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Fight club Friday

bad gambler
02-24-2006, 03:27 AM
For those who have not had a chance to watch the movie, take a look.

I have Hingis to beat Masha carried over from yesterday


Leaning on Sexy to take out Djokovic, will decide once some odds come out



happy punting

Hola Mr. SK
02-24-2006, 03:48 AM
I just put my vCash on Nole :awww: hope you are wrong this time,BG. :D
Djokovic won their latest meet in Zagreb 6-4 6-3. Its also indoors. I wont be surprised if this match goes 3sets,but Nole should win.:D

jackieglover
02-24-2006, 03:54 AM
Stepanek was -125/1.80 at first, but now -143/1.70

bad gambler
02-24-2006, 06:36 AM
Just the one for me then:

Stepanek to beat Djokovic - $1.70

gl

Mistaflava
02-24-2006, 07:01 AM
Rotterdam (Quarter-Finals): Friday, February 24, 2006



Olivier Rochus +107 over Jarkko Nieminen ($1500 to win $1605)

This is by far my largest wager of the week and I am not backing down no matter how many Oli haters I run into from now until match time. Both players have been admirably good on the indoor hardcourt surface, Rochus going 12-4 over the last 12 months and Jarkko going 9-4 over the same period of time. When you look at both their lifetime record, Rochus has the obvious edge having won almost 10% advantage winnine percentage wise on the indoor hardcourts. Both players have enjoyed success in Rotterdam the times they have played here but I very strongly expect Rochus to come out on top in this one. What makes this even more difficults is that both players have outstanding Tie Break records on this surface over the last 12 months and should any of the sets go to a breaker...it could swing either way. Olivier Rochus is one of the only players on tour who can handle Jarkko on this surface. In fact, Olivier Rochus is 7-1 lifetime versus left handed players when playing on the indoor hardcourt surface in both ATP and Challenger events. His only loss came against Rafa earlier this year and even then, Rafa is Rafa and Rochus managed to win a set of the outstanding young Spaniard. During that streak of matches, Rochus has beat Jarkko twice, he has beat Greg Rusedski in a tough quarter-final and he beat Feliciano Lopez last year in Marseille. So far this tournament it looks like Rochus is only getting stronger by the match as he was very impressive in sending David Ferrer packing with nothing more than a few games won and a very short match. Not to take anything away from Jarkko who is coming off big wins as well but Ancic was most obviously not in the best of shapes and Simon almost stunned Jarkko early. Like I mentioned before, the difference in this matchup is going to be Rochus' ability to frustrate Jarkko's style on this surface and although I see this going three sets, the like annoying kid from Belgium is going to kick some ass. OLI OLI OLI!



:eek:

bad gambler
02-24-2006, 07:22 AM
Adding:

Rochus Brothers double - $3.10

gl

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 08:01 AM
My only strong lean:

Monaco over Massu @2.30

Juan is 2-0 H2h over massu and has been rolling through the tournament. Taking out Serra easily, and then takes out Chela easily too! He has the confidence to take out Massu who hasn't been impressive this week. Massu had to fight back to beat Vicente, and had to fight back to steal both sets from Almagro at 7-5 each. On top of that, Massu has played lots of clay tennis in the past couple weeks and I think his wheels may be a little worn; therefore I'd give a good edge to Monaco!

I'm still waiting on the Hingis wager I took yesterday which has been delayed due to rain. Depending on the outcome of that match I may follow with the lean and take Monaco. I'm tempted to take Oli over Jarkko but I'm feeling greed is the only reason why I'm leaning towards that bet. I can see there being a TB in that match and it could easily go to 3 sets.. means too much of a 50/50 match. Will have to think about it after the Hingis match.

dbnumberone
02-24-2006, 08:11 AM
I'm sold on Vliegen - seems he's raised his game another level this year, nice run by Cap but he's played a lot of tennis after coming through quallies, so...
bet to win a unit on KV
gl all

bournerdan
02-24-2006, 08:32 AM
Parmar @2.62 over C. Rochus

Arvind is having the best week of his ATP career and to my mind Rochus isn't really anything to be all that scared of. Parmar has played well enough this week to trouble Rochus and at @2.62 I'm willing to take the risk. Could obviously go either way and because of experience Rochus is a favourite but Arvind at his best wins a match up between these two on indoor hard court. Arvind for the title!! :)

Andre♥
02-24-2006, 09:28 AM
If the thought of Parmar beating Christophe Rochus is 'THAT' funny then I'd stick your house on Rochus to win pal......After all....Rochus is a four times grand slam champion isn't he? and never ever loses to players ranked below him.... :confused:

Actually I believe it's a 50/50 game. Rochus almost lost to Lisnard, who is way worse than Parmar...

Arkan91
02-24-2006, 09:29 AM
hotsteppa to beat djokovic @1.75

and throw in davy @1.20

davy wont throw this match prizemoney is higher than last week

its.like.that
02-24-2006, 09:51 AM
CHRISTOPHE ROCHUS TO BEAT THE LIVING SH*TE OUT OF SANCHEESE, PARMAR @ 1.55

BOL!!!!

its.like.that
02-24-2006, 10:04 AM
Actually I believe it's a 50/50 game. Rochus almost lost to Lisnard, who is way worse than Parmar...

:cuckoo:

Parmar didn't play 1 match at ATP level last year, his best result was a lone semi-final at a low grade Challenger.

On the other hand, Lisnard played in 3 slams and 4 masters series events. He made the 3rd round at the AO and 2nd round at Wimbledon.

And Parmar is the better player? :confused:

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 10:10 AM
Parmar could well beat Rochus. He'd have to serve and volley with conviction to do it. However, the Belgian is good at dealing with that sort of player. You'd favour Rochus at this stage of a tournament...whereas Arvind is the last Brit standing. Tough one - but Arv is value in my opinion.

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 10:11 AM
I'm liking Vliegen's form right now. I don't know much about Capdeville though...

...he has played 4 3-set matches this week - must be feeling it physically. He mostly stays on the clay...indoors won't be his favourite surface. Hmmm. Will decide later ;)

No lines out for Rotterdam! :smash:

its.like.that
02-24-2006, 10:21 AM
Vliegen is free money, bookies continue to underrate him.

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 10:22 AM
Vliegen is free money, bookies continue to underrate him.

I can't see him losing

its.like.that
02-24-2006, 10:56 AM
Parmar could well beat Rochus. He'd have to serve and volley with conviction to do it. However, the Belgian is good at dealing with that sort of player. You'd favour Rochus at this stage of a tournament...whereas Arvind is the last Brit standing. Tough one - but Arv is value in my opinion.

Ok, Rochus is not top 20 material, but he wins matches at ATP level consistantly.

He's up against a monkey who beat that big name Meffert in the previous round, and the hopeless Srichaphan before that. He's hardly the 2nd coming...

:rolleyes:

JMG
02-24-2006, 11:44 AM
Parmar is crap, so won't touch this one.

Only a small play on Jarkko, because I wanna get a sms with his result from gamebookers.

Bolar Bolabi
02-24-2006, 12:24 PM
Stepanek @ $1.65 over Djokovic
Rochus @ $2.00 over Nieminen
Vliegen X Haas over Capdeville and Tursunov @ $2.04
Murray @ $2.05 over Soderling

Good luck!

DeccyB123
02-24-2006, 12:31 PM
ATP Record: 3-1
Profit/Loss: +2.45 Units

Patience @ 2.3
Huge win first round over Gaudio 6-2 6-2. Beat the very in-form Pashanski last night. Should account for the similarly styled Martin.

O.Rochus @ 2
Holds a 3-2 lead on H2H record. Most recent was earlier this year, where Nieminen got up, but only after 3 long sets including 2 tie-breaks. They both hold good form going into this match, but my opinion is that Rochus will be better. All losses he's experience this year have been close. If he gets a lead, he should hold onto it.

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 01:10 PM
Looking likely to be:

Roddick x Vliegen @ 1.73
Ollie Rochus @ 1.90

its.like.bolar
02-24-2006, 02:18 PM
Robin Soderling to win 2 - 1 @ 4.33
Andrew Murray to win 2 - 1 @ 4.33

Jarkko Nieminen to win 2 - 1 @ 4.33
Olivier Rochus to win 2 - 1 @ 4.33

Maria Sharapova to win 2 - 1 @ 3.75
Lindsay Davenport to win 2 - 1 @ 4.00

Juan Monaco to win 2 - 1 @ 4.50
Nicolas Massu to win 2 - 1 @ 4.33

Alberto Martin + Gisela Dulko @ 1.92

:wavey:

Mistaflava
02-24-2006, 02:25 PM
adding...



Costa Do Sauipe (Semi-Finals): Friday, February 24, 2006



Alberto Martin -185 over Olivier Patience ($1850 to win $1000)

The last time I bet on Beto I won but the time before that I lost. So this one could go either way but I am very confident Beto will get the job done. Olivier Patience screwed me big time last night by outperforming a very worn out Boris Pashanski. Thankfully, Beto's fitness is much better than Pashanski's and he has generally been a good bet in the past. Beto was great against Horna and Vanek and I expect some more good stuff from him today. He is 7-1 lifetime in Costa Do Sauipe reaching the finals last year and losing to Rafael Nadal in three sets. It seems like Martin loves to play here and it seems like he might a dominating force for years to come. I also admire the way Beto has handled tough opposition. He is one tough player to break and has the head on his shoulders to break back should his game slip a little bit. Check this one out. Alberto Martin is 7-0 versus players from France since the week of September 22, 2003 in ATP or Challenger events played on clay courts. His last loss was to PHM in the Semi-Final of the Palermo tournament. Since that time, Martin has dominated the french style of play and no problems taking care of the style they bring to the clay courts. This is something that comes with experience and Beto has basically mastered the act of beating frenchmen. Patience happens to be french and Beto is going to make this win number eight. Patience has wins over some big time names this week but I don't really care because if you ask me, all were out of shape and Patience is looking better than he really is. Beto it is.



:eek:

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 02:52 PM
Mista - that is the craziest logic I have ever come across! :tape: I hope Beto gets the job done for you...I haven't the balls to bet on the match! :haha:

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 03:25 PM
Right, here we go:

Roddick x Vliegen @ 1.73
Ollie Rochus @ 1.90

Analysis: http://www.triplethreatsports777.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11969&posted=1#post11969

Good luck! :yeah:

fisherking
02-24-2006, 04:03 PM
I wouldn't bet on Vliegen with such crappy odds. Beating out-of-form Blake doesn't mean a lot these days. Wang beat him a week ago in San Jose.
And Capdeville - a man who survived against Karlovic and - defeated (on the other side) such classic clayourter (keeping ball in play) as Robredo is...

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 04:17 PM
Well my bet from yesterday on Hingis failed over.. Going to add this bet otherwise I'm going to see the first red day in a while!

Djok over Step @2.35

Today is a tough day for bets and I'm tempted by many plays but seriously.. all these matches could really go either way and potentially 3 setters, so reader take caution with any tip! But with that said, I feel Djokovic is comfortable playing S&Vers and net attackers. He beat Stepanek at Zagreb easily and beat Henman yesterday. Djok lost a tight first set but then finding his form and dominated Henman in the 2nd and 3rd. Last year Djok also beat Ancic, another player that's comfortable at the net. I didn't watch Djok play Henman yesterday but a friend told me he hit amazing passing shots and looked very comfortable when Henman charged the net. Djok seems to like a nice target and Stepan will be a great one today! I'll give this one a go knowing it's probably a high risk play.



:: Still considering Monaco over Massu though the odds are now only 2.01 instead of 2.30.

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 04:59 PM
I wouldn't bet on Vliegen with such crappy odds. Beating out-of-form Blake doesn't mean a lot these days. Wang beat him a week ago in San Jose.
And Capdeville - a man who survived against Karlovic and - defeated (on the other side) such classic clayourter (keeping ball in play) as Robredo is...

I don't know about robredo as a classic claycourter but I had Robredo earlier this week over Capd for the same logic: this guy hasn't been outside of clay much.. And i was quite surprised how many times he broke Robredo. What gives? I also heard he's a S&Ver from Chile.

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 05:06 PM
Add:

Soderling over Murray @1.8 (Highest play of day)

Murray has looked very bad this week. He barely escaped defeat against Shittler, and again yesterday almost lost to Rik De Voest. Murray has had fitness issues in the past and I'm confident that Murray has played too much Tennis recently. Soderling should have beaten him last time they played and will definitely beat him this time around! ANother thing to note is Soderling has been pretty damn good indoors and my guess is straight sets!

