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Let's-Cut-The-Crap Sunday

its.like.that
02-18-2006, 11:53 PM
Tips and write-ups only, no :bs::


Buenos Aires

F. Volandri vs C. Moya
F. Volandri 2.720
C. Moya 1.549


Marseille

A. Clement vs M. Ancic
A. Clement 2.950
M. Ancic 1.465

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 12:00 AM
Feeling both favorites have a strong chance of winning, and I'm probably not the only one. But sometimes the obvious choice isn't the right coice :(

I am having a feeling Clement will continue to have great form and Ancic might end up choking. The obvious choice is Ancic but I'm going to go with Clement. Another thing to note is that he lost to Ancic easily last month so this bet is definitely a tough one.

Will probably play moya as well but his matchups with volandri have been very close in the past. Moya, however, is showing great form. Volandri struggled all week and was surprised he got past Calleri in straights.

Will post real bet later.

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 01:14 AM
MOYA over VOLANDRI @1.53

Moya is the definate bet here. He's 4 - 1 head to head with Volandri, although Volandri did win their last match up on Clay. Moya has the better serve, the better forehand, the better all court game with alot more power all round. Add the fact that he's won this tournament twice before, and will have the crowd support. The odds at around 1.50 are excellent for a match that Moya should really win. I have to be honest on Volandri though and say that in the past he has surprised me by winning matches that I really thought he would lose, so it's hardly set in stone. But the odds are good enough for me to play this with a decent wager.

ANCIC over CLEMENT @1.36

I would definately lean towards the croatian here but obviously Clement has played some excellent tennis and beaten some good players in getting to the final so it's a brave man who goes big on Mario. Clement has definately rediscovered something this week but luckily for anyone betting on Ancic, he isn't a left hander :) Mario, as we all know, does have a tendency to choke in big matches and that won't be helped by the fact that the crowd will of course be with Clement. I'd still take Ancic though, but not at these odds, I'm not going to play this line.

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 01:22 AM
Bet #1:

Clement over Ancic @2.950

Sometimes the obvious choice isn't the right coice

I am having a feeling Clement will continue to have great form and Ancic might end up choking as he usuall does in big events. Originally was going to go with Ancic but was convinced by..

Ancic has won 1 of 5 finals:

SINGLES CAREER TITLES (1): 2005--'s-Hertogenbosch FINALIST (4): 2004--Milan; 2005--Scottsdale, Tokyo; 2006--Auckland

Now take a look at the opponents he's lost to in the other finals! Players he should have beaten easily I might add!

The obvious choice is Ancic but I'm going to go with Clement. Another thing to note is that he lost to Ancic easily last month so this bet is definitely a tough one.

Note: It's unlike me to bet on an underdog so this one bet is not a great one to follow.. still ancic=choke!

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 01:28 AM
Note: It's unlike me to bet on an underdog so this one bet is not a great one to follow.. still ancic=choke!

You bet on 3 underdogs yesterday.

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 01:29 AM
You bet on 3 underdogs yesterday.

Yes but if you look at my other 100 bets how many other underdogs have I placed. Get lost. This thread is to be keep clean. You're trying to institgate me. GET LOST! I know you're going to lay off too.. cause 1 more bet and your.. -R-E-D-

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 01:41 AM
This match is one to be left in my opinion:

1. Both men are poor in finals. Clement has won 2 of 7 and Ancic 1 of 5.

2. H2h favours Clement but he got his ass handed to him last month by Ancic.

3. The match-up doesn't really favour Clement. Granted, he can beat serve and volley players, but they tend to be the ones without much of a baseline game e.g. Rusedski, Arthurs, Dent. Ancic has proved he isn't all that bad at the back (DC), although he obviously won't want to be pinned there.

4. Whilst Clement has impressed this week, he must be running out of gas soon. His game is high energy as he runs down everything, whereas Ancic relies more on his serve and pressurising opponents into mistakes - the rallies are short.

5. Clement will have the crowd on his side - this will inspire him and maybe cause Ancic to tighten up.

I'd give Clement a 30% chance in this match x 3.00 = 90
Ancic @ 1.36 x 70 = 95

Therefore this match is not bettable.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 01:43 AM
Yes but if you look at my other 100 bets how many other underdogs have I placed. Get lost. This thread is to be keep clean. You're trying to institgate me. GET LOST! I know you're going to lay off too.. cause 1 more bet and your.. -R-E-D-

You really will gain few friends on the boards this way.

I will not technically go red as I made a one-off deposit into my account and because I do % stakes I will be fine. I'm sorry if you find that so tough to understand. Not all of us like to go "all-in" 1 bet...as Loro said, you should thank him for still being able to bet right now.

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 02:01 AM
You really will gain few friends on the boards this way.

I will not technically go red as I made a one-off deposit into my account and because I do % stakes I will be fine. I'm sorry if you find that so tough to understand. Not all of us like to go "all-in" 1 bet...as Loro said, you should thank him for still being able to bet right now.

No jez you will win few friends by starting fueds with me over and over. People don't like having to dig through this crap. It was ended, jim made this thread with the title of cut the crap, yet you still continue... WHY? Why start more shit with me.. You wrote that I bet on 3 dogs yesterday trying to imply that I was lying in my writeup. Well look at my whole betting history.. how many dogs have I taken vesus how many favorites?

As for the "all-in" deal, loro is the one that always claims to go "all-in" and then claimed he got burned by haas. Why bring him into this anyway? You really need him to jump in to defend you too? A tag team action? If you look at the spreadsheet that I made public, how many bets do you see that are placed over $1000? Please tell me where I went all in? Almost all my highstake bets have won! I have never went all in wheather you think I have or have not./

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 02:04 AM
With respect to the other punters and this thread I'm officially putting you, jez, and you loro on ignore. I frankly don't care what either if you two say anymore as it's just pointless bickering. No one wants to dig through all the crap you start..

/ignore is on .. I wont see any more of your messages

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:13 AM
No jez you will win few friends by starting fueds with me over and over. People don't like having to dig through this crap. It was ended, jim made this thread with the title of cut the crap, yet you still continue... WHY? Why start more shit with me.. You wrote that I bet on 3 dogs yesterday trying to imply that I was lying in my writeup. Well look at my whole betting history.. how many dogs have I taken vesus how many favorites?

Okay, so I replied to your post. You are implying something out of nothing. Not my fault that you are insecure.

I couldn't care less about your betting history - I know all about up to the last couple of days as you used to give me a 5-minute run-down virtually every hour on how you were down, and then you were up, and then you took this, and then you got unlucky on that...blah blah.


As for the "all-in" deal, loro is the one that always claims to go "all-in" and then claimed he got burned by haas. Why bring him into this anyway? You really need him to jump in to defend you too? A tag team action? If you look at the spreadsheet that I made public, how many bets do you see that are placed over $1000? Please tell me where I went all in? Almost all my highstake bets have won! I have never went all in wheather you think I have or have not./

You talked about going "all-in" a number of times. I don't know whether you did becuase I lost interest.

Anyway, I don't like your attitude and others on these boards don't either. They just can't be bothered with you whereas I enjoy battering you up. The fact is (and any sensible person reading this will form their own opinion if they care) you added Loro and I to your MSN contact list and asked us for tips. We obliged, and we were happy to do so. You pestered us morning, day and night for them - I didn't mind. What I do mind is that you threw that back at myself and him. Wishing me into red, as you did in a previous post, makes your behaviour all the more filthy. So don't you dare take the moral highground with me. Got it?

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:15 AM
With respect to the other punters and this thread I'm officially putting you, jez, and you loro on ignore. I frankly don't care what either if you two say anymore as it's just pointless bickering. No one wants to dig through all the crap you start..

/ignore is on .. I wont see any more of your messages

Do what you like you :retard:

We were happily helping you only a few days ago. People must wonder what you did to make us dislike you so much.

Good luck with your betting. I genuinely mean that. Too bad you won't read it.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:19 AM
With respect to the other punters and this thread I'm officially putting you, jez, and you loro on ignore. I frankly don't care what either if you two say anymore as it's just pointless bickering. No one wants to dig through all the crap you start..

/ignore is on .. I wont see any more of your messages

So you post a 6-figure salary paycheck in a gambler's forum just to prove how brilliant you are, and then you advertise in your sig that you have ignored Loro and I...you really are one sad individual. :retard: :retard: :retard:

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 02:30 AM
MOYA over VOLANDRI @1.53

Moya is the definate bet here. He's 4 - 1 head to head with Volandri, although Volandri did win their last match up on Clay. Moya has the better serve, the better forehand, the better all court game with alot more power all round. Add the fact that he's won this tournament twice before, and will have the crowd support. The odds at around 1.50 are excellent for a match that Moya should really win. I have to be honest on Volandri though and say that in the past he has surprised me by winning matches that I really thought he would lose, so it's hardly set in stone. But the odds are good enough for me to play this with a decent wager.


Sounds good mate. I am probably going to make a wager on moya after the ancic/clement finals.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:43 AM
I apologise to Prabu in particular for my behaviour, and the behaviour of others tonight - I hope it doesn't take you too long to clear up the mess! :lol:

I don't condone my behaviour but this is an issue Loro and I feel very strongly about. When you spend a lot of time trying to help someone, you expect some respect back. This guy never thanked us for our time, made fun of my recent demise, along with Loro's, and wished me a continuing run of bad fortune. You only need to look at his sig to see how much of a midget he is.

I don't go that far though. I hope he sees the rewards of tennis gambling and that it makes him happy.

Our aim is to make the bookies pay...let's do it! :yeah:

SadrieL
02-19-2006, 03:21 AM
Clement to win!!! Clement plays tough at home!!!

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 03:47 AM
LoL the lines on both finals are reversed.. :smash:

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/thumbs/funnylines.JPG (http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/funnylines.JPG)

its.like.that
02-19-2006, 07:20 AM
Jez, please, this thread is for analysis only.

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 07:59 AM
Jez, please, this thread is for analysis only.

I reckon you're right mate. Lets clean this crap.

Bolar Bolabi
02-19-2006, 08:32 AM
Clement

I've learnt my lesson of backing Ancic in a final. Never again. He's a choker of the highest order.

Bolar Bolabi
02-19-2006, 09:01 AM
Moya V Volandri - 3 set match @ $2.20 is good value.

Ancic V Clement - 3 set match @ $2.30 is also good value. Both chokers with Ancic being the bigger one.

I'm definately playing the following:

Mauresmo over Clistjers @ $1.97

Mauresmo V Clistjers - 3 set match @ $2.02

Clement over Ancic @ $2.80

Clement V Ancic - 3 set match @ $2.30

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 09:17 AM
Andy Murray over Lleyton Hewitt @3.25

This will be a hard match for both players; simlar playing-styles.
One thing is for sure, Murray has more power and has a great shot-making! He has to hold his serve quite easy and then he really has the chance to break Hewitt to 50% of his service games. Hewitt always has problems with good returners because his 2nd serve is easily attackable. He played awful last night, I saw the match and he made so many UE's.
For example: He has an open court after a great serve and then he hits the put away's straight into the bottom of the net, ridiculous. This isn't the Hewitt we know from the past. Murray can challange him in baseline rallies, no doubt about that. Good luck with betting, :secret: Twisty will need it.

DeccyB123
02-19-2006, 10:33 AM
I think Hewitt will take out Murray, but his odds are too low to get on...

Nothing tonight...

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 10:38 AM
kostanic @1.40 over Santangelo

Again, if you don't mind WTA then this is another good one. Kostanic has beaten Santangelo twice before and both times it was relatively easy. This is her second ATP final in a row and she is definately getting better. She should beat Santangelo to take her first WTA title.

Clijsters @1.72 over Mauresmo

I'm going with Kim after watching her demolish Dementieva in sets 2 & 3 last night. Her head to head with Mauresmo is excellent including alot of very easy wins. Mauresmo, however has never played better than she is right now and has beaten Kim the last two times they have played, although the last time Kim had to retire due to an ankle strain. A fit Kim Clijsters beats Mauresmo four times out of five and despite the commentators bringing up the ankle injury over and over again last night I saw little evidence in what turned out to be a very effient deconstructing of the dementieva game and Elena was playing well and even serving quite well. Obviously the one question mark over this match is Kim's fitness compared to Mauresmo who is clearly in the shape of her life. Expect Clijsters to be the one looking to go for her shots and for Amelie to see how she does when just getting as many balls back as possible. I'd take Kim @1.72 over anybody.......

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 10:41 AM
Andy Murray over Lleyton Hewitt @3.25

This will be a hard match for both players; simlar playing-styles.
One thing is for sure, Murray has more power and has a great shot-making! He has to hold his serve quite easy and then he really has the chance to break Hewitt to 50% of his service games. Hewitt always has problems with good returners because his 2nd serve is easily attackable. He played awful last night, I saw the match and he made so many UE's.
For example: He has an open court after a great serve and then he hits the put away's straight into the bottom of the net, ridiculous. This isn't the Hewitt we know from the past. Murray can challange him in baseline rallies, no doubt about that. Good luck with betting, :secret: Twisty will need it.

I agree, I'm quite liking the possibility of an upset here, looking at the playing styles I see no reason not to have a punt on Murray.

Bilbo
02-19-2006, 11:11 AM
fair play to clement

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Jez, please, this thread is for analysis only.

...which I have already supplied for the benefit of others and not for myself - how kind of me.

Not my fault that some people think they are God when in fact they have the intelligence of an ant.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 11:44 AM
:rolls::yeah:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 11:47 AM
I know you're going to lay off too.. cause 1 more bet and your.. -R-E-D-

Absolutely priceless. Nice guy...real example to a forum where we try to help others out and win money. :retard: :retard: :retard: :retard: :retard:

fisherking
02-19-2006, 11:49 AM
From all favs i like kangaroo the most today; Murray likes to play against serve-bomber (Soderling, Roddick), but when he plays against defensive-minded players (like himself) he is worse... Do you remeber how Chela destroyed him during Australian Open?

And who is better in defensive style of play than in-form Hewitt? I see no one...

But - the second question - is 1.40 worth backing in any final...
And I will say - no...


Moya - Volandri
I was out of this tourney all week and i'm not going to change it now

Clement - Ancic
Thanks for all kind words for my yesterday calling on Clement; today i have no clue what will happen...

So the only bet for me today is Momo (stiil in great shape and it looks that after victory in Master and AO she is far from her famous mental problems) to beat Kim, who was struggling all week.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 11:49 AM
The reson why Jez has had a bad losing streak is, because you annoyed the crap outta him. "Jez, make write-ups"!!!:retard: Well, I can understand why people who IM with you get headaches.:wavey:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 11:53 AM
I reckon you're right mate. Lets clean this crap.

You were insinuating that Lo was homosexual yesterday which was hardly mature....and you like to laugh at other peoples' demise - yeah that is fucking clean!!!! :retard: :retard: :retard:

Let's see Twisty - you know shit about tennis. You thought "Arnold Palmer, the black dude, was British #1," didn't know who Henman was on a standard photo and your standard analysis is "Player X sux so Player Y will win cos he beat a player that Player X lost to last week." That is excellent analysis! How you are coining it in right now is beyond me, but you still never thanked Loro and I for our time for fucking retard.

I come back from afternoon lecures - Twisty is already asking "U there?"
I'm doing work in the evening - "U there?"
I'm contemplating going to bed - "What's your take on this...?"

Fucking reject - your analysis is not a patch on mine and never will be in your wildest dreams. You will regret every fucking negative thing you said you stupid moron. :retard: :retard: :retard:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 11:55 AM
yoyo!:cool::rocker2:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 11:56 AM
The reson why Jez has had a bad losing streak is, because you annoyed the crap outta him. "Jez, make write-ups"!!!:retard: Well, I can understand why people who IM with you get headaches.:wavey:

:haha: :haha: Well if they are stupid enough to insult me then that is what they get. I gave this twat a lot of time and this is how he repays me. We both saved him from bankruptcy, put up with his laughable "knowledge," pointed him in the right direction...and people here think he's good? He wins on set betting much of the time - if that isn't luck, what is it?!!

Pawn
02-19-2006, 12:39 PM
kostanic @1.40 over Santangelo

Again, if you don't mind WTA then this is another good one. Kostanic has beaten Santangelo twice before and both times it was relatively easy. This is her second ATP final in a row and she is definately getting better. She should beat Santangelo to take her first WTA title.

Clijsters @1.72 over Mauresmo

I'm going with Kim after watching her demolish Dementieva in sets 2 & 3 last night. Her head to head with Mauresmo is excellent including alot of very easy wins. Mauresmo, however has never played better than she is right now and has beaten Kim the last two times they have played, although the last time Kim had to retire due to an ankle strain. A fit Kim Clijsters beats Mauresmo four times out of five and despite the commentators bringing up the ankle injury over and over again last night I saw little evidence in what turned out to be a very effient deconstructing of the dementieva game and Elena was playing well and even serving quite well. Obviously the one question mark over this match is Kim's fitness compared to Mauresmo who is clearly in the shape of her life. Expect Clijsters to be the one looking to go for her shots and for Amelie to see how she does when just getting as many balls back as possible. I'd take Kim @1.72 over anybody.......

Keep the Good Work here!! :) I am following ya and I am liking it! :p

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 12:43 PM
kostanic @1.40 over Santangelo

Again, if you don't mind WTA then this is another good one. Kostanic has beaten Santangelo twice before and both times it was relatively easy. This is her second ATP final in a row and she is definately getting better. She should beat Santangelo to take her first WTA title.

Clijsters @1.72 over Mauresmo

I'm going with Kim after watching her demolish Dementieva in sets 2 & 3 last night. Her head to head with Mauresmo is excellent including alot of very easy wins. Mauresmo, however has never played better than she is right now and has beaten Kim the last two times they have played, although the last time Kim had to retire due to an ankle strain. A fit Kim Clijsters beats Mauresmo four times out of five and despite the commentators bringing up the ankle injury over and over again last night I saw little evidence in what turned out to be a very effient deconstructing of the dementieva game and Elena was playing well and even serving quite well. Obviously the one question mark over this match is Kim's fitness compared to Mauresmo who is clearly in the shape of her life. Expect Clijsters to be the one looking to go for her shots and for Amelie to see how she does when just getting as many balls back as possible. I'd take Kim @1.72 over anybody.......

Not bad .. I was gonna take both cards but couldn't .. Looks like you may be right again! :)

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 12:48 PM
Jez, please, this thread is for analysis only.

Is jez cluddering up the threads with more crap or is he actually "analizing". It's not like him to post so much when he's laying off from fear of losing again. Oh well I can't tell, got them on ignore.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 12:56 PM
Is jez cluddering up the threads with more crap or is he actually "analizing". It's not like him to post so much when he's laying off from fear of losing again. Oh well I can't tell, got them on ignore.

Twisty - I'd love to see some of your analysis...please humour me. You haven't a fucking clue.

...and you feel the need to advertise me on ignore again...you must feel so big pal. I bet you blew your pants just by hitting the ignore button.

Thing is, I know you will visit my thread anyway so it is a pity I cannot block a :retard: like you from seeing good knowledge.

If anyone had any sense, they wouldn't give you the time or day. 2 of us did, and look where that got us. Still, your only buddy in this forum is someone with 6 red dots below their name...yeah he is worthy too! :rolleyes:

Grinder
02-19-2006, 12:56 PM
I took:
Clement over Ancic @ 200 - $400 to win $800

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 01:07 PM
Twisty - I'd love to see some of your analysis...please humour me. You haven't a fucking clue.

...and you feel the need to advertise me on ignore again...you must feel so big pal. I bet you blew your pants just by hitting the ignore button.

Thing is, I know you will visit my thread anyway so it is a pity I cannot block a :retard: like you from seeing good knowledge.

If anyone had any sense, they wouldn't give you the time or day. 2 of us did, and look where that got us. Still, your only buddy in this forum is someone with 6 red dots below their name...yeah he is worthy too! :rolleyes:

I've had red dots under my name from day one on here, not really sure why....Also not sure why you're choosing to have a go at me Jez....

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 01:09 PM
I've had red dots under my name from day one on here, not really sure why....Also not sure why you're choosing to have a go at me Jez....

Born you gotta learn to ignore the idiots in the forum. I have them on ignore for a reason. You're making great picks and just keep doing that. Ignore the rest of the garbage! They don't even have plays for today. They're only in here to create more crap and cludder up the thread.

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 01:16 PM
Born you gotta learn to ignore the idiots in the forum. I have them on ignore for a reason. You're making great picks and just keep doing that. Ignore the rest of the garbage! They don't even have plays for today. They're only in here to create more crap and cludder up the thread.

I've never even had any dealings with these people and they're choosing for some unknown reason to bag me, just seems really odd to me. I can't actually believe how bitchy this place can be. It doesn't really bother me to be honest, so long my picks keep bringing ME profit I'm not going to care how many people want to criticise me for absolutely no reason. If a few people like what I've got to say and win off my picks then that's good too. People bagging me for no reason are unlikely to matter in the long run.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:12 PM
I've had red dots under my name from day one on here, not really sure why....Also not sure why you're choosing to have a go at me Jez....

I apologise mate - you got caught in the cross-fire. Why would I have a go at you when I goodrepped you yesterday? I haven't seen others do that :lol:

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 02:15 PM
Bet #1:

Clement over Ancic @2.950

Sometimes the obvious choice isn't the right coice

I am having a feeling Clement will continue to have great form and Ancic might end up choking as he usuall does in big events. Originally was going to go with Ancic but was convinced by..


:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
Grats on all Clement backers! Myself, Bilbo, Grinder, SadrieL, and others!

As said, ancic = choke! And sometimes the obvious choice is not the right one!

Hope the two kids cluddering up this thread didn't cloud your judgement! Ancic was never going to win this final no matter how much someone else tried to persaude you from taking the bet.

Clement beats Ancic easily in straights!

6-4, 6-2!

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:17 PM
They don't even have plays for today. They're only in here to create more crap and cludder up the thread.

You've got some bloody nerve!

1. There is no rule in gambing that you have to have a bet everyday...in fact someone with any sense will lay off when the matches don't appeal to them, the odds don't appeal to them, or they're on a bad run.

You of course like to bet everyday, and demanded picks from myself and Loro everyday. We advised you that it wasn't the best strategy...nevertheless, commendably, you are doing well. Some day though that strategy will bite you hard in your fat ass.

2. I may be posting crap right now, but at least I know my stuff. If anyone wants any statistics or information, I can help them, and deep down you bloody well know that as you were a beneficiary. You don't even post any meaningful reasons for your plays...you just shut your eyes and put your finger on a player.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:18 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
Grats on all Clement backers! Myself, Bilbo, Grinder, SadrieL, and others!

Big up yourself and put yourself first - now you are a good example to everyone :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:19 PM
Well done Clement backers... :yeah: :worship: :woohoo: :drink: :smoke:

I didn't have the balls to back either of them :lol:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 02:21 PM
Born you gotta learn to ignore the idiots in the forum. I have them on ignore for a reason. You're making great picks and just keep doing that. Ignore the rest of the garbage! They don't even have plays for today. They're only in here to create more crap and cludder up the thread.
Well, how would he want to ignore you?:D

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 02:22 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
Grats on all Clement backers! Myself, Bilbo, Grinder, SadrieL, and others!

As said, ancic = choke! And sometimes the obvious choice is not the right one!

Hope the two kids cluddering up this thread didn't cloud your judgement! Ancic was never going to win this final no matter how much someone else tried to persaude you from taking the bet.

Clement beats Ancic easily in straights!

6-4, 6-2!
:yeah: :rolleyes: TAILED

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:24 PM
Ancic was never going to win this final no matter how much someone else tried to persaude you from taking the bet.

I apologise if you're dyslexic but you really seem to have problems reading...

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 02:25 PM
Add:
Moya over Volandri @1.629

Taking only 1/5 of my winnings from Clement and putting them on Moya. Clement was a great victory and I don't want to spoil a great week with a bad lost at the end!


Edit: Actually got him at 1.629.. guess people have been pounding volandri sot he line moved up on moya

Grinder
02-19-2006, 02:25 PM
Clement over Ancic @ 200 - $400 to win $800


WON

Now just wait for the "Clement, top 10?" threads in GM soon. :lol:

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 02:26 PM
kostanic @1.40 over Santangelo

Again, if you don't mind WTA then this is another good one. Kostanic has beaten Santangelo twice before and both times it was relatively easy. This is her second ATP final in a row and she is definately getting better. She should beat Santangelo to take her first WTA title.

Clijsters @1.72 over Mauresmo

I'm going with Kim after watching her demolish Dementieva in sets 2 & 3 last night. Her head to head with Mauresmo is excellent including alot of very easy wins. Mauresmo, however has never played better than she is right now and has beaten Kim the last two times they have played, although the last time Kim had to retire due to an ankle strain. A fit Kim Clijsters beats Mauresmo four times out of five and despite the commentators bringing up the ankle injury over and over again last night I saw little evidence in what turned out to be a very effient deconstructing of the dementieva game and Elena was playing well and even serving quite well. Obviously the one question mark over this match is Kim's fitness compared to Mauresmo who is clearly in the shape of her life. Expect Clijsters to be the one looking to go for her shots and for Amelie to see how she does when just getting as many balls back as possible. I'd take Kim @1.72 over anybody.......


Wrong on both.....damn.....both were winning easily and seem to run out of steam at the exact same time. Looks like Kostanic served for the match in the second set and blew it and it's fairly clear that Kim was dismantled by ongoing injury problems.....very disappointed with both of these....:(

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-19-2006, 02:26 PM
Add:
Moya over Volandri @1.5

Taking only 1/5 of my winnings from Clement and putting them on Moya. Clement was a great victory and I don't want to spoil a great week with a bad lost at the end!
:rolls:
How much, is 1£-bet allowed at 5dimes?:scratch:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:27 PM
Bet #1:

Clement over Ancic @2.950

Sometimes the obvious choice isn't the right coice

I am having a feeling Clement will continue to have great form and Ancic might end up choking as he usuall does in big events. Originally was going to go with Ancic but was convinced by..

Ancic has won 1 of 5 finals:

SINGLES CAREER TITLES (1): 2005--'s-Hertogenbosch FINALIST (4): 2004--Milan; 2005--Scottsdale, Tokyo; 2006--Auckland

Now take a look at the opponents he's lost to in the other finals! Players he should have beaten easily I might add!

The obvious choice is Ancic but I'm going to go with Clement. Another thing to note is that he lost to Ancic easily last month so this bet is definitely a tough one.

Note: It's unlike me to bet on an underdog so this one bet is not a great one to follow.. still ancic=choke!

...and really, how many times did you contradict yourself in this gem of analysis? Really does emphasise my point that you haven't got a clue and you closed your eyes and put your finger on Clement. I have to hand it to you - your unique way of betting is certainly workjing. Maybe I should try.

If you can read, try reading analysis from Grinder, Mistaflava and Jim among others...you might learn something :rolleyes:

fisherking
02-19-2006, 02:28 PM
Arnaud was money-making-machine this week; He was underdog 5 times...

I still think Supermario will learn to win important games and forget about his choker abilities. I thought it could happen today, but i rarely back odds below 1.60 so was off this game...

Anyway, congrats to all today Clement backers - i haven't balls to back him for the 5th time this week, but all in all, he brought me some nice money this week... :D

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:28 PM
Add:
Moya over Volandri @1.5

Taking only 1/5 of my winnings from Clement and putting them on Moya. Clement was a great victory and I don't want to spoil a great week with a bad lost at the end!

What are your reasons for taking Moya?

Is this another "pick and hope?"

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:33 PM
Wrong on both.....damn.....both were winning easily and seem to run out of steam at the exact same time. Looks like Kostanic served for the match in the second set and blew it and it's fairly clear that Kim was dismantled by ongoing injury problems.....very disappointed with both of these....:(

That's WTA for you :rolleyes:

So many injured players out there too.

George_Hanson
02-19-2006, 02:33 PM
50/50


so, you got Pippo for 2.50....

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 02:41 PM
so, you got Pippo for 2.50....

edit: actually nevermind.. i cant get sucked into more of this :) here to pick the winners

Bolar Bolabi
02-19-2006, 02:42 PM
That scoreline doesn't surprise me. Similar to that of New Zealand. Ancic is a major choker. No way was he going to win.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 02:51 PM
Thoughts on the Moya vs Volandri final if anyone is interested:

1. H2h between these 2 is 4/1 in favour of Moya. BUT Volandri won their last meeting on clay easily. Moya won their first 3 meetings, all on clay, but all difficult matches.

2. Moya has struggled to get this far - taken to 3 sets in 3 of his 4 matches and lucky to get past both Massu and Ferrero. Volandri, apart from a hiccup playing Behrend, has progressed smoothly, although value may be taken out of a win over a tired Pashanski in the QF, and an injured Calleri in the SF.

3. Volandri is another head-case in finals - won 1 and lost 4. Moya wins 50% of his finals, and, after finishing second best in his last 2 finals, the probability is that he will win this one.

4. No real pattern with Volandri losses - although he loses mostly to players with good serves and powerful, accurate groundstrokes. Moya has lost to the better claycourt players such as Puerta and Coria, but he has also been defeated by surprise players in Starace for one. Suggests that anyone who can stay with him in a set will stand a chance.

Mentally, Volandri is questionable. He clearly struggles in finals, and is up against a successful, and experienced opponent with a love affair for this tournament - he has won it twice. Moya is very good at performing well in certain tournaments that mean a lot to him, and this is clearly one of them. He is the stronger server and will always have a chance to break the Volandri serve...therefore it wouldn't be wise to back against him. The only question mark for me is, just how fit is Moya for this match? :shrug:

Value:

Volandri @ 2.62 x 40% = 105
Moya @ 1.44 x 60% = 86

Volandri is bettable, but only just. I wouldn't back him against the masterful Moya.

bournerdan
02-19-2006, 03:32 PM
That's WTA for you :rolleyes:

So many injured players out there too.

The WTA bets had been so kind to me all week as well but your right, it can burn you if your not careful. I still think Clijsters fully fit would have beaten Momo fully fit but I knew that wasn't the case but believed she'd get through on sheer determination. The other one I'm just very surprised about, genuinely thought Kostanic would win and it looked for all the world that she would, but she did an 'ancic' and choked. I think she remarked about being tired the other day as well so I'm sure that came into it.

That's me done for today anyway, first day of losses for quite a while. Never a good idea to try and scramble some wins to make the money back, so I'm just going to be happy with a very tidy + 2500 on the week :)

Good luck those playing Moya v Volandri and Murray v Hewitt :)

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 03:32 PM
Thoughts on Hewitt vs Murray:

1. Has the makings for a terrific match - both are counter-punchers and excellent at turning defence into attack. I feel that Murray has the slight edge in a rally as Hewitt's not at the top of his game.

2. Serve-wise, it is hard to tell who is better. On last night's performance, Murray again has the edge. However, if he serves poorly then it is hard to see how he will stay with Hewitt in any set. Nevertheless, Hewitt's serve isn't brilliant - Murray's good returning should always ensure he has a chance of breaking it.

3. Hewitt has 24 titles and 12 losses in finals - high success rate. However, he has lost his last 2 finals - high chance he will win today on that statistic. Murray is 0/1 - but what can you do when you play Federer? :lol: A commendable performance in Bangkok though. :yeah:

4. 2006 stats - Hewitt has yet to drop a set indoors, whilst Murray has dropped 3...2 of them to Ljubicic 2 weeks ago. Hewitt has beaten 7 top 100 players (3 this week), but interestingly, all 3 of his losses have come to top 100 players. Murray is probably his toughest opponent behind Chela. Murray is 5/1 against players his standard or worse...but he has lost to players better and more experienced than him.

5. Trends - Hewitt's 3 losses this year have come to players who have made him play a lot of balls back. Apart from the Chela match, Murray has lost to players who overpower him - Hewitt definitely won't be one of them! Generally, both players struggle against the big men who can bully them off the court.

Murray has a good chance today. I don't think he will be nervous as such, and he will be a lot more confident after an impressive win over Roddick. Hewitt has experience over him, but he is not at his best right now, and form this year shows that he has struggled with Murray-type players...ones who will defend well and force him into errors. Murray has nothing to lose and will probably get some good support. The probability was that Hewitt was expecting Roddick in the final...now he plays someone he knows less about and has a totally different game. There might be a few nerves jangling in the early stages of the match...

Value:

Murray @ 3.00 x 35% = 105
Hewitt @ 1.36 x 65% = 88

contrails
02-19-2006, 04:10 PM
The funniest thing about the Jez Twist feud is that when you both agree on a bet, it usually is a winner. I went back and read how this all started, and I laughed my ar#e off. It's about time you guys kissed and made up. Who's in favour??

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 04:13 PM
I haven't agreed on anything today ;)

Moya will likely win but Volandri is value.
Hewitt will likely win but Murray is value.

I'm not betting on anything today for those reasons...I don't have the money to burn right now :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 04:15 PM
He's my bitch and will remain that way until he formally apologises to both myself and Loro. He took us for a ride and assumed the moral high-ground. That sort of shit doesn't cut it with me :shrug:

contrails
02-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Go back and have a look at where it started. It seems to me a little bit of friendly banter was mistaken as an insult by one of you, and then it snowballed from there... quite funny really.

I don't think any mallice was meant at all in the beggining, but now the knives are out.

contrails
02-19-2006, 04:21 PM
I didn't mean what you agreed upon today... I mean in the past :)

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 04:25 PM
He can go kiss my ass...but I'll do him the favour of having a shower first though. :shrug:

contrails
02-19-2006, 04:27 PM
He can go kiss my ass...but I'll do him the favour of having a shower first though. :shrug:




Too funny :devil:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 04:53 PM
Seriously, tell me where I am wrong...

1. He is quick to praise me and ask me for picks/advice when I'm doing well. When I have my worst week on record, he rubs my face in the mud.

2. He claims I have no right to be posting selections because I "bet with lunch money" and can have cost people $1000s.

3. He posts fake scores in livescore forums.

4. He makes homosexual insinuations...

5. In an argument between us, he makes a 3rd party an issue which has absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

6. He is stupid. Having got a degree involving maths, he still can't work out ROI - never apologised for his arrogance there. He knows shit about tennis - he probably plays with a cricket bat. Claims that I'm crap at betting when I use a sensible system meaning I never go bankrupt - he has been at that precipice at least twice.

7. Arrogance - too much of it. Also quick to worship himself when he won on Clement...congratulating yourself in a post is retarded, putting yourself before all others is even more retarded.

So really, he can suck on my left nut, and when he is finished, he can suck on my right.

contrails
02-19-2006, 05:02 PM
Seriously, tell me where I am wrong...

1. He is quick to praise me and ask me for picks/advice when I'm doing well. When I have my worst week on record, he rubs my face in the mud.

2. He claims I have no right to be posting selections because I "bet with lunch money" and can have cost people $1000s.

3. He posts fake scores in livescore forums.

4. He makes homosexual insinuations...

5. In an argument between us, he brings in a 3rd party which has absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

6. He is stupid. Having got a degree involving maths, he still can't work out ROI - never apologised for his arrogance there. He knows shit about tennis - he probably plays with a cricket bat. Claims that I'm crap at betting when I use a sensible system meaning I never go bankrupt - he has been at that precipice at least twice.

7. Arrogance - too much of it. Also quick to worship himself when he won on Clement...congratulating yourself in a post is retarded, putting yourself before all others is even more retarded.

So really, he can suck on my left nut, and when he is finished, he can suck on my right.


I'm not getting involved, but all i can say is you're both very funny :worship: :worship: and you both handicap tennis well :worship: :worship: :worship:

contrails
02-19-2006, 05:06 PM
moya volandi very close, gone to TB, I'm on Moya

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:09 PM
Volandri had value but I'm glad I didn't play the match...

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 05:15 PM
Alrite my IM contact just informed me some idiot just said.. "moya match going exactly as planned.. go pippo".. and now that person edited the post after realizing moya broke back and now won the first set .. what an idiot..'



Who was it? be a "man" and admit it?

Or you just like lying on the boads, then when things dont turn out right you edit your post? Tough and smart guy you are lol

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:17 PM
You and your IM contact can get a room...neither of you mean anything to me and that contact is clearly not a force in this forum. :retard: :retard: :retard:

Now I wouldn't be the first person to get ahead of myself would I? :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:19 PM
...and this match is still going entirely to plan. Moya was hardly value for the type of contest this has become. But I wouldn't expect you to realise that

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:21 PM
...and if that really brainy contact refreshes the page every 10 seconds and hangs 100% around livescore and gamblers forum then he is as pathetic as you. But the contact doesn't exist now does he? Anyone can toggle on/off the ignore list.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Or you just like lying on the boads, then when things dont turn out right you edit your post? Tough and smart guy you are lol

You talk shit pal - what have I edited that is so relevant? :retard:

contrails
02-19-2006, 05:26 PM
...and this match is still going entirely to plan. Moya was hardly value for the type of contest this has become. But I wouldn't expect you to realise that



I think you're right Jez, 1.6 a little short for Moya the way the match is going... should have been around 1.8-1.9... But if the second set is a walkover I think 1.6 was good.

Twist.. you're a funny guy.. thanks for your picks and analysis :wavey:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:35 PM
Twist.. you're a funny guy.. thanks for your picks and analysis :wavey:

He is pathetic and where was his analysis? :eek:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:36 PM
Well contrails, Moya was offered to me for 1.44 - clearly short in terms of value.

contrails
02-19-2006, 05:46 PM
Well contrails, Moya was offered to me for 1.44 - clearly short in terms of value.


I got him at 1.6 just before the match started on Betfair, thought it was good odds :cool:

Twist comes up with good sh#t, he may not be very technical about it, but he has suprised me with some of his predictions. He's doin pretty well considering he's new to betting. You may not agree with this, because you have a problem with him, but I can see it.

Jez, as I said, I'm taking no sides. I have mutual respect for both of you. You both make me laugh and give good advice... what more could I want :devil:

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Add:
Moya over Volandri @1.629

Taking only 1/5 of my winnings from Clement and putting them on Moya. Clement was a great victory and I don't want to spoil a great week with a bad lost at the end!


Another nice victory!

Moya wins in straight sets 7-6, 6-4!

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 05:51 PM
I don't want you to take sides.

I'm new to betting as well, but that doesn't excuse his behaviour. You can't bite the hand that feeds you - that is just shit behaviour and he knows it.

I admit he has been on the ball this week and it is good to see. I wished him luck yesterday...but the man is arrogant. He will continue to rub my face in it and whenhe has a losing run he will disappear for a bit I'll bet.

