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Digging In The Dirt - clay court season 2006

Rogiman
04-02-2006, 07:34 PM
Need I say more...? :p

The Daviator
04-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Clay :unsure:

But I've had a feeling ever since Christmas that's he's going to win the calendar Slam, so give 'em hell Roger! :yeah:

R.Federer
04-02-2006, 07:55 PM
I think Roge is going to have a super clay season, I do! I think he is so focus this year on doing well in the clay, he has planned to play all the T.M.S. (although I think that if he would do well in the first two, he will withdraw and rest for Roland Garros). I am Sooooooooooo hopeful for a French Open Trophy for Roge! I am so hopeful, it would be wonderful to see someone hold all 4 at one time, in our lifetime!

1sun
04-02-2006, 08:17 PM
not too optimistic but if roger could win one of the three tms that would be great going into rg. but i just think the next few months might be a bit of a struggle for rog.

RonE
04-02-2006, 08:25 PM
Out of everyone why did you have to be the one to start this thread? :ras: ;)

makro120
04-02-2006, 11:17 PM
This is what I have been waiting for since he lost in 4 sets against Nadal that terrible day, in a very hard moment in my life. Its time to revenge Roger and this time all pressure is on Nadal to show who is the king on clay. :devil:

nobama
04-03-2006, 03:59 AM
Nothing to do with Roger, but I see Andy Roddick is playing an exhibition in Charleston, SC 4 days before Rome starts. So will he even play in Rome? We know he'll skip MC to play in Houston. That's great preparation for the dirt there Andy. :lol:

It sounds like Roger is committed to playing all thre MS events. He said yesterday that Tony would hook up with him in Rome.

This is Rafa's clay schedule before RG:

04/17/06 AMS Monte Carlo, Monaco Clay 64
04/24/06 Barcelona, Spain Clay 56
05/08/06 AMS Rome, Italy Clay 64
05/15/06 AMS Hamburg, Germany Clay 64
05/22/06 World Team Championship, Germany Clay 32

Seems like a lot of tennis to me...wonder if he'll pull out of Hamburg again? And again he's scheduled to play two clay events after Wimbledon. Not sure why he doesn't use that time to rest up/get ready for the North America summer HC events. :scratch: I mean last year by the time he got to Cincy he was burned out and lost there R1 and went out early at the US Open.

Bagelicious
04-03-2006, 04:11 AM
RG '06 Dream Final: Roger vs. Rafa. :drool:
RG '06 Dream Winner: Federer def. Nadal. Sigh... fingers, toes and eyes crossed.

Rogiman
04-03-2006, 06:24 AM
Out of everyone why did you have to be the one to start this thread? :ras: ;)
What can I say, I'm an opportunistic son of a bitch :lol:

Rogiman
04-03-2006, 06:28 AM
Nothing to do with Roger, but I see Andy Roddick is playing an exhibition in Charleston, SC 4 days before Rome starts. So will he even play in Rome? We know he'll skip MC to play in Houston. That's great preparation for the dirt there Andy. :lol:
Excuse me, that's Tennis Masters Charleston and The Houston Grand Slam Championships thank you very much! ;)

Rogiman
04-03-2006, 07:59 AM
So, predictions please! ;)

I now it's too ambitious before he's even played one match on the dirty stuff, but c'mon ;)

I, for one, don't think he'll win RG (but that's just me - over protective and blah - I hope as hell to be surprised again :D), and would settle for 200 race points (that's 1000 entry ranking points for you), just enough to secure the top spot :)

Puschkin
04-03-2006, 08:13 AM
So, predictions please! ;)
I now it's too ambitious before he's even played one match on the dirty stuff, but c'mon ;)

I would not stick my head out with a bold prediction, at least not now, but I feel that Roger will do his utmost to get that RG-crown, that is THE challenge remaining and he knows it. The rest is only a prelude. ;)

TheMightyFed
04-03-2006, 09:43 AM
I think he would also like to prove himself in other clay masters series like Rome and Monte-Carlo. I say he'll win one of these two and Roland Garros. Pretty optimistic but I feel he's on a trip to history this year... contrary to last year, there is nobody as hot as him performance wise, including on clay. It seems the best situation to do the non calendar slam.

Gulliver
04-03-2006, 10:22 AM
If he lost early in MC could he get a wild card into Barcelona?

makro120
04-03-2006, 10:43 AM
Here you have my prediction:

Federer will win Monte Carlo against Nadal in the final, Nadal will go on to win Barcelona but will be tired in Rome and feel the pressure. This will lead to Nadal not even reaching the final and Federer winning Rome against a surprise finalist (Gasquet?). Federer wont stick to his plan to play 3 master series and wont defend his title in Hamburg to rest for RG. Undefeated on clay he will go in as the favorite and will face Nadal in the final. Nadal will be figured out by then, but it will still be a struggle as the match is played on clay. Federer will win 4 sets and will cry like a baby doing an unforgetable speech in french, but the audience will go against him when he starts speaking english for his fans worldwide.

TennisGrandSlam
04-03-2006, 10:43 AM
If he lost early in MC could he get a wild card into Barcelona?

Barcelona is an optional tournaments!

Only the best 5 optional tournaments' race points are counted!

makro120
04-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Barcelona is an optional tournaments!

Only the best 5 optional tournaments' race points are counted!

That doesnt matter as Federer has only 4 optional tournaments this year. Barcelona would give him 300 points which would not be far from a master series.

Dont worry, Federer wont lose early in MC and wont have to play Barcelona anyway. But if he would lose early, I think he should go to Barcelona and try to get a match against Nadal in the final.

stebs
04-03-2006, 11:01 AM
Here you have my prediction:

Federer will win Monte Carlo against Nadal in the final, Nadal will go on to win Barcelona but will be tired in Rome and feel the pressure. This will lead to Nadal not even reaching the final and Federer winning Rome against a surprise finalist (Gasquet?). Federer wont stick to his plan to play 3 master series and wont defend his title in Hamburg to rest for RG. Undefeated on clay he will go in as the favorite and will face Nadal in the final. Nadal will be figured out by then, but it will still be a struggle as the match is played on clay. Federer will win 4 sets and will cry like a baby doing an unforgetable speech in french, but the audience will go against him when he starts speaking english for his fans worldwide.

If this happens I will be so happy but it sounds just a tad optimistic don't you think :)

yanchr
04-03-2006, 11:10 AM
Here you have my prediction:

Federer will win Monte Carlo against Nadal in the final, Nadal will go on to win Barcelona but will be tired in Rome and feel the pressure. This will lead to Nadal not even reaching the final and Federer winning Rome against a surprise finalist (Gasquet?). Federer wont stick to his plan to play 3 master series and wont defend his title in Hamburg to rest for RG. Undefeated on clay he will go in as the favorite and will face Nadal in the final. Nadal will be figured out by then, but it will still be a struggle as the match is played on clay. Federer will win 4 sets and will cry like a baby doing an unforgetable speech in french, but the audience will go against him when he starts speaking english for his fans worldwide.
:lol:

Assume you predicted everything correct tennis-wise, I guess he won't cry like a baby, like he did in Wimbledon or this AO ;)

But he goes undefeated on clay...well we always can wish or hope, can't we?

Rogiman
04-03-2006, 11:24 AM
:lol:

Assume you predicted everything correct tennis-wise, I guess he won't cry like a baby, like he did in Wimbledon or this AO ;)
Based on past "performances", if that happens he will be crying his ass out and will be carried out of court on a stretcher :haha:

RonE
04-03-2006, 12:32 PM
What can I say, I'm an opportunistic son of a bitch :lol:

That's not what I meant- you and me we bring negatives vibes to Roger. I would have been a lot more comfortable if someone like Silvy for instance would have started it. :p ;)

Puschkin
04-03-2006, 12:37 PM
Federer will win 4 sets and will cry like a baby doing an unforgetable speech in french, but the audience will go against him when he starts speaking english for his fans worldwide.

:D The French crowd is not used at all to being addressed in French by a male winner, so they would not turn against Roger, unless he defeats a Frenchman in the final ;)

bokehlicious
04-03-2006, 12:37 PM
Federer will win 4 sets and will cry like a baby doing an unforgetable speech in french, but the audience will go against him when he starts speaking english for his fans worldwide.

:lol:

Fortunately, Roger is appreciated in Paris, they like the foreign guys who can speak french and Roger has a funny sense of humour in that language.

rofe
04-03-2006, 01:58 PM
I also feel that it is going to be very difficult for Roger to win the FO. There are a few positives however that might turn the tide in Roger's favor.

There was a big question mark last year about his performance when his beautiful tennis was not working especially after his defeat at the FO. He showed us early this year, at a GS, that he can grind out matches now.

He has improved some facets of his game that should help him going forward. His DTL backhand shot, his second serve and to some extent, his volley.

It would be great if he could win one of the two clay masters (other than Hamburg) but I would be happy if he went deep in both.

What I don't want is for the h2h against Nadal to become even more lopsided during the clay season, something like 1-4 or 1-5. That would not be good for Roger's confidence going into the FO.

RogiFan88
04-03-2006, 02:59 PM
:D The French crowd is not used at all to being addressed in French by a male winner, so they would not turn against Roger, unless he defeats a Frenchman in the final ;)

Exactly! I am longing for Rogi to win RG or MC or Paris-Bercy just to hear his speech in French. When was the last time we heard the winner or finalist speak more than passable French at the ceremony?? I can only recall Corretja... and then Moya, who said his French was so bad, got booed!! :p

So let's have a French-speaking guy win it for a change, RG, that is... it w be such a treat for the French crowd! If they booed him for speaking English then I'll boo THEM for not looking a gift horse in the mouth when it comes to chosen language for speeches... :ras:

Puschkin
04-03-2006, 03:08 PM
Exactly! I am longing for Rogi to win RG or MC or Paris-Bercy just to hear his speech in French.

I heard him speaking French already, he has good vocabulary, but the native (Swiss-German-Speaker does come through ;)


So let's have a French-speaking guy win it for a change, RG, that is,....
That is an ambiguous wish. ;) What do you do if Mssrs. Gasquet, Monfils or Grosjean listen to you? :eek:

RogiFan88
04-03-2006, 03:17 PM
Some dream predictions here... Gasquet... now that would be a surprise!

I don't care if Rogi loses all the TMSes leading up to RG if he won RG, which w be MY dream for him but until everyone starts playing on clay it will be difficult to predict!

Don't forget that Valencia and Houston are April 10 and Marat has decided to accept an invitation to Juanqui's tourney since he couldn't get Rafa, Charly or Fena [DC commitments for CHL vs. USA]. But Gaston will be there and they're doing an homage to the past Spanish RG champs and finalists but have invited Gasti also! COOL! Wish I were there... that tourney and BCN, along w MC and RG w be MY dream clay tour.

I believe that Rogi s have been more serious about RG years ago, when he lost to Arazi in 02 and then Horna in 03. Now that Rafa has well and truly arrived, esp on clay, at RG, it will be almost impossible for anyone to win RG. But it is encouraging to see that Rogi IS more serious about winning RG, as he posted his best showing there last year and came up vs. the winner. At least if he does better his SF mark this year and makes the final, he cannot meet Rafa until the end, assuming that Rafa will make the final altho we all know there are many other guys who can shine on clay.

It will be interesting to see just WHO comes thru at RG... the usual suspects are not doing well this year: Coria, Gaudio, Nalby [well, you never know w him and his lack of motivation but he can certainly win RG], Safin [he's the ultimate unpredictable guy, also someone who can win RG]... I won't be surprised if someone unexpected comes thru. Also, there has not been a clear fave coming out of the S Amer clay season this year whereas last yr Gaudio and Rafa both won 2 titles.

Rafa is the overwhelming fave no matter what, as the defending champ AND as the reigning KING OF CLAY. Rogi could be one of the faves only because he is No 1 and did well last yr but it depends on his clay results leading up to RG. I hate it when Rogi is declared a strong fave just cos he won Hamburg -- this has happened 3 times and he never won RG. In fact, in 02 the "fave" lost to Costa, a worthy winner. In 03 one of the faves won it [not easy to do when you lost the final the year before] YAY! In 04, well, the fave lost to the out of nowhere Gaston, who, still has not won a single TMS, on clay or other surface, so there goes the theory about he who wins MC... :p And then, of course, last year, the kid who never played RG, swept thru everyone and won his first slam -- now THAT, nobody could have predicted.

So... if the last couple of years produced somewhat surprise winners, why not this year? I mean, doesn't everyone say how Rogi sucks on clay? ;)

RogiFan88
04-03-2006, 03:27 PM
I heard him speaking French already, he has good vocabulary, but the native (Swiss-German-Speaker does come through ;)


That is an ambiguous wish. ;) What do you do if Mssrs. Gasquet, Monfils or Grosjean listen to you? :eek:

I have heard Rogi speak French also but I want to hear him speak it in a victory speech at RG! As for Gasquet, etc., they have time to win... Grosjean, he'll never win RG... of that I'm 99.99% sure! :p [the only time I cheered for Seb was when he beat AA at RG in front of Clinton]

SUKTUEN
04-03-2006, 04:20 PM
Congrat Roger~!

bokehlicious
04-03-2006, 04:21 PM
I heard him speaking French already, he has good vocabulary, but the native (Swiss-German-Speaker does come through ;)


He's got a cute swiss-german accent, but he does speak very fluently French, a few of his fellow Swiss-germans speak french that fluently ;)


That is an ambiguous wish. ;) What do you do if Mssrs. Gasquet, Monfils or Grosjean listen to you? :eek:


Well, they already had Noah... Enough for the next half century :o :angel:

SUKTUEN
04-03-2006, 04:22 PM
Roger realy play all three clay title ?

