think they really move fast and Olivier even more... Look at his games against players like Safin..

Ye, I can't remember who it was he played *but it was a big guy I remember that* some time ago but I was absolutely amazed with how well he coped even tho he's so tiny!

But they can't compete with Ferrero's on-court movement... :drool: he is GOD :)

Damn I always forget to enjoy what we (Belgians) have in tennis now... This isn't gonna happen again in the coming 30, 40, 50, ... years so I better start watching the belgians play more. Anyone heard about those awards, on the Girls' Junior's Tour a Belgian Girl (Kirsten Flipkens) won the player of the year just like Justine.. amazing :worship:

Hispanica
12-29-2003, 07:21 PM
eah i remember now... Oli played safin in 2002 twice. Roland Garros where he lost after 5 sets and Wimby where he won!!!

And this year i think he played against Alexander Pop at wimby. I don't remeber the result though... just know he lost

cheliste
12-30-2003, 08:23 AM
eah i remember now... Oli played safin in 2002 twice. Roland Garros where he lost after 5 sets and Wimby where he won!!!

That Wimbly match, I will remember for a long time. :o

Anyway, I voted for Coria, he has incredible speed and mobility around the court. He is a very good mover and that gives him many options. Not as good on grass as I would like him to be though but he will certainly improve. There are many players who have lightning speed at their arsenal but there are only few who move fast and move exceptionally well. One is Coria, another off the list is JCF and *ahem* P-Man Hewitt. ;)

Iza
01-02-2004, 08:20 PM
hmmm, hard one: well,yeah, i voted for Guille cos he's just like a feline,but there Juanqui who moves very well, and let's not forget Lleyton! He reaches some balls JCF wouldn't reach 4 sure! I guess it's very difficult to decide!

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 10:51 AM
This one is tough for sure, but I think it would Coria just in front of Ferrero.

Coria is so fast and he moves very well, especially on clay where it's such a big part of the game, though maybe Ferrero is a bit better on the hardcourts than Coria, it's very close between these two and seeing Hewitt this week at Monte Carlo is the reason that I didn't vote for him, he was awful and looked like an amateur.

Domino
04-24-2004, 11:25 AM
Other: Ginepri

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 11:26 AM
Other: Ginepri

Why Ginepri?

Domino
04-24-2004, 11:29 AM
You've never seen him play have you? John Barret, and numerous other comentators say he is the fastest on the tour (Though, it may just be on hard courts). I have personally seen him play many times, and I believe he is faster than Coria.

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 11:32 AM
You've never seen him play have you? John Barret, and numerous other comentators say he is the fastest on the tour (Though, it may just be on hard courts). I have personally seen him play many times, and I believe he is faster than Coria.

Yes, I have seen him play, then again he is a fast court specialist, and the questions asks not just on raw speed, but effectiveness of the movement. It's not a race over 100m.

Hewitt is very fast, but he is rubbish moving on clay and I would like to see Ginepri actually have a go at playing on the surface instead of waiting till the grasscourt season starts.

Domino
04-24-2004, 11:35 AM
He will be playing. Last season he was looking forward to it, saying that he liked playing on clay. Unfortunately, injury plagued him. Oh, and he is a balanced, very efficient mover as well. On numerous occasions I have seen him runnig back in the court, and then reversing direction when the ball is hit behind him, and getting to those balls.

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 11:39 AM
He will be playing. Last season he was looking forward to it, saying that he liked playing on clay. Unfortunately, injury plagued him. Oh, and he is a balanced, very efficient mover as well. On numerous occasions I have seen him runnig back in the court, and then reversing direction when the ball is hit behind him, and getting to those balls.

How will he be liking head-high balls, and getting run ragged. He will do nothing of note during the clay season. Hardcourt movement is a lot different than on clay, I think we could agree on that.

Domino
04-24-2004, 11:45 AM
I agree. I just want to see. I have been very impressed with his mobility and speed, though I think the mental aspect of his game is really his downfall. He can start so well, and flounder. I don't think it will be his movement that will be his downfall during the clay swing. As GWH called him, Robby "I have muscles and speed but no game" Ginepri. *sigh*, I really want an American who I can root for on clay, and still like, but my man Fish has one of the worst movement in the game.

Action Jackson
04-24-2004, 11:47 AM
How will he be liking head-high balls, and getting run ragged. He will do nothing of note during the clay season. Hardcourt movement is a lot different than on clay, I think we could agree on that.

Yes, rain is wet that is obvious that the movement is vastly different from bot the surfaces.

Domino, is a Ginepri man so I wouldn't worry about it. Actually I think he will even do less than what you think he is capable of FB. Is he injured is that why he didn't play in Monte Carlo? He couldn't have been too tired from all the victories in recent times.

The question was who has the fastest footspeed in combination with excellent court coverage, just because someone has fast foot speed doesn't mean they know to use it effectively on a tennis court.

Action Jackson
04-24-2004, 11:50 AM
As GWH called him, Robby "I have muscles and speed but no game" Ginepri. *sigh*, I really want an American who I can root for on clay, and still like, but my man Fish has one of the worst movement in the game.

Are you alright using my line about Ginepri. Yes, I still hold that opinion about his game, yes he is fast, but I don't think he has the best coverage along with the foot speed that I was asking originally.

Well Fish has other strengths besides movement, but that can always be better.

Aphex
04-24-2004, 11:51 AM
I voted Grosjean:worship: he's a suberb mover on all surfaces I agree with this choice, if you mean overall.
On clay, it's Coria.
On grass, on defense Hewitt, on offense the Hen-man.
On hardcourt, on defense can't pick between Schuettler, Hewitt and Coria; on offense, så är det Hönmannen igen ;) .
Indoors, I don't care much for indoors, most boring surfaces.

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 11:53 AM
You no like indoors Aphex? Is that the great Jonas Bengt Svensson on your avatar?

Domino
04-24-2004, 11:53 AM
Yes, rain is wet that is obvious that the movement is vastly different from bot the surfaces.

Domino, is a Ginepri man so I wouldn't worry about it. Actually I think he will even do less than what you think he is capable of FB. Is he injured is that why he didn't play in Monte Carlo? He couldn't have been too tired from all the victories in recent times.

The question was who has the fastest footspeed in combination with excellent court coverage, just because someone has fast foot speed doesn't mean they know to use it effectively on a tennis court.

Lol, I think he didn't go because the other guys didn't go. I never took Dent to be that close with the other guys.

Anyways, as I said before, Ginepri uses his speed effectively on hard courts and grass. I haven't seen him on clay yet, so I don't know how he will move there.

Domino
04-24-2004, 11:56 AM
Since I have not seen Ginepri on Clay, I would have to pick Schuettler.

Action Jackson
04-24-2004, 11:57 AM
He is still Robby "I have muscles, but no game" Ginepri and that will be shown up if he bothers to surface before Wimbledon.

Aphex
04-24-2004, 12:07 PM
You no like indoors Aphex? Is that the great Jonas Bengt Svensson on your avatar? Sure if indoor-clay was a wide-spread surface on tour then I would like indoors. And yes, that is the great Jonas B. as he was formerly known as in the ATP site's player profiles. :D
George WH found this pic for me on the World Team Cup site. ( thx again GWH!) Do you know Jonas is a coach for a rich-people tennis club in Switzerland nowadays? He was having problem with members: 1. wanting to buy exclusive rights to the club's courts, 2. asking for a landing pad for their private helicopters. :crazy: Rich people! Who needs comedy, really !?

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 12:11 PM
Sure if indoor-clay was a wide-spread surface on tour then I would like indoors. And yes, that is the great Jonas B. as he was formerly known as in the ATP site's player profiles. :D
George WH found this pic for me on the World Team Cup site. ( thx again GWH!) Do you know Jonas is a coach for a rich-people tennis club in Switzerland nowadays? He was having problem with members: 1. wanting to buy exclusive rights to the club's courts, 2. asking for a landing pad for their private helicopters. :crazy: Rich people! Who needs comedy, really !?

Indoor clay would be fantastic for sure and Jonas. B moved very well as well actually. I am looking to find an old player pic for my avatar.

I can't believe those members, too much money not enough sense as long as Jonas gets paid then it's cool.

Was Magnus Norman one of the slowest guys on the tour?

Aphex
04-24-2004, 12:21 PM
Was Magnus Norman one of the slowest guys on the tour?
He was? I don't remember. I would pick Wayne Arthurs as one of the slowest, basically cause I've never seen th guy move. :rolleyes:

Aphex
04-24-2004, 12:43 PM
And FryslanBoppe you should check out the past champions gallery on th WTC-site for pics of yester-years players ;)

Aphex
04-24-2004, 12:47 PM
Here's the link for you: http://www.arag-world-team-cup.com/en/turnier/historie/

Btw: Is that the Same flag on your profile?

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 12:49 PM
Here's the link for you: http://www.arag-world-team-cup.com/en/turnier/historie/

Btw: Is that the Same flag on your profile?

Thanks for that link and it's Greenlandic actually. GWH is the only Same here :) .

Aphex
04-24-2004, 12:56 PM
Sorry, I don't even know the flags of my closest region, it's sad. :rolleyes:
And don't tell anyone. I'm 1/16 Sami on my father's side and 1/2 tornedals Fin on my mother's side. :D I'm of a bastard breed. :lol:

Bubble
04-24-2004, 01:31 PM
Marat will be the fastest mover among the players above 6 feet tall :)

Rex
04-24-2004, 01:43 PM
its between coria and shuettler

FryslanBoppe
04-24-2004, 01:45 PM
Marat will be the fastest mover among the players above 6 feet tall :)

Ferrero is 6 foot tall so that proves your point incorrect. It starts at 6 feet and not 6"1.

Deboogle!.
04-24-2004, 02:52 PM
I saw Robby on clay last week in Houston and I'd say his movement translated pretty well to the clay. But I wasn't paying that much attention

star
04-24-2004, 04:09 PM
I would have voted for Federer but he wasn't on the list. It was fastest and best. So for fast AND best I would say Federer. Otherwise Coria.

For pure speed, Hewitt or Schuettler.

Denise
04-24-2004, 11:54 PM
Something safin can't win again?? :( what the hell is that?? :devil: Okay, I voted for CORIA but Safin moves quite well in court, I see all the time pple giving complement to him 'cause they're right.... he's tall, but he has the agility even if it's hard to some tall players... well, I won't say he's the more fast than the small players :devil: but Safin it's great in it as well, it must be tough be taller and make great moves all the time, so you cannot say he's slow on court god's sake :rolleyes:

star
04-25-2004, 12:08 AM
Nobody did say Safin was slow.

Denise
04-25-2004, 12:21 AM
Nobody did say Safin was slow.

so, that's ok now :lol:

Action Jackson
04-25-2004, 05:22 AM
so, that's ok now :lol:

Safin moves very well for a guy of his size, but he seems to win nearly every poll and this is one poll where he won't be able to win.

J. Corwin
04-25-2004, 05:59 AM
Yet if he was a choice he still may have won it

Action Jackson
04-25-2004, 06:03 AM
Yet if he was a choice he still may have won it

See, there are polls he can't win, but I do see your point for sure.

Denise
04-25-2004, 07:57 PM
Safin moves very well for a guy of his size, but he seems to win nearly every poll and this is one poll where he won't be able to win.

Of course he moves very well :D btw, does marat seems to win every poll in this forum??? Because he's the best or.... well, I think the majority of the fans here are of Andy Roddick, not Safin, am I wrong?? :confused:

¿esquímaux?
04-25-2004, 08:00 PM
I'd love to see a match between Hewitt and Coria. There'd be a lot of scrambling, fist-pumping, and bruised ballkids.

Denise
04-25-2004, 08:03 PM
Yet if he was a choice he still may have won it

lol :lol: just 'cause he wins almost all the polls, he won't appear in anyone??? "what a fair" forum LOL! besides, even if we've a poll of the best volley, marat will gonna win it LOL! J/K! :devil:

Shadow
04-25-2004, 08:07 PM
denise_v you are too embrassing :o

star
04-25-2004, 08:07 PM
Of course he moves very well :D btw, does marat seems to win every poll in this forum??? Because he's the best or.... well, I think the majority of the fans here are of Andy Roddick, not Safin, am I wrong?? :confused:

The majority of posters in this forum do not like Andy Roddick one bit. :)

I'd say that of all the players Marat seems to have the most fans. He's a likeable guy. :)

Denise
04-25-2004, 08:16 PM
denise_v you are too embrassing :o

No, I'm Not. :rolleyes:

The majority of posters in this forum do not like Andy Roddick one bit.

I'd say that of all the players Marat seems to have the most fans. He's a likeable guy.

I think I say smth wrong, lol. yeah, most of posters do not like ANdy too much. Well, you're right about Marat, even if the person it's not a huge fan, at least the person likes him and admirate a bit ;)

jtipson
04-25-2004, 08:17 PM
Of course he moves very well :D btw, does marat seems to win every poll in this forum??? Because he's the best or.... well, I think the majority of the fans here are of Andy Roddick, not Safin, am I wrong?? :confused:

You haven't been here very long I guess. I'd say it was the other way around myself, although there are plenty of fans of other players too, of course.

Shadow
04-25-2004, 08:18 PM
just keep it cool ;)

star
04-25-2004, 08:22 PM
You don't embarass me, Denise. :)

Denise
04-25-2004, 08:27 PM
just keep it cool ;)

Of course Andy! I'm ok ;)

You haven't been here very long I guess. I'd say it was the other way around myself, although there are plenty of fans of other players too, of course.

Yeah, I haven't been here very long. Sometimes I enter to read the msgs on weekend. Okay, I undestood you. and I learned something now, not say smth I dunno or make supositions hihi :angel:

Denise
04-25-2004, 08:29 PM
You don't embarass me, Denise. :)

thank you so much ;) LOL!

Havok
04-25-2004, 08:36 PM
I'd love to see a match between Hewitt and Coria. There'd be a lot of scrambling, fist-pumping, and bruised ballkids.
is that you in your avatar? :scared:

Black Adam
03-24-2009, 12:23 PM
I will go with Nadal although Monfils is also fast.