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Players' Retirement

Devotee
12-17-2003, 04:55 AM
After you vote, explain why.

Action Jackson
12-17-2003, 05:00 AM
In what context? Are you saying which players should retire?

Devotee
12-17-2003, 05:04 AM
In what context? Are you saying which players should retire?


Just pick who you personally will miss, whether because of emotional
attachment, your enjoyment of his game, etc.


And people, while you're explaining, it would be fun to know who you'll
miss THE LEAST & why.

MisterQ
12-17-2003, 05:12 AM
No surprise, I will miss Agassi the most. Hard to imagine the game without him actually. :sad:

But there are many excellent young players, and the game will still be exciting for me, even with Andre gone. :)

Deboogle!.
12-17-2003, 05:18 AM
Pete......my all-time favorite, I could (and did!) watch him play for hours. and I'm one of the few who liked his personality.

Action Jackson
12-17-2003, 05:34 AM
Sorry Devotee your poll didn't show up when I clicked on this message the first time.

This one was hard the actual one I would miss the most was Jeff Tarango, but I voted for Magnus Larsson.

Big Larsson well he played a game that wasn't all power, he used a lot of angles as well. He used to play very well against the top players, he beat Sampras 3 times in a row in 1997. He enjoyed the party life too much and wasn't keen on training, but he was fun to watch. Alami, Krajicek and Rios will be also missed.

As for the least it would be Chang. Why well he was never a favourite of mine, unfortunately for him he was Mr Second good but not good enough (89 FO exception)

The whole religious thing was over the top. For sure it's fine to have strong religious beliefs, but not to the point that we would hear about them constantly, and for one I won't miss the excessive religious talk.

Devotee
12-17-2003, 05:38 AM
I got carried away with the following explanation of my vote but
I just couldn't help myself.

Goran, oh Goran, how do I love you?
Let me count the ways!

Whether it's your racket smashing,
your spectacular serve and over-all game,
your drop-dead gorgeous looks and intense sensuality,
your evil glances into the audience during matches,
your multiple personalities (all of them sensational),
your provocative news conferences,
your struggles to win Wimbledon,
your endurance of painful injuries and surgeries,
your ability to be so so funny,
your commitment to your charities,
your patriotism to your country,
you're not just another player who's
ultra-talented, high in the rankings and good for
the sport of tennis --

you are some man and you're a god in my eyes!

Action Jackson
12-17-2003, 05:42 AM
Goran was definitely unique, then again his comments about Woodforde's backhand and if his kid had played a backhand like that, were very funny and cheers to his political incorrectness.

Devotee
12-17-2003, 06:04 AM
Most people will be surprised to know that the player
I'll miss the least is Pete Sampras.
I don't want to offend his fans, so I'll try to word
this as politely as I can.
His perceived position (by some fans) as the greatest
player of all time disregarded his incomplete game.
He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.
He had a dull personality, although a nice one.
His serve, serve, serve got on my nerves.
Now many other players have the chance to win tournaments
or go far in the draw, since Pete's serve won't be in their
way to completely shut down their games.
This will make the sport of tennis much more interesting
for fans worldwide.

MisterQ
12-17-2003, 06:14 AM
The whole religious thing was over the top. For sure it's fine to have strong religious beliefs, but not to the point that we would hear about them constantly, and for one I won't miss the excessive religious talk.

Agreed. I admired Chang's tenacity as a player, but I never enjoyed hearing all the religious talk either.

MisterQ
12-17-2003, 06:19 AM
Most people will be surprised to know that the player
I'll miss the least is Pete Sampras.
I don't want to offend his fans, so I'll try to word
this as politely as I can.
His perceived position (by some fans) as the greatest
player of all time disregarded his incomplete game.
He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.
He had a dull personality, although a nice one.
His serve, serve, serve got on my nerves.
Now many other players have the chance to win tournaments
or go far in the draw, since Pete's serve won't be in their
way to completely shut down their games.
This will make the sport of tennis much more interesting
for fans worldwide.

I certainly won't miss his shut-downs of Andre, that's for sure! As Andre humorously said, when asked about Pete's USO2003 retirement ceremony: I wish it had happened last year! LOL!

But I will miss Sampras in general. It's rare that you get to watch genius in action. Only a select few players really bring that to the table. Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Federer...

coolman
12-17-2003, 06:58 AM
The whole religious thing was over the top. For sure it's fine to have strong religious beliefs, but not to the point that we would hear about them constantly, and for one I won't miss the excessive religious talk.

i'm sorry, but i think he is just a typical devoted Christian, he knows that he will be offending people when he thanks God in his interviews, but i believe that he is sincerely grateful for all he has accomplised. But other than that, i did see him having those so called "excessive religious talk" like The End is Near or anything like that did he? Just find it ironic that many people actually enjoy Patrick's trash talking yet feels disgusted with Chang's Christianity belief, oh well, that's life:) But Michael will one i miss the most since he was really close to #1.

WyverN
12-17-2003, 07:10 AM
His perceived position (by some fans) as the greatest
player of all time disregarded his incomplete game.


By some fans? He will be perceived as the greatest by any serious fan of tennis. (not many people on this forum)


He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.

He was still one of the top 10 players of his generation on clay. Not to bad for a worst surface.



His serve, serve, serve got on my nerves.
Now many other players have the chance to win tournaments
or go far in the draw, since Pete's serve won't be in their
way to completely shut down their games.
This will make the sport of tennis much more interesting
for fans worldwide.

Pete's game was far more then serve. Far more. To say he shut down players with just his serve is stupid.

Jazzy
12-17-2003, 07:53 AM
i gotta say 1 of my fav & exciting player on the court in his tome, Pete Sampras!!!!!!!!

Action Jackson
12-17-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Devotee
He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.

I am not going to miss Sampras too much, yes it was bad that he never made a final at RG, but he wasn't a total loser on clay. The only weakness he had was his high backhand, which got shown up on clay but everything else about his game was outstanding, the serve, volleys, running forehand, overheads, court movement was very good as well. Sure the serve was an important factor, but it wasn't the only factor to his greatness.

Coolman, I didn't question Chang's sincerity about his beliefs, but there is a time and place for it. There have been a few players with strong Christian beliefs Enqvist, Medvedev, Wheaton but these views weren't broadcast incessantly as they were concerning Chang.

WyverN
12-17-2003, 09:33 AM
As I have already stated Sampras is so much more then serve. Let's not forget that at his peak Sampras would smack Agassi off court from the baseline.

The biggest problem for Sampras on clay was that he modelled his game for success on grass/hard courts.

I have no doubt Pete had the talent to wiin a couple of FO's but lack of clay practice and a reluctance to change his game play on clay all gave the position enough of an edge to make Pete mortal on clay.

Action Jackson
12-17-2003, 10:36 AM
He couldn't find the balance to be consistently successful on clay. He whined too much about the surface instead of using his firepower in an intelligent manner.

Definitely could have serve and volleyed more than he did, and also fitness was more of a problem than on the faster surfaces, he wasn't a dud on clay but to most observers his achievements elsewhere outweigh his relative poor clay record and modest DC record.

Yes, he will be missed by plenty of fans worldwide, and remembered as one of the greatest ever players, but tennis will continue on without him as new players try to emulate some of his achievements.

joske
12-17-2003, 10:53 AM
Hmmmmm I'm not gonna vote on this poll simply bc I'm not really gonna miss any of them :o Well I haven't been following tennis for that long, and I've only seen like 5 of 'em play..Out with the old, in with the new :p But yeah, it'll be a loss for tennis in general when guys like Sampras or Agassi retire, I acknowledge that *yes people, I DO have some common sense in that itty bitty head of mine LOL*

:rolleyes: hmmmmm why did I even bother posting here :confused: ;)

Crazy_Fool
12-17-2003, 03:52 PM
Am i missing something here? Why u putting Agassi on the poll, has even even mentioned he's retiring. Also who is Alami? Anyways i miss Rafter, dunno if he's on the poll but def my all-time fav.

Aurora
12-17-2003, 03:57 PM
I really miss Rafter, it was a joy to see him play, and definitely something different between everything else. And yes, very emotionally attached!

Crazy_Fool
12-17-2003, 04:01 PM
Yes so was i! I still wish to this day he won Wimbeldon 01.

Aurora
12-17-2003, 04:06 PM
* sigh ... Wimby '01 ... sigh

jtipson
12-17-2003, 04:23 PM
oh no, Wimbledon 01 should have been Henman's ;-)

but he'll probably get another chance....

Snoopy_Girl
12-17-2003, 04:32 PM
I really didn't know who to cheer for at the Wimbledon '01 final. But Gorans reaction to his win was totally sweet :clap2:, he deserved to win -- although I would have said the same if Rafter would have won -- I guess I (would) miss both of them the most.
I don't really miss Sampras (I know: shame on me), he was just the silent one, not a player I was a fan of.

Crazy_Fool
12-17-2003, 04:37 PM
I dont miss Sampras either. I always liked him, but just dont miss him.

Aurora
12-17-2003, 04:42 PM
Same here. Well, not surprising with someone who's done so much and also over and over and over and over again...

Crazy_Fool
12-17-2003, 04:44 PM
Yep. Thats probably it. Having said that i bet i'll miss agassi when he retires.

jtipson
12-17-2003, 04:48 PM
Mmm, I'll miss AA too. He's probably got a little while yet, unless the guys above him start thrashing him on a regular basis.

And I'd love to see Goran at Wimbledon one more time before he retires properly.

Crazy_Fool
12-17-2003, 04:50 PM
I dont think they'll start thrashing him and i'm sure he'll know when to retire.

As for Ivo well i dont know whether his back will hold up.

Marine
12-17-2003, 10:05 PM
Pete......my all-time favorite, I could (and did!) watch him play for hours. and I'm one of the few who liked his personality.

I agree 200% with you ! :worship:
He is my all-time favorite, but hopefully, I'm less fan than some years ago, otherwise I would had been very very very sad of his retirement !
I was not "ready" 2 years ago, but now it's OK, I accept the fact I won't see him playing anymore...that's life :awww:

Lee
12-17-2003, 11:52 PM
Pete is the player I missed most but like Marine, I am ready for his retirement, only not because I'm a 'less' fan than a few years ago. Seeing his achievement in Wimbleton and winning his final USO, I feel there is nothing for him to future to prove himself (although lots of his non-fans will dump RG on him).

Lee
12-17-2003, 11:54 PM
I am not going to miss Sampras too much, yes it was bad that he never made a final at RG, but he wasn't a total loser on clay. The only weakness he had was his high backhand, which got shown up on clay but everything else about his game was outstanding, the serve, volleys, running forehand, overheads, court movement was very good as well. Sure the serve was an important factor, but it wasn't the only factor to his greatness.



Very well said :worship:

tangerine_dream
12-18-2003, 06:10 PM
I certainly won't miss his shut-downs of Andre, that's for sure! As Andre humorously said, when asked about Pete's USO2003 retirement ceremony: I wish it had happened last year! LOL!

:lol: LOL. Andre rules.

I like Pete too, but I don't miss him. He was an awesome player but he was, IMO, dreadfully dull to watch. :sad: Roger Federer is everything I had always wished Pete would be.

As for when Andre :worship: the Great retires, oh god I don't even want to go there. I'm not ready yet! HE'S not ready yet. Andre's the one who got me into tennis in the first place. There are many new players I admire and like to watch but Andre was a tour de force on the court, and still is. I can't imagine tennis without him. Nobody has his brand of talent or his flair.

Now I'm getting all misty-eyed at the thought of him retiring. I can't take it. Waaaa! :sobbing:

TennisLurker
12-18-2003, 07:09 PM
Nobody has his brand of talent or his flair.

Now I'm getting all misty-eyed at the thought of him retiring. I can't take it. Waaaa! :sobbing:

Dont worry, Marcelo Rios will be back in Australia and he has more flair and talent than Agassi. ;)


the 1998 Lipton Final :lick:

MisterQ
12-18-2003, 08:51 PM
Dont worry, Marcelo Rios will be back in Australia and he has more flair and talent than Agassi. ;)


the 1998 Lipton Final :lick:

boo!

I don't agree, although I do believe Rios is a genius. But so is Agassi!

It would be nice if BOTH of these players stayed in the game a while longer.

TennisLurker
12-18-2003, 09:09 PM
I dont want Agassi or Rios to win Australia, but I think that a Marcelo Rios vs Agassi final could give us the best tennis in the whole world.

MisterQ
12-18-2003, 09:13 PM
I dont want Agassi or Rios to win Australia, but I think that a Marcelo Rios vs Agassi final could give us the best tennis in the whole world.

Yes, no doubt, that would be INCREDIBLE!!! :)

Ma. Estefania
12-19-2003, 12:14 AM
I think that Yevgueny.....no matter what he always sort of spiced up things a bit, not in the last 2-3 years, but I always admired him, he never was 1 of my faves, but I'll definitely miss him.....

croat123
12-19-2003, 01:47 AM
goran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! my all-time favorite. i don't think another player will ever be able to replace him................

Vass
12-30-2003, 07:54 AM
Whatever you guys say Samprass will be missed greatly, including by me. Agassi, on the other hand, is someone who get outta here right and not be missed by me all.

Goran and Yevgeny are also great guys.

Kristen
12-30-2003, 08:07 AM
Magnus...because I'm biased, and he's the 'big man' you know :( Who do i blame now when Jonas loses a doubles match in Davis Cup!

Chloe le Bopper
12-30-2003, 08:39 AM
I said Agassi. I'm not exactly a fan, but he's brought so much to the sport that his retirement will definately leave a hole. Thankfully, some of the young guys are stepping up lately which will make the blow of his retirement on the tennis community a little less violent ;) But yes, the sport will go on without him :p

maratski
12-30-2003, 09:55 AM
I'll miss Yev, Goran and Richard :sad:

Richard's goodbye speach was very moving :sad:

I won't miss Agassi though ;)
I don't miss chang ;)
I've never been a fan of Sampras, but I do have a lot of respect for him and his achievements. Hell, I had tears in my eyes when he had his goodbye ceremony :o

maratski
12-30-2003, 10:00 AM
Here's a link to Alami's profile
http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=alami

How can you not know him? ;)

Fedex
12-30-2003, 10:30 AM
I will definitly miss Sampras the most :sad: :sad: :sad: Just glad he ended his career on a high note! When Agassi retires i will find that difficult to deal with! Sampras & Agassi were my favorite all-time players! I just hope when Andre does retire he does it like Pete did it! When a Grand Slam, preferably the US Open where i could be there cheering him on!

*Ljubica*
12-30-2003, 05:35 PM
I'll miss Yev, Goran and Richard :sad:

Richard's goodbye speach was very moving :sad:

I won't miss Agassi though ;)
I don't miss chang ;)
I've never been a fan of Sampras, but I do have a lot of respect for him and his achievements. Hell, I had tears in my eyes when he had his goodbye ceremony :o


Just wanted to say I agree with every word you said Ilhame - find it really hard to think about tennis without Zhenya and Goran, - and yes, Richard's farewell speech was sad - such a shame that injuries stoped him achieving as much as he could have done. And I won't miss Agassi either - same as I don't miss the other two, although Sampras WAS a man to be respected - no one can denigrate his achievements.

Crazy_Fool
12-30-2003, 06:27 PM
Well RAfter got me into tennis and i miss him badly. I cant get into anyone like i did with him. He even made me cry! 2001 Wimbeldon Final! Only time i ever cried at a tennis match.

Agassi will be a big blow when he retires, he didnt get me into tennis but its far to say he got me hooked on it. I'm not looking forward to him retiring.

*Ljubica*
12-30-2003, 08:55 PM
Well RAfter got me into tennis and i miss him badly. I cant get into anyone like i did with him. He even made me cry! 2001 Wimbeldon Final! Only time i ever cried at a tennis match.

Agassi will be a big blow when he retires, he didnt get me into tennis but its far to say he got me hooked on it. I'm not looking forward to him retiring.

I agree the 2001 Wimbledon Final was fantastic - I queued up all night to be there when I realised they were playing it on the Monday and tickets were available on the door :) Mind you, I didn't cry because I was supporting Goran - sorry!! Mind you, Rafter's coming back to play doubles in Australia next season isn't he? I think that's great - maybe you'll be able to see him there.

trixy
12-31-2003, 03:09 AM
I voted 4 Goran because i just love him (all seven of him or how ever many they are) and what he brings to court and to his tennis every1 time he plays and i really hope he can overcome the injuries he has now and come back.

guganumberone
01-01-2004, 09:04 PM
im gonna miss pete the most....14 slams is nothing to sneeze at. I think his retirement is the end of an era. As for my least missed.. that would be rios. He never did anything important that jumped out at me. did he ever even win a slam?

Tennis Fool
01-01-2004, 09:20 PM
First poster member I've seen of the new year. Welcome :D

Shadow
01-01-2004, 09:25 PM
PAT AND GORAN :sad:

Devotee
06-21-2004, 05:03 AM
:tennis:

gina_
06-21-2004, 07:06 AM
I'll miss Andre Agassi. I mean we've all seen him for so long now...crazy long hairdo to baldie...and well, it's all nostalgia.

CooCooCachoo
06-21-2004, 08:15 AM
Nathalie Tauziat :sad: She should come back.
Jan Siemerink too, and Pat Rafter and Miriam Oremans.

You can guess I like serve & volley, right ;)

WaynesWorld
06-22-2004, 09:30 PM
Though he´s not in the list, I will definetely miss Wayne Ferreira the most when he retires in September :sad: :sad: He was my Nr. 1 favorite since Stefan Edberg retired in 1996 and I don´t wanna think about the fact that he won´t be on the tour anymore next year...

YoursTruly
06-22-2004, 09:33 PM
I didn't know about Wayne's plan!!! This would be a great loss. I really miss Patrick Rafter, his game and the way he played it was so perfect. He stood out with his invinsible serve/volley. Not only that but he also had great natural appeal topped off with a generous and kind personality. I'll also miss Andre of course. Hard to believe he will retire. For the WTA, I really miss Steffi. She was too good in tennis and outside of the game.

alfonsojose
06-23-2004, 05:11 AM
It's hard for me to say this but i'll miss Homo Agassi. And Kafelnikov .. :crying2:

Denise
06-23-2004, 05:41 AM
I'll miss Andre 'cause I always appreciate his matches. Well, I already miss Pete... it was great the matches against marat hehe. I miss Pat as well :sad: