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Spreen to join Team Roddick

bwguy
12-07-2003, 12:39 PM
Team Roddick

Andy Roddick of Boca Raton, who last year made the coaching change that started him toward his first Grand Slam title (U.S. Open) and No. 1 in the world, isn't treading water this off-season.

He'll soon announce that Doug Spreen has quit his job as No. 1 trainer for the ATP tour and joined the Roddick team. Spreen is a major addition to the Roddick group and had already reached a high level of respect when, in 2000, he played a key role in helping Pete Sampras overcome tendonitis in his shin to win his record 13th major at Wimbledon.

Spreen's job will be to integrate a fitness program with weekly medical care and training advice for Roddick. He's a graduate of Indiana University who worked three years training for the Cincinnati Reds before joining men's tennis. He'll continue living in Cincinnati.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-tencol07dec07,0,482896.story?coll=sfla-sports-headlines

star
12-07-2003, 12:53 PM
I liked that last part. "He'll continue living in Cinncinatti."

I guess that means it's his voting residence. :)

Andy has said that he has a trainer living with him now, so I guess this is the one. I do think that Andy needs to work a great deal on fitness and movement.

Scotso
12-07-2003, 02:08 PM
WHY

star
12-07-2003, 02:12 PM
Why what?

Deboogle!.
12-07-2003, 02:18 PM
WOW... quit his job with the ATP to work for Andy? :eek:

well this is good, heading in the right direction!

Experimentee
12-07-2003, 02:28 PM
It seems a bit weird to just quit working on ATP players just to concentrate on Andy :rolleyes:
He must be getting paid a lot to do that.

star
12-07-2003, 02:34 PM
It seems a bit weird to just quit working on ATP players just to concentrate on Andy :rolleyes:
He must be getting paid a lot to do that.

Of course he's being paid a lot. This isn't the first time this has happened. That guy who was the head trainer for the longest time also quit to work for a player. Several of the players have full time fitness trainers on their staff.

andylover_16
12-07-2003, 03:11 PM
thats interesting:)

star
12-07-2003, 04:24 PM
Andy travels light. He just has a coach and now this fitness trainer.

Deboogle!.
12-07-2003, 05:23 PM
and his personal PR person Ginger, his sis-in-law (but she probably doesn't actually travel with him)

He strikes me as the type who doesn't want to be surrounded by 197029476206 people anyway

Fee
12-07-2003, 05:54 PM
Wow, this is stunning. Doug Spreen is my hero and I was really looking forward to seeing him next year. I know a number of players on the tour who will be sorry to see him go.

Does this mean that Cicero doesn't work for him any longer? And, in the last year, Andy has traveled less and less light, expecially in the US. He started out with Tarik, Cicero and Ginger (she travels most of the time, but not all) and frequently Tarik's wife. In England, there was Brad, Cicero, Mandy's mom (she was in Europe filming), and for quite a few of the summer tournaments he was joined by assorted members of his family and his agent.

Does this mean I can't start my Doug Spreen fan club?

Kiara
12-07-2003, 06:03 PM
that guy Ken something-or-the-other: the one that sits in front of BG doesnt he travel with him too?

star
12-07-2003, 06:04 PM
I think some of those people you mentioned in your post attend his matches, but they don't travel with him.

I'm was talking about people on Andy's payroll who are working with him at tournaments. I hope the guy has more friends and relatives that come out to see him play. :)

star
12-07-2003, 06:06 PM
As I understand it Ginger does not travel with him regularly. But you know I could be totally wrong about all of this. :)

Just as long as he doesn't get bodyguards. :)

Kiara
12-07-2003, 06:07 PM
i think he's andy's agent or something...dunno...

Fee
12-07-2003, 06:13 PM
i think he's andy's agent or something...dunno...


Yes, Ken Meyerson, the dark haired guy at most of his matches, is the head of Pro Tennis at SFX. But I don't think I've ever seen him at any matches for his other clients (the Bryans, Vahaly, JMG, Paradorn....)

Deboogle!.
12-07-2003, 06:14 PM
As I understand it Ginger does not travel with him regularly. But you know I could be totally wrong about all of this. :)

Just as long as he doesn't get bodyguards. :)

Considering she has a husband and wouldn't really need to be on the road to be able to do publicity for him, I'd doubt it.

Amen on the bodyguards.

His girlfriend's mother does not count as part of his entourage LOL!!!

