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C.S.I. Miami Wednesday Shootout (R1)

TwistyServe
03-21-2006, 07:27 PM
Leans in bold, not necessarily my plays! Post yours...

Wednesday:
G. Simon 2.100 F. Serra 1.833
X. Malisse 1.262 N. Lapentti 4.510
N. Massu 1.364 R. Sluiter 3.550
T. Zib 2.670 J. Acasuso 1.565
J. Bjorkman 1.781 R. Vik 2.180
K. Carlsen 1.935 C. Saulnier 1.971
C. Rochus 1.885 W. Moodie 2.03
F. Santoro 1.833 I. Karlovic 2.100
A. Murray 1.680 S. Wawrinka 2.370
J. Monaco 2.700 A. Calleri 1.556
C. Moya 1.346 V. Hanescu 3.690

Thursday:
L. Horna 2.360 F. Mayer 1.685
M. Philippoussis 2.210 D. Sanguinetti 1.763
G. Rusedski 2.710 M. Youzhny 1.552
K. Vliegen 1.394 B. Pashanski 3.340
A. Pavel 1.820 A. Martin 2.120
A. Seppi 2.020 V. Spadea 1.893
M. Safin 1.485 T. Henman 2.860
G. Muller 2.250 M. Mirnyi 1.741
P-H. Mathieu 1.735 N. Djokovic 2.260

Jaap
03-21-2006, 08:43 PM
Thinking about Muller to beat Mirnyi. Mirnyi has been pretty poor this season whereas Muller has been solid. I think Muller's game is quite suited to play against big servers. I don't think the Miami surface is that quick if last season is anything to go by where the likes of Ferrer and Hrbatty got far and Nadal should have won it.

Also Acacuso against Zib and Calleri against Monaco.

bad gambler
03-21-2006, 09:58 PM
C. Berlocq _vs_ D. Young

How can one take this tournament seriously if you have this as a round 1 matchup in a masters tournament? :retard:

TwistyServe
03-21-2006, 10:04 PM
C. Berlocq _vs_ D. Young

How can one take this tournament seriously if you have this as a round 1 matchup in a masters tournament? :retard:

One of them will get a big big win! And at a TMS too!

bad gambler
03-21-2006, 10:07 PM
The bookies as we speak are probably :help: when trying to price this match :lol:

Horatio Caine
03-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Thinking about Muller to beat Mirnyi. Mirnyi has been pretty poor this season whereas Muller has been solid. I think Muller's game is quite suited to play against big servers. I don't think the Miami surface is that quick if last season is anything to go by where the likes of Ferrer and Hrbatty got far and Nadal should have won it.

Also Acacuso against Zib and Calleri against Monaco.

I agree with Muller there mate - did some number crunching and Mirnyi isn't impressive vs lefties.

Horatio Caine
03-21-2006, 10:14 PM
I don't like many R1 match-ups at all. Siding with Greg to take out Youzhny purely on leftie stat and the fact that Youzhny has a really :retard:ed AMS Miami record

Horatio Caine
03-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Mayer over Horna as a lean...but I wouldn't play it

Anders
03-21-2006, 10:56 PM
All depends on price of course, but may see some value in:

Wawrinka
Seppi
Santoro
Muller (popular choice it seems)
Vliegen
Mayer

still hoping prices may surprise on other leans...

YTD: 76-83 +37.40 units

Corey Feldman
03-22-2006, 12:11 AM
Love 'smoking Joe' chucho @1.5 over Zib (baffled that its as much as this)
Zib is 0-7 this year , winning all of 1 set in that time .... following on from losing last 9 matches of 2005 (winning only 2 sets in those as well), so thats 0-16 ATP matches for the czech since New Haven 2005.

add this with the key biscane courts always being quite slow for HC standard, chucho's good form this year and always good support from latin community at this tournament... Jose all the way.

Corey Feldman
03-22-2006, 12:14 AM
also liked Massu, Youzhny, Vliegen, Moodie (@2.10 over C.Rochus ), Calleri.

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 12:59 AM
Hey Mikey,

Yeah there was something about the Acasuso match that I didn't like, when I first saw it. On looking into it, I found that Zib has had his leg over Acasuso before - granted it was on grass last year (and Acasuso is 0/7 on grass :tape: ). Also, this is Zib's most favourable surface, and whilst the tourney is pro Latin America, Acasuso has never impressed there. He has also lost to such less imposing players as Christophe Rochus...and of course Chucho isn't hot on hardcourts really.

Whilst I'd be pulling for Chucho, I don't think it is all that safe :shrug:

Sluiter is quite dangerous man and Massu is apparently struggling for confidence on hardcourts or something. I definitely don't think he is worth 1.25 odds

Moodie is the lesser of 2 evils vs Rochus - Rochus is shocking on hardcourts going 2/8 recently and only beating Acasuso and Martin. But Moodie isn't in any good form so I don't know whether to trust him...and the court is apparently playing quite slow. That said, it seems that IW didn't play too fast and Bjorkman too out Rochus so... :shrug:

I like Vliegen but he is only 1.28 - have to double with something.

Corey Feldman
03-22-2006, 01:12 AM
the HC factor will suit Jose's big serves, he should just be too good for zib right now on any surface..
Zibby's is after Rusedski's record of consec. 1st round defeats (21 was it?? :o )... and i think he'll get it :yeah:

even tho chucho doesnt have a great HC record anywhere, cept maybe cincinnati QFS's last year, i like that he's won 1st rounders in the last few Miami's ... and other 1st round defeats when his ranking was low (perhaps qualied a few times?)
i still feel its a good chance/match for the big argie bargy..
Gl me!

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 01:16 AM
the HC factor will suit Jose's big serves, he should just be too good for zib right now on any surface..
Zibby's is after Rusedski's record of consec. 1st round defeats (21 was it?? :o )... and i think he'll get it :yeah:

even tho chucho doesnt have a great HC record anywhere, cept maybe cincinnati QFS's last year, i like that he's won 1st rounders in the last few Miami's ... and other 1st round defeats when his ranking was low (perhaps qualied a few times?)
i still feel its a good chance/match for the big argie bargy..
Gl me!

Yeah I agree I like his R1 wins...but something tells me that Zib could be a problem though. I'll probably take it - maybe throw in Vliegen as well, although that could be too greedy :p

Good luck champ :yeah:

Corey Feldman
03-22-2006, 01:33 AM
cheers Judge ;)
think an easy double coulda been Vliegen X Massu if i wasnt commiting myself to chucho..

waddya think of Safin 0.44 v Henman 1.62 match on Thu?

for once i like Henman's chances :scared: (off course this means 110% he gets beat now)

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 01:38 AM
cheers Judge ;)
think an easy double coulda been Vliegen X Massu if i wasnt commiting myself to chucho..

waddya think of Safin 0.44 v Henman 1.62 match on Thu?

for once i like Henman's chances :scared: (off course this means 110% he gets beat now)

I really don't buy Massu mate...especially at odds of 1.25 :eek: Sluiter is dangerous

I was surprised Henman was that long to be honest - I was expecting more 2.25. If I had spare cash I would definitely put a little on him at that price. He is a good match for Safin unfortunately, but the Russian is definitely not 100%...maybe still struggling with injury after that Nieminen collapse.


I'm looking at doing Vliegen x Acasuso @ 1.92

I have leans for other matches but the R1 draw isn't all that good imo. Those two are the ones that stick out more. I can't believe Zib lost to De Voest last week :tape: ...and Pasha hasn't beaten anyone decent on hardcourts at all...probably booked his flight to the European clay for next week :lol:

Anders
03-22-2006, 02:36 AM
YTD: 76-83 +37.40 units

Miami

Santoro $1.84 o Karlovic
Muller $2.35 o Mirnyi
Lapentti $4.00 o Malisse
Sluiter $3.21 o Massu
Mayer $1.73 o Horna
Wawrinka $2.35 o Murray
Seppi $2.10 o Spadea

all for 1 unit

GL as always

dbnumberone
03-22-2006, 05:31 AM
bet to win a unit on X - X hasn't lost for me all year, who'da thunk it - lapentti's days are behind him
&
bet to win a unit on *the dog* MOODIE - he'll take down twerpII - rochus is way overpriced still b/c of his lucky draw last month...

like anders said, gl as always

TwistyServe
03-22-2006, 06:04 AM
Just took

Acasuso over Zib @1.58

I feel that Acasuso is much better player than Zib at the moment, and Zib looks like he prefers the indoor courts and faster surfaces. The courts of Miami are known to be very slow and have had great results for the likes of Coria and Nadal (pre-breakout).. this should be Acasuso's match; hope he shows up firing!

Breaker
03-22-2006, 07:13 AM
The courts of Miami are known to be very slow and have had great results for the likes of Coria and Nadal (pre-breakout).. this should be Acasuso's match; hope he shows up firing!

The courtspeed of the Miami surface is a bit faster than the plexipave at Indian Wells (although still rated medium-slow in comparison to other outdoor hc's). However, with the temperatures set to be relatively high serve volleyers shouldn't have any issues with the speed, nor should claycourters, who will love the high bouncing nature of the surface.

bad gambler
03-22-2006, 11:54 AM
Llodra to beat Dlouhy - $1.85

good luck

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 11:58 AM
The courtspeed of the Miami surface is a bit faster than the plexipave at Indian Wells (although still rated medium-slow in comparison to other outdoor hc's). However, with the temperatures set to be relatively high serve volleyers shouldn't have any issues with the speed, nor should claycourters, who will love the high bouncing nature of the surface.

Had problems accessing the site! :o

Thanks for that Benny - really useful info :yeah:

In that case, Kim over Melzer looks tasty @ 1.83. Reasons - Melzer is severe slump on hardcourts - 2/8; severe slump in AMS - 1/9; not so good in USA; Kim has recent 8/2 vs lefties; Melzer hates serve-volley; Kim impressed in qualifying.

Agree with Prabu - Llodra looks good but I'm not confident enough in him yet as he is only just returning.

Fish over Hernych could be good @ 1.53 as well - Hernych not great of late despite qualifying, and he isn't hot vs serve-volleyers.

Dollars & Cents
03-22-2006, 12:33 PM
Acasuso + Calleri @ 2.25 (William Hill)
Argentine double based on the weaknesses of the opponents. Calleri is the riskier element but I'd be VERY surprised with a Monaco win.

Santoro(1.88) v Karlovic @ Centrebet
I like Santoro's price being on the rise again and it's now time to start taking him. He should have the experience and craft not to get frustrated if Ivo is having one of his better service days and hopefully be able to hold easily and capitalise on those small opportunities if they appear.

Good luck :yeah:

harvey
03-22-2006, 12:44 PM
i like fish, bogo, kim, serra, moya, bjorkman, calleri
not checked the odds yet

Jaap
03-22-2006, 01:47 PM
Carlsen x Santoro x Kim.

Also done a mixture of tommorrow and todays - Muller x Acasuso x Pavel

Good luck.

betowiec
03-22-2006, 02:32 PM
taking carlsen for $175 at 1.952 in the early match

skel1983
03-22-2006, 02:42 PM
Some good value in these first rounds, im taking:

BIG!!! Kim over Melzer

BIG!! Muller over Mirnyi

Medium: Goldstein over Gimelstob

Small: Santoro over Karlovic.

But Kim is a must very confident on this one.

Mistaflava
03-22-2006, 02:49 PM
Round 1: Wednesday, March 22, 2006



Cyril Saulnier -105 over Kenneth Carlsen ($1050 to win $1000)

I know this match starts in about 30 minutes but I just dropped my wager at Pinnacle and it's time to make some money. First of all. Cyril Saulnier is not that bad against lefties in his career and he has not had any significant problems with Left-Handed players so that obstacle is out of the way. Saulnier has enjoyed success in Miami in the past, making it out of the first round three time. In fact, Cyril Saulnier is 3-1 lifetime in TMS Miami first round matches while Kenneth Carlsen is 0-3 lifetime in first round matches at this tournament. All three of his first round losses have come against opponents ranked 70 or higher at the time and losing to Saulnier would be no different. The frenchman has been very good in Miami first round matches, beating Thomas Johansson, Ivan Ljubicic and Brian Baker over the times he has played here. I trust Saulnier a lot more at the TMS level than I do a journeyman like Kenneth Carlsen because although Saulnier is getting old, so is his counterprt Carlsen and Saulnier has the more experienced game at the TMS level. What I really like about Saulnier is that he is a big time fighter and he almost never gives up. That was evident last week and the week before when he took both Gaudio and Tursunov to three sets before losing. Carlsen on the other hand is coming off a first round loss GG Lopez in a challenger event and what is really funny is that he has never won a single set in Miami while Saulnier almost always wins a set even when he loses. This is going to be a very tough match for both players but even though Carlsen has been playing some decent tennis on the hardcourts this season, Saulnier will be too much for him and I really like the experience Cyril brings to this match. Neither player is good in hard court tiebreaks so the TB's could really be a crapshoot when it comes down to it. Both players have only two TMS wins over the last 12 months but Saulnier has a better pedigree of opponents and there is no doubt in my mind that he can get rid of Mr. Carlsen in two sets if he wants to. Saulnier has won 53% of his matches on North American soil while Carlsen has won only 47% of his matches in North America and has actually lost more than he has won. Saulnier also has the much better lifetime record on the hardcourts. When it comes down to two shit players playing against each other, experience will takeover and Saulnier should walk all over Carlsen in this match at great odds. Give me the french boy for some big money this morning.



more to come...

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 03:29 PM
The bookies as we speak are probably :help: when trying to price this match :lol:

The guy trying to price this match for Willhill found the stress too much to cope with...not offered. :tape:

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 03:32 PM
I see I didn't post my definite play...how rude of me :lol:

Acasuso x Vliegen @ 1.92 - medium stake

Analysis: http://www.triplethreatsports777.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17454#post17454

Good luck! :yeah:

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 03:39 PM
...oh and Goldstein seems a good price against Gimelstob @ 1.83.

I seem to remember Goldie giving serve-volleyers a headache in the past...and he is in good form right now too. Might be one to consider :shrug:

theonekyuuto
03-22-2006, 03:47 PM
1050 real USD on Saulner? oh u r crazy... there's many other ways to get a 1 to 1 payout... and saulner is not in good shape recently... man

Mistaflava
03-22-2006, 04:06 PM
Round 1: Wednesday, March 22, 2006



Jonas Bjorkman -132 over Robin Vik ($660 to win $500)

This match starts a little bit later today so unlike my last pick, you have more than 25 minutes to place your wager at Pinnacle. I know the line has been moving in the confident direction which makes me feel a whole lot better because we all know how screwed up some line movements can be and I am not interested in picking a match where something fishy is going on. Anyways...Jonas Bjorkman is not young but he is wise and he makes very good decisions when the tough gets going. Bjorkman kicked off the year with an 0-5 record in matches and it looked like he needed to retire as of right now. However, he beat Gael Monfils in Las Vegas in Round 1 and then went to Indian Wells and managed to beat Christophe Rochus before bowing out against Marco Baghdatis. Here is what I really like about Bjorkman. The Swede is 5-1 lifetime in opening matches at TMS Miami with his only loss coming back in 2000 in his first ever TMS Miami. Since that day, he has beat Hyung-Taik Lee, Nicolas Kiefer, Andre Sa, Taylor Dent and Max Mirnyi in opening round matches at this tournament. Although he doesn't usually make it far in this tournament, he does almost always win his first match and I am confident he can do the same here. Robin Vik has never played at TMS Miami and the big show could too overwhelming for the young Czech. Vik is not playing good tennis this year and is coming off a pathetic first round loss in a Challenger to some guy ranked #130 in the world. Not good. Vik is now 2-8 in his last 10 matches overall and his only wins have come against Berdych and Tipsarevic in Dubai. Vik has only ever played in one TMS series tournament and he lost his first round match to Jan Hernych in Indian Wells. Compared to Bjorkman's 73 career TMS series matches, Vik is a young lad with too much to learn at this point and if Bjorkman plays a solid game, he should have no problems whatsoever disposing of Vik. Bjorkman has a lifetime winning record on North American soil while Vik is winning only 43% of his matches played in North America. This should be a very interesting match to watch because it's like student versus mentor. Give me Bjorkman to win this thing in three sets.



more to come....

skel1983
03-22-2006, 04:10 PM
1050 real USD on Saulner? oh u r crazy... there's many other ways to get a 1 to 1 payout... and saulner is not in good shape recently... man


Well doesn't look bad to me 6-3 Saulnier first set.

skel1983
03-22-2006, 04:51 PM
Well doesn't look bad to me 6-3 Saulnier first set.

I spoke to soon the kiss of death, since i posted that score Carlsen has won 6 games on the bounce and looks to be heading for the next round.

i2ooney
03-22-2006, 04:53 PM
T Zib V J Acasuso J Acasuso to Win @ 1.50 Open
F Santoro V I Karlovic F Santoro to Win @ 1.83 Open
N Massu V R Sluiter N Massu to Win @ 1.33 Open
J Bjorkman V R Vik R Vik to Win @ 2.10 Open

and single on acasuso to start things off

Mistaflava
03-22-2006, 04:54 PM
Round 1: Wednesday, March 22, 2006



Paul Goldstein -114 over Justin Gimelstob ($570 to win $500)

This is the big bad battle of the American boys who are never going to crack the TOP 50. Both have been floating around the 50-100 ranking for several years now and it has become evident that neither one of these two players can do much more than show up for some tournaments, win a few matches and make a little bit of money here and there. I was somewhat surprised at the odds for this match because by the looks of things, Goldstein is having quite the year in 2006 while Gimelstob is being....well Gimelstob and losing pretty much all over the place. To be precise, Gimelstob has not beat a significant hard courter at the ATP level in ages and all his wins at the ATP hardcourt level have come against guys with just terrible hardcourt records and who have basically not done anything at this level in a very long time. Goldstein on the other hand is coming off a very good match against Andre Agassi where he was a few bad calls away from possibly winning and taking over that match. Prior to that, he beat X-Man, Ginepri and Spadea in Las Vegas where he reached the semi-finals and before that, Goldstein beat Scoville Jenkins to make the 2nd round of the Memphis tournament. Goldstein is 4-0 in matches versus fellow Americans ranked #50 or worse in ATP events since his loss to Salzenstein in Delray Beach back in September of 2004. I don't see this match going much further than two sets because Goldstein already has two lifetime wins over Gimelstob and both of those wins never made it out of the second set. Let's finish the day off with a big win from the man of Gold.



: :eek:

TwistyServe
03-22-2006, 04:55 PM
Just took

Acasuso over Zib @1.58



Started off with a nice single!

Acasuso mauls Zib after playing a loose first set! Think thats it for me today. Will probably go with PHM over Djokovic tomorrow but not certain yet!

5-7, 6-1, 6-1

Jaap
03-22-2006, 04:55 PM
Carlsen x Santoro x Kim.

Also done a mixture of tommorrow and todays - Muller x Acasuso x Pavel

Good luck.
Good start. :)

i2ooney
03-22-2006, 04:56 PM
im glad i didnt pick a match like saulnier, feel for the fella who backed him!

Mistaflava
03-22-2006, 04:56 PM
I spoke to soon the kiss of death, since i posted that score Carlsen has won 6 games on the bounce and looks to be heading for the next round.


I don't believe that piece of shit...arrrgh


:mad:

betowiec
03-22-2006, 04:58 PM
taking carlsen for $175 at 1.952 in the early match


nothing big, but win is a win

TwistyServe
03-22-2006, 05:03 PM
nothing big, but win is a win

Very nice buddy!

I think Carlsen deserves a good fade next round against Ginepri though. Sure there will be people on the boards that think im nuts but Ginepri played solid last week against PDorn, and seriously he's played well all year but lost tough matches... Srichaphan was red hot last week too, so tough draw for Ginepri.. but he'll bounce back.. not sure if I will take the bet yet but will see the odds.

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 05:10 PM
Round 1: Wednesday, March 22, 2006



Paul Goldstein -114 over Justin Gimelstob ($570 to win $500)

Now that I agree with! :yeah:

Goldie does cause trouble for serve-volleyers so he has a good chance today. But you'll be aware of how Gimel charged through the qualies..

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 05:14 PM
Very nice buddy!

I think Carlsen deserves a good fade next round against Ginepri though. Sure there will be people on the boards that think im nuts but Ginepri played solid last week against PDorn, and seriously he's played well all year but lost tough matches... Srichaphan was red hot last week too, so tough draw for Ginepri.. but he'll bounce back.. not sure if I will take the bet yet but will see the odds.

Pfff I don't agree with that - sorry. Ginepri hasn't got a good record vs serve-volleyers, and he isn't in form at all...his confidence really isn't good and he will be desperate now because he faces the clay very soon. That said, his record vs lefties is good. But I'm sure there are better matches on that day to bet on and Carlsen hasn't been losing to inferior players since October...

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 05:15 PM
Well done to Mikey too among others :bigclap:

He had Chucho pinned from the start :lol:

Sheva
03-22-2006, 05:35 PM
Carlsen did a good job! Baggeling Saulnier in final set! :boxing: :haha:

Now i need Kim & Moodie to win for my triple with Acasuso & Kim & Moodie

Also a double on Kim & Vik

And a single on Simon over Serra

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Carlsen did a good job! Baggeling Saulnier in final set! :boxing: :haha:

Now i need Kim & Moodie to win for my triple with Acasuso & Kim & Moodie

Also a double on Kim & Vik

And a single on Simon over Serra

Nice stuff Sheva :yeah:

I hope Kim wins for you because I made the mistake with putting Roddick in 2 bets last time :(

Vik does fine vs serve-vollyers - I had that match 50/50

Serra has been cooling off lately

TwistyServe
03-22-2006, 05:50 PM
Anyone in here actually putting money on Young or Berlocq? :lol:

Corey Feldman
03-22-2006, 06:01 PM
Well done to Mikey too among others :bigclap:

He had Chucho pinned from the start :lol:Aye ma'man :yeah:
as predicted, Zibby is going for the record... how many straight ATP defeats is that now 17??
fade him for the next 5 tournies ;)

very small on Wawa tonight over mzuza @1.10 .. but what the hell, Go Muzza! :rocker2:

dbnumberone
03-22-2006, 06:05 PM
Anyone in here actually putting money on Young or Berlocq? :lol:

I'll be on it! You know who...

Anders
03-22-2006, 06:26 PM
adding...

Llodra -125/$1.80 (1)

theonekyuuto
03-22-2006, 06:34 PM
Paul Goldstein over Gimelstob? it's possible, but i do feel it's risky, since Gimelstob had won some great mathces before. and Paul Goldstein is not that stable.

bad gambler
03-22-2006, 08:23 PM
Anyone in here actually putting money on Young or Berlocq? :lol:


Out of interest, anyone got odds on this marquee matchup? My book doesn't offer it

TwistyServe
03-22-2006, 08:24 PM
Out of interest, anyone got odds on this marquee matchup? My book doesn't offer it

2.4 for young.. forgot what berlocq is but probably 1.7

tt boy
03-22-2006, 08:34 PM
wonderful performance Bjorkman http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/9291/poop1hb.gif

George_Hanson
03-22-2006, 08:49 PM
Out of interest, anyone got odds on this marquee matchup? My book doesn't offer it

like TS said, ca. 1.7 - 2.4

i2ooney
03-22-2006, 08:54 PM
massu is about to complete my 4-fold accumulator (vik,acasuso,santoro)
haven't lost a tennis bet for about a week and a half now on a roll!
also won a single on shaugnessy

Only Malisse, Safin and Vliegen appeal to me from tomorrows action.

only have a small play on this (and I mean small)

X Malisse V N Lapentti X Malisse to Win @ 1.25 Open
K Vliegen V B Pashanski K Vliegen to Win @ 1.33 Open
L Horna V F Mayer F Mayer to Win @ 1.66 Open
M Safin V T Henman M Safin to Win @ 1.44 Open
A Kleybanova V V Razzano V Razzano to Win @ 1.28 Open
A Morigami V Na Li NA LI to Win @ 1.36 Open
E Bychkova V C Castano E K Bychkova to Win @ 2.05 Open
E Vesina V E Loit E Loit to Win @ 1.57 Open
J Craybas V J Kostanic J Craybas to Win @ 2.37 Open
S Asagoe V N Llagostera Vives S Asagoe to Win @ 1.83 Open
S Bammer V V King S Bammer to Win @ 1.70 Open
Zi Yan V M Krajicek M Krajicek to Win @ 1.28 Open

gonna play a few more but taking a rest

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 09:04 PM
massu is about to complete my 4-fold accumulator (vik,acasuso,santoro)
haven't lost a tennis bet for about a week and a half now on a roll!
also won a single on shaugnessy

Only Malisse, Safin and Vliegen appeal to me from tomorrows action.

only have a small play on this (and I mean small)

X Malisse V N Lapentti X Malisse to Win @ 1.25 Open
K Vliegen V B Pashanski K Vliegen to Win @ 1.33 Open
L Horna V F Mayer F Mayer to Win @ 1.66 Open
M Safin V T Henman M Safin to Win @ 1.44 Open
A Kleybanova V V Razzano V Razzano to Win @ 1.28 Open
A Morigami V Na Li NA LI to Win @ 1.36 Open
E Bychkova V C Castano E K Bychkova to Win @ 2.05 Open
E Vesina V E Loit E Loit to Win @ 1.57 Open
J Craybas V J Kostanic J Craybas to Win @ 2.37 Open
S Asagoe V N Llagostera Vives S Asagoe to Win @ 1.83 Open
S Bammer V V King S Bammer to Win @ 1.70 Open
Zi Yan V M Krajicek M Krajicek to Win @ 1.28 Open

gonna play a few more but taking a rest

Great stuff mate!! :yeah: :worship:

I have Vliegen for tomorrow but I'm worried now - the odds on Willhill have come in and line movement rarely happens :(

Sheva
03-22-2006, 09:12 PM
Didn't expect that Serra would come trough so good :rolleyes:

But if Kim takes second and third i will still be happy!

C. Rochus - Moodie also a closs match with the wrong winner for me :o

Any thoughts on Murray - Wawrinka?

I am still thinking about that match and the double Bogomolov Jr. & Goldstein over Querry and Gimelstob...I haven't seen Querry play...Is he capable of beating Bogomolov?

TwistyServe
03-22-2006, 09:14 PM
I am still thinking about that match and the double Bogomolov Jr. & Goldstein over Querry and Gimelstob...I haven't seen Querry play...Is he capable of beating Bogomolov?

I would stay away from those matches.. could go either way..

Serra had a good win today but I'm taking gasquet over serra easily! Either a double if odds are too low, or a single if at least 1.5.

Freeze17171
03-22-2006, 09:23 PM
Querrey beat Bobby Reynolds and took Blake and Spadea to three. He's young and I think he is a capable of beating Alex. I don't know, I would probably stay away from this match since I haven't seen either player play, but the line for Querrey is intriguing.

Come on Kevin, pull this one out, you're better than him.

Sheva
03-22-2006, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the advice guys!

At the start of a tournament i am sometimes to much willing to put in bets even if i am not really sure...I think i should be more carefull and wait for good opportunities!

theonekyuuto
03-22-2006, 09:41 PM
Yeah that's what i felt too, i am afraid to miss a chance to win $$, but most of the time it turns out lose $$. we should all sit and watch the first round, and see whether there's some unpredictable thing pops up.

Sheva
03-22-2006, 09:49 PM
Kim pulled out the win! Great work Kevin!

bad gambler
03-22-2006, 09:51 PM
Stepped out for 45min or so, did Llodra just blow a double break in the first set? :scratch:

Anyway rounding off the day with a small parlay:

Murray x Gimelstob - $3.35

gl

skel1983
03-22-2006, 09:51 PM
Kim pulled out the win! Great work Kevin!

Kimmy is the man, gave me a heart attack in the 3rd, after going a break down, but came through strong!!!


All we need now is Goldstein to do the business later on!!

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 10:03 PM
Didn't expect that Serra would come trough so good :rolleyes:

But if Kim takes second and third i will still be happy!

C. Rochus - Moodie also a closs match with the wrong winner for me :o

Any thoughts on Murray - Wawrinka?

I am still thinking about that match and the double Bogomolov Jr. & Goldstein over Querry and Gimelstob...I haven't seen Querry play...Is he capable of beating Bogomolov?

Murray will win if he can serve well. If he doesn't, he won't. Very simple. Sorry I can't be more precise :lol:

I try to stay away from matches where I don't know how one player plays...unless the stats clearly indicate that the unknown player is several classes below his opponent. Therefore, with respect to the Bogomolov match, sorry, I can't help :(

Horatio Caine
03-22-2006, 10:05 PM
Stepped out for 45min or so, did Llodra just blow a double break in the first set? :scratch:

I didn't see much from the scoreboard but I gather that he was a break-up and struggled to hold in the latter stages of the set. Quite what happened in set 2 I don't know - did Dlouhy blow or did Llodra find his feet?!! :eek:

Jaap
03-22-2006, 10:05 PM
Carlsen x Santoro x Kim.
Good start to the tournament :yeah:

skel1983
03-22-2006, 10:10 PM
Good start to the tournament :yeah:

Nice!!! All good odd's to you have much on it??

Jaap
03-22-2006, 10:21 PM
Nice!!! All good odd's to you have much on it??
£20 getting back £114.

Gives me money to play with for the rest of the tournament. :)

skel1983
03-22-2006, 10:25 PM
£20 getting back £114.

Gives me money to play with for the rest of the tournament. :)

Well done mate nice little earner!!

Jaap
03-22-2006, 11:12 PM
Well done mate nice little earner!!
Cheers.

i2ooney
03-22-2006, 11:13 PM
last play of the day

murray to beat wawrinka. this is an extremely tough match to call. murray is young and if things don't go his way early on he may show signs of immaturity. the main reason i'm backing him is cos I believe he can prevail in a tight match without playing well. the first set will inevitably head towards a tie-break and it is here I hope Murray doesn't give the first set away. hopefully he can get to for example 5-5 and then win the tie-break. I believe he is the mental toughness and motivation to get through this match, and I also believe he will approach the match as if he is the underdog and won't be complacent. Whereas Wawrinka this year may be mentally dejected from losing some tight matches to evenly-matched opponents and so I believe tonight he may falter at crucial moments.

that's my amateur analysis.

Jaap
03-22-2006, 11:15 PM
Just added Goldstein to beat Gimlestob.

Goldstein has been in decent form this season and should have enough to beat his fellow American.

i2ooney
03-22-2006, 11:21 PM
me too

i2ooney
03-23-2006, 12:12 AM
wish i hadn't now. lol

murray's made a good start though

i2ooney
03-23-2006, 12:42 AM
don't hold much hope for either a Murray or Goldstein comeback!

TwistyServe
03-23-2006, 12:50 AM
don't hold much hope for either a Murray or Goldstein comeback!

I've backed murray twice.. once against robredo.. once againt davydonky..

Both times he played WTA style got broken like 3 times each set,... was such a joke of a match. I will never back him again unless he shows some consistency in his wins and serves.

As for goldstein.. why on earth back a journyman?

skel1983
03-23-2006, 12:51 AM
don't hold much hope for either a Murray or Goldstein comeback!

Nt good Goldstein 0/6 in break points in the first!!! He is in the top 10 with break point convertions aswell!!! just my luck!

skel1983
03-23-2006, 12:53 AM
I've backed murray twice.. once against robredo.. once againt davydonky..

Both times he played WTA style got broken like 3 times each set,... was such a joke of a match. I will never back him again unless he shows some consistency in his wins and serves.

As for goldstein.. why on earth back a journyman?


I suppose your right, two opponents like Goldsyein and Gimelstob is not a good match to call, it depends which version of both turn up!!

Horatio Caine
03-23-2006, 12:58 AM
I suppose your right, two opponents like Goldsyein and Gimelstob is not a good match to call, it depends which version of both turn up!!

A match is good to call if you can single out certain characteristics that puts one player above the other. Goldstein happens to trouble serve-volleyers and he has been in good form at ATP level. Why not back him? Admittedly, it was not the best match to bet on today but I don't see the problem. Besides, only one set has been played and I was under the impression that matches this tournament were best of 3.

Horatio Caine
03-23-2006, 01:01 AM
I've backed murray twice.. once against robredo.. once againt davydonky..

Both times he played WTA style got broken like 3 times each set,... was such a joke of a match. I will never back him again unless he shows some consistency in his wins and serves.

Yeah Murray needs his serve sorting...not that difficult if his balltoss is addressed.

As for goldstein.. why on earth back a journyman?

What would you class Gimelstob as?

TwistyServe
03-23-2006, 01:03 AM
What would you class Gimelstob as?

Another journeyman.. thats why I didn't back either

Horatio Caine
03-23-2006, 01:19 AM
Another journeyman.. thats why I didn't back either

You'd have a hard time betting outside of top 70 then :lol:

skel1983
03-23-2006, 01:27 AM
It's not over yet come on Goldy!!! Saved two match points i think?

skel1983
03-23-2006, 01:46 AM
Go Goldstein 1 set all!!!

dbnumberone
03-23-2006, 04:11 AM
bet to win a unit on X - X hasn't lost for me all year, who'da thunk it - lapentti's days are behind him
&
bet to win a unit on *the dog* MOODIE - he'll take down twerpII - rochus is way overpriced still b/c of his lucky draw last month...

like anders said, gl as always

Moodie loses, X wins, 0.05 units up on the day - I will be supersizing my value meal tomorrow!

On another note, whoever said Goldstein will never be top 50, ummm, he's 64 right now & will have his highest ranking ever w/ the win and no points to defend this week...

gahh
03-23-2006, 05:50 AM
massu is about to complete my 4-fold accumulator (vik,acasuso,santoro)
haven't lost a tennis bet for about a week and a half now on a roll!
also won a single on shaugnessy

Only Malisse, Safin and Vliegen appeal to me from tomorrows action.

only have a small play on this (and I mean small)

X Malisse V N Lapentti X Malisse to Win @ 1.25 Open
K Vliegen V B Pashanski K Vliegen to Win @ 1.33 Open
L Horna V F Mayer F Mayer to Win @ 1.66 Open
M Safin V T Henman M Safin to Win @ 1.44 Open
A Kleybanova V V Razzano V Razzano to Win @ 1.28 Open
A Morigami V Na Li NA LI to Win @ 1.36 Open
E Bychkova V C Castano E K Bychkova to Win @ 2.05 Open
E Vesina V E Loit E Loit to Win @ 1.57 Open
J Craybas V J Kostanic J Craybas to Win @ 2.37 Open
S Asagoe V N Llagostera Vives S Asagoe to Win @ 1.83 Open
S Bammer V V King S Bammer to Win @ 1.70 Open
Zi Yan V M Krajicek M Krajicek to Win @ 1.28 Open

gonna play a few more but taking a rest

Nice bets there, we're very like minded on most of those. I don't bet on Safin matches because of his unpredictability but good betting in the women's. I saw Razzano beat Dokic in Melbourne and she's got enough to beat Kleybanova easily. Na Li should win, Bychkova I'm on also (though I've been warned against her by people on here ;) ) and Loit should smash Vesnina. And the rest.

With my winnings from Fabrice last night I'm having some on the Scud to win 2-0 and loading up on Loit.