PaulieM
04-03-2006, 04:29 PM
i'll keep my predictions to myself since i don't want to jinx anything, but i hope my gut is right this time. ;) anyway good luck to roger, let's hope he has a good time playing in the sandbox. :)

SUKTUEN
04-03-2006, 04:34 PM
I think play 3 titles are too much

Rogiman
04-03-2006, 04:41 PM
That's not what I meant- you and me we bring negatives vibes to Roger. I would have been a lot more comfortable if someone like Silvy for instance would have started it. :p ;)
Quite the opposite!
He's read through my "Bitch" thread and upped his game ever since! :D

RonE
04-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Quite the opposite!
He's read through my "Bitch" thread and upped his game ever since! :D

:lol: Ok, I will go with your theory.... for now ;)

lsy
04-04-2006, 05:01 AM
:bounce:

:scared:

That's how I feel going on to the clay season.

RogiFan88
04-04-2006, 02:19 PM
I'm not nervous about the clay season -- I love it! I can't wait! For once, it's NOT Rogi with 4 titles to defend so a little [not a lot] less pressure for him. ;)

Purple Rainbow
04-04-2006, 03:21 PM
This clay season will be very interesting!
Of course, Roger has relatively little points to defend (Roger-wise that is), so he can play a bit relaxed until the French Open starts. There are a few prizes to win for Roger here. First, he has a shot of winning Monte Carlo and Rome, two tournies he hasn't yet won, and which would bring him closer to winning all 9 Masters Series tournament (a feat which I'd like to dub the Grand Master).
Methinks, Federer should skip Hamburg if he fares well in Rome, no pint of exhausting your body when you are about to play the most important slam of your life (Federer might say that he rather wants to win Wimbledon again, but we all know how important a French crown would be in his resume).

I am not going to post predictions, it is useless, I will just be rooting in front of my tv!

mangoes
04-04-2006, 04:03 PM
For some reason, I'm not so nervous about Roger going into this clay court season. I'm excited about it, more so than any other clay season in the past........ Roger seems to be very confident and I think that's what he needs more than anything..........belief in himself that he can win the FO. I'm not so fearful of Nadal. I like Nadal, but I want Roger to kick his butt during the season. I think if Roger successfully begins to put the "clamps" on Nadal from Monte Carlo and is able to win either Monte Carlo or Roma, it will rattle Nadal's belief in being able to win FO again. Plus, I know that Nadal has improved on hard court, but I don't feel that he is playing, thus far in 2006, as well as he was in 2005. His performance in Monte Carlo will tell us a bit more.

On a funny note: I bet this guy 200 bucks that Nadal will make it pass the quarters and be one of the FO finalists. He bet me that Nadal will not make it pass the quarters of the FO. Interestingly, I've never won a bet against him but I figured, this one was just too farfetched...............

ytben
04-04-2006, 04:53 PM
Mangoes, same here .... I have never been more excited about clay season than this year's! Will be very interesting to follow Roger's progress through the whole clay season. I won't make any prediction either (although I have to say I love Makro's :lol: ) but I'll say this - I have high hopes & good feelings this year.

MissMoJo
04-04-2006, 06:59 PM
The fact that he's been so vocal about his intention to win it this year has made clay season kinda exciting. I have a feeling that he will do something special, maybe win 1 or more of the clay masters that he hasn't already ,or play a classic match(hopefully winning it), go one match further at RG.... Anyway he's been so noncommittal about RG in the past that his change in attitude alone is enough to make me look forward to it

SUKTUEN
04-05-2006, 04:26 AM
oh

Xristos
04-05-2006, 04:49 AM
As much as I love Roger....Nadal is the king of clay and will win RG agian....

Puschkin
04-05-2006, 10:23 AM
I'm not nervous about the clay season -- I love it! I can't wait! For once, it's NOT Rogi with 4 titles to defend so a little [not a lot] less pressure for him. ;)
Exactly :wavey: and we all know that defending is even tougher than achieving things for the first time.

nobama
04-05-2006, 11:30 AM
Wonder if Rafa will be playing mind games this year....he's very good at downplaying his chances, giving the impression he's not interested in being #1 this year. It'll be interesting to see how he fares trying to back up all these big titles. And this year he'll for sure be considered the favorite. I'm still amazed at how Roger is able to do it consistently.

NYCtennisfan
04-05-2006, 03:26 PM
On a funny note: I bet this guy 200 bucks that Nadal will make it pass the quarters and be one of the FO finalists. He bet me that Nadal will not make it pass the quarters of the FO. Interestingly, I've never won a bet against him but I figured, this one was just too farfetched...............

That's the easiest money anyone ever made. :)

As or the clay season, I think we will see a somewhat relaxed Roger like we did in Miami which is a good thing. He does have points to defend, but he is not the top dog on clay. He's not the one holding all the titles. If he has early success in MC or Roma, I will like his chances even more.

Rogiman
04-05-2006, 03:29 PM
NYCtennisfan, is Roger's start of 2006 the best start of all time (at least in comparable eras)?

SUKTUEN
04-05-2006, 03:54 PM
GOOD LUCK~!!!!

Roger!!!!!!!!!! GOD Bless Roger PLEASE my LORD~!!!!

DrJules
04-05-2006, 08:35 PM
On a funny note: I bet this guy 200 bucks that Nadal will make it pass the quarters and be one of the FO finalists. He bet me that Nadal will not make it pass the quarters of the FO. Interestingly, I've never won a bet against him but I figured, this one was just too farfetched...............


Considering the poor physical condition of Rafael in the last 6 months it may not be the most stupid bet. The physical demands of the clay court season may wear him out by RG. He is not in the same condition as at this time last year.

RonE
04-05-2006, 09:12 PM
NYCtennisfan, is Roger's start of 2006 the best start of all time (at least in comparable eras)?

I believe it is- the closest to that is Sampras in 1994 who, like Roger, won 1 optional (Sydney), the Australian, Indian Wells and Miami. Only difference is, Pete lost in Doha and in Philadelphia both of them in the first round where Roger made the final in Dubai.

Agassi also had a pretty good start in 2001 winning the AO, IW and Miami and losing in the final of San Jose and first round of Scottsdale.

So if you take the AO, IW and Miami trio away from the three players you are left with:

Sampras: Winner in Sydney, first round losses in Doha, Philadelphia.
Agassi: Finalist in San Jose, first round loss in Scottsdale
Federer: Winner in Doha, finalist in Dubai.

So, bottom line is- that is the best start to the season by anyone with only one loss from January to mid-April (at least) and that coming in a final. Brilliant :worship:

NYCtennisfan
04-06-2006, 12:56 AM
Rogiman, record wise, Lendl and JMAC had better records, but they didn't play in the TMS era. MAC was 39-0 going into RG '84, but he didn't play a slam and two masters events. Federer's beginning to this year is probably the best first 3 months of a season ever.

RonE, good comparisons to Andre and Pete of '94 and '01, but those first round losses put those starts below Roger's.

Daniel
04-06-2006, 02:13 AM
Wishing Roger a super wonderful clay season in 2006 :bounce: :kiss:

RogiFan88
04-06-2006, 09:49 PM
BTW, Rafa is targeting Hamburg to complete his clay TMS collection... read about it in a Spanish article this week. It's his "object of desire". The article mentions that having this goal lessens the pressure on him to repeat his amazing clay success from 2005, something that Rafa himself insists w be unrealistic to think about doing this year. ;)

nobama
04-07-2006, 01:08 AM
BTW, Rafa is targeting Hamburg to complete his clay TMS collection... read about it in a Spanish article this week. It's his "object of desire". The article mentions that having this goal lessens the pressure on him to repeat his amazing clay success from 2005, something that Rafa himself insists w be unrealistic to think about doing this year. ;)Can Rafa really play MC, Barcelona, Rome and Hamburg and still be fresh for RG? That's a lot of tennis in a short amount of time.

LCeh
04-07-2006, 01:43 AM
I think that Rafa doesn't expect himself to win every single tournament. And if he does loses early, then he can still get more matches from other tournaments. I don't think he is planning his schedule as if he would go far in every single one of them yet.

TenHound
04-07-2006, 02:41 AM
I'm relieved they've moved back M-C- this yr. giving him a week to decompress between seasons. M-C- => Wimby is Rog's Super Season this year.

Notice how Thugs has scarcely played any matches at all since last October. He'll be rested & ready to to go on a Goliath of Grime Rampage. M-C-, Rome, Hamburg, Paris...very possible...or maybe he hurts his feet again trying to steal Roger's Hamburg Trophy. Screw you, thuggy.

nobama
04-07-2006, 07:32 AM
I'm relieved they've moved back M-C- this yr. giving him a week to decompress between seasons. M-C- => Wimby is Rog's Super Season this year.

Notice how Thugs has scarcely played any matches at all since last October. He'll be rested & ready to to go on a Goliath of Grime Rampage. M-C-, Rome, Hamburg, Paris...very possible...or maybe he hurts his feet again trying to steal Roger's Hamburg Trophy. Screw you, thuggy.Good grief why do you have so much animosity towards Nadal? Jesus, he was seriously injured that's why he hasn't played much. I highly doubt he "scarcely played any matches" so he'd be ready to steel Roger's thunder when clay season rolls around. :rolleyes: Especially considering he was a favorite for AO. Besides he can't "steal" anything from Roger. I'm sure Roger would love to take home the MC or Rome trophy. Is that trying to "steal" something from Nadal?

Mechlan
04-07-2006, 07:46 AM
Looking forward to the clay. Good luck at MC, Rogi. :bounce:

Oriental_Rain
04-07-2006, 08:58 AM
I really do hope that he'll do well on clay this year coz if he does, ppl can finally shut their mouth

RonE
04-07-2006, 10:07 AM
BTW, Rafa is targeting Hamburg to complete his clay TMS collection... read about it in a Spanish article this week. It's his "object of desire". The article mentions that having this goal lessens the pressure on him to repeat his amazing clay success from 2005, something that Rafa himself insists w be unrealistic to think about doing this year. ;)

As long as Roger gets the French, piggy can have Hamburg for all I care :)

nobama
04-07-2006, 10:56 AM
As long as Roger gets the French, piggy can have Hamburg for all I care :)Yeah, I could care less that he wants to win Hamburg. I don't even know what that's news worthy.

Rogiman
04-07-2006, 11:34 AM
Jesus, he was seriously injured that's why he hasn't played much. I highly doubt he "scarcely played any matches" so he'd be ready to steel Roger's thunder when clay season rolls around. :rolleyes: Especially considering he was a favorite for AO.
Let's just say he would love to be in Roger's position right now, taking such a momentum into the clay season.

Rogiman
04-07-2006, 11:36 AM
BTW, Rafa is targeting Hamburg to complete his clay TMS collection... read about it in a Spanish article this week. It's his "object of desire". ;)Very understandable.
Winning all the biggest titles on clay will definitely solidify his status as one of the greatest claycourters ever, not that I doubt he'll be one anyway.

nobama
04-07-2006, 01:17 PM
Let's just say he would love to be in Roger's position right now, taking such a momentum into the clay season.Oh I totally agree. I mean imagine if he had won IW or Miami (or both) and it was Roger he beat in one or both finals. I think Roger's frame of mind would be totally different going into the clay season. I have to laugh though when I see posts in GM about how Rafa will destroy Roger on clay. Obviously he'd be the favorite, but I don't know about "destroy". He didn't do that at RG last year. It'll be interesting to see how he fares on the dirt this year.

Rogiman
04-07-2006, 01:28 PM
I have to laugh though when I see posts in GM about how Rafa will destroy Roger on clay. Obviously he'd be the favorite, but I don't know about "destroy". He didn't do that at RG last year. It'll be interesting to see how he fares on the dirt this year.Roger can destroy him, I can feel it, it's just a matter of time until a match comes where he'll be able to sustain the same level of the 1st set of their Dubai encounter for a whole match, a little like what Edberg did to Courier in that USO final.

Rafa can't destroy Roger, not since that 2004 Miami match, he just doesn't have the guns to do it, or that's just how I see it.

RogiFan88
04-07-2006, 02:38 PM
As long as Roger gets the French, piggy can have Hamburg for all I care :)

As I said somewhere before, I don't care if Rogi doesn't win any of the clay TMSes as long as he could win RG, that would more than make up for any other title or points. In fact, he can do whatever he likes after that and I'd be very content indeed. ;)

RonE
04-07-2006, 02:55 PM
As I said somewhere before, I don't care if Rogi doesn't win any of the clay TMSes as long as he could win RG, that would more than make up for any other title or points. In fact, he can do whatever he likes after that and I'd be very content indeed. ;)

Ditto :yeah:

peripheral
04-07-2006, 03:40 PM
Good luck on the dirt Rogi!! :bounce: :bounce:

yanchr
04-07-2006, 03:53 PM
In fact, he can do whatever he likes after that and I'd be very content indeed. ;)
For me, Wimbledon is still a can't-miss one :p But I guess if he really can win RG this year, it won't be a big deal if he doesn't go on to win Wimbledon, unlike last year, when Wimbledon seemed about everything at that particular moment.

I actually have a good feeling now into the clay season, as well as RG ( last year I also did though :tape: ) But maybe it's about time ...

Rogiman
04-07-2006, 03:57 PM
I actually have a good feeling now into the clay season, as well as RG ( last year I also did though :tape: )
And he really had his best clay court season to date last season! :)

yanchr
04-07-2006, 04:18 PM
And he really had his best clay court season to date last season! :)
He did, but I didn't expect that kind of RG semi--one of the worst one I've ever seen him play if not the worst one on such a big stage :tape:

Rogiman
04-07-2006, 04:25 PM
He did, but I didn't expect that kind of RG semi--one of the worst one I've ever seen him play if not the worst one on such a big stage :tape:
That was really anti-climatic :tape:

And to think I wanted the Puerta-Davydenko match to finish early :tape:

yanchr
04-07-2006, 04:30 PM
That was really anti-climatic :tape:

And to think I wanted the Puerta-Davydenko match to finish early :tape:
And I had wanted no rain delay, or they were the first semi ...

See, everything proved that it was just not time :p Let's hope it is time this year :D

Lady Natalia
04-07-2006, 05:21 PM
Hello...Hello All! It has been a long time for me. But believe me I have been marveling in Roger's brilliance while gone. It's been 3 Grand Slams ago and each campaign has been filled with some Federer greatness. Wimbledon - Roger displayed the rarity of true grass court play. US Open - Roger showed that he could forge on through the elements while defeating a legend playing his best. Australian Open - One of Roger's greatest feats, displaying his abilities to win Grand Slams playing the transitional defense to offense. Now standing before him the clay, more specifically and importantly, the terre battue of Roland Garros.

I was browsing through the net looking at all the legends of tennis that won a career three of the four slams. Majority of them are lacking the prestigious Roland Garros trophy. Roger has shown that he has the abilities to surpass (or at least equal) even the greatest of the greats. Roger's legacy is NOT to be one of those players who only makes it to the semis of Roland Garros (i.e. Sampras, Conners...). I am not sure (but hoping) that Roger will win THE GRAND SLAM (this year), but he will obtain the Career Slam.

To be completely honest, I agree with Brad Gilbert who said (in reference to Roger's (GS) dominance), "Move over Steffi Graf and Martina Narvatilova because Roger is dominating men's tennis like they use to dominate women's tennis." That is a sentiment I expressed years ago (in my earlier posts) that Roger reminded me of Steffi in his dominance.

What I will guarantee is that IF Roger wins Roland Garros, this year, he will go on to win Wimbledon and the US Open. I have to say when I came back to the website for the first time, in the months I have been gone, it was fantastic to see 3 more Grand Slam trophies and 3 more Master Series (Cincy, Ind Wells, Nasdaq) events trophies in the Trophy Room.

It's going to be fun watching Roger try to win Roland Garros this year. History is in the making and Roger is the man to make it. He is so beautiful in his confidence. It's his destiny! And who is Rafael Nadal to stop him.

Bonne chance Roger :kiss:

nobama
04-07-2006, 06:04 PM
As I said somewhere before, I don't care if Rogi doesn't win any of the clay TMSes as long as he could win RG, that would more than make up for any other title or points. In fact, he can do whatever he likes after that and I'd be very content indeed. ;)Nope, gotta hold up that Wimby trophy for the 4th time...if for no other reason than to bug Sampras even more. Then he can go on holiday for the rest of the year. :)

nobama
04-07-2006, 06:06 PM
Roger can destroy him, I can feel it, it's just a matter of time until a match comes where he'll be able to sustain the same level of the 1st set of their Dubai encounter for a whole match, a little like what Edberg did to Courier in that USO final.

Rafa can't destroy Roger, not since that 2004 Miami match, he just doesn't have the guns to do it, or that's just how I see it.I'm glad to hear you say that. I really believe if they play each other on the dirt this year Roger will do much better than he did last year. Right now Rafa doesn't have the hype and momentum like he did last year. I think Roger will be more relaxed when playing him this year.

peripheral
04-07-2006, 06:08 PM
Nope, gotta hold up that Wimby trophy for the 4th time...if for no other reason than to bug Sampras even more. Then he can go on holiday for the rest of the year. :)
:lol: :lol: :yeah:

RogiFan88
04-07-2006, 06:36 PM
For me, Wimbledon is still a can't-miss one :p But I guess if he really can win RG this year, it won't be a big deal if he doesn't go on to win Wimbledon, unlike last year, when Wimbledon seemed about everything at that particular moment.

I actually have a good feeling now into the clay season, as well as RG ( last year I also did though :tape: ) But maybe it's about time ...

Well, of course in my dreams, I w want Rogi to do the RG-Wimby feat! I don't know if anyone else has a chance to do THAT! ;) A year without Rogi winning Wimby is like a lost year... :p

stebs
04-07-2006, 07:34 PM
Right now Rafa doesn't have the hype and momentum like he did last year. I think Roger will be more relaxed when playing him this year.

Yes, but Rafa may have the hype when RG comes along. For all we know Rafa could be on a 25+ match winning streak by the time they face each other in RG.

I can't believe how anti-climactic it will be if Roger and Rafa don't square off at RG. Everyone is so quick to assume it WILL happen.

nobama
04-07-2006, 11:25 PM
I can't believe how anti-climactic it will be if Roger and Rafa don't square off at RG. Everyone is so quick to assume it WILL happen.And if Roger happens to win RG without having to play Rafa in the finals people will say it's not legit or something.

NYCtennisfan
04-08-2006, 01:12 AM
Let's just hope it will be Nadal-Fed in the RG final. Like mirkaland said, if he doesn't beat Nadal, there will be all of these, " He didn't beat anyone," whining kind of what goes on for Agassi's win at RG in 1999.

Skyward
04-08-2006, 01:31 AM
Let's just hope it will be Nadal-Fed in the RG final. Like mirkaland said, if he doesn't beat Nadal, there will be all of these, " He didn't beat anyone," whining kind of what goes on for Agassi's win at RG in 1999.

In my head I know you're right, but my heart says otherwise. I just want him to win this year. I don't care if it's Lisnard or Nadal on the other side.

nobama
04-08-2006, 01:46 AM
Let's just hope it will be Nadal-Fed in the RG final. Like mirkaland said, if he doesn't beat Nadal, there will be all of these, " He didn't beat anyone," whining kind of what goes on for Agassi's win at RG in 1999.Oh I think it depends who he plays. Nadal's not the only one who can play on the dirt. But people for sure would say he got lucky because he didn't face Nadal. Of course they would say that about anyone, not just Roger. That's why I'm hoping Rafa's not as dominant on the clay this year so people won't have a reason to say it.

mangoes
04-08-2006, 03:18 AM
Let's just hope it will be Nadal-Fed in the RG final. Like mirkaland said, if he doesn't beat Nadal, there will be all of these, " He didn't beat anyone," whining kind of what goes on for Agassi's win at RG in 1999.

Wholeheartedly agree............ As much as the prospect does make me a bit anxious for Roger, that is the best way for him to win RG. It would put a fullstop/period to many possible debate topics.

TenHound
04-08-2006, 05:36 AM
Tennis Greatest Writer captures clay court tennis.

Rallying call of Paris clay

May 21, 2005

For the clay-hearted, the French Open is a paradise, where tennis is chess and the game always wins, Rohit Brijnath writes

For all of us, some seasons in sport have a precious allure, something about the familiar sound of a particular sporting combat, something to its distinctive style and colours that enlivens the senses. All off-season, we wring hands and distractedly flick channels, and then, abruptly, when the season starts anew, in a way so do we. The favourite couch. The cold beer. Silence. Play. Salvation.

For some, that distant growl of a formula one engine is akin to an aphrodisiac; for others, it is the batsman's first still stance of the summer. For some, the first whistle of the soccer season is entry to a perfect universe, and for most here, of course, it is the sight of players tearing through a cheer squad banner.

For me, deliverance is the words Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Munich, Rome, Hamburg and then, finally, heavenly Paris. A year is never too long to wait for the French Open and claycourt tennis. Sliding explosions of shale, dusted socks turning the colour of wine, sweat flying from players heads like a soft rain, the whirr of topspin accompanied by screams of "Allez" and an opera of grunting. To the faithful, Gustavo Kuerten, in his prime, sounded like Pavarotti.

There, in Europe, French, German and Spanish are not the only foreign languages on offer; for many, the tennis itself is an idiom they cannot fathom. Degrees in tennis elsewhere are not always recognised in this European university of clay.

There is the best tennis player in the world, and then sometimes there is the best claycourt player in the world. The vocabulary of tennis alters and not just in the quaint call of "egalite" (deuce) by the umpire. If in the Australian summer, Hewitt, Safin and Roddick slipped easily off the tongue, now we say Coria, Nadal, Ferrero, Gasquet. On this surface, in a way, gods and mortals exchange places. Even Roger Federer, the exception to most rules in tennis, is not completely his grand self.

Clay asks for different shoes, extra socks and an altered mindset. It is a challenge to body, and also to intellect. Pete Sampras once said: "I play my best tennis on instinct, but on clay, I tend to over-think it - do I want to come in? Do I not want to come in?" Still, he wonders. Last month, Federer gave it his own spin: "The serve doesn't get that many free points as maybe on other surfaces and also you just have to be more patient mentally and physically."

Mats Wilander-style productions of tedious, slow-motion rallies have mostly ceased, and shots are fired furiously from the baseline, yet muscle, which works on hardcourt, is itself not enough on these slow courts. So chess must be played, too, and on the dead run. Points must be plotted and topspinning conspiracies forged, openings assiduously crafted and chinks in armour patiently widened. Here, respite is not a familiar word, marathons are run in an enclosed space and no lead is ever safe.

Specialists can be recognised by their mastering of the dance step particular to terra battue. Experts such as Guillermo Coria will slide, sometimes three metres, into a shot, meet the ball perfectly and turn adroitly; novices like James Blake will do, as he once said, "the American slide - slide, hit the ball, slide a little more and then almost lose my balance". Connoisseurs will just nod sagely; heretics, who prefer fast food to five-course meals, will merely nod off.

This is tennis that cannot just be seen, but heard, for in almost every strumming of the racquet strings a different story of spin is told. Be advised, Shane Warne has a Masters degree in spin, Ferrero a PhD. Some balls hiss, others hover like angry bees and then sting, others still kick two storeys high on the backhand; players are pushed backwards into a linesman's lap and then heard slithering their way forward to a sly drop shot.

Shots that put a full stop to rallies elsewhere are merely commas here, and are sometimes returned, incredibly, with interest, and Job rapidly becomes everyone's patron saint. Perhaps of all places, here on clay, we see clearest the marriage of consistency and precision, the alliance of speed with stamina, the relationship between power and guile and the rapidly changing rhythms of defence and attack.

Rafael Nadal has exemplified this artform all season, pushing players deep, then wide, teasing them, bullying them, modifying pace, exploring angles, running around his backhand to maximise his strength on the forehand. Evidently too young to know better, he has even, deliberately, got within hand-shaking distance of the net now and then. But volleys are answered with lobs and players must scamper back to the baseline to restart rallies, and as Federer said recently, on clay the bizarre occurs: "Sometimes you have to win a point not only once, but twice or three times."

Spectators are delivered endless pleasure but players mostly are only guaranteed suffering. Bananas are consumed by the bunch at changeovers, cramp is as common as croissants, and wonderfully underhand methods like under-arm serves (remember Michael Chang?) are not completely unknown. Only on clay will umpires scamper, too, down to the court to check a mark, though if protestations get too long, there is always the Jimmy Connors method, for if memory does not betray me, he once jogged to an opponent's side of the net, erased a mark with his foot and jogged back.

Serve and volleyers - the few that are left - will pray rain does not turn courts slower, and will do well to remember Gordon Forbes' words, who wrote in his classic A Handful of Summers that, "on the way to the net, one automatically had visions of the valley of death". After all, passing shots seem to be hit with a yawn and a half-closed eye.

Still, last year, Tim Henman reached the French semi-finals, and on clay, too, like elsewhere, there is always hope. At every set's completion, more or less, the court is brushed and all start with a clean slate.

TenHound
04-08-2006, 05:42 AM
Another Gem of his from my files. Enjoy :) :)

Roland Garros — a graveyard of heroes

Rohit Brijnath

Federer is seen as the player of the greatest tennis but not yet its greatest player, writes Rohit Brijnath

Two hundred years hence when archaeologists search for clues to the broken dreams of old tennis heroes they will commence by sifting the dust at the ancient arena of Roland Garros.

Deep in the Paris clay washed by tears, amidst the small shards of shattered rackets, the earth will tell poignant stories. Of John McEnroe, succumbing when just a volley away from beating Ivan Lendl in the 1984 final; of Pete Sampras' five-set gallantry in 1996 over Sergie Bruguera and Jim Courier, both French champions, but finding his body could go no further.

Of how Stefan Edberg's sinewy splendour, and Jimmy Connors's grimacing desire, and Boris Becker's pounding ferocity, would all come to die here. Most of these men would win the other three slams, but clay would claim them and alter history. If McEnroe had conquered France he would be one of the five greatest ever; if Sampras had, Rod Laver would concede his throne.


Greatest player?



So then, 200 years from now, what will these archaeologists find about Roger Federer? The bones of Swiss defeat or the faint footprints of famous victory?

Federer is already seen as the player of the greatest tennis we have seen, but not yet its greatest player. That designation appears imminent, too, but it will be undisputed if he wins the French to become the sixth player after Don Budge, Fred Perry, Laver, Roy Emerson, and Andre Agassi to succeed at all four Slams.

Both Sampras, the defeated, and Thomas Muster, the (1995) victor, dubbed the French the `toughest' Slam to win, but then Federer is tennis' toughest player. He is also its most beautiful and when he performs you half expect critics from a paper's art, not sports, section to be in attendance. We know, too, he can paint on any canvas for last summer he produced consecutive victories at Wimbledon (grass), Gstaad (clay) and Toronto (hard court).

But if on most surfaces his game is so astonishingly dominant that allowing him one serve seems the only fair handicap, there remains the suspicion that clay faintly erodes his menace. His career winning percentage is 77.6 on hard court, 78.4 on grass but 68.8 on clay. Everywhere else he is favourite, at the French it is Rafael Nadal; everywhere else men look anxiously to see if they are his chosen lunch, at the French even he might secretly wish for a friendly draw.

No theory sits easily with Federer and clay. One might say that at 80 per cent efficiency, he can withstand most challenges on grass, but on his off days, like against Gustavo Kuerten at the French last year, may have more fatal implications. That said, he appeared less fluent in Hamburg on clay last week, but still won without dropping a set. This man does not merely own tennis' finest `A' game, but also its most capable `B' game.

The leveller



Perhaps the leveller is not merely surface, but opponent. Unlike grass, clay is rife with specialists; unlike hard court where the Swiss has no immediate peer, on clay the distance between him and the pack of Coria, Nadal, Gasquet closes minutely.

His outrageous talent suggests Federer must win the French one day, but sport routinely makes a mockery of such assumptions. Nevertheless, it makes this Open even more enchanting, for there is something pleasing to the fact that even tennis' grand riddler is confronted by a puzzle he is yet to solve. It is almost an affront to his genius and it could spur him. So, too, could his belief that he is too finely gifted to become just another headstone in this graveyard of heroes.

TennisGrandSlam
04-08-2006, 05:46 AM
Maybe only 1 guy can stop Roger in Clay - Nadal

SUKTUEN
04-08-2006, 05:57 AM
GOOD LUCK Roger~!!!

nobama
04-08-2006, 07:21 AM
I just want him to win RG period. I don't care who he plays. You play the draw in front of you. I mean if Nadal wins RG but doesn't have to beat Roger to do it are people going to say it's not a legitimate win? Of course not.

SUKTUEN
04-08-2006, 08:54 AM
when will the draw come out?

yanchr
04-08-2006, 09:42 AM
I just want him to win RG period. I don't care who he plays. You play the draw in front of you. I mean if Nadal wins RG but doesn't have to beat Roger to do it are people going to say it's not a legitimate win? Of course not.
Yeah. In the long run, people won't remember who he beats in the final as long as he wins it; people will only remember he hasn't won it and won't care less about who he loses to and how.

And I'm nowhere close to cheering for Nadal in RG, just wanting him to set up a final with Roger. Hell no.

ytben
04-08-2006, 12:09 PM
Nope, gotta hold up that Wimby trophy for the 4th time...if for no other reason than to bug Sampras even more. Then he can go on holiday for the rest of the year. :)

I originally shared your sentiment then I realized that if he win Wimbly, then he will be just one USO away from the fabled calendar GS. So if he decide to go on holiday for the rest of the year afterward, I discover I will be very very upset (yes I am a greedy bitch :devil: )

nobama
04-08-2006, 01:44 PM
when will the draw come out?for what?

Xristos
04-08-2006, 03:19 PM
Monte Carlo maybe....?

Monteque
04-08-2006, 05:00 PM
Roger isn't weak on clay. Nowadays, we can say he is no.2 in clay below nadal. Even claycourter like coria, gaudio, or moya are no match to Fed.

Gulliver
04-08-2006, 07:47 PM
Do you get the feeling that Federer is really looking forward to the clay season this year, and I mean really looking forward? I detect more of a note of excitement in what he says about focusing on the French, not that that detracts from his ever present desire for further Wimbledon trophies. I also feel that the interim TMS are part of the grand design and one win with a loss or two, as long as he has plenty of matches under his belt, shouldn't lead to too much handwringing.

I know he is not complacent, but with AO, Wimbledon, and USO he's been there, done that and got the T shirt, so this challenge is the next big one. Last year was a dress rehearsal, and the saying is that a poor dress rehearsal leads to a great performance! We shall see.

NYCtennisfan
04-08-2006, 09:49 PM
Oh I think it depends who he plays. Nadal's not the only one who can play on the dirt. But people for sure would say he got lucky because he didn't face Nadal. Of course they would say that about anyone, not just Roger. That's why I'm hoping Rafa's not as dominant on the clay this year so people won't have a reason to say it.


Then people will say that he was injured an not "in form". :) Everyone here knows that this is what will be said. Best case scenario is this: Nadal and Fed dominate the clay season or even if only Nadal dominates and there is a final showdown on Sunday in Paris. Fed wins that, there is nothing more that can be said. Everyone will just have to step off and eat it. :)

As for Fed being excited about the clay season, I really think he is. The thing that is really important I think is that he defended all of his points from the pre-clay season and added some points on top of that. Nobody thought that it was reasonably possible, not even Fed I think. This has relaxed him and he also knows that he is not the big dog on clay and doesn't hold all the titles. It's the only time when he doesn't have all the pressure on him, relatively speaking at least.

TenHound
04-09-2006, 01:19 AM
No Question - if he can pull off Paris, barring injury, he definitely should become current holder of last 6 Major Trophies come September :) Of course, if he shimmied up the Eiffel Tower, he'd be standing on top of it as well! Or,...

But no one has ever won 3 Majors in a yr. more than once to my knowledge. If he did that 2,3 or 4 times, I'd settle for that. Saying he has to win Paris to be considered greater than Pete is merely a way for empty minds to fill time.

Xristos
04-09-2006, 02:44 AM
I love Fed. I really do....but he is no match for Nadal on clay. Unless something happens to Nadal at the French Fed wont win....

World Beater
04-09-2006, 04:39 AM
No Question - if he can pull off Paris, barring injury, he definitely should become current holder of last 6 Major Trophies come September :) Of course, if he shimmied up the Eiffel Tower, he'd be standing on top of it as well! Or,...

But no one has ever won 3 Majors in a yr. more than once to my knowledge. If he did that 2,3 or 4 times, I'd settle for that. Saying he has to win Paris to be considered greater than Pete is merely a way for empty minds to fill time.

laver did the grand slam twice. not consecutively though.

SUKTUEN
04-09-2006, 07:16 AM
for what?
monte carlo :devil:

Rogiman
04-09-2006, 10:00 AM
I love Fed. I really do....but he is no match for Nadal on clay. Unless something happens to Nadal at the French Fed wont win....
Listen, dude, if you plan on talking some more nonsense I shall advice you to do it somewhere else.
"Fed is no match for Nadal on clay" implies you did not see much of their only encounter on clay to date, where Roger played some of his crappiest tennis ever, yet managed to take a set and be up a break in the 4th before falling apart.
If anything Nadal squeezd out that win, in his usual ugly fashion.

Fed winning or losing against Nadal has nothing to do with the surface, he's managed to lose to Nadal on supposedly his best surface, and can prevail on supposedly his worst one.

nobama
04-09-2006, 11:11 AM
laver did the grand slam twice. not consecutively though.But both times three of the slams were on grass, right? Imagine how many more slams Pete (and Roger) would have if three of the four were played on grass.

Xristos
04-09-2006, 11:45 AM
Listen, dude, if you plan on talking some more nonsense I shall advice you to do it somewhere else.
"Fed is no match for Nadal on clay" implies you did not see much of their only encounter on clay to date, where Roger played some of his crappiest tennis ever, yet managed to take a set and be up a break in the 4th before falling apart.
If anything Nadal squeezd out that win, in his usual ugly fashion.

Fed winning or losing against Nadal has nothing to do with the surface, he's managed to lose to Nadal on supposedly his best surface, and can prevail on supposedly his worst one.
We shall see..

Rogiman
04-09-2006, 11:54 AM
We shall see..
You're posting in the wrong forum.

mangoes
04-10-2006, 01:39 AM
I love Fed. I really do....but he is no match for Nadal on clay. Unless something happens to Nadal at the French Fed wont win....

Exactly the reason I'd love Roger to meet Rafa on center court for the final of the FO to earn his 8th GS............. so that fans of Roger won't be subjected to the "what ifs" scenarios. Either way, I want Roger to win, but a win against Rafa will be definitely special..................

nobama
04-10-2006, 02:27 AM
I just hope these DC ties wore out all these players and Roger will be fresh and ready to go once MC comes. Safin and Hewitt didn't play much, but with their form of late I don't see either of them as threats this clay season.

mangoes
04-10-2006, 03:01 AM
I just hope these DC ties wore out all these players and Roger will be fresh and ready to go once MC comes. Safin and Hewitt didn't play much, but with their form of late I don't see either of them as threats this clay season.


Safin is getting stronger. Let's see how he does in Valencia. But, I think there is a solid chance that Safin will make a return to the top of the rankings vs a doubtful return from Hewitt.

SUKTUEN
04-10-2006, 04:58 AM
if Nadal is healthy , Roger must be very very hard to win the match

Xristos
04-10-2006, 08:43 AM
Ohh dont get me wrong I WANT Fed to win...and I hope it happens..

RonE
04-10-2006, 03:26 PM
if Nadal is healthy , Roger must be very very hard to win the match

Suktuen :eek: :tape:

In that case, I hope he takes an extra dose of Viagra before the match ;) :p

World Beater
04-11-2006, 05:46 AM
Suktuen :eek: :tape:

In that case, I hope he takes an extra dose of Viagra before the match ;) :p

yes because as we all know nadal has a big ass :tape:

RonE
04-11-2006, 06:13 AM
yes because as we all know nadal has a big ass :tape:

Not to mention the fact that he will need quite a bit of lubricant :tape:

What am I saying???? :eek: People are going to start to think me and Alfonsojose are one and the same :o

SUKTUEN
04-11-2006, 08:42 AM
yes because as we all know nadal has a big ass :tape:

I also very Hope Roger can Win FO~~~ :devil: :devil:
Roger GO GO GO~!! I WILL PRAY FOR YOU~! :D :D

bokehlicious
04-11-2006, 09:05 AM
What am I saying???? :eek: People are going to start to think me and Alfonsojose are one and the same :o

Since I figured out that you were a huge 'pork fetishist' I always thought you and Fonzie were one and same person :o :p ;)

RonE
04-11-2006, 01:38 PM
Since I figured out that you were a huge 'pork fetishist' I always thought you and Fonzie were one and same person :o :p ;)

Let's make a distinction here- there are two processes which make up pork fetishism:

1.) Roasting
2.) Consumption

I am merely interested in process #1. Process #2 I will leave to others :devil:

ExpectedWinner
04-11-2006, 05:56 PM
I can't believe how anti-climactic it will be if Roger and Rafa don't square off at RG. Everyone is so quick to assume it WILL happen.

So many players can prevent this final from happening. In no particular order-Almagro, Acasuso, Andreev, Safin, Nalbandian, Ferrero, Ferrer, Horna, Hrbaty, Verdasco. Coria, Gaudio might improve their form; Ljubicic, Baghdatis, Gasquet might get hot, etc.

RogiFan88
04-11-2006, 07:44 PM
Well, so far, some "upsets" in Valencia: Davydenko, Ferrer [ret'd], Andreev [defending champ, beaten by the unpredictable one], also out: Ferrero [no surprise but beaten by Almagro]. Gaudio and Verdasco my only hopes for this tourney now... :sad:

Junes
04-12-2006, 01:57 AM
Get the Roland Garros for us ,Roger!

SUKTUEN
04-12-2006, 08:10 AM
I will always pray for Roger!!!

GOD PLEASE BLESS Roger to Win this FO~!!!
Please~!!!!!!!!! :worship: :worship:

Art&Soul
04-12-2006, 09:49 AM
OF course he WILL, Suktuen, Lets wait and believe :cool:

SUKTUEN
04-12-2006, 09:55 AM
I trust Him~!!!

RogiFan88
04-12-2006, 01:41 PM
Thank God Verdasco won today!! Now to wait for Gaston tomorrow!

Daniel
04-13-2006, 05:29 AM
Roger :hug:

SUKTUEN
04-13-2006, 10:02 AM
oh