I'm going to use most my profits this week and lay a big one on the man they call SODO! If I lose this one I'll be back where I was on Sunday which isn't too bad I guess :sad:

fisherking
02-24-2006, 05:25 PM
haha...
off-topic, a lot....

I've just changed my avatar and i've seen that player which is in avatar ie sports freak, it's Roger Federer.

And I was pretty sure, it's Xavier Malisse ;)

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 06:24 PM
Geez I got lucky on Kris! Tiebreak goes my way for once! :lol:

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 07:43 PM
Add:

Soderling over Murray @1.8 (Highest play of day)

Murray has looked very bad this week. He barely escaped defeat against Shittler, and again yesterday almost lost to Rik De Voest. Murray has had fitness issues in the past and I'm confident that Murray has played too much Tennis recently. Soderling should have beaten him last time they played and will definitely beat him this time around! ANother thing to note is Soderling has been pretty damn good indoors and my guess is straight sets!

I'm going to use most my profits this week and lay a big one on the man they call SODO! If I lose this one I'll be back where I was on Sunday which isn't too bad I guess :sad:

Soderling wins 6-1, 6-4! Very pleased with my judgement and going big when the opportunity is right!

Still have a bet pending with Djok but regardless of that result will be a good day!

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 09:02 PM
Djok loses in 3rd set TB.. :(

TwistyServe
02-24-2006, 09:12 PM
Add:

Monaco over Massu @2.1

Grinder
02-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Haas over Tursunov @ -205 - $205 to win $100

bad gambler
02-24-2006, 09:58 PM
Just the one for me then:

Stepanek to beat Djokovic - $1.70

gl


win


Lost on Hingis against Masha though

Grinder
02-24-2006, 11:38 PM
Haas over Tursunov @ -205 - $205 to win $100

WON

dbnumberone
02-25-2006, 12:06 AM
I'm sold on Vliegen - seems he's raised his game another level this year, nice run by Cap but he's played a lot of tennis after coming through quallies, so...
bet to win a unit on KV
gl all

WIN

Benneteau won 5 games in 3 sets off ARod in the AO, I don't think either have gotten so much better & worse that the end result won't be the same, even if it is closer.

bet to win a unit on ARod

bad gambler
02-25-2006, 12:50 AM
Adding:

Rochus Brothers double - $3.10

gl


Bet lost

Horatio Caine
02-25-2006, 02:57 AM
Well I'm in shock....

My small play loses...I can take that. Ollie lose from a set and a break up and 1/1 sets and twice a break up...not good really.

My banker bet gets off to a ropey but successful start with vliegen winning and I thought I could count on A-Rod to bring it home...how the hell did he lose to Benneteau? :confused:

TwistyServe
02-25-2006, 03:32 AM
Add:

Monaco over Massu @2.1

Monaco loses 5-7 in the 3rd set... another lame ending in the 3rd lol.. but u win some you lose some that way too.

Still got my big bet win today, so only seeing a small bit of red for today.

Back with more tomorrow hopefully.

dbnumberone
02-25-2006, 04:04 AM
Well I'm in shock....

My small play loses...I can take that. Ollie lose from a set and a break up and 1/1 sets and twice a break up...not good really.

My banker bet gets off to a ropey but successful start with vliegen winning and I thought I could count on A-Rod to bring it home...how the hell did he lose to Benneteau? :confused:

no kidding on ARod :mad:
I got too #*()&# greedy, from green to well down on the day - lesson learned

its.like.that
02-25-2006, 04:18 AM
WIN

Benneteau won 5 games in 3 sets off ARod in the AO, I don't think either have gotten so much better & worse that the end result won't be the same, even if it is closer.

bet to win a unit on ARod

Normally it's once bitten twice shy... but not with you. :lol:

You've already been bitten on more than a handful of occasions.

dbnumberone
02-25-2006, 02:22 PM
Normally it's once bitten twice shy... but not with you. :lol:

You've already been bitten on more than a handful of occasions.

yet still doing better than I would following your picks :D