You got good service today - he provided you with a winner (and he will brag about it because that is his style) and I pointed out to myself and anyone else taking any interest that this match wasn't good to play as it had no value. I'm glad you made money out of it ;) :yeah:

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 05:52 PM
I think you're right Jez, 1.6 a little short for Moya the way the match is going... should have been around 1.8-1.9... But if the second set is a walkover I think 1.6 was good.

Twist.. you're a funny guy.. thanks for your picks and analysis :wavey:


Thanks for your kind words. Sometimes I try to post some analysis, and sometimes I just don't have the time. What I always try to do is post the winners. My goal is to nail winners 80% of the time so not all my picks will win but hopefully enough winners for us all to see $$$!

Also I think anything above 1.5 is value if you feel strongly the opponent will win. Winning money is value!

contrails
02-19-2006, 05:57 PM
Thanks for your kind words. Sometimes I try to post some analysis, and sometimes I just don't have the time. What I always try to do is post the winners. My goal is to nail winners 80% of the time so not all my picks will win but hopefully enough winners for us all to see $$$!

Also I think anything above 1.5 is value if you feel strongly the opponent will win. Winning money is value!


No problem Twist... Now just for the record, did you mean any mallice towards Jez, or was it just friendly banter that started this whole war?? From what I read, it was a comment from you that sparked all this.

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 06:06 PM
No problem Twist... Now just for the record, did you mean any mallice towards Jez, or was it just friendly banter that started this whole war?? From what I read, it was a comment from you that sparked all this.

Nah jez was just saying he had so many leans that were winners yet he picked the loser to place the wager. So I just commented that maybe he should make wagers on his leans.. if he had, he would have come out on top.

Jez had to pick fun of my record which he thought was worst then his but it turns out I'm now +$1500 in profit (started with $1000) and he's barely up 5%. I guess after I proved to him my 2006 betting history things really got riled up..

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 06:16 PM
No problem Twist... Now just for the record, did you mean any mallice towards Jez, or was it just friendly banter that started this whole war?? From what I read, it was a comment from you that sparked all this.

On top of all that he apologizes to Bad Gambler the moderator of these forums ... and then the very next day continues the spam.. That's NOT showing ANY respect! I dont think anyone has sided with him besides loro.

Anyone impartial to us that looks at the what really happen is at least going to have to be neutral.

RickDaStick
02-19-2006, 06:17 PM
Let's cut the crap sunday so how about you guys cut the crap out.

contrails
02-19-2006, 06:24 PM
Let's cut the crap sunday so how about you guys cut the crap out.

I wouldn't mess with Ljub.... :worship:

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 06:31 PM
I'm 2-0 for today so I don't really know if I should play this or not.. if I do play it, it will be a small play.

Some thoughts on Hewitt Vs Murray:

I have a heavy lean on Hewitt wins 2-0 simply because Hewitt is a strong baseliner and doesn't make many mistakes. He's very consistent and won't try to overpower Murray like Murray's opponents earlier this week. I honestly don't think Murray can trouble Hewitt today even if Hewitt isn't of best form.

Three bets I like and will think about while I hit the gym right now :boxing: :

Hewit beats Murray @1.44 -- small value but probably safest
Hewitt wins 2-0 @2.190 -- riskier but still likely
Hewitt/Murray ends in 2 Sets: 1.654 -- in case murray can pull an unbelievable 2-0 victory but still a winning bet if the likely hewitt 2-0


Will reply with actually bet in an hour or two.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 06:33 PM
On top of all that he apologizes to Bad Gambler the moderator of these forums ... and then the very next day continues the spam.. That's NOT showing ANY respect! I dont think anyone has sided with him besides loro.

Anyone impartial to us that looks at the what really happen is at least going to have to be neutral.

That's funny...I thought you had me on ignore! Oh wait, don't tell me, you're dog is the mystery man and told you what I said :spit: :haha:

I continued the spam today? :scratch: Read back and you'll find that your paranoia got the better of you leading you to make fun of my poor run.

I apologised and at least that showed some compassion. You wouldn't know what compassion meant let alone what it was if it slapped you in the face.

I'm not going to go into the sides issue. I have certain gamblers I repsect on this forum and for the most part it is mutual, although I have probably tainted my image a little. You and your dog and keep yapping at me if you wish.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 06:36 PM
Let's cut the crap sunday so how about you guys cut the crap out.

You rarely contribute to this part of the forum so this is not your place to speak ;)

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 06:37 PM
I wouldn't mess with Ljub.... :worship:

I mess with him when he plays...ask any Croat fan :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 06:54 PM
I'm 2-0 for today so I don't really know if I should play this or not.. if I do play it, it will be a small play.

Some thoughts on Hewitt Vs Murray:

I have a heavy lean on Hewitt wins 2-0 simply because Hewitt is a strong baseliner and doesn't make many mistakes. He's very consistent and won't try to overpower Murray like Murray's opponents earlier this week. I honestly don't think Murray can trouble Hewitt today even if Hewitt isn't of best form.

That's the best analysis I have seen you provide so far but it is still far from good.

Doesn't make many mistakes? Don't agree.
The scoreline may not be close, but Murray can still trouble him in any game.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 07:15 PM
Now then, on the occasions when Twisty was well up on a given day, my advice to him used to be to quit while he was ahead and unbeaten.

What is the point of playing Hewitt tonight? There is nothing to prove by doing it. The Aussie isn't even value...Murray is.

Let's see what happens...

its.like.that
02-19-2006, 08:15 PM
kostanic @1.40 over Santangelo

Again, if you don't mind WTA then this is another good one. Kostanic has beaten Santangelo twice before and both times it was relatively easy. This is her second ATP final in a row and she is definately getting better. She should beat Santangelo to take her first WTA title.

Clijsters @1.72 over Mauresmo

I'm going with Kim after watching her demolish Dementieva in sets 2 & 3 last night. Her head to head with Mauresmo is excellent including alot of very easy wins. Mauresmo, however has never played better than she is right now and has beaten Kim the last two times they have played, although the last time Kim had to retire due to an ankle strain. A fit Kim Clijsters beats Mauresmo four times out of five and despite the commentators bringing up the ankle injury over and over again last night I saw little evidence in what turned out to be a very effient deconstructing of the dementieva game and Elena was playing well and even serving quite well. Obviously the one question mark over this match is Kim's fitness compared to Mauresmo who is clearly in the shape of her life. Expect Clijsters to be the one looking to go for her shots and for Amelie to see how she does when just getting as many balls back as possible. I'd take Kim @1.72 over anybody.......

The chalk burns!!!

:lol:

its.like.that
02-19-2006, 08:19 PM
WON

Now just wait for the "Clement, top 10?" threads in GM soon. :lol:

Hey, that's funny!!!

:retard:

its.like.that
02-19-2006, 08:23 PM
Let's cut the crap sunday so how about you guys cut the crap out.

:rolleyes:

You shouldn't even be in this part of the forum.

Go away.

Grinder
02-19-2006, 08:26 PM
Hey, that's funny!!!

:retard:

You try too hard bud. :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 08:31 PM
Jim oh Jim :haha: :haha:

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 08:52 PM
I'm 2-0 for today so I don't really know if I should play this or not.. if I do play it, it will be a small play.

Some thoughts on Hewitt Vs Murray:

I have a heavy lean on Hewitt wins 2-0 simply because Hewitt is a strong baseliner and doesn't make many mistakes. He's very consistent and won't try to overpower Murray like Murray's opponents earlier this week. I honestly don't think Murray can trouble Hewitt today even if Hewitt isn't of best form.

Three bets I like and will think about while I hit the gym right now :boxing: :

Hewit beats Murray @1.44 -- small value but probably safest
Hewitt wins 2-0 @2.190 -- riskier but still likely
Hewitt/Murray ends in 2 Sets: 1.654 -- in case murray can pull an unbelievable 2-0 victory but still a winning bet if the likely hewitt 2-0


Will reply with actually bet in an hour or two.

Add:

Hewitt wins 2-0 over Murray @2.240 (small play)

I'm using most profits from the Moya victory for this play. I'm pretty confident Hewitt can take this in straights but Murray's run has been impressive enough for me only to lay a small stake. As we know in sports, anything can happen!

If I had lost earlier buts, I wouldn't make this wager but I have a lot of profit today and would like to extend it even more! If I lose, no harm no foul!

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 08:57 PM
Good luck, but I think that was pretty pointless :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 09:56 PM
Alrite my IM contact just informed me some idiot just said.. "moya match going exactly as planned.. go pippo".. and now that person edited the post after realizing moya broke back and now won the first set .. what an idiot..'

:spit: :haha: :haha: :haha: Who gives a crap about this imaginary person? :retard: You're a joke

Who was it? be a "man" and admit it?

:spit: :haha: You're a joke.

Or you just like lying on the boads, then when things dont turn out right you edit your post? Tough and smart guy you are lol

:confused: :spit: :haha: :haha: You're a joke

TwistyServe
02-19-2006, 11:22 PM
Great day and great week, even thought I was hoping to sqeeze out more change with the last play:

Clement over Ancic @2.950 wins

Moya over Volandri @1.629 wins

Hewitt wins 2-0 over Murray @2.240 (small play) loses

Truly glad I didn't end up like that lunantic idiot spamming up the forums because of his 9 of 11 losers.

Until next week!

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 11:30 PM
TwistServe - I know you toggle on/off ignore and I know you read my posts so don't pretend.

I gave you sound advice, having your best interests at heart and once again my advice proves good. You're too stupid and proud to accept it. I don't give a shit. You have proved you can hit winners for now...I have proved that despite a poor spell, my advice is top and my tactics today were excellent.

Most people think you're a moron and your last comment (below) was unnecessary considering that I wished you luck as well. Will be seeing you around, but don't be surprised that when your bad streak comes, others get on your back. :wavey: :retard:

Truly glad I didn't end up like that lunantic idiot spamming up the forums because of his 9 of 11 losers.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Now then, on the occasions when Twisty was well up on a given day, my advice to him used to be to quit while he was ahead and unbeaten.

What is the point of playing Hewitt tonight? There is nothing to prove by doing it. The Aussie isn't even value...Murray is.

Let's see what happens...

...too predictable, both the bet and the result :rolleyes:

An example of someone who has more of an idea of what they're doing than a moron.

Horatio Caine
02-20-2006, 12:41 AM
Value:

Volandri @ 2.62 x 40% = 105
Moya @ 1.44 x 60% = 86


Value:

Murray @ 3.00 x 35% = 105
Hewitt @ 1.36 x 65% = 88

It took me less than 24 hours to prove what a dickhead you are TwistServe. Knowledge is power, and you can only dream of it.

Had I had the confidence to bet today and go with the two value plays, I would have netted a decent profit, despite one losing.

Just because I didn't earn a cent today doesn't mean I don't know exactly what I am talking about. Maybe you'd like to re-read the advice I gave you BEFORE you took Hewitt. I suggest you remove the bullshit from your sig before you cause yourself further embarassment.

TwistyServe
02-20-2006, 01:01 AM
Someone please count how many messages jez has posted in this thread today? lol he's hung around an internet forum like a disease.. furthermore he didnt even place any bets today. It's now around 3-4am well over his bedtime and he's still around spamming lol :retard:

its.like.that
02-20-2006, 02:46 AM
You try too hard bud. :lol:

:confused:

Was I the one who spent hours picking my brain to come up with the "Now just wait for the "Clement, top 10?" threads in GM soon" blurb?

;)

Grinder
02-20-2006, 03:15 AM
:confused:

Was I the one who spent hours picking my brain to come up with the "Now just wait for the "Clement, top 10?" threads in GM soon" blurb?

;)

Awesome comeback man. :worship:

its.like.that
02-20-2006, 03:20 AM
Awesome comeback man. :worship:

Ignorance is bliss.

:inlove:

Grinder
02-20-2006, 03:22 AM
Ignorance is bliss.

:inlove:

Brilliant words.

its.like.that
02-20-2006, 03:49 AM
Brilliant words.

Brilliant mind.

:)

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-20-2006, 11:08 AM
Add:

Hewitt wins 2-0 over Murray @2.240 (small play)

I'm using most profits from the Moya victory for this play. I'm pretty confident Hewitt can take this in straights but Murray's run has been impressive enough for me only to lay a small stake. As we know in sports, anything can happen!

If I had lost earlier buts, I wouldn't make this wager but I have a lot of profit today and would like to extend it even more! If I lose, no harm no foul!
Hahahahahahahahaha:rolls::rolls:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-20-2006, 11:12 AM
Andy Murray over Lleyton Hewitt @3.25

This will be a hard match for both players; simlar playing-styles.
One thing is for sure, Murray has more power and has a great shot-making! He has to hold his serve quite easy and then he really has the chance to break Hewitt to 50% of his service games. Hewitt always has problems with good returners because his 2nd serve is easily attackable. He played awful last night, I saw the match and he made so many UE's.
For example: He has an open court after a great serve and then he hits the put away's straight into the bottom of the net, ridiculous. This isn't the Hewitt we know from the past. Murray can challange him in baseline rallies, no doubt about that. Good luck with betting, :secret: Twisty will need it.
:wavey: