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How well known is Roger in your country? (f.k.a: A question to the Americans here)

RonE
03-20-2006, 01:13 PM
A couple of years ago people were saying how in the U.S apart from the tennis fans who follow the game, your average Joe didn't know who Roger Federer was.

My question is this: now that Roger has won 2 U.S. Opens, 2 Masters Cups (in Houston), and 5 Master Series events on U.S. soil- does he finally get the recognition he deserves? Does your average guy/gal who goes to watch the U.S. Open on Labour Day know who he is?

TheMightyFed
03-20-2006, 02:37 PM
As long as he's not American, and out of the tabloids, he will go unnoticed I think...

Dirk
03-20-2006, 02:43 PM
No, he is still unknown but sports show are giving his achievements more attention. If he wins RG, media here will have a field day because they love comparing Woods and Federer.

mangoes
03-20-2006, 03:14 PM
He is still relatively unknown; however, he is talked about more and more on espn sport shows............ I agree with Dirk, if he wins the FO, then we will hear more about him because usually Tiger's name isn't far behind when they are talking about Roger. But, over the past 2 years, his visibility has increased in the US.

tangerine_dream
03-20-2006, 03:17 PM
My question is this: now that Roger has won 2 U.S. Opens, 2 Masters Cups (in Houston), and 5 Master Series events on U.S. soil- does he finally get the recognition he deserves? Does your average guy/gal who goes to watch the U.S. Open on Labour Day know who he is?
No. He's still Mr Nobody here. Maybe after five more US Open slam wins some of them will finally start to recognize his name. ;)

TheMightyFed
03-20-2006, 03:42 PM
He is still relatively unknown; however, he is talked about more and more on espn sport shows............ I agree with Dirk, if he wins the FO, then we will hear more about him because usually Tiger's name isn't far behind when they are talking about Roger. But, over the past 2 years, his visibility has increased in the US.
Comparison with Tiger Woods... Comparison with Sampras or Borg is already leading nowhere, so with Tiger Woods... :rolleyes:

mangoes
03-20-2006, 04:10 PM
I'm curious............How popular is Roger in Australia, France, Argentina?

SUKTUEN
03-20-2006, 04:19 PM
I think Roger is popluar in Europe more than USA

TheMightyFed
03-20-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm curious............How popular is Roger in Australia, France, Argentina?
I'm living in Switzerland and let me tell you that here he's huge ! People are very proud and Swiss Tv tries to air his finals as much as possible.
But in a way people get spoiled and don't realise what he's doing because it's so rare in Switzerland to have all time greats in a sport. Plus there is competition with winter sports and football.
In France Roger is famous but not that much. Since Noah tennis is not that big in France unfortunately, even some DC matches are not on TV... the fact that he speaks French helps and when he's in Monte-Carlo or Roland Garros he gives very relaxed interviews and people get to know him... hopefully, when he starts winning a few French Opens things will change !

SUKTUEN
03-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Roger popluar in Switzerland is sure to be normal

World Beater
03-20-2006, 05:03 PM
actually people here know about federer. They just dont care too much about tennis i think because the media never cares to show it to them on a consistent basis.

If roger maybe appeared on more shows on ESPN, i think he would def get more recognition. He is starting to realize this and is appearing more frequently in the media.

bokehlicious
03-20-2006, 06:58 PM
Even in Switzerland I personnaly feels that he remains relatively unknown... I mean, of course everybody knows him here and the media relate his victories and main matches reports... But in fact, only a few minority gives a damn to sport here and when they do it's mainly on soccer or ice hockey...

I admit it annoys me sometimes when the media and the people praise Tom Luthi or Stephane Lambiel achievements too much, Tom seems to be a half-god here, and he's actually a babe in sport's world compared to Roger...

Dirk
03-20-2006, 07:33 PM
Comparison with Tiger Woods... Comparison with Sampras or Borg is already leading nowhere, so with Tiger Woods... :rolleyes:

They do it with Woods to show how dominant Roger is, infact many sport pundits talk about how Roger is more dominant in tennis than Woods in Golf.

Skyward
03-20-2006, 07:44 PM
He has to move to the US and get involved into a huge sex/drug scandal. Then may be he'll become a household name here. :p

mangoes
03-20-2006, 08:37 PM
He has to move to the US and get involved into a huge sex/drug scandal. Then may be he'll become a household name here. :p

There's just not enough buzz created around Roger. Even sports personalities have to be marketed........and part of that blame falls on the ATP. Heck, I've never seen Beckham play, soccer isn't a big sport in the US, but there is so much marketing surrounding him that he's a fairly well known sports figure in the US.

LCeh
03-20-2006, 08:46 PM
I remember someone said this: "The problem with Roger is that, he doesn't really have any problems."

There simply isn't much to write about him. He goes and does his thing, and he does it very well, and he keeps his life very simple. When you don't have much to be writen about, then you don't really get much exposure. But do I mind? Not really, if this helps his career, then who cares. ;)

MissMoJo
03-20-2006, 09:17 PM
The average person who watches sportcenter, around the horn etc. regularly will at least have heard of him, on the rare occasion when he is mentioned (usually after a slam result). I doubt the everyday man is familiar with his game or accomplishments, except that he's at the top of the sport.

nobama
03-20-2006, 09:30 PM
actually people here know about federer. They just dont care too much about tennis i think because the media never cares to show it to them on a consistent basis.

If roger maybe appeared on more shows on ESPN, i think he would def get more recognition. He is starting to realize this and is appearing more frequently in the media.What cracks me up is when Roger's being interviewed on ESPN and they ask him why he's not more well known in the USA. :lol:

World Beater
03-20-2006, 10:37 PM
What cracks me up is when Roger's being interviewed on ESPN and they ask him why he's not more well known in the USA. :lol:

dies...thats just too much

:haha:

that has to be in the thread "Stupid questions by journos" or whatever.

TenHound
03-22-2006, 05:47 AM
Everybody I know who is into tennis Adores him. However, Am. male sportswriters are macho worshippers so they wet themselves writing up Thugs & have a very difficult time w/Roger. These aren't guys who go to the theater & art museums, they're beer drinkers, rather than wine drinkers, as it were. The editor of the major tennis mag (tennis.com) for christ sakes calls Roger - In Print - Mr. Sickeningly Perfect. In short, he's exactly what they run to sports to avoid - plus they can't feel superior to him!!

On the other hand, I know a retired Professor of Nursing, w/zero connection to tennis or interest in sports of any kind & utter loathing for celebrity culture, who put him on after hearing me rave - and she's mesmerized watching him. So, I would position interviews etc. not for the average dumb schmuck who's into male corporate jock culture, but to professionals, the educated, art lovers, piano players - look at his delicate tapered fingers.... He's a New Breed of Cat for the Male Jockocracy to relate to - firstly 'cuz women relate to him more intensely than men do & they don't know what to do w/that 'cuz in America sports is where males go when they want to be free of women.

Minnie
03-22-2006, 07:30 AM
I can only speculate just how big he'd be here if he was British - I think as I said elsewhere, he'd be Sir Roger by now :lol: Switzerland should be extremely proud of him - not just an all time legend of tennis but a great ambassador for their country.

bokehlicious
03-22-2006, 08:26 AM
I can only speculate just how big he'd be here if he was British - I think as I said elsewhere, he'd be Sir Roger by now :lol: Switzerland should be extremely proud of him - not just an all time legend of tennis but a great ambassador for their country.

Unfortunately in Switzerland, people like the CEOs of UBS or Credit Suisse seem to be more well-known and respected for their achievements than the few great sportsmen we have... :sad:

SUKTUEN
03-22-2006, 04:23 PM
oh GOD

uglyamerican
03-22-2006, 04:30 PM
Now Andy Murray is completely unknown in America. Most (non-obsessed) tennis fans here would not be able to pick him out of lineup of himself, Tony Blair, and the queen.

uglyamerican
03-22-2006, 04:32 PM
Being famous in Britain does nothing for you here.

CmonAussie
03-23-2006, 12:29 AM
Safe to say ROGER is HUGE DOWN UNDER*!*.Hope the females don`t get too excited...

Seriously though Federer is Swiss he`s probably the most popular non-Aussie sportsperson in Australia. Of course it helps that tennis is a very popular sport in AUS. Plus the fact that Federer always does well when he comes to our Southern Shores. 2-AO`s, 1-Sydney outdoor, 1-Hopman Cup [with Martina], 1-Kooyong Classic & memorable Davis Cup clashes...Aussies won`t forget the Roger vs Lleyton SF in 2003! If Federer weren`t such a nice guy then he could have been enemy No.1^ consider he beat Philippoussis in the 03 Wimby Final & he`s beaten Hewitt 5-times in Grand Slam meetings, including the 04 USO Final. As it is Aussies respect great play from great people & Roger`s proven himself to be the best at his trade whilst being a very modest & down to earth character,^Aussies respect that even more!
*If there was any doubt about Fed`s popularity in AUS then you should have seen the spectators faces when Roger made his emotional speech after receiving the trophy from Rod Laver at the AO final this year. Despite the macho Aussie sports image we actually prefer the sensitive ones!

#Maybe 3-4 years ago Tiger Woods would have been the most popular non-Aussie sportsman Down Under, but as it is today I`m sure if you took a pole then Federer would be clearly No.1 non-Aussie in terms of popularity, fame & respect...

TenHound
03-23-2006, 02:38 AM
Here's Exhibit A for my point above that most Am. Sportswriters cannot appreciate Roger. It's from the major local paper in Miami:

Men to Watch - Miami Herald

Don't miss this shirt: Dominik Hrbaty of Slovakia takes ribbing for his peek-a-boo pink and black shirt, but he plans to wear it again. The shirt features two giant holes in the back, sort of like air-conditioning for his shoulder blades, which might not be a bad idea in the Miami humidity.

• The entertainers: Win or lose, these players are worth the price of admission -- Marcos Baghdatis, Guillermo Coria, Rafael Nadal, Andre Agassi and Paradorn Srichaphan.

• Throwbacks (aka serve-and-volleyers): Jonas Bjorkman, Taylor Dent and Tim Henman.

• Serving big: Want to see aces? Look for Ivo Karlovic, Ivan Ljubicic, Mario Ancic and Roddick.

*********
Go for Thuggy's silly macho, but nothing to watch in Roger - or even Marat. Idiots.

TenHound
03-23-2006, 02:41 AM
CmonAussie, what were their faces like? We had to stay up all night even to see the ceremony - it was Not rebroadcast on the daytime show when all sane people watched. Happily I have it on tape.

Doesn't the fact that he's virtually all Aussie coached, and now by Tony factor into Aussie's appreciation. I also think that Aussie's in general are far more tennis knowledgeable than Americans.

What's their view of Hewitt - not only the local, but the kid w/the Aussie macho stuff?

SUKTUEN
03-23-2006, 03:27 AM
the question is very long

CmonAussie
03-23-2006, 03:45 AM
CmonAussie, what were their faces like? We had to stay up all night even to see the ceremony - it was Not rebroadcast on the daytime show when all sane people watched. Happily I have it on tape.

Doesn't the fact that he's virtually all Aussie coached, and now by Tony factor into Aussie's appreciation. I also think that Aussie's in general are far more tennis knowledgeable than Americans.

What's their view of Hewitt - not only the local, but the kid w/the Aussie macho stuff?
:wavey:
Thanks TenHound :cool: .G`day Mate ;) .

Yeah the Tony Roche factor definitely doesn`t hurt Federer`s popularity factor Down Under. Honestly I think Federer`s fan base has just built up gradually.1st He won the Hopman Cup in 2001 with Martina Hingis, even though it`s only an exibition I still reckon Roger took it seriously at the time,as it was the only time he`s been able to win a trophy for Switzerland [Davis Cup would be preferable of course :angel: ].Also I reckon he probably gained mentally from playing with Hingis, who was No.1 at the time despite the power revolution of the Williams sisters,Davenport,Mauresmo etc.

Ironically the thing that probably turned more people into Federer fans was his defeat in 5-sets to Hewitt in the Davis Cup Semi 2003. As it was Roger had to endure to heartbreaking losses in consecutive days [also lost a 5-setter in the doubles vs Woodbridge & Arthurs]. Then he was quite tearful after those consecutive 5-set defeats, yet he still made the trip to play outdoor in Melbourne in September[effectively our winter :eek: at that time] & put it all on the line & nearly single-handedly got Switzerland into the Davis Cup Final. Lucky for us Hewitt still had his warrior mentality back then & managed to sneak us a win :cool: .Many Federer analysts have said that Davis Cup semi defeat was a turning point for Roger^ & it proved to be as he has since beaten Hewitt 9-times straight,plus won nearly every pressurised match since. Also it was the last time I think Federer cried from losing a match :sad: ,naturally we`ve all seen him cry a few times since but for winning instead :angel: .

About Rocky Llegs Hewitt :cool: ! I`m not sure if I can give you an unbiased opinion :p . Anyway I think he`s much more respected than the media, either in Australia or America, would have people believe. Simply for the way Lleyton plays the game many people respect that fighting quality ;) .Though sadly in recent months he`s playing tennis as if he doesn`t care about the result. Anyway, if you go to any local tennis club in Australia I`m sure you`ll find dozens of little kids battling away in rallies & doing the fist-pumps & lawn-mower motions a la Rocky Hewitt ;) .For the little kids[ie.not tall in stature] Hewitt is still their HERO [I honestly believe that] :cool: .Of course if we were all as talented & gifted as Federer :worship: then it would be preferable to be able to hit so many winners, rather than grinding out every point.

PS. :) Aussies, especially Melbournian`s are sports mad, so if a World-class athlete makes the trip to AUS then they`ll usually get a warm reception. Unlike America, where many people assume they`re living in the most important nation- so top sportsmen should come & then be defeated by the locals. It`s hard to explain. Anyway Australia`s geographical isolation & small population make us appreciate things more, even if they`re not home-grown talents. Well that`s my opinion mate...

Daniel
03-23-2006, 04:09 AM
Here in South Africa, Roger is popular. The media talks about him all the time , specially when he wins tournaments. and they always mention his mother is South African :o (so they feel proud aobut it) and also is very respected because of his foundation which helps poor children to give them a better future.

lsy
03-23-2006, 05:23 AM
It's not surprising if he's still a nobody in US after all let's face it tennis is the no.??? sports there? Not to mention that Rogi really doesn't have any of those "star" elements that will "light up" any of their attention :shrug: Actually I think he might be more well known had he been defeated by Andy in all those Wimby encounters past years than for him to win it all with reason Commonaussie had offered (btw welcome back and great to see you posting here :wavey: )

What I'm more interested is if his own country actually truly appreciate what a great sportsman they have with the results he produced not to mention how well he had been representing the country. My impression is yes they do but not to the extent we thought it would have been as JMPower mentioned, it's quite a pity. But I guess people tend to take it for granted after a while. Surely he will be more appreciated when he retires...as it always is ;)

btw Ron, do you want to know if Rogi is huge here in Malaysia? :p

CmonAussie
03-23-2006, 06:51 AM
It's not surprising if he's still a nobody in US after all let's face it tennis is the no.??? sports there? Not to mention that Rogi really doesn't have any of those "star" elements that will "light up" any of their attention :shrug: Actually I think he might be more well known had he been defeated by Andy in all those Wimby encounters past years than for him to win it all with reason Commonaussie had offered (btw welcome back and great to see you posting here :wavey: )

What I'm more interested is if his own country actually truly appreciate what a great sportsman they have with the results he produced not to mention how well he had been representing the country. My impression is yes they do but not to the extent we thought it would have been as JMPower mentioned, it's quite a pity. But I guess people tend to take it for granted after a while. Surely he will be more appreciated when he retires...as it always is ;)

btw Ron, do you want to know if Rogi is huge here in Malaysia? :p

:wavey:
Cheers Isy mate ;) .
Sorry I`d never realised you`re from Malaysia before :) ,a very cool country & one i plan to visit again. I`ve stoped in Kuala Lumpur a few times on my way to Japan^,where I`m working now. KL is quite an exciting & lively place :cool: ;) .

lsy
03-23-2006, 07:36 AM
:wavey:
Cheers Isy mate ;) .
Sorry I`d never realised you`re from Malaysia before :) ,a very cool country & one i plan to visit again. I`ve stoped in Kuala Lumpur a few times on my way to Japan^,where I`m working now. KL is quite an exciting & lively place :cool: ;) .

Other than the weather/traffics/crowds/lousy transporations systems/rude cab drivers/floods/crazy driving/....yeah KL is kind of nice :lol:

But yes most people who visit KL for like few days think it's nice ;)

I like Melbourne better ;) Working in Japan for good? Or only short term?

CmonAussie
03-23-2006, 07:43 AM
Other than the weather/traffics/crowds/lousy transporations systems/rude cab drivers/floods/crazy driving/....yeah KL is kind of nice :lol:

But yes most people who visit KL for like few days think it's nice ;)

I like Melbourne better ;) Working in Japan for good? Or only short term?
:wavey:
Yeah I guess it`s a case of the grass is always greener... ;) ?!
For sure I haven`t spent enough time in KL to see the downside :devil: ,though I`ve seen enough of Japan[Fukuoka^3yrs] & naturally Melbourne to see their shortcomings :eek: .For Melbourne I guess the main problem is the unpredictable weather & especially the wind has to be felt to be believed :mad: .Then most of Japan is covered with vending machines & convenience stores^ even in World Heritage sites :sad: ,naturally that comes as a shock.
*I don`t know how long I`ll stay in Japan but I guess 10-years might be enough for me, before I burn out or go crazy :confused: .However there are many things I love about Japan too^ so that`s why I came :) .When I`m ready to have a family then I expect to migrate back down South again[either Melbourne or Sydney] :cool: ...

lsy
03-23-2006, 08:13 AM
:wavey:
Yeah I guess it`s a case of the grass is always greener... ;) ?!
For sure I haven`t spent enough time in KL to see the downside :devil: ,though I`ve seen enough of Japan[Fukuoka^3yrs] & naturally Melbourne to see their shortcomings :eek: .For Melbourne I guess the main problem is the unpredictable weather & especially the wind has to be felt to be believed :mad: .Then most of Japan is covered with vending machines & convenience stores^ even in World Heritage sites :sad: ,naturally that comes as a shock.

Yes that four seasons weather in one day, I wouldn't forget one time when we were all happily wearing shorts to lectures coz of the bright sunny weather, only to come out one hour later seeing grey sky and howling winds :scared: :lol: yes that wind!!! :eek: I remembered that, it used to cost me headache all the time! Now that you'd mentioned it, it's coming back to haunt me...guess you're right, grass of the other side is always greener ;) I also remember the time when I visited London/Paris during winter, never would I have imagined how much I would be missing the M'sia weather :o

As for Japan, it's a crazily innovative country, I'm always amazed with all sorts of things they managed to come out with there...have you seen the pillow made of Sharapova shape there? :haha:


*I don`t know how long I`ll stay in Japan but I guess 10-years might be enough for me, before I burn out or go crazy :confused: .However there are many things I love about Japan too^ so that`s why I came :) .When I`m ready to have a family then I expect to migrate back down South again[either Melbourne or Sydney] :cool: ...

10 years :eek: :eek:

I would love to visit Japan one day (one obstacle is it's sooooo expensive!) I love countries which you can see strong traits of their traditons/histories, yet at the same time also the very modern side of it. Japan is obviously one of them.

Still remember WyveN? He had missed you...a lot :lol:

CmonAussie
03-23-2006, 09:13 AM
Oh Isy ;) mate, don`t get me started about the Sharapova obsession in Japan.Sometimes I feel physically sick when I see older Japanese men perving at the tennis magazines here just to catch a peek-a-boo close up :o ,it`s quite a sad state of affairs :sad: .The worst part is that most Japanese have no clue who Federer is :confused: ,even though they apparently watch Wimbledon. I guess they only watch they early rounds when the Japanese players are still in the mix & then the Sharapova matches exclusively :( .If you took a poll of the most famous international sportsmen known to Japanese it would read like this...*1.Sharapova, 2.Tiger Woods, 3.David Beckam :eek: ,nothing wrong with that I guess but they should know about Federer & a few others too :angel: !

Isy^ you`ve spent a decent amount of time in Melbourne :) ? SO I guess you were an exchange student there for a few years..Don`t suppose you went to Melb Uni or RMIT? :cool: .During my university days I came across more than a few Malaysians & quite friendly with a couple^ I wonder if we had any friends/aquaintences in common :wavey: ?

Yeah we`ll never be able to solve the wind problem in Melb :eek: ,if it comes from the North then it`s like a desert sandstorm,if it comes from the South then it`s an Antarctic blizzard :devil: ^either way 1st timers may be in for a surprise :p .However if you like multicultural places then Melb`s got to be one of the best cities in the World :cool: ,definitely one of the more diverse big cities going around. If you want Greek, Italian, Mongolian, Vietnamese, Thai food, then it`s all on offer & always the original article. Also Melbournians tend to accept everyone as an individual, so aside from sporting rivalries[a la with England in the Ashes cricket] then you`re not bagged down with any cultural or historical baggage. Every man/woman comes on face value.

As for Japan^ well the end of March\beginning of April is the best time to visit[ie.right now!] as the blooming cherry blossums make for quite a heavenly sight :angel: . Japanese are either the most welcoming people in World :D or some of the most racist :eek: ,it all depends where you`re coming from & how you take them,plus what generation you`re dealing with. Most of the younger people here are fairly hip to foreign things. Also Japan loves their FADS more than any other country,^for instance now Japanese women are obsessed with Korean men/food/culture etc. So I guess if you`re a Korean man who can cook kimuchi/bibimba & you come to Japan then you`ll get mobbed at the airport :rolleyes: .However if the FAD is OUT then you may get a cooler :sad: reception.

PS, Does WyveN really miss me? You`re being sarcastic right...

RonE
03-23-2006, 12:12 PM
CmonAussie- that is quite fascinating. I'll admit we have gone totally :topic: here but having lived in a few places myself over the years I always find it fascinating learning about other cultures and mentalities. :)



Ironically the thing that probably turned more people into Federer fans was his defeat in 5-sets to Hewitt in the Davis Cup Semi 2003.

What was the reaction in Australia to their 2004 AO encounter after that DC semi? Were those same people still his fans after that match? :tape: ;) I remember when Roger was serving for that match the crowd went totally nuts hoping and believing that Hewitt would break back as he did in Davis Cup.


btw Ron, do you want to know if Rogi is huge here in Malaysia? :p

Yes, as a matter of fact I do and I have changed the thread title accordingly ;)

RonE
03-23-2006, 12:15 PM
To answer the question posed in the new title- here in Israel if you ask the average person about tennis s/he will say something like "Is Pete Sampras still playing?" To the average person who is not a tennis fan, the name Roger Federer means absolutely nothing. And there are very few people who are actually interested in tennis- European League basketball and football are the main attractions from a sports stand in Israel.

lsy
03-23-2006, 12:21 PM
:lol: Would there be any time soon when the cool/relax Aussie guys will become the FAD there? ;)

I really don't understand why generally are the asians obsessed with the blondes though :scratch: Hey it's not only Japan where anything to do with Korean is hot these days, here in M'sia too...e.g. the Korean tv series had completely taken over the ones from Japan in terms of popularity.

Well to be honest, here in M'sia (I'm sure Singapore too) unless Rogi appears besides Beckham (or any other famous football players) or Michael Schumacher, he will be noticed and as in like "hey who's the guy standing besides Schumacher?" :lol: :shrug: But among the one who actually follow sports (which unfortunately to many here, sports = football/F1 and for more matured ones : golf :o ), they would know who Federer is.

At least we actually have a Rogi fans in Japan thread here and quite a few great Japanese Rogi fans...if I open a Rogi fans in M'sia thread...I will be spending whole time talking to myself! :eek: :sad:

Who knows maybe you're one of my long lost Aussie friends? :eek: :p You can send me a PM and name me any M'sian mates you know, but I doubt the coincidence coz there really are many M'sian students in Melbourne.

and no I'm not being sacarstic :lol:

lsy
03-23-2006, 12:41 PM
Yes, as a matter of fact I do and I have changed the thread title accordingly ;)

and I have given my answer accordingly :p

One thing though here in M'sia definitely more people will know Andre Agassi than Pete Sampras.

Can you blame me for going offtopic with the long lost poster CmonAussie we all missed? :hug:

RonE
03-23-2006, 12:42 PM
if I open a Rogi fans in M'sia thread...I will be spending whole time talking to myself! :eek: :sad:


:hug:

And if I open a Rogi fans in Israel thread I will end up talking with Rogiman and instead of discussing Roger we will be talking about 1001 ways to cook pork :tape:

RonE
03-23-2006, 12:43 PM
Can you blame me for going offtopic with the long lost poster CmonAussie we all missed? :hug:

Wouldn't dream of it :angel:

lsy
03-23-2006, 12:53 PM
:hug:

And if I open a Rogi fans in Israel thread I will end up talking with Rogiman and instead of discussing Roger we will be talking about 1001 ways to cook pork :tape:

:haha: :haha:

How is it possible that Israel has 2 Rogi fans here where M'sia only one...I'm beginning to think you and Rogiman are simply the same person :devil:

bokehlicious
03-23-2006, 01:04 PM
:hug:

And if I open a Rogi fans in Israel thread I will end up talking with Rogiman and instead of discussing Roger we will be talking about 1001 ways to cook pork :tape:

:haha: :o ;)

RonE
03-23-2006, 03:00 PM
:haha: :haha:

How is it possible that Israel has 2 Rogi fans here where M'sia only one...I'm beginning to think you and Rogiman are simply the same person :devil:

:eek: Busted! :p ;)

ytben
03-23-2006, 04:25 PM
And if I open a Rogi fans in Israel thread I will end up talking with Rogiman and instead of discussing Roger we will be talking about 1001 ways to cook pork :tape:

:haha: :haha:

Isy, maybe we can merge Malaysia & Indonesia thread so at least we can talk to each other. The food in our countries are kinda similar, so we can talk about the recipe for cooking pork as well :devil:

Seriously, in Indonesia sports = badminton & golf. So unless you are an avid tennis fans, people will go Federer who? :o
When he won slams or master series, we did get his face on our newspapers from time to time though.

CmonAussie
03-23-2006, 04:27 PM
Dear Isy & RonE mates~ thanks for the kind words***.

Isy,^don`t suppose you have a Vanessa or Kevin in your circle of friends?[popular Malaysian names maybe?]...From 1997-2001 I was at Melb Uni & met most of my KL pals during that time.Anyway as you said there are many Malysians in Melbourne these days so it would be a sheer fluke if we knew the same ones~~~#.About the current Korean culture/movie/drama boom~ what do you attribute it to? Korean dramas strike me as being overly serious & even pretentious[every one has a flashy car & house etc.].Japan got Korean fever around 3-years ago,so when did it start in Malaysia?

RonE,^are you Isralian? For some reason I always pictured you as English. I guess than name RonE reminds me of the Two Ronnies,^are you familiar with these British comic geniuses? If you`re ever thinking of coming to Japan then please give me a hand to educate the public here about Federer`s brilliance!

Japan`s relationship with tennis is a curious one*.* In the early 1980s McEnroe & Borg were absolute superstars here & then Sampras/Agassi also built up a big following. Then somehow in the last 5-years or so it`s all been about female tennis. Whenever there`s a Slam on they usually show the results from the women`s finals but nothing for the men. Some of the Junior High school kids can mention Davenport or Hingis[other than Sharapova] but none of them can recall the name Federer??? It`s really a big mystery. Maybe Roger needs to appear on more of the Japanese comedy/variety shows to increase public awareness. When Ian Thorpe & David Beckham did that their star* status in Japan reached new levels!!

Rogiman
03-23-2006, 06:00 PM
:hug:

And if I open a Rogi fans in Israel thread I will end up talking with Rogiman and instead of discussing Roger we will be talking about 1001 ways to cook pork :tape:
:yeah: :lol:

I've actually been surprised to find out some people I had been sure would not be familiar with his name knew exactly who he was and his undisputed status.

Of course, if the tennis situation right now in Israel were better (like two decades ago, when we defeated Czechoslovakia :eek: in DC and had Amos and Gilad and Shahar, and to an extent Shlomo in the top 100) he would be very famous methinks.

Unfortunately we only have Harel and Dudi :o and Andy&Johny in doubles, so no wonder few give a shit.

Rogiman
03-23-2006, 06:07 PM
How is it possible that Israel has 2 Rogi fans here where M'sia only one...I'm beginning to think you and Rogiman are simply the same person :devil:
:lol:

Ron is much nicer than me, and makes a way better ambassador of our country here ;)

Unfortunately, lately he's learnt a thing or two from me about nastyness, hence the legendary "Piggy roasting thread" and his new avatar :devil:

RonE
03-23-2006, 06:33 PM
Ron is much nicer than me, and makes a way better ambassador of our country here ;)


That's the point- I am not that much nicer than you, I only know how to sugarcoat that facet of my personality better :devil: :p

And yes, back in the golden days of Amos and Shlomo there must have been much greater interest in the game (although I myself was not following tennis back then :o )

But you know what? Maybe if young Shachar makes a big enough dent in the women's game it might finally spark some interest. Now, what have I been smoking for me to say such a thing? :smoke:

RonE
03-23-2006, 06:36 PM
RonE,^are you Isralian? For some reason I always pictured you as English. I guess than name RonE reminds me of the Two Ronnies,^are you familiar with these British comic geniuses? If you`re ever thinking of coming to Japan then please give me a hand to educate the public here about Federer`s brilliance!


Yes, I am Israeli. I guess it must be my English. After all I did spend many of my formative years in your home country.

I have been to Japan once a long long time ago though I would LOVE to go again. But as lsy mentioned, to do so would be very tough on the wallet :eek: :tape:

Purple Rainbow
03-23-2006, 09:58 PM
In Holland tennis has taken a major slump after the succesfull generation of Krajicek, Eltingh, Haarhuis and Siemerink. We currently have one player, barely, in the top 100, and 3 in the top 300.
Not surprisingly, the Dutch have moved on to sports where we are better at, or have been better at anyway. Football and speedskating.
Most people would know the Williams sisters, Sharapova, Agassi and Sampras. That's about it for the tennis infidels among us. Luckily I have a few friends who know their sports and they are rightfully in awe of Roger.

yanchr
03-24-2006, 03:34 AM
:lol:

Ron is much nicer than me, and makes a way better ambassador of our country here ;)
:rolls: That's the biggest joke here :tape:

yanchr
03-24-2006, 03:42 AM
I guess we all reaize there are many Roger fans in China. Oh well, China has a huuuuuuuuge population, no wonder a bigger population in any kind of groupie :p I think TMC really boosted the popularity of tennis in China, esp in Shanghai. And every time Roger lost a match in a beautiful way( :tape: ) like 05AO and 05TMC, there would appear a bunch of his new fans :tape:

I'm surprised to find that my housemates here actually know him :eek: before I poured everything to them :p

RogiFan88
03-24-2006, 04:23 AM
Well in my country, I believe we recognize and respect Rogi more than in some other countries [...ahem, S of the border... ]. The fact that he was totally mobbed in TO04 shows that some tennis fans knew who he was anyway! ;)

And I try to do my part by educating non-tennis people I come in contact w [family, friends, co-workers, unsuspecting people in the street, people who work in my fave places [bakeries, pastry shops, cafes, magazine stores... ] about the No 1 tennis player in the world. Yes, even some of them find themselves unconsciously "watching" Rogi on TV, in the news, in the papers... a little education can go a long way! [Even a friend of mine actually bought me a tennis DVD, remembering certain players' names, i.e., esp Federer, as well as Ferrero, etc.]

Puschkin
03-24-2006, 06:45 AM
In Holland tennis has taken a major slump after the succesfull generation of Krajicek, Eltingh, Haarhuis and Siemerink.

Exactly the same over here, when Thomas Muster stopped playing ;) I never understood why people are only interested in a sport when one of their fellow country men/women is doing well. :confused:

As for Roger's popoluarity over here: Those you ever hold a raquet in their hands themselves, do know him and he is highly appreciated. Roger is also known to those who just follow sports very generally, "oh yeah, the Swiss tennis player", that's a comment you would hear.

The group watching sports just to satisfy their nationalistic instincts (thereby supporting a football team which never achieves anything :p , but is on TV all the time) would say: "oh, tennis, Thomas Muster....."

And finally: winter sports is generally much more popular in Austria, both in front of the TV and people doing it themselves.

SUKTUEN
03-24-2006, 07:34 AM
Is Roger popluar in USA?

BeerMe
03-28-2006, 01:48 PM
WHAT CAN I SAY>>>> :wavey:

lsy
03-28-2006, 01:55 PM
Dear Isy & RonE mates~ thanks for the kind words***.

Isy,^don`t suppose you have a Vanessa or Kevin in your circle of friends?[popular Malaysian names maybe?]...From 1997-2001 I was at Melb Uni & met most of my KL pals during that time.Anyway as you said there are many Malysians in Melbourne these days so it would be a sheer fluke if we knew the same ones~~~#.About the current Korean culture/movie/drama boom~ what do you attribute it to? Korean dramas strike me as being overly serious & even pretentious[every one has a flashy car & house etc.].Japan got Korean fever around 3-years ago,so when did it start in Malaysia?


As a matter of fact I do have quite a few Kevin in my phone list :o But I doubt we crossed path, coz I came back from Melbourne in 1998! Reminded me how old I am :sad:

About that Koren drama, I would say these past 2 or 3 years? I'm actually not too sure coz I'm hardly a fan...I think the first really popular Korean drama here is the "Winter Sonata"? I remembered watching it for like one or two episodes...all I felt was :yawn: I definitely share the same impression of that flashy car/house thing :lol:

But recently there's this really popular Korean drama all throughout Asia...that one about how this lady became the first female doctor for the King? You seen that? I haven't and still wondering if it's really that good, coz apparently even the ex prime minster of china watched and loved it :lol:

lsy
03-28-2006, 02:10 PM
Exactly the same over here, when Thomas Muster stopped playing ;) I never understood why people are only interested in a sport when one of their fellow country men/women is doing well. :confused:


I don't get it either but I do think at least for the "general" public, having their fellow country men/women doing well would at least bring up the interests/awareness of that sports, and then they can slowly "venture" into appreciating sportsmen/women from other countries.

I like to know how popular is tennis still in Thailand now though, it was once rather huge i think in 2003 when Paradorn was doing really well (I was there and most people I knew talk and watch tennis (or rather paradorn :lol: ) there), but not sure how's it lately...any fans from Thailand here? :wavey:

SUKTUEN
03-28-2006, 04:41 PM
Roger is the Most Popluar Tennis Star in China~

Eden
09-19-2007, 07:51 PM
Unfortunately tennis isn't really popular here in Germany anymore since the glory days of Becker, Graf and Stich are over. There aren't many tournaments broadcasted on television. But as Switzerland is the neighbour country the people who are interested in tennis will know Roger. He normally plays the tournaments in Hamburg and Halle in my country and you all know what a great run he has there :)
Roger was already a guest in Germanys most successful tv show "Wetten dass" a few years ago and got the popular "Goldene Kamera" award, which is given to famous people from national and international showbusiness.
Rogers achievements are noticed by the media and I have never heard anything negative said about him.

World Beater
09-19-2007, 08:03 PM
I sometimes go on vacation to Singapore, and I can safely say that thought they dont have any players at the top, they still have the best coverage of tennis I have ever seen.

they cover all the masters series, and grand slams.They also cover isg and some is tournaments. Even davis cup occasionally.

i have been to singapore, hong kong, india. And tennis is CRAZY. Everyone knows federer and most people love to watch him.

It is not #1 sport like soccer in HK and singapore, or cricket in India, but I assure you its big.

In the US, tennis is becoming bigger and bigger. Federer is now frequently in media conversations.

Sunset of Age
09-20-2007, 01:48 AM
Well, I recently went to attend this Heavy Metal Festival :worship: :rocker2: - Wacken Open Air (www.wacken.com/)- and me and my mateys over there bumped into a lot of friendly people at the Biergarten, including some Metal Lovers from Zürich - and they really were sooo enthusiastic to learn that this Dutchie truly *loved* their HERO, Roger Federer!!! :angel:

SUKTUEN
09-20-2007, 03:59 PM
Roger, Andy and Nadal also popular in China~~

mineralwater
10-08-2007, 03:39 PM
Pretty much everyone here in the UK has heard of Roger because he has won Wimbledon 5 (wow - that still impresses me!) times. Lots of Brits become die hard tennis fans for the 2 weeks of Wimbledon then ignore it for the other 50 weeks. However a few people I know in this category say he's is amazing to watch and would probably watch more if he was on terrestrial TV. Vast majority of tennis is on Skysports or Eurosport for which you need cable

elessar
10-09-2007, 10:07 PM
Everyone knows Roger in France, a friend of mine who knows absolutely nothing about tennis (she barely knew who Gasquet was) told me I was the Federer of penspinning the other day ( yes I'm easily bored in class :p).
The vast majority of people I've talked to seem to like him and want him to win RG, which is only logical since the entire crowd was cheering for him in the final, and the press and commentators worship him you should hear Forget commentating one of his matchs : he's one of the biggest Fedtards ever. During the USO a journalist in l'Equipe even suggested that a room be dedicated to Roger in the MOMA :worship:

bokehlicious
10-10-2007, 12:50 AM
...commentators worship him you should hear Forget commentating one of his matchs : he's one of the biggest Fedtards ever...:

I love how Forget is rooting badly for Roger to win the French ;) even though he was not kind with Roger regarding his DC commitment, he truly loves Roger :)

elessar
10-10-2007, 05:25 PM
I love how Forget is rooting badly for Roger to win the French ;) even though he was not kind with Roger regarding his DC commitment, he truly loves Roger :)

He's not even discreet about it he's said it times and times again that he would love to see him win RG because he's got such a beautiful game compared to Nadal (his words not mine) but DC is a soft spot for Forget even though I think everyone overreacts a little to Roger's commitment to DC, but it's nice to live in a very Roger friendly country :p

SUKTUEN
10-10-2007, 06:04 PM
How worse is Roger's French? :p :p :p

betty.k
10-10-2007, 08:44 PM
Tennis traditionally is a favourite sport here, in the Czech Rep., in a lot of the movies from the 50's the thing for the characters to do in their free time was to play doubles. Lendl, Novotna, Navratilova, Korda and all these helped keep the attention over the years and the fact that the Czech Davis Cup team never dropped out of the elite group shows that the standard maintained its level. We seem to have pretty good players in every generation, now it's Tomas Berdych and Radek Stepanek. But even so, the sports that rule here are football and hockey.
To the point, people who are at least a bit interested in sports (not just tennis), know who RF is. I was really surprised today during my English lesson, where we learn about syntax, morphology and various linguistic aspects, that tennis got mentioned! My teacher needed to give an example of a newspaper article title and after a while came up with: Federer - Stepanek 40 Love. Wow!

Eden
07-26-2012, 10:24 PM
I think we could add a few new answers to this thread after nearly 5 years :)

tripwires
07-27-2012, 02:36 AM
Most people that I've talked to who don't watch/follow tennis at least have heard of Federer, and sometimes watch big matches like the Wimbledon final because he's playing. :dance:

Fed_Ds
07-27-2012, 05:08 AM
I'd say pretty popular for not being American! My coach loves him and everyone at the tennis center always asks me where I got my RF hat.
His practice sessions at Cincy were packed. Also, I went the the USA vs. Spain Davis Cup QFs last year for all three days and I saw a ton of people wearing RF hats.!:D
Naturally they're not gonna root for Roger if he's playing against Roddick, but I'll never forget the way the crowd really pulled for Roger @ the US Open 2008. Especially during the Andreev match. And they played 'Still the one' after all his matches, except after he won they played the Darth Vader theme. Also, Roger said on the morning shows "I'm starting to feel a bit like a New Yorker now."
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duong
07-27-2012, 10:09 AM
How worse is Roger's French? :p :p :p

His French language is very good with a few funny words sometimes :lol:

I often read Swiss people thinking French people like Federer because they consider he's French : it's sincerely silly, Fed is just loved for himself as he's loved everywhere in the world, with something more in France for several reasons which include his interviews in French for sure.

Tignor recently said something which is very true : if he was French, he would be booed sometimes ;) :lol:

The crowd inside Court Suzanne Lenglen isn’t cheering for a countryman. It’s cheering for an idol, a man referred to by at least one Parisian this week as “Jesus.” If anything, this makes the fans more obsessive and intense. A French player is a family member, someone you love and occasionally hate, someone you’ll support and defend at most times, but who you can also scold and jeer if they let you down. Federer isn’t family; nor is he like a favorite local French sports team. He’s something more here, something more distanced and inarguable. He's the Truth.

In a way from what I read in French-speaking Swiss forums, Fed has many critics in the French speaking part of Switzerland that he would receive in France if he was French.

PS : Forget loves Federer's game or rather he loves that it's related to the real tennis he loves, the one from the players he met in the 90s. But apart from that, he's rather critical of Federer, esp. Fed's personality, partly to compensate but not only. Quite similar to Wilander's case.

Litotes
07-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Roger is well known in Norway. Our own tennis players have never amounted to much, unfortunately, but we still follow the sport. The Wimby final was shown live on national TV (not commercial). He is regularly in the sport section of the newspapers, and a Federer win is always bigger news than any other result.

samanosuke
07-27-2012, 12:14 PM
At Croatian newspaper on few pages of Olympics intro, there is Fed picture and text next to it " Federer - A man greater than games itself "

bokehlicious
07-27-2012, 12:24 PM
I often read Swiss people thinking French people like Federer because they consider he's French : it's sincerely silly, Fed is just loved for himself as he's loved everywhere in the world, with something more in France for several reasons which include his interviews in French for sure.

Well, during RG France 2 journos should stop saying year after year "well, you speak French so well surely you must have some French roots, no?" or "his doctor used to be French so that makes him a bit ours" :p

duong
07-27-2012, 12:39 PM
Well, during RG France 2 journos should stop saying year after year "well, you speak French so well surely you must have some French roots, no?" or "his doctor used to be French so that makes him a bit ours" :p

I had never heard that on French TV neither read that on French papers,
I only read recently that Fed had been asked that question in an interview how far of the French border he was born.

I mean surely if you only look for that, you can find it somewhere as you can find many things in the tuns of papers written about Fed, but it's nothing major :shrug:

EDIT : I realized you were speaking of the TV news on France 2 TV and I don't watch that program, now I know :lol: I think it's because it's news not speficically for the tennisfans, they have to add some proximity :shrug:

SUKTUEN
07-27-2012, 12:41 PM
:worship::worship::worship:

kenneth79
07-27-2012, 02:03 PM
Roger is well known in Norway. Our own tennis players have never amounted to much, unfortunately, but we still follow the sport. The Wimby final was shown live on national TV (not commercial). He is regularly in the sport section of the newspapers, and a Federer win is always bigger news than any other result.

Agree with this although Christian Ruud was of a decent standard in the 90s. I believe he reached the final in Båstad one time and pushed my then favourite Becker hard in 92 Olympics!

I suppose one could also count Molla Mallory (born Bjurstedt) who emigrated to the US but participated in the 1912 Olympics for Norway. She later won a bucketload of US Championship titles (equivalent to the US Open now)

Litotes
07-27-2012, 08:01 PM
Agree with this although Christian Ruud was of a decent standard in the 90s. I believe he reached the final in Båstad one time and pushed my then favourite Becker hard in 92 Olympics!

I suppose one could also count Molla Mallory (born Bjurstedt) who emigrated to the US but participated in the 1912 Olympics for Norway. She later won a bucketload of US Championship titles (equivalent to the US Open now)

I remember Ruud well. His pushing Becker was of course impressive, but it was on clay...his best surface and Becker's worst. I too rooted for Becker at the time and remember than he won the Doubles together with Stich. Ruud maxed out at 39 in the rankings and never won a final. He beat Ivanisevic for his best career win. I wonder how many players has Ivanisevic as best career win? Must be a few.

Molla Bjurstedt Mallory was of course a great player, but not one who has contributed to Norwegian tennis interest in recent decades, I fear. A little too long ago. But at least we have a slam winner :)