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What are Fed's chances of winning RG and doing the Non Calendar Slam ?

TheMightyFed
03-28-2006, 09:22 AM
It's gonna be tough. Is it realistic ? Nadal has almost skipped Miami to prepare the clay season. Fed is extra motivated, he will get the non calendar slam pressure from media. His game is on, his ankle seems OK. At this stage if he meets Nadal in the finals he will need an awesome performance given the bad matchup with Nadal, especially on clay. It seems to be a real challenge. What signs would make you think that Fed can win this one ?

stebs
03-28-2006, 09:43 AM
It's gonna be tough. Is it realistic ? Nadal has almost skipped Miami to prepare the clay season. Fed is extra motivated, he will get the non calendar slam pressure from media. His game is on, his ankle seems OK. At this stage if he meets Nadal in the finals he will need an awesome performance given the bad matchup with Nadal, especially on clay. It seems to be a real challenge. What signs would make you think that Fed can win this one ?

I'm honestly not sure. We will have a better idea after some clay tournies. I don't buy into the whole 'Rafa tanked Miami' thing. I think he got beat fair and square.

Fed is on awesome form right now but RG is still a while away. His form can change hugely in that time.

TheMightyFed
03-28-2006, 10:54 AM
Rafa losing first round in Miami ? Just after racking up points in Indian Wells ? Right before the clay season ? To his best friend on tour ? Smells really like a tank IMO. Anyway it doesn't change the task that's waiting for Rog in Paris. It's huge but he seems pretty serious these days. A Rafa's upset in quarters or semis in RG would be fine for me. There's been a kind of maledication on great attacking players in Roland since Laver, sometimes in finals but never winners. I hope it will end this year.

yanchr
03-28-2006, 11:01 AM
What signs would make you think that Fed can win this one ?
No signs now in reality, but there is in my dream :angel:

Seriously, I mean, though still early to call, but why not? From what I saw of his previous meetings with Nadal, it might be more a mental thing than other things that prevented him from toppling Nadal. I seriously believe if he can play fine even maybe not absolutely awesome but CONSISTENTLY in the best of 5 clay match in RG, no lapse like in Dubai or last RG semi-final, the match will be in his hands.

Well well well, I'd better stop. There is still too long a way to go. I now just hope his ankle is ok, his fitness stays fine all through to RG, and him not to be carried away by all the coming pressure from all over which I already can foresee will be horrible.

TheMightyFed
03-28-2006, 11:05 AM
Seriously, I mean, though still early to call, but why not? From what I saw of his previous meetings with Nadal, it might be more a mental thing than other things that prevented him from toppling Nadal. I seriously believe if he can play fine even maybe not absolutely awesome but CONSISTENTLY in the best of 5 clay match in RG, no lapse like in Dubai or last RG semi-final, the match will be in his hands.
I hope he plays him once on clay before RG, because to stay on a loss on hard is not very encouraging, unless his thrust for revenge is magnified to have lost on his surface...

yanchr
03-28-2006, 11:23 AM
...because to stay on a loss on hard is not very encouraging, ...
Actually I had wanted to say, no signs that he can now, but signs that maybe he can't because of that loss to Nadal on hardcourt... :p

The loss itself is not only not encouraging, but actually frustrating, but I think the process is at least a bit encouraging...

Dirk
03-28-2006, 12:15 PM
It's gonna be tough. Is it realistic ? Nadal has almost skipped Miami to prepare the clay season. Fed is extra motivated, he will get the non calendar slam pressure from media. His game is on, his ankle seems OK. At this stage if he meets Nadal in the finals he will need an awesome performance given the bad matchup with Nadal, especially on clay. It seems to be a real challenge. What signs would make you think that Fed can win this one ?

Nadal was talking about his ankle pain in his post match interview after Moya match so who knows how fit he will be before RG. Roger seemed ok with his since he smiled it off.

lsy
03-28-2006, 01:28 PM
Not a clue at this moment. I doubt any of us here really have any answer to that? :shrug:

One thing for sure though nothing will make me more happy to see him lifting that trophy :) Even if he couldn't this year, I know he will do everything he possibly can to win it at least once in his career. That much we can be sure.

