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claudine140
12-17-2003, 11:19 AM
where can we find information about which tennisplayers will take part of the olympics? Especially which spanish player will play in Athene?

Deboogle!.
12-17-2003, 01:44 PM
I believe it's determined by rankings.... so I'd guess Ferrero and Moya would be the first invited?

claudine140
12-28-2003, 07:38 AM
i've read that ferrero goes to the olympics, it would be great if moya can go too
Hewitt isn't going, but Guga does!!!
there is not much news about this subject lately, maybe it is too soon

tall_one
12-28-2003, 08:01 AM
I believe it's determined by rankings.... so I'd guess Ferrero and Moya would be the first invited?
Assuming that they continue to be the top 2 Spainish tennis players, then yes. We won't know for sure until the ranking the olympics use come out and that isn't until 14 June 2004.
But if Ferrero or Moya have a bad year and don't defend their points and drop in the rankings then it could be someone else from Spain that would go.
Sorry claudine140, but your just going to have to sit and wait and hope that whomever you want to go has a good year. :)

J. Corwin
12-28-2003, 08:35 AM
Yea...top two players in each country I think.

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 07:45 PM
I thought that I read that they were taking the top 48, then some wild cards? With no more than 4 from each national federation? I'm pretty sure that it's more than 2... surely a team like Spain, Argentina or USA ought to be able to bring more players than Australia?

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 07:46 PM
Claudine - if his ranking is high enough at the time - I imagine it will be - Moya has stated that he intends to play the Olympics with Juan Carlos... it's one of his goals for the year, or whatever.

Coria has said the same... although, no the "with Juan Carlos" part ;)

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 08:25 PM
Here's what it says on the ITF Olympics site:

Selection date: the International Computer Rankings of 14 June 2004 will be used to select players eligible for Direct Acceptance in singles and doubles.

Number of competitors: 172 maximum

Nomination dates:
MEN: A maximum of six (6) men may be nominated by any one country.
WOMEN: A maximum of six (6) women may be nominated by any one country.
A maximum of four (4) men may compete in the men's singles and a maximum of four (4) women may compete in the women's singles. A maximum of four (4) men and four (4) women may compete as teams in the men's and women's doubles.
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and I really don't see Ferrero or Moya dropping below the top 4 from Spain by June LOL

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 08:35 PM
Bunk - Ferrero and Moya are going to get shoved back by the coming of age of Lopez, Robredo and Nadal, and the return to greatness of Costa and Corretja. Didn't you hear? ;)

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 08:37 PM
Let's speculate! Who will make teams Spain, USA, and Argentina? ;)

This could be fun :p

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 08:46 PM
lol they might... but not by June ;)

Fun idea...Let's see.... b/c when you think about it - these are pretty much the only three countries with enough depth in the top to possibly send all 4 people, aren't they?

US:
Roddick
Fish
Dent
Ginepri
Blake will have to do something magical or hope one of the others doesn't want to go - maybe he'll improve Jan-June and be in the top 4 - I hope so, I'd rather see him go than Robby

Spain:
Ferrero
Moya
Lopez
4th spot could be up for grabs....Robredo maybe? not sure.

Argentina:
Coria
Nalbandian (assuming he doesn't have to have surgery or something)
then a little trickier! Zabaleta? Chela? Calleri? I don't know!

And as a digression....the Russian women's delegation will be interesting lol

Shy
12-28-2003, 09:03 PM
!

And as a digression....the Russian women's delegation will be interesting lol
Plenty of choice is better than none

J. Corwin
12-28-2003, 09:07 PM
Argentina:
Coria
Nalbandian (assuming he doesn't have to have surgery or something)
then a little trickier! Zabaleta? Chela? Calleri? I don't know!

Canas I say!

;)

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 09:08 PM
The US women will also be interesting, seeing as they make up half the top ten, and only 4 of them can go... and at the moment, the defending gold medalist isn't even in position to go.

TennisLurker
12-28-2003, 09:10 PM
I would send Coria, David , Calleri and Chela.

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 09:12 PM
My turn to speculate!

I agree with you on the US... it looks like Roddick, and Mardy for sure, and likely Dent and then GInepri.... but hopefully Blake gets his ass back in the top 50 and makes it interesting.

Argentina, injuries aside, it looks like Nalbandian and Coria, and then it gets interesting. I'll say Gaudio and Zabaleta... but you never know how that Canas comeback is going to go :p

For Spain... after Moya and Ferrero, their other top 50 players are Robredo, Lopez, Costa, Nadal, and... did I miss somebody? I don't know who to pick here. Lopez doesn't defend a lot at the beginning of the year... Costa did well in Miami and Roland Garros. Nadal doesn't have anything to worry about aside from challenger points falling off. I'm fairly sure that his rankings rise is going to continue... whether it will be enough by June is another thing... I imagine that Robredo will continue to float around the top 20, which should be enough, unless Lopez, Nadal, and Costa all join him :p

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 09:13 PM
I would send Coria, David , Calleri and Chela.
Calleri! I forgot about him. Put him in place of Gaudio ;)

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 09:15 PM
My turn to speculate!

I agree with you on the US... it looks like Roddick, and Mardy for sure, and likely Dent and then GInepri.... but hopefully Blake gets his ass back in the top 50 and makes it interesting.

Argentina, injuries aside, it looks like Nalbandian and Coria, and then it gets interesting. I'll say Gaudio and Zabaleta... but you never know how that Canas comeback is going to go :p

For Spain... after Moya and Ferrero, their other top 50 players are Robredo, Lopez, Costa, Nadal, and... did I miss somebody? I don't know who to pick here. Lopez doesn't defend a lot at the beginning of the year... Costa did well in Miami and Roland Garros. Nadal doesn't have anything to worry about aside from challenger points falling off. I'm fairly sure that his rankings rise is going to continue... whether it will be enough by June is another thing... I imagine that Robredo will continue to float around the top 20, which should be enough, unless Lopez, Nadal, and Costa all join him :p
Oh.,... I forgot about Mantilla. My bad.

Chloe le Bopper
12-28-2003, 09:16 PM
Um... I also forgot about David Sanchez.

Alright, I think that's all of them :p

J. Corwin
12-28-2003, 09:16 PM
.... but hopefully Blake gets his ass back in the top 50 and makes it interesting.

You almost made me thought that he really did fall out of the top 50. I had to go and check. I knew I wasn't that ignorant. ;)

TennisLurker
12-28-2003, 09:16 PM
Gaudio is not that good playing for Argentina in foreign countries.

I think David, Cañas, Coria and Chela are the 4 best argentineans on hardcourts,David and Juan Iignacio are better on hardcourts than clay.
If Cañas is fine, I would send him instead of Calleri.

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 09:17 PM
The US women will also be interesting, seeing as they make up half the top ten, and only 4 of them can go... and at the moment, the defending gold medalist isn't even in position to go.


yes that too... wow.. good point hmmm... interesting!

Kiara
12-28-2003, 09:21 PM
Let's speculate! Who will make teams Spain, USA, and Argentina? ;)


ooh fun

USA- Roddick,Fish,Dent,Blake
SPAIN- Ferrero, Moya, Costa, Nadal/Robredo
FRANCE- Grosjean,Clement, Escude and Santoro/Gasquet
ARGENTINA- Nalbandian and Coria, Canas and Calleri.
GERMANY- Schuttler,and Tommy Haas will go for sure if he's healthy. clue about the other 2 maybe Alexander Popp and ???
RUSSIA-Safin,Davydenko,Youzhny&Tursunov

TennisLurker
12-28-2003, 09:28 PM
Schuettler, Haas and Popp should go for sure, maybe Kiefer or that german guy who defeated Rios in nations cup.

Deboogle!.
12-28-2003, 09:29 PM
James really isn't that far back... I really hope he's figured out what went wrong this past year over the break so that he'll be back and finally get some good results!!

Shadow
12-28-2003, 09:37 PM
that was Thomas Behrend. He could possibly go. Lars Burgsmüller would be another option.
Haas, Schuettler and Kiefer will go for sure.

TennisLurker
12-28-2003, 09:42 PM
Schuettler, Haas, Popp and Burgsmuller would be my team.

Kiara
12-28-2003, 09:56 PM
thats it Lars Burgsmüller yeah those 4!

Kiara
12-28-2003, 10:04 PM
For Spain... after Moya and Ferrero, their other top 50 players are Robredo, Lopez, Costa, Nadal, and... did I miss somebody?

David Sanchez....???is he in the top 50?

Chloe le Bopper
12-29-2003, 04:48 AM
You almost made me thought that he really did fall out of the top 50. I had to go and check. I knew I wasn't that ignorant. ;)

You callin' me ignorant? *kick*

I actually thought he had fallen out - apparently I'm mistaken? I'm sure he fell out at some point during the year. Perhaps I have him confused with Dent. Entirly possible. They look alike and play similar games. Mixing them up would be totally understandable.

Chloe le Bopper
12-29-2003, 04:49 AM
David Sanchez....???is he in the top 50?
Number 50, to be exact. I wasn't sure, so I looked it up... lo and behold, there he was.

esther
12-29-2003, 07:37 AM
Whats happened with the whole players cant play unless they are with Adidas thing?

Chloe le Bopper
12-29-2003, 09:46 AM
That was just Kim, who was using it as an excuse not to play because she'd rather prepare for the USO and didn't want to come right out and say that.

At least, that was how I saw the situation ;)

J. Corwin
12-29-2003, 10:09 AM
You callin' me ignorant? *kick*

I actually thought he had fallen out - apparently I'm mistaken? I'm sure he fell out at some point during the year. Perhaps I have him confused with Dent. Entirly possible. They look alike and play similar games. Mixing them up would be totally understandable.

Nah, I was calling myself ignorant for not knowing any better. It's entirely forgivable for a mix-up though. His performances can lead one to think he really did drop that much in the rankings.

TheBoiledEgg
12-29-2003, 02:58 PM
Russia- Safin, Youzhny, Davydenko and Andreev (if Zhenya isnt planning a swansong ;) )

Spain- i wouldnt put it past "old fogie" Alex Corretja on a good clay season and get into selection (for sentiment he might get picked)

Ma. Estefania
12-29-2003, 03:17 PM
That was just Kim, who was using it as an excuse not to play because she'd rather prepare for the USO and didn't want to come right out and say that.

At least, that was how I saw the situation ;)

LOL ;) That was my point of view too......anyway it's her life....I hope Justine can make it, win the gold medal, and be all Belgium's pride. :angel:

Btw....has there been another problem like this with these sponsor stuff at ATP? I have heard of none this year so far.....I hope no one who should be at the Olympics, could be out for these "reasons". :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
12-29-2003, 04:07 PM
Btw....has there been another problem like this with these sponsor stuff at ATP? I have heard of none this year so far.....I hope no one who should be at the Olympics, could be out for these "reasons". :rolleyes:

Not that I've heard of - thankfully!!!

I'm not sure how common it is for entire country Olympic Committees to be sponsored. I know it was a problem at some point for the US Basketball team - and the players involved just covered up the logos on their USA uniforms but they all still played (even Michael jordan!) but that was just one team, I'd guess it's only the smaller countries that need their entire national team to be sponsored to be able to afford to go to the games.

Chloe le Bopper
12-30-2003, 01:24 AM
Spain- i wouldnt put it past "old fogie" Alex Corretja on a good clay season and get into selection (for sentiment he might get picked)

I can see them taking Alex for doubles, but if he doesn't get him back into the top 50 and there are more than 4 Spaniards ahead of him in the rankings, I was under the impression that they couldn't "pick" him... does it not go by the rankings? That's what it says, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding something... or underestimating the power of the national federations.

Deboogle!.
12-30-2003, 01:30 AM
that's how I interpreted it too, Becca

claudine140
12-30-2003, 06:51 AM
Assuming that they continue to be the top 2 Spainish tennis players, then yes. We won't know for sure until the ranking the olympics use come out and that isn't until 14 June 2004.
But if Ferrero or Moya have a bad year and don't defend their points and drop in the rankings then it could be someone else from Spain that would go.
Sorry claudine140, but your just going to have to sit and wait and hope that whomever you want to go has a good year. :)

He has many points to defend at the beginning of the year, final in miami... but i have good feelings about him this year; You'll see, carlos will go to the olympics

Chloe le Bopper
12-30-2003, 07:42 AM
He has many points to defend at the beginning of the year, final in miami... but i have good feelings about him this year; You'll see, carlos will go to the olympics
I wouldn't really say that he has a lot of points to defend at the start of the year.... at least, not if we're considering Australia, where due to Fishy circumstances last season, he's defending absolutely nothing of note.

(I apologize... the Mardy puns have to go, I know..)

Deboogle!.
12-30-2003, 01:45 PM
(I apologize... the Mardy puns have to go, I know..)

Well at least you're not the only one that does it :p

TheBoiledEgg
12-30-2003, 06:09 PM
Well at least you're not the only one that does it :p
true, its a classic tennis name with a whole bag NET full of puns ;)

Deboogle!.
12-30-2003, 06:25 PM
true, its a classic tennis name with a whole bag NET full of puns ;)

lol good one....

this is from Jon Wertheim's Baggie awards a few weeks ago:

Most Improved, men: Mardy Fish. The delight of pun-lovers everywhere, Fish, 21, is the reel thing. He scaled his ranking from No. 81 to No. 20 this year, filleting players including Carlos Moya, Rainer Schuettler and David Nalbandian. (OK we'll stop now.)

claudine140
12-31-2003, 07:58 AM
I wouldn't really say that he has a lot of points to defend at the start of the year.... at least, not if we're considering Australia, where due to Fishy circumstances last season, he's defending absolutely nothing of note.

(I apologize... the Mardy puns have to go, I know..)

I did not think on australian open but on miami, he reached the final there!

Chloe le Bopper
12-31-2003, 07:59 AM
Uh, yes. I got that part.