As for a nutritionist, I doubt he'd need one (though I have a lovely mother who is a registered dietitian and would work for him real cheap ;)) and I think the tournament trainers provide massages and stuff like that. At least that's what I've always understood. If Andy paid all those people he wouldn't have anything left for himself :p

Fee
12-07-2003, 06:21 PM
Cicero was Andy's trainer/masseur (masseuse?) for the past two years. Ginger definitely went to many of his US tournaments with him, I saw her there and so did other people I know. I don't think she went to the whole Europe trip though.

And, the tournaments provide security on site. Not a whole lot of people recognize him outside of his hotel anyway, so I guess he won't be going that far. I don't think even Andre has bodyguards outside of tennis events.

Havok
12-07-2003, 09:43 PM
go Doug Spreen:rocker2:

baseline ace
12-08-2003, 01:04 AM
Good move on Andy's part. He was really tired at the end of the year, and this may help. This is not a first for a top tennis player.

Fee
12-08-2003, 01:20 AM
According to a young woman from Brazil, on another message board. Cicero left Andy after the USO (reasons not given). He was quoted in the Brazilian Tennis magazine. So Andy was in the market for a new trainer.

Now here's my question. I studied to be an athletic trainer (gave up on it because I was a woman and figured jobs would be hard to find...idiot). We studied injuries and prevention, and nutrition, all from a medical fitness type of perspective. We didn't really study physical fitness/exercise type of stuff. I wonder if Doug has studied that on his own.

And I hope the ATP hires somebody really good to help Bill Norris keep an eye on Marat, James, Robby, Mark P. and JMG for me (my injury prone boys...)

J. Corwin
12-08-2003, 01:27 AM
Interesting to see Doug leave the ATP to join Andy's camp. I know he worked "overtime" during this year's USO, and Pam was having a field day commenting on that. We'll see if Andy's growing entourage helps him along the way.

I am curious on why Cicero left Andy and wonder if it was a mutually arrived decision.

Deboogle!.
12-08-2003, 03:51 AM
as long as the feet didn't look those NASTY things you posted in my nice thread ;)

J. Corwin
12-08-2003, 04:55 AM
That pic must be the feet of a corpse to look that bad. ;)

Chloe le Bopper
12-08-2003, 06:10 AM
Ew about the feet...

Hiring a full time fitness trainer dude is a good idea; I'm surprised that he didn't have one before?

Ferrero often travels with one, as far as I know, and Agassi has um... I forgot his name.. the dude he named his kid after? Yeah, that guy ;) Not sure about Fed and Coria.

Dirk
12-08-2003, 07:02 AM
Roger has one. He is that pudgy baldy guy that sits next to Peter. I don't think Andy was tired in the Cup. All the players had an week off to prepare for it. Andy's game was just being put to many severe tests.

Action Jackson
12-08-2003, 07:23 AM
Dirk, the Roddick lovers usually always have excuses ready to forgive the facts that he was outplayed.

Apart from Agassi and perhaps Nalbandian they were all tired.

Roger's fitness trainer name is Pierre and it's Gil Reyes for Agassi.

Tricky_Forehand
12-08-2003, 08:17 AM
This news definitely shocks me. I guess I just always pictured Doug Spreen being the ATP trainer till he retired...lol. Him being a trainer to an individual is a little strange. I do wish it was someone else but Roddick was definitely smart to offer him the job.

Tricky_Forehand
12-08-2003, 08:23 AM
And I hope the ATP hires somebody really good to help Bill Norris keep an eye on Marat, James, Robby, Mark P. and JMG for me (my injury prone boys...)

You could probably add Nicolas Kiefer to that list :) . That boy better stay healthy in 2004 or I'm going to get a major headache from :banghead: LOL.

My other "top guy" doesn't usually get injured. I know if I say his name within the post I'll curse him but if you've looked at my sig then you probably know who it is ;) .

Dirk
12-08-2003, 08:29 AM
Andy fans have nothing to be ashamed of. He played very well. Got 80% of his 1st serves in and played very well until the tiebreaker. Roger just was returning great and kept Andy's ace count low and that made Andy nervous cause his serves kept coming back. His level dropped off in the 2nd set cause he threw his best stuff at Roger in the 1st set and lossed it so naturally he would be really stressed out and his level came down and Roger won. Just be happy Andy fans that this Roger didn't show up at their Montreal semis.

Havok
12-08-2003, 12:58 PM
Andy fans have nothing to be ashamed of. He played very well. Got 80% of his 1st serves in and played very well until the tiebreaker. Roger just was returning great and kept Andy's ace count low and that made Andy nervous cause his serves kept coming back. His level dropped off in the 2nd set cause he threw his best stuff at Roger in the 1st set and lossed it so naturally he would be really stressed out and his level came down and Roger won. Just be happy Andy fans that this Roger didn't show up at their Montreal semis.
because it wasn't the same Andy that showed up at Houston either:wavey: works both ways dude!!!!!!

Deboogle!.
12-08-2003, 02:18 PM
lol Naldo

and I can see why a tour trainer would want to go work for an individual..... I'm sure it gives him more time off b/c he doesn't have to be somewhere almost every week, week in and week out because an individual player at least has weeks off here and there. It sounds like Spreen has a family and I'd imagine it's better for that.

ktwtennis
12-09-2003, 12:00 AM
Um, he'll prolly get a lot better pay and hours compared to being a trainer for the ATP...After all, the ATP trainers really are treated like dirt on the tour...

Dirk
12-09-2003, 12:23 AM
Naldo, Roger was off and on in that Montreal match. Roger was up 4-2 and let Andy in and he won it due to Roger's errors and double faults. Andy was playing very well in that Houston match, Roger just broke him down. Had Roger played similiar to his last match in Montreal Andy never would have won an set. Andy like 99.9 % of the players can't stand toe to toe with Roger when he is on. Tell me in what way was Andy off in the Houston match?

Deboogle!.
12-09-2003, 12:34 AM
he wasn't going for anything, not serving very well (as shown by the high %age), not taking any risks whatsoever

J. Corwin
12-09-2003, 12:40 AM
Andy was lethargic in that match.

tennischick
12-09-2003, 12:51 AM
Duckboy hiring a trainer is not surprising. given the high risk of injury in his service motion plus his tendency to trip over his feet and fall down a lot, hiring a trainer is simply a logical next step.

Doug Spreen's decision to give up his job with the ATP to work with Duckboy is what i find surprising. it suggests a) that he's getting a better pay packet and, b) Duckboy's handlers believe that he has serious earning potential in 2004.

let's wait and see.

Deboogle!.
12-09-2003, 01:03 AM
he had a trainer before, but they're not working together anymore... he just got a new, much higher-profile one.

Havok
12-09-2003, 02:10 AM
i dont know about you but what i got out of the article was that Doug was leaving the ATP tour regardless, and since he left, he was picked up by Andy. and thanks bunk and jackson for explaining to Dirk what i meant:rolleyes: ninja ninja NINJA:drive:
LMFAO:haha:

Deboogle!.
12-09-2003, 02:11 AM
lmfao Naldo

Dirk
12-09-2003, 07:50 AM
You people just can't stand the fact that Andy got outplayed. How can you say he was not serving well and not taking risks. He came to the net serveral times and sometimes put an volley away but also got passed on huge points. So let me get this right, Andy even though he was getting 80% of his first serves in during the 1st set and winning ost of those points he didn't serve well cause he didn't get enough unreturnables and aces? Roger was playing at an much faster pace and as Mary and even Pat Mac were disssecting the match they were saying that Roge's strokes are much smoother and compact and require less time to pull than Andy's big bang game. Its an shame that you don't give credit to other players, Andy sure did.

WyverN
12-09-2003, 09:20 AM
In the first set both players were close to their best, high % first serves and a small number of UEs is all that Andy can be asked to do, how can he play better? It was 7-6 but you could feel Federer was marginally better throughout the first set.

In the second set Federer stayed at the same level while Roddick went down a notch and as a result you get a 6-2.

Dirk
12-09-2003, 09:53 AM
In the first set both players were close to their best, high % first serves and a small UE's is all that Andy can be asked to do. It was 7-6 but you could feel Federer was marginally better throughout the first set.

In the second set Federer stayed at the same level while Roddick went down a notch and as a result you get a 6-2.

So nice to have an voice of reason around here. Oh and it was so nice to see Roger prove once again that it isn't the speed but the placement that is crucial to serving.

J. Corwin
12-09-2003, 12:05 PM
Roger is the better player, but Roger played an Andy who couldn't win shit in TBs. Andy never won a TB post Bjorkman match at Paris Bercy.

Havok
12-09-2003, 01:49 PM
Dirk can you PLEASE show me where i didn't give credit to Federer? please i'm dieing over here. you said that Roger lost that semi in Montreal because it wasn't the same Roger as was in Houston. I just threw the SAME thing right back at you and said it wasn't the same Roddick at Houston that we saw in Montreal. i didn't say Roger didn't deserve the win in houston, he sucks, and so on. all i said was that in Montreal Andy was the better player, and in Houston Roger was the better player. NINJA:drive:
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!:haha::haha::haha:

WyverN
12-09-2003, 03:05 PM
serving very well (as shown by the high %age)

That so doesnt make sense. So 10% of first serves in indicates Roddick is serving great?

I know your implying that Roddick was not going for big serves but that suggests he wasn't trying at all which is ridiculous.

WyverN
12-09-2003, 03:10 PM
I think what is interesting is that a below his best Federer at Montreal playing a Roddick that is playing near his peak still took Andy to 3 tight sets and was really in a position to win that match.

Yet a below par Roddick at Houston (I dont think he was below par especially in the first set) playing a peak Federer got routinely beaten.

Havok
12-09-2003, 03:11 PM
i think bunk ment that Andy having a ridiculous high %age of 1st serves in indicates he wasn`t going for his serves much;shrug: but either way he was still winning them in the 1st set, and then it was only a matter of time that he was gonna lose his service games

Deboogle!.
12-09-2003, 03:12 PM
I didn't say he wasn't trying AT ALL. All I was suggesting, and it's what I believe to have been the case, that he wasn't really going for anything big.

That match was after he was awarded #1, he'd made it to the semis (not a bad feat for his first TMC) and he just wanted to go home. the end was in sight, he didn't have much motivation anymore, so he just sort of went out there and floated around and as he said himself "was looking to scrap out a win" - which of course he should've known doesn't happen against Roger when he's playing well. So he tried to scrap it out in the first set but when he lost the TB he just stopped caring and that was really quite obvious. His holding his nephew in the post-match press conference says that to me even more - he was thinking about his family out there on court, about relaxing and being with them, not about his game and winning the match.

Now I am only using this line of reasoning for THIS particular match, not the other four that Andy has lost against him. NOR am I suggesting that if Andy had shown up full-force (which he didn't at all all week but whatever) that he would've won (because I don't think anyone would've beaten Roger under almost any circumstances that week).

Deboogle!.
12-09-2003, 03:15 PM
I think what is interesting is that a below his best Federer at Montreal playing a Roddick that is playing near his peak still took Andy to 3 tight sets and was really in a position to win that match.

Yet a below par Roddick at Houston (I dont think he was below par especially in the first set) playing a peak Federer got routinely beaten.

What exactly is your point? I'm sure David has beaten Roger before when he (David) wasn't at his best, Henman too probably, Agassi three I bet. I mean all you're saying there is that Andy has trouble with Roger, for whatever reason. Generally that's how one-sided head-to-heads work - for whatever reason it was a difficult matchup for the player on the losing end. So you're only telling us something we clearly obviously know - Andy has trouble beating Roger. thanks for the newsflash.

WyverN
12-09-2003, 03:18 PM
What exactly is your point? I'm sure David has beaten Roger before when he (David) wasn't at his best,

Actually David got cleaned up 6-3 6-0 when he wasn't at his best

Deboogle!.
12-09-2003, 03:20 PM
yes that's when he was at his worst and Roger was at his best, that doesn't change my argument though.

All I'm saying is that a lopsided head-to-head only says one thing: the losing player has a problem beating the winning player. People have posted some freaky enough head-to-heads here in the past few weeks so that it's pretty clear they don't tell much else about either player.

J. Corwin
12-09-2003, 07:29 PM
I think what is interesting is that a below his best Federer at Montreal playing a Roddick that is playing near his peak still took Andy to 3 tight sets and was really in a position to win that match.

Yet a below par Roddick at Houston (I dont think he was below par especially in the first set) playing a peak Federer got routinely beaten.

I didn't point out anything to the contrary. I think almost all Andy fans can agree that Roger is a better player than Andy. Hence the observation in which you find "interesting". But that doesn't mean that Andy was playing well (with respect to his capabilities) in Houston.

Andy still was able to take Roger to a TB, and then lost the TB because Roger was playing better and Andy just loses TBs at that point. Andy lost a lot of intensity in the 2nd set, hence the scoreline of 6-2. It could have been much more competitive. Obviously credit still has to be given to Roger who played spectacular all week.

Again...newsflash alert just in case: I agree that Roger is a better player.
(How many times do I need to repeat so that some of you won't think that I'm claiming anything otherwise?)