Besides, I don't believe a bit that's all he could have done vs Nadal in the RG match last year and no I'm not saying that Nadal was at his best either, but I wish even if he couldn't win it, he would have given it his best/all in whatever circumstances it is and that would be fine for me.

We'll see and we obvioulys can't wait, aren't we? ;)

TheMightyFed
03-28-2006, 01:45 PM
We'll see and we obvioulys can't wait, aren't we? ;)
No we can't, it's the most exciting challenge of Fed these days.
Keeping his grass record going is another one.

TennisGrandSlam
03-28-2006, 01:46 PM
Nadal is the most poweful barrier!

Also, the Spanish-speaking Clay Experts are also strong!

SUKTUEN
03-28-2006, 03:40 PM
Fifty Fifty~~

TenHound
03-28-2006, 05:40 PM
They should meet before RG, unless something runs off the rails. Roger plans to play M-C- & Rome this yr. Wonder if they'll allow Puerta back in time for Paris - the hearing was a set up for a reversal on appeal on totally bogus grounds - gee, shucksypoo, my wife spiked my drink - pllleaseeeee. RN-Puerta was so boring, I didn't last 3 pts. just watching it; so if Roger has to play him in early rounds, god knows if he falls asleep as well.

I thght. he'd max his chances if he played clay since AO, except for IW, so he'd get used to the pace - spend 4-6 mos. on clay & it would become a part of him, rather than an irritating but necessary diversion. Look how short his points were v. Haas last night. He has to get his patience back. Not get bored, or lose focus. (Wonder if anyone has calculated avg. length of match & avg. #shots/pt. on h-c-'s vs. clay(RG) - or Wimby vs. RG. Be interesting.)

He & Mauresmo will both have huge targets on their backs this yr. It'd be a special yr. if men's final is Rog-Thuggy & Women's is Mauresmo-Henin!!!

TenHound
03-28-2006, 05:48 PM
P.S. It'd be less awkward, if you called it a Sequential Grand Slam, rather than a non-calendar G-S- - as that's what it is - winning All 4 Majors in sequence, irrespective of which one you win first. And I don't see any reason it should matter which one you win first.

After hearing last night what Billy Jean had to say to Roger about his backhand volley, I thght. it might be worthwhile for Roger to pick the brains of other greats for their observations. Then, this am, I thght. of Borg, who's broke & knows more about winning them b2b than anyone. He should hire Borg & have him in his box in Paris & perhaps London. He may have one thing to say that's really helpful to Roger. Of course, Borg could be an ignorant bastard these days... But the concept was appealing.

Dirk
03-28-2006, 05:52 PM
Roger has roche but he does need to improve his approach shots. Must be deeper to the baseline. I hope Tony is telling him and Roger is forgetting to do it.

TheMightyFed
03-28-2006, 07:08 PM
P.S. It'd be less awkward, if you called it a Sequential Grand Slam, rather than a non-calendar G-S- - as that's what it is - winning All 4 Majors in sequence, irrespective of which one you win first. And I don't see any reason it should matter which one you win first.

After hearing last night what Billy Jean had to say to Roger about his backhand volley, I thght. it might be worthwhile for Roger to pick the brains of other greats for their observations. Then, this am, I thght. of Borg, who's broke & knows more about winning them b2b than anyone. He should hire Borg & have him in his box in Paris & perhaps London. He may have one thing to say that's really helpful to Roger. Of course, Borg could be an ignorant bastard these days... But the concept was appealing.
Yep Borg would do a good adviser to Fed, but his own game was very defensive while Roche won the French while being an attacking Australian, so he's the guy. The question is to know if Fed has enough time to get consistent in terms of:
-patience
-solid approach shots
-management of strong top spin (esp. on his BH, esp. lefty ;) )
If he goes deep in the three clay tournies it means he's gotten a good level of consistency. With the rest, experience, confidence, toughness, stamina, good baseline game, he could do it....

Minnie
03-28-2006, 09:44 PM
Tenhound ... Borg is certainly not broke by the way ... and as for whether Roger can win the French ... my heart says YES,but my head knows how hard its going to be for him with a Nadal desperately keen to hold on to his one GS title. Clearly Nadal is beatable ... Blake has done it twice in a row!

Rogiman
03-28-2006, 10:12 PM
Roger's loss to Rafa in Dubai seems to have been a great wake-up call after all I guess, seeing as he currently plays some of his best tennis in a long while and enjoys it, which makes us enjoy as well (loved how he smashed Haashole to pieces :lol: ).

If he met Rafa tomorrow I truely believe he would kill him, and all the "bad matchup" talk would be thrown out of the window.
When Roger is on (and he certainly is now) he's unplayable, and it's been a while since he last played like that, but thankfully the killer is back (I admit I started doubting after that horrible Dubai loss, but he definitely wasn't the same Roger up to midway through IW), and his ability (or inability) to beat Nadal is not surface-dependant.

Of course it's easier said than done (it always is), but a priori his chances at RG are as good as anyone's, Nadal included.

bokehlicious
03-29-2006, 08:29 AM
Glad to read such kind of 'positive' thoughts from you Rogiman ! :yeah: :cool:

makro120
03-29-2006, 11:11 AM
If Federer wins a noncalendar slam, chances are big for him to be the 1st player to ever win 5 straight grand slams in wimbledon. Wouldnt that be greater than winning a calendar grand slam?

TheMightyFed
03-29-2006, 11:30 AM
If Federer wins a noncalendar slam, chances are big for him to be the 1st player to ever win 5 straight grand slams in wimbledon. Wouldnt that be greater than winning a calendar grand slam?
Not sure, Navratilova won 6 slams in succession (3 and 3) but gets little credit for that compared to Graf 88 golden slam...
but in men's game it would be the most fabulous thing since Borg 3 doubles RG/Wimby IMO and/or Laver 69 slam.

SUKTUEN
03-29-2006, 02:47 PM
As I say,

I Trust You Roger!!!!!!!!!!!

Whistleway
03-29-2006, 05:09 PM
Odds are not this year. But, who knows. There is still a heck a lot of tennis to be played before RG.

TenHound
03-30-2006, 04:02 AM
Re Rogiman's post, on DoBuy's loss being a wakeup call - I didn't see the match. Does anyone know if his ankle brace was off by then, and if so when it came off?

I notice that @IW & now Miami he's moving better than at any time since Houston ('04) - recall his feet started causing him probs. Ĺus '05. Now again he seems to be getting to everything well. Blake will be a test, as I expect he learned from their last match that he wasn't using a good strategy, and tomorrow he'll concentrate on taking time away from him.

PaulieM
03-30-2006, 04:05 AM
the only thing i know is what my gut says about this one...:)

TenHound
03-30-2006, 04:06 AM
Here's my vote - tongue partly in cheek - learning from AA's Paris Victory. He dug soo deep 'cuz that was his courtship tournament. Steffi had just won it & he had to prove himself worthy of her love.

So, kids, what if Mirka...you fill in the blanks...tells him she'll leave him unless he wins Paris, or....something to force him dig deeper inside himself than he ever has....make it mean everything to him, as AA's Paris victory did to him....Mirka, dear, pls. come up w/some novel strategy to help move things along...call Steffi & pick her brain :) :)

TenHound
03-30-2006, 04:08 AM
P.S. It's not just RN that's a challenge. An in-form Coria, or if they let Puerta back early (I expect they'll keep him out a year.)...there are several people either individually, or in succession who could defeat him, or tire him out & weaken him, making it more plausible that he could lose to a not great player...

SUKTUEN
03-30-2006, 03:01 PM
if he win the Olpymic is prefect

bradrmattison
05-14-2006, 08:31 PM
Roger has roche but he does need to improve his approach shots. Must be deeper to the baseline. I hope Tony is telling him and Roger is forgetting to do it.

I don't think it is appropriate for anyone to make commentary on any of Roger Federer's groudstrokes. The approach shant really be a matter on clay anyway.

SUKTUEN
05-15-2006, 07:45 AM
I don't think it is appropriate for anyone to make commentary on any of Roger Federer's groudstrokes.


Yes, we will see he do a Great Job in RG :D

Minnie
05-15-2006, 08:30 AM
Here's my vote - tongue partly in cheek - learning from AA's Paris Victory. He dug soo deep 'cuz that was his courtship tournament. Steffi had just won it & he had to prove himself worthy of her love.

So, kids, what if Mirka...you fill in the blanks...tells him she'll leave him unless he wins Paris, or....something to force him dig deeper inside himself than he ever has....make it mean everything to him, as AA's Paris victory did to him....Mirka, dear, pls. come up w/some novel strategy to help move things along...call Steffi & pick her brain :) :)

Tenhound, I've been thinking along the same lines myself. I was thinking that if Roger meets Nadal in the final at RG (highly likely), he could convince himself that if he lost, then he'd lose Mirka to Nadal - a fate worse than death for poor Mirka!).

landoud
05-15-2006, 10:50 AM
I believehe can win RG

SUKTUEN
05-15-2006, 03:35 PM
I believehe can win RG
I believe too~ :D

RogiFan88
05-15-2006, 05:06 PM
I care about RG but I don't care about the fake "non-calendar" slam...

the_natural
05-16-2006, 07:58 AM
What are u talkin about?? When he wins that hes gonna win Wimbledon without losing a set and then he will have nothing to lose at the USO. Once he achieves the NON calendar GS this year he will then win the complete GS.

WF4EVER
05-16-2006, 10:49 AM
TenHound and Minnie, are you two really serious about that Mirka/Steffi crap?

I'd like to think Roger's performance at RG will depend solely on his own desire and not what you two are suggesting!

To answer the thread topic anyway, I believe Roger cna win the GRand Slam, and I don't mean non-calendar, either. He's never been in a better position than he is now. He is playing excellently this year overall and on clay in particular (since we are talking about RG).

If he can maintain his Finals streak when he gets to RG he has an excellent opportunity to win it. Wimby is a no-brainer and by that I mean that Roger needs no motivation going into WImby. He loves Wimby and I don't believe he'll feel any pressure there at all, but the USO would be his only hurdle. I think that's where the pressure would start.

But let's wait and see what happens at RG. Of course, if he wins that he would have answered your question.

SUKTUEN
05-16-2006, 03:59 PM
Roger have a very big improve in clay~!!

I trust him~! :D

the_natural
05-18-2006, 01:35 PM
TenHound and Minnie, are you two really serious about that Mirka/Steffi crap?

I'd like to think Roger's performance at RG will depend solely on his own desire and not what you two are suggesting!

To answer the thread topic anyway, I believe Roger cna win the GRand Slam, and I don't mean non-calendar, either. He's never been in a better position than he is now. He is playing excellently this year overall and on clay in particular (since we are talking about RG).

If he can maintain his Finals streak when he gets to RG he has an excellent opportunity to win it. Wimby is a no-brainer and by that I mean that Roger needs no motivation going into WImby. He loves Wimby and I don't believe he'll feel any pressure there at all, but the USO would be his only hurdle. I think that's where the pressure would start.

But let's wait and see what happens at RG. Of course, if he wins that he would have answered your question.


Do u mean pressure to win the final gs and go down in history?? Cos I reckon USO is a no brainer too... the only hurdle is himself there, no players there :confused:

SUKTUEN
05-18-2006, 04:23 PM
because he want

ExpectedWinner
05-18-2006, 05:22 PM
.

So, kids, what if Mirka...you fill in the blanks...tells him she'll leave him unless he wins Paris, or....something to force him dig deeper inside himself than he ever has....make it mean everything to him

:smash: :smash: :smash:

ExpectedWinner
05-18-2006, 05:24 PM
I care about RG but I don't care about the fake "non-calendar" slam...

Agree.

SUKTUEN
05-19-2006, 09:15 AM
I just hope Roger happy to play tennis~~

SUKTUEN
05-19-2006, 09:15 AM
I just hope Roger happy to play tennis~~ :devil:

Minnie
05-19-2006, 10:30 PM
WF4Ever + Expected Winner ... .where is your sense of humour?????

ExpectedWinner
05-19-2006, 10:59 PM
WF4Ever + Expected Winner ... .where is your sense of humour?????

:shrug: Where was humor?

t0x
05-20-2006, 08:25 AM
I believe he can win the French, and Wimbledon, although hows he going to play Halle if he's involved in a mamouth final the day before? Grass court prep will be difficult, and I think the ATP should consider just one extra week between the 2 slams.

RonE
05-20-2006, 01:24 PM
Even with Rafa around, i believe his chances are as good as they ever were. He took his game on clay this year so far to a completely different level, and I think after making the semis at RG last year was when he really started believing that if he applies himself he is in with more than a shout. As long as he keeps believing it, his chances are looking ok- not fantastic, not the all-out favourite but still better than they ever were.

SUKTUEN
05-20-2006, 03:48 PM
If Roger can more stable he can win, he had too much unforce error :mad:

VampirE
05-21-2006, 01:12 AM
What are u talkin about?? When he wins that hes gonna win Wimbledon without losing a set and then he will have nothing to lose at the USO. Once he achieves the NON calendar GS this year he will then win the complete GS.

this is very likely to happen, although i doubt the love game...

Brianna
05-21-2006, 02:28 AM
I think Roger can do it. Go Roger! :)

lunahielo
05-21-2006, 03:43 AM
I hope..I hope..I hope~~~~~~~~~~ :)

I believe it's very possible.

TheMightyFed
05-21-2006, 08:50 AM
He's been the one who has pushed Rafa the furthest on clay since one year. He's put up every possible effort to do it, he's a slam champ, I believe in him.

bokehlicious
05-21-2006, 09:27 AM
As his current clay game may help him play even better on the grass and hard coming season, I somehow think that whether he manages to win the French open his chances for a calendar Slam remain really huge.

SUKTUEN
05-21-2006, 02:30 PM
no one can win Rg two times in a run these 6 year~~

GO Roger~!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

SUKTUEN
05-21-2006, 02:30 PM
no one can win Rg two times in a run these 6 years~~

GO Roger~!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

rogertooogood
05-21-2006, 05:07 PM
GOOD LUCK ROGER.........WHEN THE TIME COMES, JUST BELIEVE YOU DESERVE TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rogertooogood
05-21-2006, 05:18 PM
YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

SUKTUEN
05-22-2006, 04:37 PM
I pray for him~~~

RonE
05-26-2006, 08:16 PM
YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Nice avatar although you might have to wait for a lemongrass seasoning for your spareribs :lol:

mangoes
05-26-2006, 09:30 PM
Good Luck Roger. I'm going to pray for you.

I think Roger has a 50% chance of making this happen. I don't think Nadal has RG all wrapped up with colorful ribbons.

For Roger, RG will be one of his hardest battles and probably, if he wins, one of his most treasured victories.

SUKTUEN
05-27-2006, 06:24 PM
I pray for him now~~ :D

AnnaluvsRF
06-02-2006, 12:38 AM
Roger is so going to win the noncalendar grand slam. He's so determined to win the French and he proved in Rome that he's quite capable of beating Nadal on clay. I can't waittttttttttt

Oriental_Rain
06-02-2006, 05:13 AM
its all up to him:D

SUKTUEN
06-02-2006, 06:10 AM
I can't wait too~~~ :devil: