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bad gambler
03-12-2006, 09:04 PM
Well it does not seem Timmy's price is going to rise anymore..


Henman to beat Berdych - $1.95


gl


EDIT: This winner will be dedicated to our dearly departed aussie who is currently serving a ban from posting here in the gamblers lounge.

Freeze17171
03-13-2006, 07:57 AM
James Blake (-147) vs Tommy Robredo
Blake has been dominant on hard this past year, and is coming off a great tournament win in Las Vegas, simply outplaying Hewitt in the final. He is 9-1 in his last 10 matches on hard, with his only loss coming ironically to Robredo. Since the Australian, Robredo has hardly been impressive, losing to Mirnyi, Voltchkov, Philippoussis, Capdeville, and Karlovic. Look for James to get his revenge and overpower Robredo to a victory.

SadrieL
03-13-2006, 09:30 AM
Henman to beat Berdych - $1.95

Can I ask why? I thought Berdych was an up and comer, and Henman is past it. Though he does seem to have some kind of new found glory since he's no longer considered to be carrying the hopes of the UK on his shoulders.

$@M
03-13-2006, 09:40 AM
Can I ask why? I thought Berdych was an up and comer, and Henman is past it. Though he does seem to have some kind of new found glory since he's no longer considered to be carrying the hopes of the UK on his shoulders.

I like Henman to beat Berdych @ 1.90 as well ~

Berdych hasn't click this year... while Timmy seems to be gaining some confidence after some 'not so difficult' wins in past tournaments... I'd say i lean on on Timmy 60/40 to win this one... but I'll probably go for the safer ones :

Blake @ 1.67
Nieminen x Grosjean @ 2.03
Kirilenko x Ljubicic x Ivanovic @ 2.12

Good luck to everyone ~ (who's not on the other side against me) :yeah:

SadrieL
03-13-2006, 09:49 AM
Nobody likes Stepanek over Malisse? From what I read, Malisse had problems putting Santoro away.

I hate betting on Stepanek though. His face scares me.

Bilbo
03-13-2006, 10:17 AM
fair play to henman

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:13 AM
His face scares me.

:rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:13 AM
Well it does not seem Timmy's price is going to rise anymore..


Henman to beat Berdych - $1.95


gl


EDIT: This winner will be dedicated to our dearly departed aussie who is currently serving a ban from posting here in the gamblers lounge.
Yeah I like Henman to win too but I won't jinx him for you :lol:

What has he done this time to earn the ban? :lol:

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Nobody likes Stepanek over Malisse? From what I read, Malisse had problems putting Santoro away.

I hate betting on Stepanek though. His face scares me.

Malisse eats serve-volleyers alive...

olix
03-13-2006, 11:37 AM
Malisse didn't have problems, Santoro was just lucky to convert 100% of his break chances. He was also a break up in the third but I had no doubts whatsoever that Malisse would win.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:48 AM
Got leans on most matches but I don't think I'm confident enough to hit any to be honest.

Andre♥
03-13-2006, 11:59 AM
Got leans on most matches but I don't think I'm confident enough to hit any to be honest.

Like yesterday when you got Verdasco and Srichaphan correct but zero profict from that...

Jez, you're a great tennis better, you just need a little more confidence. If you have some leans, post them here! Then, some other betters like me can tell our opinion.

I only went for a parlay for now: Nieminen x Ancic x Hewitt. Pretty safe in my opinion.

Haas, Henman, Kiefer and Grosjean should win too. I'm just getting some guts to do another parlay or single bets.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 12:06 PM
Well I'm looking at doing a double of Roddick x Ljubicic @ 1.70

Should be safe. Verdasco is dangerous but nothing more than that. Roddick has a brilliant record vs lefthanders so that is a further point in his favour.

Ljubo's serve should be too strong to allow Monfils to get ahead.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 12:14 PM
Like yesterday when you got Verdasco and Srichaphan correct but zero profict from that...

Jez, you're a great tennis better, you just need a little more confidence. If you have some leans, post them here! Then, some other betters like me can tell our opinion.

I only went for a parlay for now: Nieminen x Ancic x Hewitt. Pretty safe in my opinion.

Haas, Henman, Kiefer and Grosjean should win too. I'm just getting some guts to do another parlay or single bets.

:lol: Yeah I have some confidence issues.

I'll post my leans but I don't think it will change things much! Nothing really screams out. Just the larger odds:

Henman over Berdych @ 1.83 - Berdych has lost to 2 serve-volleyers already this year...hit and miss player and clearly struggles to "hit" when going for passing shots. However, has the ability to hit huge return winners...and this is Henman :rolleyes:

Nieminen over Kohlschreiber - Nieminen in brilliant form this year but Kohlschreiber playing well. German also has a reasonable record vs lefthanders

Soderling over Andreev - Andreev still has issues with the hardcourts whilst Soderling is cruising right now. He also has a good record in USA and beat Andreev on clay a few years ago, so rallies may not be a problem for him.

Srichaphan over Ferrero - again, h2h means little at times. The Thai is hitting good form whilst Ferrero continues to struggle.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 12:16 PM
Can anyone confirm for me....how does the court play? Thanks

Andre♥
03-13-2006, 12:23 PM
Henman over Berdych @ 1.83 - Berdych has lost to 2 serve-volleyers already this year...hit and miss player and clearly struggles to "hit" when going for passing shots. However, has the ability to hit huge return winners...and this is Henman :rolleyes:


I agree. Henman should win this. The wind is very strong and Henman and his experience will lead with it better, while Berdych's first serve will not enter.

Nieminen over Kohlschreiber - Nieminen in brilliant form this year but Kohlschreiber playing well. German also has a reasonable record vs lefthanders

Nieminen for sure, in my opinion. Nieminen beated Mayer who took a set on Hewitt. Kohlschreiber got destroyed 6:2 6:0 by Hewitt. Nieminen is in great shape and Kohlschreiber's serve is breakable.

Soderling over Andreev - Andreev still has issues with the hardcourts whilst Soderling is cruising right now. He also has a good record in USA and beat Andreev on clay a few years ago, so rallies may not be a problem for him.

Soderling is playing really good and Andreev is pretty irregular. In low stakes, this may be a good bet.

Srichaphan over Ferrero - again, h2h means little at times. The Thai is hitting good form whilst Ferrero continues to struggle.

50/50 game, in my opinion. No bet for me, here.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 12:26 PM
Thanks for your input Sylvester ;) :yeah:

I have certainly sidelined Ljubicic and Nieminen...and Roddick won't lose to Verdasco this time I'm sure.

I really like Soderling to take out Andreev...but I'm a little worried about how quickly Tursunov was taken apart after the first set yesterday.

JMG
03-13-2006, 12:29 PM
I start with Kiefer over Mathieu @1.55 :yeah:

coup-du-cobra
03-13-2006, 12:30 PM
T. Henman oVer T Berdych @1.83
R Soderling oVer I Andreev @1.72
M Safin oVer N Davydenko @1.57

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 12:35 PM
Now I'm really worried about a bandwagon! :lol:

I'm thinking Soderling is maybe more likely to win than Henman

bad gambler
03-13-2006, 12:38 PM
Can I ask why? I thought Berdych was an up and comer, and Henman is past it. Though he does seem to have some kind of new found glory since he's no longer considered to be carrying the hopes of the UK on his shoulders.


There is really a couple of things:

-MOst important is form, Berdman since he got schooled in Adelaide by X has been disappointing, Henman (who I had written off after his performance against Tursy at AO) seems to have gotten a second wind about him, he is playing much better than he was this time last year and that says a lot given you know he still isn't 100% in terms of his back
- It's supposed to be quite windy at IW, especially in the mornings/early afternoon hence patience will be a major factor. Give me the old head 10 times out of 10 in that scenario.

For that reason I am really tempted to pull the trigger on the Italian Stallion at $3.40 against Ancic...

Andre♥
03-13-2006, 12:39 PM
Btw I like Davydenko over Safin @2.34. Safin beated Davydenko in Dubai, but it was in the first round. Then Safin was defeated by Ollie Rochus in the 2nd round.
Safin defeated Delic in the 1st round and an out of hardcourt-shape Moya in the 2nd round. I don't think Safin will be in 100% in a third round. Davydenko only had to play Murray and beated him. I rate Murray over Safin right now in these conditions (and I hate Murray), so I believe Davydenko will get the win these time because of three things:

1. He wants revenge
2. Safin won't be at 100%
3. Davy is pretty regular in big tournaments

And at 2.34 I believe it's a good bet.

bad gambler
03-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Also taking the following:

Soderling to beat Andreev - $1.70

Robredo to beat Blake - $2.30

gl

Mistaflava
03-13-2006, 01:14 PM
Round 2: Monday, March 13, 2006



Nicolas Kiefer 1.66 over Paul-Henri Mathieu ($1500 to win $990)
For anyone who follows tennis, which we know some oddsmakers don't, you know very well like I do that PHM was done like dinner against Andreas Seppi. The rain forced the match to be postponed with Mathieu down a set and a break in the 2nd. Play resumed the next morning and Mathieur blew Seppi right out of the tournament. Not fair but that's life. Kiefer on the other hand has not played since his first round win over Sargsian in Las Vegas. Kiwi had to withdraw from the tournament because of an injury but it almost seems like he was more eager to get to Indian Wells and be rested for the TMS Series. Kiefer has had a decent year so far, highlighted by his semi-final appearance at the Aussie Open. It seems like Kiefer was born to play in big tournaments. His run at the Aussie Open was impressive to say the least and I was happy to see that he managed to bother Roger Federer. PHM on the other hand is coming off that cheap win over Seppi and even before that, he had some bad losses on the hardcourts earlier in the year which for the time being makes him a fade on the surface. Kiefer does not have the best of records in the TMS Series but I have faith that if he doesn't feel 100% during the match, he will retire and save us some money. This is definitely Kiefer's best surface and I see him winning this in two sets.




Round 3: Monday, March 13, 2006



Tommy Haas 1.65 over Andre Agassi ($500 to win $325)
I know a lot of people are going to be on Agassi in this match because it's rare that you can get him at such good odds and it looks tasty because he is 6-1 lifetime against Haas but these two have not played against each other since 2004. That was then, this is now and Haas is on fire. Agassi had problems with Goldstein in Round 1 of this tournament and prior to that has lost four of his last 10 matches. Even his performance at Delray Beach was less than impressive as he struggled to beat Delgado and Mello before losing to GG Lopez in the quarter-finals. Pathetic. I mean since the US Open last year, Andre has not done anything special and losing to guys like Phau and Lopez is almost as bad as it gets. If Agassi can't beat some of the most average players in the game and if he struggled against Goldstein, I think Haas is going to blow him right out of the tournament. Tommy is coming off wins in Delray Beach and Memphis and has lost only once in his last 10 matches and that was in DC play against Gasquet. Haas had a few problems in Round 1 against Clement, but he regained his form in the 3rd set and polished off the frenchie with ease. His only recent loss on hardcourts was against Roger Federer at the Aussie Open and even there, he took Feds to five sets and put on an incredible show for the fans. Haas is ready to take Agassi out for the first time since July 12, 2004 in Los Angeles. We are back in California and Haas will win this match.



:eek:

Corey Feldman
03-13-2006, 01:34 PM
Round 3: Monday, March 13, 2006



Tommy Haas 1.65 over Andre Agassi ($500 to win $325)
I know a lot of people are going to be on Agassi in this match because it's rare that you can get him at such good odds and it looks tasty because he is 6-1 lifetime against Haas but these two have not played against each other since 2004. That was then, this is now and Haas is on fire. 2004 in Los Angeles. We are back in California and Haas will win this match.
Agassi is 6-3 v Haas ..

Corey Feldman
03-13-2006, 01:44 PM
i like malisse over stepanek @1.9 great odds... radek cannot do the business when he plays anywhere in USA, complete opposit of xavier, and malisse can eat up Serve volleyers when he's on his game as shown with 2-0 record v Henman in slams and previous win over radek indoors in Lyon a few years ago.
Haas over Agassi, he's too good for old andre
davydenks over safin.. safin still building up his form/fitness, no repeat of dubai for me here
PHM over kiefer.. kiwi struggling with everything since AO.. form/fitness/brain.
soderling over andreev... not very sure about this, andreev can be unpredictable and beat robin at wimbledon last year.
kohly over nieminen... probably 50/50 match for me, and @2.75 for kohly win is very tempting considering some of his form lately.

robredo over blake @2.37 , tommy spanked james with ease at the AO and shoulda had a 2-0 set lead v him at the US Open last year but for a choke, seems to like blakey's game.

think i'll take Malisse today.

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 01:53 PM
Kiefer to beat PHM: @1.665
As long as regular Kiefer shows up he should beat PHM in straights. Injured Kiefer or Kiefer that gives up and doesnt care will lose.

Nalbandian x Grosjean x Nieminen to beat Benneteau, Vliegen, Kohlschreiber @2.80
Benneteau had problems with Chela and had tough matches in qualifying. Don't think he will handle Nalbandian's consistentcy.

Vliegen dropped a set to Burgsmuller and the match as a whole was pretty tight. Grosjean is a vetern that performs well in many big events.

Kohlschrieber had a tough match with serra but blew away the fading Ferrer. He will have to deal with Nieminen who is a true competitor. Don't see him getting past this one.

Effka
03-13-2006, 02:03 PM
I've got a nice parlay

Groenefeld @1.5,
Ljubicic@1.3,
Haas@1.7
and Baghdatis@2 ( :eek: )
= @6.63

I think I'm only a bit anxious about Haas, the other three should be a ride down the hill i guess. I had a long break in betting. But when i saw Baghdaddy@2 against Gaudio i just couldn't resist :cool:

sports freak
03-13-2006, 02:10 PM
i like malisse over stepanek @1.9 great odds... radek cannot do the business when he plays anywhere in USA, complete opposit of xavier, and malisse can eat up Serve volleyers when he's on his game as shown with 2-0 record v Henman in slams and previous win over radek indoors in Lyon a few years ago.
Haas over Agassi, he's too good for old andre
davydenks over safin.. safin still building up his form/fitness, no repeat of dubai for me here
PHM over kiefer.. kiwi struggling with everything since AO.. form/fitness/brain.
soderling over andreev... not very sure about this, andreev can be unpredictable and beat robin at wimbledon last year.
kohly over nieminen... probably 50/50 match for me, and @2.75 for kohly win is very tempting considering some of his form lately.

robredo over blake @2.37 , tommy spanked james with ease at the AO and shoulda had a 2-0 set lead v him at the US Open last year but for a choke, seems to like blakey's game.

think i'll take Malisse today.


Good luck mate,could not agree more with ur pics,solid champ!!!!

sports freak
03-13-2006, 02:15 PM
A few nice matches,hopefully cash in the pocket!!!!

30 units on X-man Malisse 1.85 over Radek Stepanek- X-man has got way more talent,hopefully it prevails!!!

30 units on Tommy Haas 1.53/Mario Ancic @ 2.09 over Andre Agassi/David Sanguinetti- Lets the youth prevail!!!

Other leans on Soderling/Henman/Special K/Thai Tiger/Robredo!!!!!!

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 02:19 PM
Kiefer to beat PHM: @1.665
As long as regular Kiefer shows up he should beat PHM in straights. Injured Kiefer or Kiefer that gives up and doesnt care will lose.

Nalbandian x Grosjean x Nieminen to beat Benneteau, Vliegen, Kohlschreiber @2.80
Benneteau had problems with Chela and had tough matches in qualifying. Don't think he will handle Nalbandian's consistentcy.

Vliegen dropped a set to Burgsmuller and the match as a whole was pretty tight. Grosjean is a vetern that performs well in many big events.

Kohlschrieber had a tough match with serra but blew away the fading Ferrer. He will have to deal with Nieminen who is a true competitor. Don't see him getting past this one.

If one of the two above win I'm taking Haas over Agassi assuming odds are still over 1.5.

Haas did struggle against Clement but overall he's a much better player at the moment. Agassi has had bad recent loses to GGL, Phau, and was starting a bad 3rd set against Goldstein before play got interrupted. Dr. Dre will lose to Haas in 2 or 3 because he's just not the same!

olix
03-13-2006, 03:13 PM
Myskina over Safina (0:2 HC) @ 1.80

Anastasia's serve is back to normal, no more 45% first serve, no more 7-8 double faults, so it should cope with Safina's good serve.
Having said that, Myskina's game should take care of the rest.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 03:19 PM
- It's supposed to be quite windy at IW, especially in the mornings/early afternoon hence patience will be a major factor. Give me the old head 10 times out of 10 in that scenario.

For that reason I am really tempted to pull the trigger on the Italian Stallion at $3.40 against Ancic...

Although I think Henman will win, if it is windy, he really struggles ;)

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 03:29 PM
I personally would stay away from Henman. He should win but it'll be a close one.

Berdych's loses this year to S&Vers have all close.. coulda swung the other way with the right points.

- Step 7-5, 6-4
- Dent 6-4, 7-5

Henman blew away Young in the 2nd set but struggled against Young badly in the first.. down several break pts but Young's inexperience couldn't convert the break. Henman then converted his only BP late in the set, and ran from that. Again probably because of Young's inexperience. So this one bad match alone makes me weary if Henman is really on this week.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 03:40 PM
I personally would stay away from Henman. He should win but it'll be a close one.

Berdych's loses this year to S&Vers have all close.. coulda swung the other way with the right points.

- Step 7-5, 6-4
- Dent 6-4, 7-5

Henman blew away Young in the 2nd set but struggled against Young badly in the first.. down several break pts but Young's inexperience couldn't convert the break. Henman then converted his only BP late in the set, and ran from that. Again probably because of Young's inexperience. So this one bad match alone makes me weary if Henman is really on this week.

I agree with what you say in part. This match is not to be betted on if you are short of confidence or cash!

The nature of Berdych's game and the way it matches up with serve-volleyers means he won't be beaten easily so the above scores are irrelevant ;)

There is a danger to read too much into match stats. Henman did just as required against Young...the American was NEVER going to beat him and Henman has concentration problems in such matches. Besides, Young is relatively talented so he wasn't going to ace him off the court or anything.

If it is windy, that will work more in Berdych's favour as Henman gets annoyed and his ball toss gets messed up.

dbnumberone
03-13-2006, 03:48 PM
I'm going w/ a rare dog to start...
Bet to win a unit on Hrbaty (+128)
I don't get why he's a dog against Gasquet, who's done nothing all year - Hrbaty just took down Bracciali in ssets, who had a couple nice ws, & am just going to go w/ experience here - the surface should suit Hrbaty better as well.
GL all

jackieglover
03-13-2006, 03:50 PM
I'm going w/ a rare dog to start...
Bet to win a unit on Hrbaty (+128)
I don't get why he's a dog against Gasquet, who's done nothing all year - Hrbaty just took down Bracciali in ssets, who had a couple nice ws, & am just going to go w/ experience here - the surface should suit Hrbaty better as well.
GL all

A dog? :p Good luck dbnumberone. :yeah:

dbnumberone
03-13-2006, 03:53 PM
A dog? :p Good luck dbnumberone. :yeah:

WOOF! :)

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 03:54 PM
WOOF! :)

Nice to see ya mix it up a bit. :p

Freeze17171
03-13-2006, 04:03 PM
I have one more play...

My life savings on Baghdatis (-183), down with Gaston!

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 04:04 PM
I have one more play...

My life savings on Baghdatis (-183), down with Gaston!

Yep I'm definitely taking that but they play tomorrow.

Freeze17171
03-13-2006, 04:07 PM
Haha, whoops, got a little to excited...

Andre♥
03-13-2006, 04:19 PM
Okay, I'm gonna go for some major chalk as follows:

Roddick x Ljubo (latter players tomorrow) @ 1.70 - high stakes

Soderling @ 1.72 - low stakes

Also like Malisse but I'm concerned with that foot injury

According to today's OOP, Roddick plays today (22:30 probably - our time)

dbnumberone
03-13-2006, 04:20 PM
Yep I'm definitely taking that but they play tomorrow.

Yikes, so does Hrbaty, back to the drawing board...(that bets down though)
Let's see...my 2nd choice was...
Bet to win a unit on Kiefer
Those odds jumped out at me, I guess b/c of the unknown extent of Kiefer's injury w/d last tourney - betting here that him being in the tourney period means he's ok
GL to us Twist, Flava & whoever else is on kiwi!

Andre♥
03-13-2006, 04:24 PM
The good thing about Kiefer is that if he's not ok, he retires or doesn't even show up...

fisherking
03-13-2006, 04:25 PM
Kiefer - Mathieu
No one convince me to put a cent on that game. German, who withdrew from his last tournament and Frenchman who is - in my eyes and excluding Russians - the most incostatnt, inconsistent player in the whole circus.

Sanguintetti - Ancic
Two weeks ago, in Vegas, Karlovic showed Sangu what means The Croatian Art Of Service. Time to deja'vu. But i don't back odds below 1.60.

Schuettler - Hewitt
Two players with very similar style of play. But who is better than Lleyton in defensive play. Maybe somebody is or will become... (Murray, Monfils). But not Schuettler. See above - 1.214, no thanks.

Malisse - Stepanek
A toss of coin. And gambling is occupation. There is no place for good luck or bad luck. It might be a 3-setter. In-play??

Vliegen - Grosjean
3.000 on Vliegen is tempting. But...

Nalbandian - Benneteau
Bandy should be #1. If only he wouldn't be such a mental muppet. Never bet on him when he is a fav.

Srichaphan - Ferrero (1.730)
Next player who's rank should be much better if only he wouldn't be muppet. But odds much better. 6 units on Spaniard.

Kohlschraiber (2.660) - Nieminen
6 units.

Safin - Davydenko
2 Russians on court. LOL.

Agassi - Haas (1.575)
There are only few players who can beat Haas this year. And Agassi isn't one of them. 7 units.

Robredo - Blake
Looks like James start to play good tennis again. But Robredo was always able to trouble him. No bet.

Soderling - Andreev (2.260)
Igor loves to play ahgainst serve-bombers. 6 units.

Roddick - Verdasco (3.400)
Roddick and his Curse. Besides, Roddick and Lefty. 3 units.

good luck

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 04:26 PM
Okay - I'm starting again because I messed up! Taking:

Roddick x Ljubicic @ 1.70 - high stakes

Malisse x Hewitt @ 2.38 - low stakes

Depending on how Malisse goes, I'd like to hit Soderling also.

Analysis: http://www.triplethreatsports777.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2583
Good luck! :yeah:

Other possible winners to look out for - Kiefer, Blake and Henman

jackieglover
03-13-2006, 04:26 PM
Round 2: Monday, March 13, 2006



Nicolas Kiefer 1.66 over Paul-Henri Mathieu ($1660 to win $1000)

Tommy Haas 1.65 over Andre Agassi ($500 to win $325)



:eek:

Is it just me or do these two bets not make sense. Wouldn't you only need to bet $1500 to win $1000 at odds of 1.66? And a $500 bet at odds of 1.65 would return $333 :confused:

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 04:27 PM
The good thing about Kiefer is that if he's not ok, he retires or doesn't even show up...

:lol:

Andre♥
03-13-2006, 04:33 PM
Well, it's true... :)

I'm so confident today that I even made WTA parlays! Including Dementieva!

OMG, I'm insane... :smash:

Anders
03-13-2006, 04:37 PM
YTD: 64-65 +38.43 units

WTD: 6-8 -1.53 units

Indian Wells


Kiefer -146 o PHM (1 unit)
Malisse -115 o Stepanek (1)
Robredo +141 o Blake (1)
Verdasco +240 o Roddick (1)

Parlay: Haas/Soderling +173 (1)

GL all

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 04:43 PM
The good thing about Kiefer is that if he's not ok, he retires or doesn't even show up...

Yep! Keifer has withdrawn from a "headache" before.. I forget which tournament that was.

flmmkrz
03-13-2006, 05:38 PM
was just checking odds at a few of the books I use and one of them has the arod match odds backwards. So im on arod and verdasco @ 3.2, im sure the one will get voided but the one with the mistakes max is only a unit anyway so its like a unit play on verdasco for me, and if it doesnt get voided its a good day for me :p

fisherking
03-13-2006, 06:14 PM
congrats 2U all, who backed Mallise, as i said i was off...
and he crushed the Beuty One...

sometimes i should listen what the others say ;)

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 06:15 PM
Wow malisse was the easiest pick of the day.. Grats on malisse backers :lol:

coup3z
03-13-2006, 06:40 PM
Agassi - Haas 2-1 @ 5,7 easy money ;)

Mistaflava
03-13-2006, 06:58 PM
Is it just me or do these two bets not make sense. Wouldn't you only need to bet $1500 to win $1000 at odds of 1.66? And a $500 bet at odds of 1.65 would return $333 :confused:


It was a mistake on my part

betowiec
03-13-2006, 08:15 PM
$450 on Arod at 1.32

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 08:34 PM
$450 on Arod at 1.32

Man you're brave :haha:

...especially when I hit it too :devil:

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 09:08 PM
Malisse x Hewitt @ 2.38 - low stakes

My thanks to X-Man and Hewitt...what a performance by X-Man! Never thought it would be such a rout :eek: :haha:

Poor capping on my part to put Hewitt in there..nearly paid the price. But I'll take a win right now :lol:

dbnumberone
03-13-2006, 09:09 PM
adding...
bet to win a unit on jarkko
not looking good on kiefer, dumb of me to bet on a guy first match after retirement, thppt

TwistyServe
03-13-2006, 09:18 PM
Lose another TB...

Need Bandy and Neiminin to come off to finish the parlay, and save the day!

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 09:21 PM
...I'm chickening out of Soderling vs Andreev. Had enough drama for one day and that is a pretty even match-up to be honest. I know Tursunov is streaky, but that was one major good finish by Igor the other day to concede just 3 games in the final 2 sets. Makes me think twice.

flmmkrz
03-13-2006, 10:39 PM
was just checking odds at a few of the books I use and one of them has the arod match odds backwards. So im on arod and verdasco @ 3.2, im sure the one will get voided but the one with the mistakes max is only a unit anyway so its like a unit play on verdasco for me, and if it doesnt get voided its a good day for me :p

and it got voided. :(

dbnumberone
03-13-2006, 10:44 PM
Poor capping on my part to put Hewitt in there..nearly paid the price. But I'll take a win right now :lol:

No way! You thought Hewitt would win, & he won, who cares if it was a bit close - that's why you pay the premium b/c the better player is more likely to pull it out if it does happen to go 3 (which is one reason I rarely set bet) *good* capping, congrats

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 10:56 PM
been away more than I'd want cos I have won the odd fifty the couple of times I've posted so far

missed out on berdych, got him at 1.12 in the end, was a dead cert when I bet on him, if there ever is such a thing.

im liking ferrero over srichapahan at 1.72. I believe Srichaphan will have to produce his best performance of the year to beat Ferrero.

Will he do that? I doubt it.

If he shows up, Ferrero for me.

I will bet £50 on it

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 10:58 PM
i have placed plenty of big bets in my time but now believe i should make a grand before i spend it. i usually make a grand out of 50-100 every month to three months when i get on a streak, but lately i haven't been able to give it my full committment. so no-one jump on the ferrero bandwagon now. please. lol

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 11:03 PM
i have got 11,14,27, even 32 selections right in tennis bets before.

i must be the most unlucky punter in the world!

i always end up losing a lot of money when i get too confident or confused after usually making about 1-2k.

and as a devoted and not sure if he's proud about it gambler I'm not ashamed to say overall, I have not broken even through gambling!

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 11:04 PM
but times are due for a change! yeah!

why has no-one talked about ferrero? im not too sure about being a lone ranger on this one.

Freeze17171
03-13-2006, 11:21 PM
Ferrero is too inconsistent right now so a lot of betters don't have much faith backing him.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:24 PM
and it got voided. :(

:lol: Nice try mate...I never succeed either ;)

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:25 PM
No way! You thought Hewitt would win, & he won, who cares if it was a bit close - that's why you pay the premium b/c the better player is more likely to pull it out if it does happen to go 3 (which is one reason I rarely set bet) *good* capping, congrats

Lol thanks...but you have to also look at it the other way. If Hewitt had lost, I would have felt awful. Rainer got much closer than many of us would have imagined. :scared:

Freeze17171
03-13-2006, 11:27 PM
Yeah, I actually prefer when the matches are on the other side of the world, so I place my bets before sleeping, and when I wake up the scores are already set it stone. No sweating things out live.

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:29 PM
but times are due for a change! yeah!

why has no-one talked about ferrero? im not too sure about being a lone ranger on this one.

Ferrero is more consistent at the back of the court but Para plays high octane tennis. He can match Ferrero for much of the match I'm sure, and JCF obviously can't have been doing all that well to almost lose to Spadea :help: H2h has meant little over the last week, and means little these days anyway as the players are so closely matched apart from #1 & 2.

If I were to put any money on the match, it would go on Para...it looks like it could be close.

...and would you please read the thread. ;) I know that I dealt with this match previously, and I'm sure a few others touched on it

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I actually prefer when the matches are on the other side of the world, so I place my bets before sleeping, and when I wake up the scores are already set it stone. No sweating things out live.

Yeah I agree...except I have little self - discipline :lol:

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 11:36 PM
Jez

I suggest Srichaphan would also have struggled to produce against Spadea right now. I also think Ferrero would not lose to Parmar right now. That sticks in my mind. I do know that Srichaphan on his day is a match for Ferrero but only if he produces a good performance.

I think the odds are generous but I will search for better opportunities. You talked me out of betting on Saretta to beat Ferrero and now I feel I can't bet on it cos I'll feel jinxed by you if I lose.

What shall I do? On a lighter note, has anyone ever found themselves in such a predicament after initially feeling confident about a pick? only playin

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 11:39 PM
im gonna bet on srichaphan. lol

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:43 PM
Jez

I suggest Srichaphan would also have struggled to produce against Spadea right now. I also think Ferrero would not lose to Parmar right now. That sticks in my mind. I do know that Srichaphan on his day is a match for Ferrero but only if he produces a good performance.

Well Spadea is tough so maybe. As to Ferrero, you have to look at the match-up. Ferrero wouldn't have lost to Parmar...but Para wasn't a shock as he can't play serve-volleyers. Your third sentence answers your question ;)

I think the odds are generous but I will search for better opportunities. You talked me out of betting on Saretta to beat Ferrero and now I feel I can't bet on it cos I'll feel jinxed by you if I lose.

The odds have been generous on many matches this week...if you're not sure, wait for a match-up you feel you cannot lose on ;)

:lol: Rubbish. I only provided the other side of the coin for you...obviously I gave you good enough reason to stay away...not my fault ;)

What shall I do? On a lighter note, has anyone ever found themselves in such a predicament after initially feeling confident about a pick? only playin

If you're not sure...leave it. Baggy over Gaudio looks decent for tomorrow...and that is just 1 bet ;)

Yep - I'm struggling majorly with my confidence. I have good tipping abilities but I seem to bet the matches that lose. I was hugely confident in my big play on Roddick x Ljubo but now I'm starting to feel :scared:

Horatio Caine
03-13-2006, 11:43 PM
im gonna bet on srichaphan. lol

:haha:

Oh man you're scaring me. Please stay off the match ;)

fisherking
03-13-2006, 11:49 PM
i wonder how many breaks would be in Dementieva - Nalbandian game? Any opinion ;)

epic tb in Andreev - Soda game; c'mon Igor

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 11:53 PM
how much did you lose on that match? the most i have ever lost on a bet is £800.

i2ooney
03-13-2006, 11:55 PM
btw, i have bet £50 on ferrero. he will win.

Freeze17171
03-13-2006, 11:56 PM
I thought the Kiefer match was bad, and then Robin Soderling came along and sucker punched me in the gut 9 times.

Horatio Caine
03-14-2006, 12:00 AM
btw, i have bet £50 on ferrero. he will win.

Well I hope he does for your sake but you didn't sound too confident :lol:

Horatio Caine
03-14-2006, 12:01 AM
I thought the Kiefer match was bad, and then Robin Soderling came along and sucker punched me in the gut 9 times.

That is nothing short of incredible...I feel sorry for you right now. Very tough to take.

He might still come back...Andreev isn't the cleanest at finishing ;)

Freeze17171
03-14-2006, 12:04 AM
Thanks, but that is what makes gambling/sports exciting. He's still got a set to work with too. :)

TwistyServe
03-14-2006, 12:07 AM
Kiefer to beat PHM: @1.665

Nalbandian x Grosjean x Nieminen to beat Benneteau, Vliegen, Kohlschreiber @2.80
.


Kiefer loses

Big Triple wins..

result for the day is even.. wish I woulda hit the tripple with more but I'm afraid of anything over 2.2... Hell I've been hitting triple parlays successfully all weekend , i need to do this more often

TwistyServe
03-14-2006, 12:09 AM
Add:

Medium play on Haas to beat Dre @1.55

Haas has been solid all year long.. Dre is on his way to retirement.. As much as I'm an Agassi fan, I think the odds favor Haas.

dbnumberone
03-14-2006, 12:19 AM
Add:

Medium play on Haas to beat Dre @1.55

Haas has been solid all year long.. Dre is on his way to retirement.. As much as I'm an Agassi fan, I think the odds favor Haas.

I'd bet Haas, but my heart says no - I want to watch the match & root for Dre :)
I'll take solace if dre loses that you won your bet twisty - gl

fisherking
03-14-2006, 12:31 AM
I'd bet Haas, but my heart says no - I want to watch the match & root for Dre :)

don't mix business with emotions ;)

Freeze17171
03-14-2006, 12:38 AM
Very fitting title of this thread. :sad:

bad gambler
03-14-2006, 12:45 AM
You can now add Soderling with Verdasco as the fruitcakes of the tour, unbelievable how he blew that 2nd set TB

bad gambler
03-14-2006, 12:46 AM
Well it does not seem Timmy's price is going to rise anymore..


Henman to beat Berdych - $1.95


gl





Bet lost

bad gambler
03-14-2006, 12:48 AM
Very fitting title of this thread. :sad:


shame I couldn't see into the future with respect to picking some winners :o

andye
03-14-2006, 12:58 AM
You can now add Soderling with Verdasco as the fruitcakes of the tour, unbelievable how he blew that 2nd set TB


I dont think he lost. I have a feeling they were both " winners."

dbnumberone
03-14-2006, 01:04 AM
don't mix business with emotions ;)
:)
I hear ya - that's why I'm not betting on andre :devil:

bad gambler
03-14-2006, 01:06 AM
I didn't get a chance to see Agassi's match yesterday, only the "incident" on highlights - did he really play that badly as everyone makes it out to be? Because it was not as if Haas had a clean match against Clement, 9 DF's included.

Bolar Bolabi
03-14-2006, 01:48 AM
EDIT: This winner will be dedicated to our dearly departed aussie who is currently serving a ban from posting here in the gamblers lounge.

Who?

Bolar Bolabi
03-14-2006, 01:58 AM
Haas over Agassi = $$$$$

betowiec
03-14-2006, 03:11 AM
$450 on Arod at 1.32


business as "usual" for Andy :D

fisherking
03-14-2006, 03:31 AM
i never thought i would say it but Agassi choked :eek:
He was serving for set, led 40-15 and was broken...

TwistyServe
03-14-2006, 03:53 AM
i never thought i would say it but Agassi choked :eek:
He was serving for set, led 40-15 and was broken...

Dont really think Agassi choked it.. Haas hit some big winners to save those SPs.

dbnumberone
03-14-2006, 04:15 AM
congrats haas backers
i lost a rare vchip bet on dre :)
very fun match to follow

as for next rd., got my eye on safin - 2 good ws v. jark, who couldn't hold serve today - we'll see

TwistyServe
03-14-2006, 04:35 AM
Kiefer to beat PHM @1.665

Nalbandian x Grosjean x Nieminen to beat Benn, Vliegen, Kohls @2.80

Haas to beat Dre @1.55



Haas brings in the profits today!

2 Wins
1 Lost

bad gambler
03-14-2006, 05:07 AM
Also taking the following:

Soderling to beat Andreev - $1.70

Robredo to beat Blake - $2.30

gl


All lost, feel pissed off about Soders but hey got to roll with the punches, shit like that will happen from time to time - just hope the tennis gods have got one ready for me to even up the scales.

lets get them tomorrow.

sports freak
03-14-2006, 05:41 AM
A few nice matches,hopefully cash in the pocket!!!!

30 units on X-man Malisse 1.85 over Radek Stepanek- X-man has got way more talent,hopefully it prevails!!!

30 units on Tommy Haas 1.53/Mario Ancic @ 2.09 over Andre Agassi/David Sanguinetti- Lets the youth prevail!!!

Other leans on Soderling/Henman/Special K/Thai Tiger/Robredo!!!!!!

2-0 today!!! X-man i believe will break the top 10 sooner then later IMO

Freeze17171
03-14-2006, 05:59 AM
At least my orginal play Blake and Paradorn came through. Kinda eases the sting of Kiefer and Soderling.

Horatio Caine
03-14-2006, 09:28 AM
If I were to put any money on the match, it would go on Para...it looks like it could be close.

I love Paradorn...no one believes in him these days :lol:

However he won't beat Bandy :devil:

i2ooney
03-14-2006, 09:50 AM
well done Jez. I should have left it. I regretted it as soon as I placed the bet! what was I thinking, backing Ferrero right now?