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Pete`s photos (1995)

Greg-Pete fan
03-08-2006, 09:21 PM
Wimbledon 1995 (10 pictures).

angiel
03-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Wimbledon 1995 (10 pictures).


This was a great year for him, great photos. :worship: :worship: :D :cool:

Greg-Pete fan
03-10-2006, 06:30 PM
This was a great year for him, great photos. :worship: :worship: :D :cool:

First of all it was very difficult year for him, because of Tim Gullikson cancer, but you are right, he reached final in Australian Open and won Wimbledon and U.S. Open in this year.

Mimi
03-11-2006, 03:30 AM
he should have won the 95 Ao final :mad:

angiel
03-11-2006, 08:05 PM
he should have won the 95 Ao final :mad:


Yep, but it is one of those things..................... :wavey: :angel: :D

the_natural
03-12-2006, 09:25 AM
Well i think that was in all fairness, agassi's time, I mean Agassi Owns pete at the Aus Open, he has never lost to pete there and he got his first GS victory against him there. Andre is one of the greatest players ever, and Sorry to say it but without pete he would have accomplished even greater things than pete did. He would have won the Calendar GS possibly in 99, he would NOT have had such a HUGE slump in 97-98, because at least he woulda known he was the best tennis player in the world if pete werent there, although the marriage was gonna take its toll anyway. He would have won 3 or 4 Wimbledon titles, I think he may have won 5 consecutive if he got the momentum going there. He would also have about 5 maybe 7 USO titles also. And with all the wins at all the majors he could have focussed even more at the French and possibly have won 2 or 3 if he had nothing to focus on winning but that.

With Pete he had to focus on beating Pete as well as being the best he can be. I also Believe Andre Would have been able to gain greater winning streaks on Hard Courts than Pete because his style was to make the opponent work as much as possible and to conserve energy.

And anyway, if pete never beat him in a GS final then people would really say "He had no rivals" (unless Pete won in 5 really close sets, then it wouldnt hurt the legacy as much haha)

angiel
03-13-2006, 05:28 PM
Natural,
You are crazy my friend, Andre could never walk in Pete's shoes, never, he is too strong for him, Andre is too mentally weak also. :wavey: :rolleyes: :D :wavey:

Pete should have won that slam, but the match with Courier, plus his coach getting sick, takes all out of him that year in Melbourne. :wavey: :wavey: :angel:

the_natural
03-15-2006, 12:14 PM
Well Pete believes in destiny as do i, i think it was Agassis destiny for Pete to get worn out so that he couldnt crush him which is what would have definatley happened. Agassi is quite a special player, hes the best baseliner in history, solid on both sides and can also hit winners of each side, plus he was the las vegas show machine, he could hit many trick shots to back it up. Pete was better, but Pete would have become the greatest baseliner who ever lived if pete fischer didnt want him to become the greatest all court player which lead to becoming the greatest Serve Volleyer of all time.

But my point is Andre is one of the greatest talents ever, and he had to win that Aussie open against Pete because If pete never lost a Grandslam final to Andre then it would make Andre less of a rival to him, which woulda been worse on Petes reputation too, and Andre has won 4 Aus Opens too, Pete would have 5 were it not for Andre and Edberg.

angiel
03-15-2006, 10:34 PM
I am glad he did not became a baseliner, I love to see serve & volley tennis, that is the artists of the game - do you realize that Pete did not train that hard for his matches, like Andre does - every season Andre would train like crazy just to stay in shape and be match fit, Pete didn't have to do that at all, look how many times Pete break down and still manages to win a slam, Andre could not do that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Only sorry Pete couldn't won the French Open, that why I have this vision that he could come back and do so, maybe I am just dreaming? :sad: :sad:

Mimi
03-16-2006, 07:23 AM
pete should win 1995 AO, and also 1997 us open (ihe should not lost to Kodak!), also 2001 us open, and all together 17 slams, mimi is more greedy than angiel :devil:

the_natural
03-16-2006, 10:10 AM
Angiel i think u are dreaming sadly I wish dreams could come true sometimes. Serve and volleyers ARE the true artists and YES even in 2001 i remeber an interview with pete, he said his Conditioning training was "Some light jogging and lots of stretching" Thats NOTHING compared to Lendl or Agassi lol, they used the most scientific approaches possible. You know he was even not that great on court with practice, he had a reputation of not trying too hard on court when he practiced hitting with people, and it was all seen as work for him, so he took it seriously and only did it out of necessity not for fun (i wish he had more fun doin it though, he may have stayed interested in the game longer). He gave his all to get what he wanted but in practice he is not near the top ten, but he was very business like in practice so it was effective.

I think pete shoulda won the 2000 Aus Open, and the 93 Aus Open, I know the it was more fitting for him to start at Wimbledon but still It would have been 3 GS wins that year and he woulda defended in 94, also he could have defended the Aus Open and Wimbledon in 94, that would have been amazing, and he woulda had enough points to not worry about number 1 ranking. If u remeber, after Wimbledon 94 he got foot problems and was out for a few months then a few weeks before the USO he had to rush back and play as many tournaments as possible to protect his ranking, and by the USO he ran outta steam at Korda :( ... You know he has a perfect night match record at the USO :)

BTW I do wish pete had trained harder with his conditioning like andre, cos then his thalessemia wouldnt have effected him as badly and I think he would have won the french because he would have better endurance :)

angiel
03-16-2006, 05:16 PM
pete should win 1995 AO, and also 1997 us open (ihe should not lost to Kodak!), also 2001 us open, and all together 17 slams, mimi is more greedy than angiel :devil:


He could have had 18 slams in all, he only lost 4 finals in slams, that would have made him perfect. :cool: :worship: :angel: :wavey:

angiel
03-16-2006, 05:19 PM
He could still come back and won it, teasing aside - the sport would love that, tennis is not fun these days, it needs a shot in the arms, natural, everybody is playing the same style or way. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wavey:

the_natural
03-20-2006, 01:54 PM
Really Angiel?? I wouldnt have guessed it, i mean theres nobody completley dominating right now is there ;) ... hehe, I mean to be fair hes very very talented but when Hewitt can also beat any player in the world I think it says alot. Its also funny that the players considered to be the most talented, or just plain TOUGH, are the ones who can actually come into the net every so often and do something useful.

You know the tennis world would LOVE IT. But I THINK ITS IMPOSSIBLE, at least 99.99% impossible because remeber Pete Burnt out from tennis, he got frustrated lots around 97/98 and onwards and found the tour too boring and repetitive, and yet he kept pushing, the number 1 ranking was what burnt him out the most and yes he was burnt out trust me Angiel, but he just kept goin so he could break the all time GS record, and he kept on going just because he wanted to find a reason to keep playing.

I dont think he would ever be motivated enough to come back and play, plus clay is extremley tough on the body and gives a severe disadvantage to serve volleyers, so Pete would have to play the All court game of the young pete. He would have to play baseline on return and serve volley on serve like the very very young pete did at uso 90, and even up till 96 I believe he was like that somewhat, but his backhand was a strength in his very early days and was starting to be exposed in 95/96. I dont know if he has to stamina either, so he would have to do "conditioning training" to build great endurance, plus his sickness, so he has to work even harder. He will need more motivation than it took to remain year end number 1 for those final few years, and tougher than when he won the USO in 96, if u combine all that determination then he will come back and win the french. Because he had the perfect ending in his eyes, at the 02 USO, Laver threw the coin for the finals and he beat his old rival after such a dry spell and being counted down and out.

angiel
03-21-2006, 12:21 AM
Of course Roger is dominating, but where are the rivals and fun in tennis these days - we are all seeing everyone hitting the ball the same way, in every matches,


And no my friend, he wasn't burn-out in 2000, that was when he breaks the record, remember, after wimbledon 2000, He find other important things to do, like having a life away from tennis, that is what happen, after - he move to California, find himself a woman he loves, and start spending more time with his family - tell me, what did he have to achieve after wimbledon 2000? :confused: :(


I must say well done to Blake, he will get it done one day. :worship: :worship:

the_natural
03-21-2006, 04:51 AM
I think he burnt out after 98, but come on he was gettin very frustrated after having to work so hard to hold the ranking. I think u and i think of burnt out in a different way. I see burnt out as in being sick of tennis, not a lack of talent or nething. Because if u look at his record, he won one title before wimbledon 99 because it was so stressful for him to remain at the top for so long, and then 2000 he won only wimbledon, If im not mistaken, thats because after 98 there was no reason to win more titles because all he needed was the GS tournaments and thats where he tried his hardest.

He could have gotten the number one ranking again but it was just too stressful to completley dominate the sport AND keep winning grandslams when you start to age and have been around so long that tennis is boring to u. Trust me Even rafter found the drudgery of the tour to be very very demanding and he said it helped him move into retirement when he got injured. And rafter was a Serve Volleyer too so he can relate to pete, but wat is important about pete is that he achieved more than anyone else. When I look at pete i look at two things, he dominated for as long as lendl and as much as borg/laver. What I mean is, he kept winning grandslams like Laver and Borg but those guys didnt stay at number one for 286 weeks. And Ivan stayed at number one for almost an eternity and he made 2 more GS finals than Pete (Thats the world record) but wasnt good enough to win as many as Pete.

Also Borg burnt out just by the pressures of winning the French and Wimbledon every year, I think Winning grandslams is easier than trying to also maintain the number 1 ranking, because the only way to win a slam is by beating 7 people, however roddick is number 3 and he is one of the worst players in the top 20. Meaning a lesser player can lose to sampras all the time in the Grandslams but still beat other players in other tournaments, and can win tournaments that Sampras doesnt play in, and still challenge the number 1 spot. So I guess what im trying to say is, Pete had to spend about 8 weeks a year trying to win/defend GS titles, as did Borg and Laver, but he had to spend 52 weeks a year Defending the number 1 ranking which was a hell of a strain. Thats why I believe he burnt out after 98, he said himself that he could no longer go back to being number 1 because he didnt want that kind of pressure/stress anymore. But He was still motivated to win the big tournies.

angiel
03-21-2006, 07:42 PM
Natural, we agree to disagree, but I think burn-out and stress are too different thing my friend, you can become stressful and not burn-out in life, look for what the word stress means and do the same for burned out. :D :wavey: :confused:


How much titles did he won in 1998? :( :(

the_natural
03-22-2006, 08:24 AM
No i know theres a different between burn out and stress. But look at pete after 98 and see how many titles he won, he said himself that he couldnt stay at number 1 anymore. Im not saying that he was not good anymore, but he didnt enjoy tennis as much anymore, he said so himself. Thats called burn out, but he had the courage and determination and mental strength to carry on

angiel
03-22-2006, 11:02 PM
No i know theres a different between burn out and stress. But look at pete after 98 and see how many titles he won, he said himself that he couldnt stay at number 1 anymore. Im not saying that he was not good anymore, but he didnt enjoy tennis as much anymore, he said so himself. Thats called burn out, but he had the courage and determination and mental strength to carry on





Tell you what natural, if I did stay a number one for six straight years in anything I would feel just like how Pete did, after 1998, that was when he breaks that record I think, but I dont think he was burn out per say - this man has been playing tennis since the age of seven, that is half of his life - I would want to stop for awhile too - are take it easy, after a certain period - that is what happens to Pete and not just him, other people who play sports - you know there was a comment by someone, just before he won the US Open in 2002 - it goes like this - "take a break from the game, have some kids and then come back and play"and I believe that person was right. :worship: :worship: :wavey:

almouchie
03-27-2006, 11:03 AM
always gr8 pics & posts by angiel & co
:)

the_natural
03-27-2006, 11:58 AM
But dont you just get sick of the sport?? Remeber he said he didnt touch the racquet after trying to train for Wimbledon 03?? and his tennis court was (not nemore) a basketball court, do u think he will become dedicated enough to try and win it big again, because thats a huge commitment and there will be ALOT of pain involved and ALOT of time and effort, and he will get back all those memories of not only the good but the bad as well, and how DIFFICULT it was. It would take alot for him to be motivated enough. Especially since hes got a new baby now

angiel
03-27-2006, 11:47 PM
But dont you just get sick of the sport?? Remeber he said he didnt touch the racquet after trying to train for Wimbledon 03?? and his tennis court was (not nemore) a basketball court, do u think he will become dedicated enough to try and win it big again, because thats a huge commitment and there will be ALOT of pain involved and ALOT of time and effort, and he will get back all those memories of not only the good but the bad as well, and how DIFFICULT it was. It would take alot for him to be motivated enough. Especially since hes got a new baby now


He has a new tennis court my friend, he also has a new home, and that baby is going to grow up soon, do you know they has not seen their dad play. :sad: :sad: :wavey:

the_natural
03-30-2006, 09:35 AM
Yes and He should play for that Remeber Johnny Mac said in his final years that he was playing so his kids could see him live rather than hear about him. Petey won a slam for Timmy and it was almost gonna be the french till he ran outta steam because he had been out so long without practice and he was just using all his energy there. Then he won one for the sampras name with Wimbledon 00, and he also won one for Bridgy with USO 02 even though it was also to show the haters you know it was also because he was angry at the haters blaming her.

I think His sons are owed a GS dont you think ??? In the Name of Christian and one in the name of Christian... two GS titles :) ;) If only he had twins now then that would make a Calendar GS :D hehe. Nah But seriously I think he should at least come back for one french in the name of his sons. And you know he always said there was pressure to win at RG rather than motivation, Timmy was Motivation in 96 but it was too much too soon, but he did prove that when there was a reason to win there he beat the best of the best and 3 past champs, if he plays for his sons he has a reason.

You know im greedy, i wish Christian could would say "daddy can you win the french open for me? So i can see you play? and I can show all my friends" ... hehe I wish that could happen before Pete was too old.

angiel
03-30-2006, 09:41 PM
Dont make me cry :sad: :sad: my dear natural, but I was thinking the same thing myself, I would love to see him do that and not just me I think - Bridgette would would to see her sons watching win, she said so, just before he retired - I wish if there was some way we could get to talk to him, he needs a personal website for himself, what do you say. :wavey: :D :angel


Think how great it would be, to see him pass that winning racket to his boys. :worship: :worship: :worship: :cool:

the_natural
04-01-2006, 10:54 AM
Yesssss i am gonna cry too so dont worry haha..... AHHHH PETEEEEEEEE He was the greatest... and Still is. Hey Angiel ;) Do u remeber Pete ever saying SPECIFICALLY, after denying that this was a comeback, That he never wanted anything to do with tennis nemore (like Lendl said), or did he say I couldnt go through that all again. All I remeber was "I know what its like and what you have to do to work that hard to play that well day in day out again" lol, He never said "hey its never happening". So i think deep in his heart He still does want a little piece of him to come back, but hes not 100% Focussed on it or ready for it, and its either gonna fade away or get stronger the feeling to play that well again. You know if any big Male stars like Andy and James play WTT, if he verses them and hes in shape enough to win handily, well I dont know is anything going to stop him from wanting to come back?

angiel
04-01-2006, 06:34 PM
No, none of them will be playing in the WTT, sorry, but who to tell, Pete might just decided to come back and play, look at American tennis right now, it is in a shamble, Roddick cant win to save his own life, and Blake is not strong enough, and as for Andre, he is finish, I guess - so who is there. :rolleyes: :p :sad:

Greg-Pete fan
06-23-2006, 05:01 PM
Where are you people? ;) Please post Pete`s photos in these topics with years ;) Wake up :p